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   "content" : "«Debatten»:\n\n# «Store sko å fylle»: \\- Ikke vår jobb å fylle sko\n\n## Espen Aas og Åsa Vartdal deler åpenhjertig om Solvangs gigantiske sko og avslører planer for framtidige sendinger.\n\n\\- Jeg har tenkt sånn ... «Hvorfor i all verden gjør jeg dette her?»\n\nÅsa Vartdal har ikke rukket å samle tankene helt når Dagbladet møter henne og makkeren Espen Aas i studio, noen minutter etter debuten deres i «Debatten».\n\nBegge tror det har gått bra i sendingen, hvor de stilte spørsmålet «Hvordan bør Norge reagere på Trump nå?» til forskere, politikere og synsere.\n\nVartdal, som har vært programleder for Dagsrevyen i ei årrekke, innrømmer at hun var nervøs i forkant. Aas, som har ledet hundrevis av debatter i «Dagsnytt 18», var ikke nervøs, men «veldig spent og utrolig utålmodig».\n\nNerver, nytt studio, nye kollegaer og opp mot en halv million øyne rettet mot dem til tross:\n\n\\- Når det røde lyset kommer på \\- da er vi skjerpa, sier Espen Aas.\n\n## «Snork! Jeg savner Fredrik allerede»\n\n\\- Dere «hopper etter Solvang» her ...\n\n\\- Det var det han het, ja, avbryter Aas lattermildt.\n\n\\- Hvordan har det vært?\n\n\\- Jeg lurer på hvor mange ganger vi hørt «store sko å fylle» disse ukene? undrer Vartdal.\n\nFredrik Solvang og hans gigantiske sko har ledet over 400 sendinger i «Debatten». I løpet av de nesten åtte åra i programlederstolen fikk han over 1500 klager i Kringkastingsrådet, men han har også blitt hyllet unisont av de samme folkene han har utfordret. Senterparti\\-leder Trygve Slagsvold Vedum omtalte Solvang som «en institusjon i norsk offentlighet», etter hans siste sending før jul.\n\n\\- Det er store sko. Han har gjort noe helt unikt, sier Vartdal.\n\n\\- Men jobben vår er ikke å fylle sko. Jobben vår er å lage debatt. Da vi ble bedt om å ta jobben, var Solvang den første som var der. Men vi går i gang med vårt opplegg, skyter Aas inn.\n\n\\- Nå er spørsmålet hvor mange meldinger vi kommer til å få med kjeft for at vi ikke er Fredrik, sier Vartdal, som vegrer seg for å sjekke mobilen.\n\n\\- De kommer, legger Aas til.\n\nDe fikk raskt rett i det:\n\nEt par timer etter sendingens slutt skrev Elin Ørjaseter at det var «mer som Urix enn Debatten» i en kronikk i [Nettavisen](https://www.nettavisen.no/norsk-debatt/snork-jeg-savner-fredrik-solvang-allerede/o/5-95-2815637) med tittelen «Snork! Jeg savner Fredrik allerede».\n\n## Blir ikke trygg utgave\n\nHun er langt fra den eneste som har meninger om «Nye Debatten».\n\n«Nye Debatten ble som et pimpet Urix. Men seerne ble nok klokere», skriver [Aftenposten](https://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/kommentar/i/5p6J9E/lite-debatt-i-debatten).\n\n«Nye Debatten er trygg og traust. Og godt er det», skriver [Bergens Tidende](https://www.bt.no/kultur/anmeldelser/i/m0BRzL/anmeldelse-nye-debatten-paa-nrk), i en anmeldelse med den kreative tittelen «Store sko å fylle».\n\n\\- Er dere klare for å stå i de offentlige stormene dette programmet gjerne medfører?\n\n\\- Det må vi nesten være hvis vi skal tørre å gjøre ting som ikke er helt trygt. Vi vil jo at folk skal være engasjerte, sier Vartdal.\n\n\\- Vi er helt andre journalister enn Solvang er og vi tar andre valg. Men det skal ikke bli sånn: «Her kommer den trygge utgaven av Debatten», sier Aas.\n\n## Lover hardere debatt\n\nEn del av tilbakemeldingene fra Nettavisen, Aftenposten og Bergens Tidende går på nettopp det: Trygge valg i første sending.\n\nElin Ørjaseter savnet flere motstemmer og spør: «Skal Debatten fortsette å være like kjedelig framover?»\n\n\\- Jeg tenker at vi valgte riktig tema. Det er ikke spektakulært eller overraskende, men vi ligger klink midt i nyhetsbildet, sa Espen Aas til Dagbladet rett etter sendingen.\n\n\\- Vi kunne ikke valgt noe annet i dag, skyter Vartdal inn.\n\nEspen Aas forteller til [Kampanje](https://www.kampanje.com/premium/slar-tilbake-mot-kritikere-naersynt/971618) dagen derpå at han er glad for at mange sier at de ble klokere, og lover mer harde debatter etter hvert. Samme avis kan avsløre at seertallene for duoens første «Debatten»\\-sending \\- 402 000 \\- er 24 000 mer enn fjorårets sesongpremiere.\n\n\\- Hva er visjonen deres for programmet?\n\n\\- Nå blir veien til mens vi går. Vi begynte med dette på mandag. Vi har akkurat begynt, så den store visjonen må vi jobbe oss fram til, sier Vartdal.\n\n\\- Men vi er enige om at én visjon er at folk fortsatt skal synes det er viktig og bra, skyter Aas inn.\n\n## Hva med håret til Espen Aas?\n\n\\- Helt til slutt: Som Dagbladet\\-journalist må jeg nesten spørre deg om utseendet ditt, Espen. Vi har jo hatt en egen tipstelefon for håret ditt, omtrent ...\n\nEspen Aas avbryter, mens Åsa Vartdal retter på sveisen hans.\n\n\\- Det vet jeg. Den har jeg omtalt i intervjuer!\n\n## Espen Aas har i årevis fått kritikk for det bustete håret sitt.\n\n## «Søk hjelp», har en sagt til ham.\n\n## «Kan han slutte?», sa en annen.\n\n## I 2021 ble han tilsendt to kammer fra en bekymret seer.\n\n## Og når håret var glatt, var det plutselig slipsknutene som var problemet.\n\nDagbladet har naturligvis skrevet om dette ikke [én](https://www.dagbladet.no/kjendis/klar-beskjed-fra-seer---sok-hjelp/74462098), ikke [to](https://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/floke-pa-direkten/81020810) eller [tre](https://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/vekker-oppsikt/82175296), men minst [fire](https://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/ny-floke-pa-direkten/83094043) ganger. Espen Aas lar seg ikke affisere.\n\n\\- Du var veldig fin på håret i dag. Hva kan vi forvente oss på den fronten framover?\n\n\\- Det må sies: Jeg er veldig redd for at jeg skal bli for ordentlig på håret, sier Aas.\n\nDagbladet fikk ikke lov til å bli med inn i stedet hvor magien skjer \\- sminkerommet \\- men Aas er godt fornøyd med jobben det nye teamet hans har gjort.\n\n\\- Jeg fikk en veldig kul variant da vi tok pressebilder, så jeg tok med noen bilder ned og sa «Jeg vil være sånn», sier Aas.\n\n\\- Jeg tror jeg hadde blitt gal hvis jeg hadde fått en sånn speidersveis og sett ut som en tolvåring, fortsetter han.\n\nDet spøker altså for den glatte speidersleiken kritikerne tilsynelatende ønsker å se.\n\nMen Aas har også skumle planer på slipsfronten.\n\nGjennom Dagbladets pågående dekning av Espen Aas sitt utseende har hans knusktørre humor til stadighet skint gjennom.\n\n\\- Nå har jeg dem i alle fall til et nødstilfelle, så jeg kan greie meg selv, sa han til Dagbladet da han fikk to kammer i posten i 2021.\n\n\\- Kam jo ha bitte litt rufs, sa han da han ble tatt i å ha rufsete hår i 2024.\n\nNår han like før dette intervjuets slutt dropper en «cliffhanger» klarer han heller ikke å dy seg.\n\n\\- Hva skjer på slipsfronten?\n\n\\- Det blir litt kule farger på slipsene og så tror jeg verden tåler mer enn Windsor hver gang, sier han med et lurt smil.\n\n\\- En «slipshanger»! legger han raskt til.\n\n\\- Få opp tipstelefonen! skyter Vartdal inn.\n\n## Tips oss om håret til Espen Aas! 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Aas, som har ledet hundrevis av debatter i «Dagsnytt 18», var ikke nervøs, men «veldig spent og utrolig utålmodig».</p>\t\n<div class=\"row xrow flex-initial\"><article class=\"column preview columns xavier-preview small-12 medium-12 large-12 native-advertisement\" data-cxense_tag=\"cerebro\" data-from=\"xavier\" data-reverseimagetextorder=\"false\" data-xavier-version=\"XRE\"><div class=\"content bg-white\"><a href=\"https://tinyurl.com/StrawberryNyttarstilbudDB\"><div class=\"content-marketing-ribbon\"><h3>Annonsørinnhold</h3><img alt=\" logo\" class=\"lazyload\" data-src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/files/2022/11/10/aller1011.jpg\" loading=\"lazy\"></div><div class=\"media\"><figure class=\"xre-figure\" style=\"--xre-fallback-ratio:50.00%;aspect-ratio:2.00\"><picture style=\"position:relative;height:100%\"><source srcset=\" https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84067244.jpg?imageId=84067244&amp;x=0.000000&amp;y=0.000000&amp;cropw=0.000000&amp;croph=0.000000&amp;compression=70&amp;format=webp&amp;width=980&amp;height=490 1.0x, https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84067244.jpg?imageId=84067244&amp;x=0.000000&amp;y=0.000000&amp;cropw=0.000000&amp;croph=0.000000&amp;compression=70&amp;format=webp&amp;width=1470&amp;height=735 1.5x, https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84067244.jpg?imageId=84067244&amp;x=0.000000&amp;y=0.000000&amp;cropw=0.000000&amp;croph=0.000000&amp;compression=70&amp;format=webp&amp;width=1960&amp;height=980 2.0x\" type=\"image/webp\"><img alt=\"Illustrasjon: Dumper priser på tusenvis av hotellrom\" fetchpriority=\"high\" height=\"490\" loading=\"eager\" src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84067244.jpg?imageId=84067244&amp;x=0.000000&amp;y=0.000000&amp;cropw=0.000000&amp;croph=0.000000\" style=\"position:relative;min-height:100%;min-width:100%;object-fit:cover\" width=\"980\"></picture></figure></div><h2 class=\"xavier-headline headline xre\"><span class=\"title dynamic-sizing\" style=\"--xcs-headline-size-sm:2.55em;--xcs-headline-size-md:4.45rem;--xcs-headline-size-lg:4.45rem\">Dumper priser på</span><span class=\"title dynamic-sizing\" style=\"--xcs-headline-size-sm:2.04em;--xcs-headline-size-md:3.57rem;--xcs-headline-size-lg:3.57rem\">tusenvis av hotellrom</span></h2></a></div></article></div>\n\n\n<p>Nerver, nytt studio, nye kollegaer og opp mot en halv million øyne rettet mot dem til tross:</p>\t\n\n\n\n<p>- Når det røde lyset kommer på - da er vi skjerpa, sier Espen Aas. <br></p><figure class=\"column expandwidth small-12 large-12 medium-12 small-abs-12 large-abs-12\" data-element-guid=\"71bedb6e-9a86-42c0-a3c9-1405c6decfc8\">\n  \n  <div class=\"content \" style=\"\">\n\n    <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n      <picture>\n        <source height=\"559\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079564.webp?imageId=84079564&amp;width=1960&amp;height=1118&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"980\">    \n        <source height=\"559\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079564.webp?imageId=84079564&amp;width=1960&amp;height=1118&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"980\">    \n        <source height=\"217\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079564.webp?imageId=84079564&amp;width=760&amp;height=434&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"380\">\n        <source height=\"217\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079564.webp?imageId=84079564&amp;width=760&amp;height=434&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"380\">\n        <img alt=\"\" class=\"\" height=\"559\" src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079564.webp?imageId=84079564&amp;width=1960&amp;height=1118\" style=\"--aspect-ratio-image: 1.75; \" title=\"REGJERINGSBESØK: - Vi er spente på dere, sier Espen Barth Eide under gjennomgangen i forkant av Espen Aas og Åsa Vartdals første sending i «Debatten».\" width=\"980\">\n      </picture>\n      \n          </div>\n\n    <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n        <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">REGJERINGSBESØK: - Vi er spente på dere, sier Espen Barth Eide under gjennomgangen i forkant av Espen Aas og Åsa Vartdals første sending i «Debatten».</figcaption>\n    </div>\n  </div>\n</figure>\n<h2>«Snork! Jeg savner Fredrik allerede»</h2>\t\n<div class=\"row xrow flex-initial\"><div class=\"adunit-wrapper track-element column small-12 medium-12 large-12\" data-from=\"xavier\" id=\"apos-netboard1\"><div class=\"adunit GoogleActiveViewElement small-580x500 medium-580x500 large-580x500\" data-collapse=\"false\" data-expand=\"false\" data-load-on=\"view\" data-out-of-page=\"false\" data-sizes=\"[[580,400],[580,500],&quot;fluid&quot;]\" data-slot=\"/8578/dagbladet.no/seksjoner/nyheter/artikkel\" id=\"ad-netboard1\" itemscope itemtype=\"https://schema.org/WPAdBlock\" json=\"{&quot;targeting&quot;:{&quot;pos&quot;:&quot;netboard1&quot;,&quot;platform&quot;:&quot;wolverine&quot;}}\"></div></div></div>\n\n\n<p class=\"italic m-italic\" data-lab-italic=\"italic\">- Dere «hopper etter Solvang» her ...</p>\t\n\n\n\n<p>- Det var det han het, ja, avbryter Aas lattermildt. </p>\t\n\n\n\n<p class=\"italic m-italic\" data-lab-italic=\"italic\">- Hvordan har det vært?</p>\t\n\n\n\n<p>- Jeg lurer på hvor mange ganger vi hørt «store sko å fylle» disse ukene? undrer Vartdal.<br></p>\t\n\n\n\n<p>Fredrik Solvang og hans gigantiske sko har ledet over 400 sendinger i «Debatten». I løpet av de nesten åtte åra i programlederstolen fikk han over 1500 klager i Kringkastingsrådet, men han har også blitt hyllet unisont av de samme folkene han har utfordret. Senterparti-leder Trygve Slagsvold Vedum omtalte Solvang som «en institusjon i norsk offentlighet», etter hans siste sending før jul.</p>\t\n<div class=\"row xrow flex-initial\"><div class=\"adunit-wrapper track-element column small-12 medium-12 large-12\" data-from=\"xavier\" id=\"apos-netboard2\"><div class=\"adunit GoogleActiveViewElement small-580x500 medium-580x500 large-580x500\" data-collapse=\"false\" data-expand=\"false\" data-load-on=\"view\" data-out-of-page=\"false\" data-sizes=\"[[580,400],[580,500],&quot;fluid&quot;]\" data-slot=\"/8578/dagbladet.no/seksjoner/nyheter/artikkel\" id=\"ad-netboard2\" itemscope itemtype=\"https://schema.org/WPAdBlock\" json=\"{&quot;targeting&quot;:{&quot;pos&quot;:&quot;netboard2&quot;,&quot;platform&quot;:&quot;wolverine&quot;}}\"></div></div></div>\n\n\n<p>- Det <span class=\"italic m-italic\" data-lab-italic=\"italic\">er </span>store sko. Han har gjort noe helt unikt, sier Vartdal. </p>\t\n\n\n\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">- Men jobben vår er ikke å fylle sko. Jobben vår er å lage debatt. Da vi ble bedt om å ta jobben, var Solvang den første som var der. Men vi går i gang med vårt opplegg, skyter Aas inn.</p><figure class=\"column expandwidth small-12 large-12 medium-12 small-abs-12 large-abs-12\" data-element-guid=\"15792d1c-b5ae-41d9-bc08-dded3c174772\">\n  \n  <div class=\"content \" style=\"\">\n\n    <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n      <picture>\n        <source height=\"559\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079558.webp?imageId=84079558&amp;width=1960&amp;height=1118&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"980\">    \n        <source height=\"559\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079558.webp?imageId=84079558&amp;width=1960&amp;height=1118&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"980\">    \n        <source height=\"217\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079558.webp?imageId=84079558&amp;width=760&amp;height=434&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"380\">\n        <source height=\"217\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079558.webp?imageId=84079558&amp;width=760&amp;height=434&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"380\">\n        <img alt=\"\" class=\"\" height=\"559\" src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079558.webp?imageId=84079558&amp;width=1960&amp;height=1118\" style=\"--aspect-ratio-image: 1.75; \" title=\"SISTE ØVING: Mye måtte på plass før første sending i «Debatten»-studioet. 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Jeg savner Fredrik allerede». </p>\t\n\n\n\n<h2>Blir ikke trygg utgave</h2>\t\n\n\n\n<p>Hun er langt fra den eneste som har meninger om «Nye Debatten».</p>\t\n\n\n\n<p> «Nye Debatten ble som et pimpet Urix. Men seerne ble nok klokere», skriver <a href=\"https://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/kommentar/i/5p6J9E/lite-debatt-i-debatten\">Aftenposten</a>. </p>\t\n<div class=\"row xrow flex-initial\"><div class=\"adunit-wrapper track-element column small-12 medium-12 large-12\" data-from=\"xavier\" id=\"apos-netboard4\"><div class=\"adunit GoogleActiveViewElement small-580x500 medium-580x500 large-580x500\" data-collapse=\"false\" data-expand=\"false\" data-load-on=\"view\" data-out-of-page=\"false\" data-sizes=\"[[580,400],[580,500],&quot;fluid&quot;]\" data-slot=\"/8578/dagbladet.no/seksjoner/nyheter/artikkel\" id=\"ad-netboard4\" itemscope itemtype=\"https://schema.org/WPAdBlock\" json=\"{&quot;targeting&quot;:{&quot;pos&quot;:&quot;netboard4&quot;,&quot;platform&quot;:&quot;wolverine&quot;}}\"></div></div></div>\n\n\n<p> «Nye Debatten er trygg og traust. Og godt er det», skriver <a href=\"https://www.bt.no/kultur/anmeldelser/i/m0BRzL/anmeldelse-nye-debatten-paa-nrk\">Bergens Tidende</a>, i en anmeldelse med den kreative tittelen «Store sko å fylle».<br></p>\t\n\n\n\n<p class=\"italic m-italic\" data-lab-italic=\"italic\">- Er dere klare for å stå i de offentlige stormene dette programmet gjerne medfører? </p>\t\n\n\n\n<p>- Det må vi nesten være hvis vi skal tørre å gjøre ting som ikke er helt trygt. Vi vil jo at folk skal være engasjerte, sier Vartdal. </p>\t\n<div class=\"row xrow flex-initial\"><div class=\"adunit-wrapper track-element column small-12 medium-12 large-12\" data-from=\"xavier\" id=\"apos-netboard5\"><div class=\"adunit GoogleActiveViewElement small-580x500 medium-580x500 large-580x500\" data-collapse=\"false\" data-expand=\"false\" data-load-on=\"view\" data-out-of-page=\"false\" data-sizes=\"[[580,400],[580,500],&quot;fluid&quot;]\" data-slot=\"/8578/dagbladet.no/seksjoner/nyheter/artikkel\" id=\"ad-netboard5\" itemscope itemtype=\"https://schema.org/WPAdBlock\" json=\"{&quot;targeting&quot;:{&quot;pos&quot;:&quot;netboard5&quot;,&quot;platform&quot;:&quot;wolverine&quot;}}\"></div></div></div>\n\n\n<p>- Vi er helt andre journalister enn Solvang er og vi tar andre valg. Men det skal ikke bli sånn: «Her kommer den trygge utgaven av Debatten», sier Aas.</p>\t\n\n\n\n<h2>Lover hardere debatt</h2>\t\n\n\n\n<p>En del av tilbakemeldingene fra Nettavisen, Aftenposten og Bergens Tidende går på nettopp det: Trygge valg i første sending. </p>\t\n\n\n\n<p>Elin Ørjaseter savnet flere motstemmer og spør: «Skal Debatten fortsette å være like kjedelig framover?»</p>\t\n\n\n\n<p>- Jeg tenker at vi valgte riktig tema. Det er ikke spektakulært eller overraskende, men vi ligger klink midt i nyhetsbildet, sa Espen Aas til Dagbladet rett etter sendingen. </p>\t\n<div class=\"row xrow flex-initial\"><div class=\"adunit-wrapper track-element column small-12 medium-12 large-12\" data-from=\"xavier\" id=\"apos-netboard6\"><div class=\"adunit GoogleActiveViewElement small-580x500 medium-580x500 large-580x500\" data-collapse=\"false\" data-expand=\"false\" data-load-on=\"view\" data-out-of-page=\"false\" data-sizes=\"[[580,400],[580,500],&quot;fluid&quot;]\" data-slot=\"/8578/dagbladet.no/seksjoner/nyheter/artikkel\" id=\"ad-netboard6\" itemscope itemtype=\"https://schema.org/WPAdBlock\" json=\"{&quot;targeting&quot;:{&quot;pos&quot;:&quot;netboard6&quot;,&quot;platform&quot;:&quot;wolverine&quot;}}\"></div></div></div>\n\n\n<p>- Vi kunne ikke valgt noe annet i dag, skyter Vartdal inn. </p>\t\n\n\n\n<p>Espen Aas forteller til <a href=\"https://www.kampanje.com/premium/slar-tilbake-mot-kritikere-naersynt/971618\">Kampanje</a> dagen derpå at han er glad for at mange sier at de ble klokere, og lover mer harde debatter etter hvert. Samme avis kan avsløre at seertallene for duoens første «Debatten»-sending - 402 000 - er 24 000 mer enn fjorårets sesongpremiere. </p><div class=\"column slideshow-box small-12 large-12 medium-12 small-abs-12 large-abs-12\" data-element-guid=\"10dca9b4-c516-4a33-bbe6-d3be5491f162\" style=\"\">\n    \n    <div class=\"content \">\n        <div class=\"slideshowcontainer fullwidthTarget background-dark\" id=\"slideshow-84080216\">\n            \n            <div class=\"scroll-container swipehelper snap-container-x snap-element-start\">\n                    <div class=\"scroll-item snap-element slideshow-image\">\n                    \n                    <figure class=\"\" data-element-guid=\"8b7c5be8-1149-4661-b8b1-570c7297c53c\">\n    <div class=\"img\">\n        <picture>\n          <source height=\"435\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079563.webp?imageId=84079563&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=1158&amp;height=870&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"579\">    \n          <source height=\"435\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079563.webp?imageId=84079563&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=1158&amp;height=870&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"579\">    \n          <source height=\"285\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079563.webp?imageId=84079563&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=570&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"380\">\n          <source height=\"285\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079563.webp?imageId=84079563&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=570&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"380\">\n          <img alt=\"\" class=\"\" height=\"435\" src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079563.webp?imageId=84079563&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=1158&amp;height=870\" style=\"--aspect-ratio-image: 1.33; \" title=\"\" width=\"579\">\n        </picture>\n        \n            </div>\n    <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n        <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">DELTOK: Tidligere statsråd Ketil Solvik-Olsen tror ikke Trump mener alvor med truslene mot Grønland.</figcaption>\n        <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Shad Madian</figcaption>\n    </div></figure>\n                    \n                    </div>\n                    <div class=\"scroll-item snap-element slideshow-image\">\n                    \n                    <figure class=\"\" data-element-guid=\"8f8fb2c9-55de-417f-acce-80412ccfd0b7\">\n    <div class=\"img\">\n        <picture>\n          <source height=\"435\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079561.webp?imageId=84079561&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=1158&amp;height=870&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"579\">    \n          <source height=\"435\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079561.webp?imageId=84079561&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=1158&amp;height=870&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"579\">    \n          <source height=\"285\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079561.webp?imageId=84079561&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=570&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"380\">\n          <source height=\"285\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079561.webp?imageId=84079561&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=570&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"380\">\n          <img alt=\"\" class=\"\" height=\"435\" src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079561.webp?imageId=84079561&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=1158&amp;height=870\" style=\"--aspect-ratio-image: 1.33; \" title=\"\" width=\"579\">\n        </picture>\n        \n            </div>\n    <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n        <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">UENIG: Iver B. Neumann tror på sin side at USA tar Grønland i løpet av året.</figcaption>\n        <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Shad Madian</figcaption>\n    </div></figure>\n                    \n                    </div>\n                    <div class=\"scroll-item snap-element slideshow-image\">\n                    \n                    <figure class=\"\" data-element-guid=\"2bc84b7a-c25b-4a1e-9f2f-73d819b4d43c\">\n    <div class=\"img\">\n        <picture>\n          <source height=\"435\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079554.webp?imageId=84079554&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=1158&amp;height=870&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"579\">    \n          <source height=\"435\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079554.webp?imageId=84079554&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=1158&amp;height=870&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"579\">    \n          <source height=\"285\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079554.webp?imageId=84079554&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=570&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"380\">\n          <source height=\"285\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079554.webp?imageId=84079554&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=570&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"380\">\n          <img alt=\"\" class=\"\" height=\"435\" src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079554.webp?imageId=84079554&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=1158&amp;height=870\" style=\"--aspect-ratio-image: 1.33; \" title=\"\" width=\"579\">\n        </picture>\n        \n            </div>\n    <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n        <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">KOM FOR SEINT: Redaktør i High North News, Arne O. Holm, sitt fly ble forsinket og han gjennomførte halve sendingen over telefon og halve i studio.</figcaption>\n        <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Shad Madian</figcaption>\n    </div></figure>\n                    \n                    </div>\n                    <div class=\"scroll-item snap-element slideshow-image\">\n                    \n                    <figure class=\"\" data-element-guid=\"dedf1729-70b4-4a91-b1f8-20e05ff4b2a7\">\n    <div class=\"img\">\n        <picture>\n          <source height=\"435\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079557.webp?imageId=84079557&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=1158&amp;height=870&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"579\">    \n          <source height=\"435\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079557.webp?imageId=84079557&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=1158&amp;height=870&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"579\">    \n          <source height=\"285\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079557.webp?imageId=84079557&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=570&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"380\">\n          <source height=\"285\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079557.webp?imageId=84079557&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=570&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"380\">\n          <img alt=\"\" class=\"\" height=\"435\" src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079557.webp?imageId=84079557&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=1158&amp;height=870\" style=\"--aspect-ratio-image: 1.33; 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Foto: Shad Madian / Dagbladet</figcaption>\n        <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Shad Madian</figcaption>\n    </div></figure>\n                    \n                    </div>\n            </div>\n            <nav>\n                <span class=\"arrow left\">\n                    <span></span>\n                </span>\n                <span class=\"arrow right\">\n                    <span></span>\n                </span>\n                \n                \n            </nav>\n        \n        </div>\n    </div>\n</div><p class=\"italic m-italic\" data-lab-italic=\"italic\">- Hva er visjonen deres for programmet? </p>\t\n<div class=\"row xrow flex-initial\"><div class=\"adunit-wrapper track-element column small-12 medium-12 large-12\" data-from=\"xavier\" id=\"apos-netboard7\"><div class=\"adunit GoogleActiveViewElement small-580x500 medium-580x500 large-580x500\" data-collapse=\"false\" data-expand=\"false\" data-load-on=\"view\" data-out-of-page=\"false\" data-sizes=\"[[580,400],[580,500],&quot;fluid&quot;]\" data-slot=\"/8578/dagbladet.no/seksjoner/nyheter/artikkel\" id=\"ad-netboard7\" itemscope itemtype=\"https://schema.org/WPAdBlock\" json=\"{&quot;targeting&quot;:{&quot;pos&quot;:&quot;netboard7&quot;,&quot;platform&quot;:&quot;wolverine&quot;}}\"></div></div></div>\n\n\n<p class=\"no_italic m-no_italic\" data-lab-italic=\"\">- Nå blir veien til mens vi går. Vi begynte med dette på mandag. Vi har akkurat begynt, så den store visjonen må vi jobbe oss fram til, sier Vartdal.</p>\t\n\n\n\n<p class=\"no_italic m-no_italic\" data-lab-italic=\"\">- Men vi er enige om at én visjon er at folk fortsatt skal synes det er viktig og bra, skyter Aas inn. </p>\t\n\n\n\n<h2>Hva med håret til Espen Aas?</h2>\t\n\n\n\n<p class=\"italic m-italic\" data-lab-italic=\"italic\">- Helt til slutt: Som Dagbladet-journalist må jeg nesten spørre deg om utseendet ditt, Espen. Vi har jo hatt en egen tipstelefon for håret ditt, omtrent ...</p>\t\n<div class=\"row xrow flex-initial\"><div class=\"adunit-wrapper track-element column small-12 medium-12 large-12\" data-from=\"xavier\" id=\"apos-netboard8\"><div class=\"adunit GoogleActiveViewElement small-580x500 medium-580x500 large-580x500\" data-collapse=\"false\" data-expand=\"false\" data-load-on=\"view\" data-out-of-page=\"false\" data-sizes=\"[[580,400],[580,500],&quot;fluid&quot;]\" data-slot=\"/8578/dagbladet.no/seksjoner/nyheter/artikkel\" id=\"ad-netboard8\" itemscope itemtype=\"https://schema.org/WPAdBlock\" json=\"{&quot;targeting&quot;:{&quot;pos&quot;:&quot;netboard8&quot;,&quot;platform&quot;:&quot;wolverine&quot;}}\"></div></div></div>\n\n\n<p class=\"no_italic m-no_italic\" data-lab-italic=\"\">Espen Aas avbryter, mens Åsa Vartdal retter på sveisen hans. </p>\t\n\n\n\n<p>- Det vet jeg. Den har jeg omtalt i intervjuer!</p><div class=\"column parallax-container small-12 large-12 medium-12 small-abs-12 large-abs-12\" data-element-guid=\"c5e05e1b-0516-4d46-b64f-d054ae0b86fd\" id=\"parallax-84079359\">\n    \n    <div class=\"content fullwidthTarget\" style=\"\">\n\n        <div class=\"parallax-layer   large-12 small-12\" data-parallax-content-type=\"image\" data-parallax-fullwidth=\"\" data-parallax-height=\"100\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-desktop=\"\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-mobile=\"\" data-parallax-layer=\"0\" data-parallax-spacebelow=\"0\" data-parallax-sticky=\"\" data-parallax-verticalalign=\"top\" data-parallax-verticalposition=\"auto\">\n            <figure class=\"\" data-element-guid=\"543117e7-ad95-43fb-887f-ba562ff74bc6\">\n    <div class=\"img\">\n        <picture>\n          <source height=\"1224\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079383.webp?imageId=84079383&amp;x=5.16&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.29&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=3000&amp;height=2040&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"1800\">    \n          <source height=\"1224\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079383.webp?imageId=84079383&amp;x=5.16&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.29&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=3000&amp;height=2040&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"1800\">    \n          <source height=\"259\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079383.webp?imageId=84079383&amp;x=5.16&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.29&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=518&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"380\">\n          <source height=\"259\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079383.webp?imageId=84079383&amp;x=5.16&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.29&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=518&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"380\">\n          <img alt=\"\" class=\"\" height=\"1224\" src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079383.webp?imageId=84079383&amp;x=5.16&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.29&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=3000&amp;height=2040\" style=\"--aspect-ratio-image: 1.47; \" title=\"\" width=\"1800\">\n        </picture>\n        \n            </div>\n    <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n        <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\"></figcaption>\n        <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\"></figcaption>\n    </div></figure>\n        </div>\n        <div class=\"parallax-layer   large-12 small-12\" data-parallax-content-type=\"text_singleline\" data-parallax-fullwidth=\"\" data-parallax-height=\"100\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-desktop=\"\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-mobile=\"\" data-parallax-layer=\"1\" data-parallax-spacebelow=\"0\" data-parallax-verticalalign=\"top\" data-parallax-verticalposition=\"auto\">\n            <div class=\"column text_singleline small-12 large-12 medium-12 small-abs-12 large-abs-12\" data-element-guid=\"04234f29-7ebd-4716-b5e1-a906886b86c4\">\n    \n    <h2 class=\"content singleline align-center mobile_text_align_align-center t33\" style=\" \">\n        Espen Aas har i årevis fått kritikk for det bustete håret sitt.\n    </h2>\n</div>\n        </div>\n        <div class=\"parallax-layer   large-12 small-12\" data-parallax-content-type=\"image\" data-parallax-fullwidth=\"\" data-parallax-height=\"100\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-desktop=\"\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-mobile=\"\" data-parallax-layer=\"2\" data-parallax-spacebelow=\"0\" data-parallax-sticky=\"\" data-parallax-verticalalign=\"top\" data-parallax-verticalposition=\"auto\">\n            <figure class=\"\" data-element-guid=\"a8399bc0-48de-419b-9bc7-493ebf7054d5\">\n    <div class=\"img\">\n        <picture>\n          <source height=\"1224\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079384.webp?imageId=84079384&amp;x=10.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.29&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=3000&amp;height=2040&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"1800\">    \n          <source height=\"1224\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079384.webp?imageId=84079384&amp;x=10.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.29&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=3000&amp;height=2040&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"1800\">    \n          <source height=\"259\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079384.webp?imageId=84079384&amp;x=10.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.29&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=518&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"380\">\n          <source height=\"259\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079384.webp?imageId=84079384&amp;x=10.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.29&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=518&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"380\">\n          <img alt=\"\" class=\"\" height=\"1224\" src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079384.webp?imageId=84079384&amp;x=10.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.29&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=3000&amp;height=2040\" style=\"--aspect-ratio-image: 1.47; \" title=\"\" width=\"1800\">\n        </picture>\n        \n            </div>\n    <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n        <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\"></figcaption>\n        <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\"></figcaption>\n    </div></figure>\n        </div>\n        <div class=\"parallax-layer   large-12 small-12\" data-parallax-content-type=\"text_singleline\" data-parallax-fullwidth=\"\" data-parallax-height=\"100\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-desktop=\"\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-mobile=\"\" data-parallax-layer=\"3\" data-parallax-spacebelow=\"0\" data-parallax-verticalalign=\"top\" data-parallax-verticalposition=\"auto\">\n            <div class=\"column text_singleline small-12 large-12 medium-12 small-abs-12 large-abs-12\" data-element-guid=\"e7519a5d-220e-4d6d-8b33-bfb7842ddbcc\">\n    \n    <h2 class=\"content singleline t35 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center\" style=\" \">\n        «Søk hjelp», har en sagt til ham.\n    </h2>\n</div>\n        </div>\n        <div class=\"parallax-layer   large-12 small-12\" data-parallax-content-type=\"image\" data-parallax-fullwidth=\"\" data-parallax-height=\"100\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-desktop=\"\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-mobile=\"\" data-parallax-layer=\"4\" data-parallax-spacebelow=\"0\" data-parallax-sticky=\"\" data-parallax-verticalalign=\"top\" data-parallax-verticalposition=\"auto\">\n            <figure class=\"\" data-element-guid=\"ede8d95b-dfa0-4bda-a1bb-237e966f4f72\">\n    <div class=\"img\">\n        <picture>\n          <source height=\"1224\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079386.webp?imageId=84079386&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.29&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=3000&amp;height=2040&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"1800\">    \n          <source height=\"1224\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079386.webp?imageId=84079386&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.29&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=3000&amp;height=2040&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"1800\">    \n          <source height=\"259\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079386.webp?imageId=84079386&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.29&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=518&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"380\">\n          <source height=\"259\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079386.webp?imageId=84079386&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.29&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=518&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"380\">\n          <img alt=\"\" class=\"\" height=\"1224\" src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079386.webp?imageId=84079386&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.29&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=3000&amp;height=2040\" style=\"--aspect-ratio-image: 1.47; \" title=\"\" width=\"1800\">\n        </picture>\n        \n            </div>\n    <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n        <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\"></figcaption>\n        <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\"></figcaption>\n    </div></figure>\n        </div>\n        <div class=\"parallax-layer   large-12 small-12\" data-parallax-content-type=\"text_singleline\" data-parallax-fullwidth=\"\" data-parallax-height=\"100\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-desktop=\"\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-mobile=\"\" data-parallax-layer=\"5\" data-parallax-spacebelow=\"0\" data-parallax-verticalalign=\"top\" data-parallax-verticalposition=\"auto\">\n            <div class=\"column text_singleline small-12 large-12 medium-12 small-abs-12 large-abs-12\" data-element-guid=\"dbf3807f-3fb6-43cf-ae61-2d08f342db20\">\n    \n    <h2 class=\"content singleline t36 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center\" style=\" \">\n        «Kan han slutte?», sa en annen.\n    </h2>\n</div>\n        </div>\n        <div class=\"parallax-layer   large-12 small-12\" data-parallax-content-type=\"image\" data-parallax-fullwidth=\"\" data-parallax-height=\"100\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-desktop=\"\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-mobile=\"\" data-parallax-layer=\"6\" data-parallax-spacebelow=\"0\" data-parallax-sticky=\"\" data-parallax-verticalalign=\"top\" data-parallax-verticalposition=\"auto\">\n            <figure class=\"\" data-element-guid=\"ea8e469a-b015-41b6-86ee-593f253112e1\">\n    <div class=\"img\">\n        <picture>\n          <source height=\"1224\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079382.webp?imageId=84079382&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=32.57&amp;cropw=100.00&amp;croph=59.13&amp;width=3000&amp;height=2040&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"1800\">    \n          <source height=\"1224\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079382.webp?imageId=84079382&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=32.57&amp;cropw=100.00&amp;croph=59.13&amp;width=3000&amp;height=2040&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"1800\">    \n          <source height=\"602\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079382.webp?imageId=84079382&amp;x=14.68&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=66.29&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=700&amp;height=1204&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"350\">\n          <source height=\"602\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079382.webp?imageId=84079382&amp;x=14.68&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=66.29&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=700&amp;height=1204&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"350\">\n          <img alt=\"\" class=\"\" height=\"1224\" src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079382.webp?imageId=84079382&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=32.57&amp;cropw=100.00&amp;croph=59.13&amp;width=3000&amp;height=2040\" style=\"--aspect-ratio-image: 1.47; \" title=\"\" width=\"1800\">\n        </picture>\n        \n            </div>\n    <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n        <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\"></figcaption>\n        <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\"></figcaption>\n    </div></figure>\n        </div>\n        <div class=\"parallax-layer   large-12 small-12\" data-parallax-content-type=\"text_singleline\" data-parallax-fullwidth=\"\" data-parallax-height=\"100\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-desktop=\"\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-mobile=\"\" data-parallax-layer=\"7\" data-parallax-spacebelow=\"0\" data-parallax-verticalalign=\"top\" data-parallax-verticalposition=\"auto\">\n            <div class=\"column text_singleline small-12 large-12 medium-12 small-abs-12 large-abs-12\" data-element-guid=\"5157d93b-11df-4364-ae14-340059bfb2d4\">\n    \n    <h2 class=\"content singleline t27 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center\" style=\" \">\n        I 2021 ble han tilsendt to kammer fra en bekymret seer.\n    </h2>\n</div>\n        </div>\n        <div class=\"parallax-layer   large-12 small-12\" data-parallax-content-type=\"image\" data-parallax-fullwidth=\"\" data-parallax-height=\"100\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-desktop=\"\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-mobile=\"\" data-parallax-layer=\"8\" data-parallax-spacebelow=\"0\" data-parallax-sticky=\"\" data-parallax-verticalalign=\"top\" data-parallax-verticalposition=\"auto\">\n            <figure class=\"\" data-element-guid=\"adb24b53-ea81-4bf0-af46-ee7f75abb415\">\n    <div class=\"img\">\n        <picture>\n          <source height=\"1224\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079400.webp?imageId=84079400&amp;x=6.28&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=84.41&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=3000&amp;height=2040&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"1800\">    \n          <source height=\"1224\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079400.webp?imageId=84079400&amp;x=6.28&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=84.41&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=3000&amp;height=2040&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"1800\">    \n          <source height=\"259\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079400.webp?imageId=84079400&amp;x=6.28&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=84.41&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=518&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"380\">\n          <source height=\"259\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079400.webp?imageId=84079400&amp;x=6.28&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=84.41&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=518&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"380\">\n          <img alt=\"\" class=\"\" height=\"1224\" src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079400.webp?imageId=84079400&amp;x=6.28&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=84.41&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=3000&amp;height=2040\" style=\"--aspect-ratio-image: 1.47; \" title=\"\" width=\"1800\">\n        </picture>\n        \n            </div>\n    <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n        <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\"></figcaption>\n        <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\"></figcaption>\n    </div></figure>\n        </div>\n        <div class=\"parallax-layer   large-12 small-12\" data-parallax-content-type=\"text_singleline\" data-parallax-fullwidth=\"\" data-parallax-height=\"100\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-desktop=\"\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-mobile=\"\" data-parallax-layer=\"9\" data-parallax-spacebelow=\"0\" data-parallax-verticalalign=\"top\" data-parallax-verticalposition=\"auto\">\n            <div class=\"column text_singleline small-12 large-12 medium-12 small-abs-12 large-abs-12\" data-element-guid=\"eba9d0d1-32cb-4bc7-8609-5e8ce9f7baed\">\n    \n    <h2 class=\"content singleline t32 tm18 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center\" style=\" \">\n        Og når håret var glatt, var det plutselig slipsknutene som var problemet.\n    </h2>\n</div>\n        </div>\n        <div class=\"parallax-layer   large-12 small-12\" data-parallax-content-type=\"image\" data-parallax-fullwidth=\"\" data-parallax-height=\"100\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-desktop=\"\" data-parallax-horizontalalign-mobile=\"\" data-parallax-layer=\"10\" data-parallax-spacebelow=\"0\" data-parallax-sticky=\"\" data-parallax-verticalalign=\"top\" data-parallax-verticalposition=\"auto\">\n            <figure class=\"\" data-element-guid=\"daaed1bc-a9a3-48a6-a3b0-a33d839de450\">\n    <div class=\"img\">\n        <picture>\n          <source height=\"1224\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079385.webp?imageId=84079385&amp;x=8.50&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.34&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=3000&amp;height=2040&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"1800\">    \n          <source height=\"1224\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079385.webp?imageId=84079385&amp;x=8.50&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.34&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=3000&amp;height=2040&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"1800\">    \n          <source height=\"259\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079385.webp?imageId=84079385&amp;x=8.50&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.34&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=518&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"380\">\n          <source height=\"259\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079385.webp?imageId=84079385&amp;x=8.50&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.34&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=518&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"380\">\n          <img alt=\"\" class=\"\" height=\"1224\" src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079385.webp?imageId=84079385&amp;x=8.50&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=83.34&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=3000&amp;height=2040\" style=\"--aspect-ratio-image: 1.47; 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\" title=\"\" width=\"1800\">\n        </picture>\n        \n            </div>\n    <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n        <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\"></figcaption>\n        <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\"></figcaption>\n    </div></figure>\n        </div>\n\n\n    </div>\n    \n</div>\n\n\n<p>Dagbladet har naturligvis skrevet om dette ikke <a href=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/kjendis/klar-beskjed-fra-seer---sok-hjelp/74462098\">én</a>, ikke <a href=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/floke-pa-direkten/81020810\">to</a> eller <a href=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/vekker-oppsikt/82175296\">tre</a>, men minst <a href=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/ny-floke-pa-direkten/83094043\">fire</a> ganger. Espen Aas lar seg ikke affisere. </p>\t\n<div class=\"row xrow flex-initial\"><div class=\"adunit-wrapper track-element column small-12 medium-12 large-12\" data-from=\"xavier\" id=\"apos-netboard9\"><div class=\"adunit GoogleActiveViewElement small-580x500 medium-580x500 large-580x500\" data-collapse=\"false\" data-expand=\"false\" data-load-on=\"view\" data-out-of-page=\"false\" data-sizes=\"[[580,400],[580,500],&quot;fluid&quot;]\" data-slot=\"/8578/dagbladet.no/seksjoner/nyheter/artikkel\" id=\"ad-netboard9\" itemscope itemtype=\"https://schema.org/WPAdBlock\" json=\"{&quot;targeting&quot;:{&quot;pos&quot;:&quot;netboard9&quot;,&quot;platform&quot;:&quot;wolverine&quot;}}\"></div></div></div>\n\n\n<div class=\"markup\">\n    \n    <div class=\"track-element\" id=\"read-75-percentage\"></div>\n    \n</div>\n<p><span class=\"italic m-italic\" data-lab-italic=\"italic\">- Du var veldig fin på håret i dag. Hva kan vi forvente oss på den fronten framover?</span></p>\t\n\n\n\n<p>- Det må sies: Jeg er veldig redd for at jeg skal bli for ordentlig på håret, sier Aas. </p>\t\n\n\n\n<p>Dagbladet fikk ikke lov til å bli med inn i stedet hvor magien skjer - sminkerommet - men Aas er godt fornøyd med jobben det nye teamet hans har gjort. </p>\t\n\n\n\n<p>- Jeg fikk en veldig kul variant da vi tok pressebilder, så jeg tok med noen bilder ned og sa «Jeg vil være sånn», sier Aas. </p>\t\n<div class=\"row xrow flex-initial\"><div class=\"adunit-wrapper track-element column small-12 medium-12 large-12\" data-from=\"xavier\" id=\"apos-netboard10\"><div class=\"adunit GoogleActiveViewElement small-580x500 medium-580x500 large-580x500\" data-collapse=\"false\" data-expand=\"false\" data-load-on=\"view\" data-out-of-page=\"false\" data-sizes=\"[[580,400],[580,500],&quot;fluid&quot;]\" data-slot=\"/8578/dagbladet.no/seksjoner/nyheter/artikkel\" id=\"ad-netboard10\" itemscope itemtype=\"https://schema.org/WPAdBlock\" json=\"{&quot;targeting&quot;:{&quot;pos&quot;:&quot;netboard10&quot;,&quot;platform&quot;:&quot;wolverine&quot;}}\"></div></div></div>\n\n\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">- Jeg tror jeg hadde blitt gal hvis jeg hadde fått en sånn speidersveis og sett ut som en tolvåring, fortsetter han. </p><div class=\"column slideshow-box small-12 large-12 medium-12 small-abs-12 large-abs-12\" data-element-guid=\"839560c7-8af9-4d88-93a6-88668079a7cb\" style=\"\">\n    \n    <div class=\"content \">\n        <div class=\"slideshowcontainer fullwidthTarget background-dark\" id=\"slideshow-84079655\">\n            \n            <div class=\"scroll-container swipehelper snap-container-x snap-element-start\">\n                    <div class=\"scroll-item snap-element slideshow-image\">\n                    \n                    <figure class=\"\" data-element-guid=\"cbc3acaf-a6d5-4e2e-9668-4bc4776b9a37\">\n    <div class=\"img\">\n        <picture>\n          <source height=\"435\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079566.webp?imageId=84079566&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=1158&amp;height=870&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"579\">    \n          <source height=\"435\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079566.webp?imageId=84079566&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=1158&amp;height=870&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"579\">    \n          <source height=\"285\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079566.webp?imageId=84079566&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=570&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"380\">\n          <source height=\"285\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079566.webp?imageId=84079566&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=570&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"380\">\n          <img alt=\"\" class=\"\" height=\"435\" src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079566.webp?imageId=84079566&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=1158&amp;height=870\" style=\"--aspect-ratio-image: 1.33; \" title=\"\" width=\"579\">\n        </picture>\n        \n            </div>\n    <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n        <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">NOKSÅ ORDENTLIG: Før sending var det ikke mange hårtustene som ville egne veier.</figcaption>\n        <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Shad Madian</figcaption>\n    </div></figure>\n                    \n                    </div>\n                    <div class=\"scroll-item snap-element slideshow-image\">\n                    \n                    <figure class=\"\" data-element-guid=\"09b91b3e-b46a-4c42-b62f-ef821a2ed6e0\">\n    <div class=\"img\">\n        <picture>\n          <source height=\"654\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079565.webp?imageId=84079565&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=1960&amp;height=1308&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"980\">    \n          <source height=\"654\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079565.webp?imageId=84079565&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=1960&amp;height=1308&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"980\">    \n          <source height=\"254\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079565.webp?imageId=84079565&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=508&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"380\">\n          <source height=\"254\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079565.webp?imageId=84079565&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=508&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"380\">\n          <img alt=\"\" class=\"\" height=\"654\" src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079565.webp?imageId=84079565&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=88.97&amp;croph=100.00&amp;width=1960&amp;height=1308\" style=\"--aspect-ratio-image: 1.50; \" title=\"\" width=\"980\">\n        </picture>\n        \n            </div>\n    <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n        <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">KALAS: Etter sendingen hadde håret noe mer liv. Slipset ble også raskt løsnet til «klokka-11-på-julebordet-nivå».</figcaption>\n        <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Shad Madian</figcaption>\n    </div></figure>\n                    \n                    </div>\n            </div>\n            <nav>\n                <span class=\"arrow left\">\n                    <span></span>\n                </span>\n                <span class=\"arrow right\">\n                    <span></span>\n                </span>\n                \n                \n            </nav>\n        \n        </div>\n    </div>\n</div><p>Det spøker altså for den glatte speidersleiken kritikerne tilsynelatende ønsker å se. </p>\t\n<div class=\"row xrow flex-initial\"><div class=\"adunit-wrapper track-element column small-12 medium-12 large-12\" data-from=\"xavier\" id=\"apos-netboard11\"><div class=\"adunit GoogleActiveViewElement small-580x500 medium-580x500 large-580x500\" data-collapse=\"false\" data-expand=\"false\" data-load-on=\"view\" data-out-of-page=\"false\" data-sizes=\"[[580,400],[580,500],&quot;fluid&quot;]\" data-slot=\"/8578/dagbladet.no/seksjoner/nyheter/artikkel\" id=\"ad-netboard11\" itemscope itemtype=\"https://schema.org/WPAdBlock\" json=\"{&quot;targeting&quot;:{&quot;pos&quot;:&quot;netboard11&quot;,&quot;platform&quot;:&quot;wolverine&quot;}}\"></div></div></div>\n\n\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">Men Aas har også skumle planer på slipsfronten. </p>\t\n\n\n\n<p>Gjennom Dagbladets pågående dekning av Espen Aas sitt utseende har hans knusktørre humor til stadighet skint gjennom.</p>\t\n\n\n\n<p>- Nå har jeg dem i alle fall til et nødstilfelle, så jeg kan <span class=\"italic m-italic\" data-lab-italic=\"italic\">greie</span> meg selv, sa han til Dagbladet da han fikk to kammer i posten i 2021. <br></p>\t\n\n\n\n<p>- <span class=\"italic m-italic\" data-lab-italic=\"italic\">Kam</span> jo ha bitte litt rufs, sa han da han ble tatt i å ha rufsete hår i 2024. </p>\t\n<div class=\"row xrow flex-initial\"><div class=\"adunit-wrapper track-element column small-12 medium-12 large-12\" data-from=\"xavier\" id=\"apos-netboard12\"><div class=\"adunit GoogleActiveViewElement small-580x500 medium-580x500 large-580x500\" data-collapse=\"false\" data-expand=\"false\" data-load-on=\"view\" data-out-of-page=\"false\" data-sizes=\"[[580,400],[580,500],&quot;fluid&quot;]\" data-slot=\"/8578/dagbladet.no/seksjoner/nyheter/artikkel\" id=\"ad-netboard12\" itemscope itemtype=\"https://schema.org/WPAdBlock\" json=\"{&quot;targeting&quot;:{&quot;pos&quot;:&quot;netboard12&quot;,&quot;platform&quot;:&quot;wolverine&quot;}}\"></div></div></div>\n\n\n<p>Når han like før dette intervjuets slutt dropper en «cliffhanger» klarer han heller ikke å dy seg.</p><figure class=\"column expandwidth small-12 large-12 medium-12 small-abs-12 large-abs-12\" data-element-guid=\"c3fea429-623b-4072-9453-86c45faa5dd9\">\n  \n  <div class=\"content \" style=\"\">\n\n    <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n      <picture>\n        <source height=\"559\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079567.webp?imageId=84079567&amp;width=1960&amp;height=1118&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"980\">    \n        <source height=\"559\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079567.webp?imageId=84079567&amp;width=1960&amp;height=1118&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"980\">    \n        <source height=\"217\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079567.webp?imageId=84079567&amp;width=760&amp;height=434&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"380\">\n        <source height=\"217\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079567.webp?imageId=84079567&amp;width=760&amp;height=434&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"380\">\n        <img alt=\"\" class=\"\" height=\"559\" src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84079567.webp?imageId=84079567&amp;width=1960&amp;height=1118\" style=\"--aspect-ratio-image: 1.75; \" title=\"«HELT SKAVLAND»: Her har programlederne fått beskjed om å kaste kortene sine i været. 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Foto: Shad Madian / Dagbladet</figcaption>\n    </div>\n  </div>\n</figure>\n<p class=\"italic m-italic\" data-lab-italic=\"italic\">- Hva skjer på slipsfronten?</p>\t\n<div class=\"row xrow flex-initial\"><div class=\"adunit-wrapper track-element column small-12 medium-12 large-12\" data-from=\"xavier\" id=\"apos-netboard13\"><div class=\"adunit GoogleActiveViewElement small-580x500 medium-580x500 large-580x500\" data-collapse=\"false\" data-expand=\"false\" data-load-on=\"view\" data-out-of-page=\"false\" data-sizes=\"[[580,400],[580,500],&quot;fluid&quot;]\" data-slot=\"/8578/dagbladet.no/seksjoner/nyheter/artikkel\" id=\"ad-netboard13\" itemscope itemtype=\"https://schema.org/WPAdBlock\" json=\"{&quot;targeting&quot;:{&quot;pos&quot;:&quot;netboard13&quot;,&quot;platform&quot;:&quot;wolverine&quot;}}\"></div></div></div>\n\n\n<p data-lab-font_weight=\"\">- Det blir litt kule farger på slipsene og så tror jeg verden tåler mer enn Windsor hver gang, sier han med et lurt smil.</p>\t\n\n\n\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">- En «slipshanger»! legger han raskt til.</p>\t\n<div class=\"row xrow flex-initial\"></div>\n\n\n<p>- Få opp tipstelefonen! skyter Vartdal inn. </p><div class=\"column text_singleline small-12 large-12 medium-12 small-abs-12 large-abs-12\" data-element-guid=\"eb5cdc72-4097-4eaf-8108-758addd9b56f\">\n    \n    <h2 class=\"content singleline t33 tm21 bg-gray color_mobile_bg-gray text-red color_mobile_text-red italic m-italic hasTextPadding mobile-hasTextPadding\" style=\" \">\n        <span class=\"tm21\" data-lab-text_size_mobile=\"21\">Tips oss om håret til Espen Aas!</span> <br><span class=\"text-black color_mobile_text-black font-weight-normal m-font-weight-normal no_italic m-no_italic t20 tm16\" data-lab-font_weight_desktop=\"font-weight-normal\" data-lab-italic_desktop=\"\" data-lab-text_color_desktop=\"text-black\" data-lab-text_size_desktop=\"20\" 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Han trenger ikke å ta over\nGrønland for det. Det er bare tull og tøys fra hans side. Hvis han inngår en\navtale, kan han få mineraler fra Grønland uten problemer, mener Ratvik.</p>  <div class=\"adunit-wrapper columns track-element small-12 large-12 medium-12\">\n    <div class=\"adunit GoogleActiveViewElement large-580x500\" data-collapse=\"false\" data-load-on=\"view\" data-out-of-page=\"\" data-sizes=\"[[580,400],[580,500],&quot;fluid&quot;]\" data-slot=\"/8578/dagbladet.no/seksjoner/nyheter/artikkel\" id=\"ad-netboardB2\" itemscope=\"\" itemtype=\"https://schema.org/WPAdBlock\" json=\"{&quot;targeting&quot;: { &quot;pos&quot;: &quot;netboardB2&quot;, &quot;platform&quot;: &quot;labrador dynamic&quot;,&quot;context&quot;:&quot;Or,ran,teknologi,data,Reality,EM,Shipping,is,SAS&quot; }}\">\n    </div>\n\n  </div>\n<p>Seniorforskeren koordinerer det store europeiske prosjektet Supreemo (Sustainable European rare earth elements production value chain from primary ores). </p><div class=\"byline column small-12 large-12 medium-12 small-abs-12 large-abs-12  \" data-element-guid=\"62110df7-6e58-4af7-89d3-2bcc02bdf454\" itemscope itemtype=\"http://schema.org/Person\">\n    \n    <div class=\"content  \">\n        <figure data-element-guid=\"bf8711c2-6619-41f3-ac84-8e33507f3570\">\n    <picture>\n        <img alt=\"Arne Petter Ratvik\" height=\"180\" itemprop=\"image\" src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84073329.webp?imageId=84073329&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=100.00&amp;croph=74.83&amp;width=360&amp;height=360\" width=\"180\">\n    </picture>\n</figure>\n        <address class=\"name\">\n            \n            <span class=\"lab-hidden-byline-name\" itemprop=\"name\">Arne Petter Ratvik</span>\n            <span class=\"firstname\">Arne Petter</span>\n            <span class=\"lastname\">Ratvik</span>        \n            \n        </address>\n        <div class=\"extended_description \">Seniorforsker Sintef</div>\n    </div>\n</div>\n<p>Prosjektet skal være med og sikre sjeldne jordarter for Europa, og Ratvik har tidligere jobbet tett med gruveaktører i Grønland, forteller han.</p>  <div class=\"adunit-wrapper columns track-element small-12 large-12 medium-12\">\n    <div class=\"adunit GoogleActiveViewElement large-580x500\" data-collapse=\"false\" data-load-on=\"view\" data-out-of-page=\"\" data-sizes=\"[[580,400],[580,500],&quot;fluid&quot;]\" data-slot=\"/8578/dagbladet.no/seksjoner/nyheter/artikkel\" id=\"ad-netboardB3\" itemscope=\"\" itemtype=\"https://schema.org/WPAdBlock\" json=\"{&quot;targeting&quot;: { &quot;pos&quot;: &quot;netboardB3&quot;, &quot;platform&quot;: &quot;labrador dynamic&quot;,&quot;context&quot;:&quot;Or,ran,teknologi,data,Reality,EM,Shipping,is,SAS&quot; }}\">\n    </div>\n\n  </div>\n<p class=\"font-weight-normal m-font-weight-normal\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-normal\">- Hvis du støtter opp om de som driver med utvinning, så får\ndu mineralene du har behov for. Han trenger ikke å gå inn for det, han klarer uansett ikke\nå få ut mer enn de som allerede er etablert. Trump vil ikke ha problemer med å få\nsjeldne jordarter fra Grønland.</p><p>Ratvik mener at de sjeldne jordartene derimot kan være et argument Trump bruker for å rettferdiggjøre en overtakelse. </p><article class=\" small-12 large-12 medium-12 small-abs-12 large-abs-12 preview-link \" data-element-guid=\"a6af4052-d47f-4e84-a67d-5c5d3f621c62\" data-instance=\"84067903\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagbladet\">\n\n  <div class=\"content bg-white color_mobile_bg-white hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n    <a href=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/ma-vaere-forberedt-pa-det-verste/84067903\" itemprop=\"url\">\n          \n          <figure class=\"\" data-element-guid=\"eb75ed92-4dd1-44af-b391-0eabe3c500d2\" style=\"--padding-bottom-image: 45.00%; \">\n\n\n      <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget \">\n      <picture>\n        <source height=\"441\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84068150.webp?imageId=84068150&amp;x=21.90&amp;y=20.37&amp;cropw=60.00&amp;croph=43.00&amp;heightx=24.88&amp;heighty=0.00&amp;heightw=41.43&amp;heighth=100.00&amp;width=1960&amp;height=882&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"980\">    \n        <source height=\"441\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84068150.webp?imageId=84068150&amp;x=21.90&amp;y=20.37&amp;cropw=60.00&amp;croph=43.00&amp;heightx=24.88&amp;heighty=0.00&amp;heightw=41.43&amp;heighth=100.00&amp;width=1960&amp;height=882&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"980\">    \n        <source height=\"171\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84068150.webp?imageId=84068150&amp;x=21.90&amp;y=20.37&amp;cropw=60.00&amp;croph=43.00&amp;heightx=24.88&amp;heighty=0.00&amp;heightw=41.43&amp;heighth=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=342&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"380\">\n        <source height=\"171\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84068150.webp?imageId=84068150&amp;x=21.90&amp;y=20.37&amp;cropw=60.00&amp;croph=43.00&amp;heightx=24.88&amp;heighty=0.00&amp;heightw=41.43&amp;heighth=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=342&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"380\">\n        <img alt=\"\" class=\"lazyload\" data-src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84068150.webp?imageId=84068150&amp;x=21.90&amp;y=20.37&amp;cropw=60.00&amp;croph=43.00&amp;heightx=24.88&amp;heighty=0.00&amp;heightw=41.43&amp;heighth=100.00&amp;width=1960&amp;height=882\" height=\"441\" style=\"--aspect-ratio-image: 2.22; \" title=\"- Må være forberedt på det verste\" width=\"980\">\n      </picture>\n      \n            </div>\n\n  \n\n\n\n</figure>\n\n\n      <header data-before-content=\"Les også\">\n        <h3 class=\"headline\">- Må være forberedt på det verste</h3>\n\n\n      </header>\n      <span class=\"arrow\">\n          <svg height=\"24\" viewbox=\"0 0 24 17\" width=\"24\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\">\n              <g fill=\"none\" fill-rule=\"evenodd\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-width=\"1.2\">\n                  <path d=\"M15.4 1l4 3.825 4 3.775-4 3.825-4 3.775\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\"></path>\n                  <path d=\"M22.2 8.6H1\"></path>\n              </g>\n          </svg>\n      </span>\n    </a>\n\n  </div>\n\n</article>\n<h3>- Kan hente innenlands</h3>  <div class=\"adunit-wrapper columns track-element small-12 large-12 medium-12\">\n    <div class=\"adunit GoogleActiveViewElement large-580x500\" data-collapse=\"false\" data-load-on=\"view\" data-out-of-page=\"\" data-sizes=\"[[580,400],[580,500],&quot;fluid&quot;]\" data-slot=\"/8578/dagbladet.no/seksjoner/nyheter/artikkel\" id=\"ad-netboardB4\" itemscope=\"\" itemtype=\"https://schema.org/WPAdBlock\" json=\"{&quot;targeting&quot;: { &quot;pos&quot;: &quot;netboardB4&quot;, &quot;platform&quot;: &quot;labrador dynamic&quot;,&quot;context&quot;:&quot;Or,ran,teknologi,data,Reality,EM,Shipping,is,SAS&quot; }}\">\n    </div>\n\n  </div>\n<p>Selv har Trump flere ganger uttalt at USA trenger Grønland av hensyn til nasjonal sikkerhet. </p><p>For et år siden sa Trumps nasjonale sikkerhetsrådgiver Michael Waltz at Trumps interesse for Grønland «handler om kritiske mineraler. Dette handler om naturressurser,» ifølge <a href=\"https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/14/greenland-critical-minerals-are-big-part-of-donald-trumps-fixation.html\">CNBC</a>. (Waltz mistet seinere jobben, etter den såkalte <a href=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/brutal-melding-bor-trekke-seg/82878871?utm_source=chatgpt.com\">«Signalgate»</a>).</p><p>Også internasjonale eksperter slakter drømmen om å overta Grønland for å få tak i de sjeldne metallene. </p><figure class=\"column expandwidth small-12 large-12 medium-12 small-abs-12 large-abs-12\" data-element-guid=\"ef4fadbe-6a18-484e-bd8c-568e7a9133d4\">\n  \n  <div class=\"content \" style=\"\">\n\n    <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n      <picture>\n        <source height=\"559\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84073388.webp?imageId=84073388&amp;width=1960&amp;height=1118&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"980\">    \n        <source height=\"559\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84073388.webp?imageId=84073388&amp;width=1960&amp;height=1118&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"980\">    \n        <source height=\"217\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84073388.webp?imageId=84073388&amp;width=760&amp;height=434&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"380\">\n        <source height=\"217\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84073388.webp?imageId=84073388&amp;width=760&amp;height=434&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"380\">\n        <img alt=\"\" class=\"\" height=\"559\" src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84073388.webp?imageId=84073388&amp;width=1960&amp;height=1118\" style=\"--aspect-ratio-image: 1.75; \" title=\"FRISTER: Under jordoverflata i Grønland finnes mange sjeldne jordarter. Bildet er fra Nuuk. Foto: Odd Andersen / AFP / NTB\" width=\"980\">\n      </picture>\n      \n          </div>\n\n    <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n        <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">FRISTER: Under jordoverflata i Grønland finnes mange sjeldne jordarter. Bildet er fra Nuuk. Foto: Odd Andersen / AFP / NTB</figcaption>\n    </div>\n  </div>\n</figure>\n<p>- Hvis Washington virkelig ønsket tilgang på sjeldne jordarter, har de det allerede, sier Jon Hykawy, president og styreleder i Stormcrow Capital til <a href=\"https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/07/greenland-rare-earths-us-china-processing-reality-mining-arctic-shipping-lanes-route-critical-minerals.html\">CNBC</a>.</p>  <div class=\"adunit-wrapper columns track-element small-12 large-12 medium-12\">\n    <div class=\"adunit GoogleActiveViewElement large-580x500\" data-collapse=\"false\" data-load-on=\"view\" data-out-of-page=\"\" data-sizes=\"[[580,400],[580,500],&quot;fluid&quot;]\" data-slot=\"/8578/dagbladet.no/seksjoner/nyheter/artikkel\" id=\"ad-netboardB5\" itemscope=\"\" itemtype=\"https://schema.org/WPAdBlock\" json=\"{&quot;targeting&quot;: { &quot;pos&quot;: &quot;netboardB5&quot;, &quot;platform&quot;: &quot;labrador dynamic&quot;,&quot;context&quot;:&quot;Or,ran,teknologi,data,Reality,EM,Shipping,is,SAS&quot; }}\">\n    </div>\n\n  </div>\n<p>Ifølge US Geological Survey er USAs reserver av sjeldne jordarter anslått til 1,9 millioner tonn, mot Grønlands anslåtte 1,5 millioner tonn.</p><p>- Hvis USA vil ha sjeldne jordarter, kan de ganske enkelt hente dem opp på fastlands-USA, sier han.</p><article class=\" small-12 large-12 medium-12 small-abs-12 large-abs-12 preview-link \" data-element-guid=\"44250699-04a4-47fc-bd30-ba90bb25a402\" data-instance=\"84069580\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagbladet\">\n\n  <div class=\"content bg-white color_mobile_bg-white hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n    <a href=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/trump-venner-raser-mot-gronland-planene/84069580\" itemprop=\"url\">\n          \n          <figure class=\"\" data-element-guid=\"19f6792b-aa32-4ced-8e61-afb8b90abb50\" style=\"--padding-bottom-image: 45.00%; \">\n\n\n      <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget \">\n      <picture>\n        <source height=\"441\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84069830.webp?imageId=84069830&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=100.00&amp;croph=100.00&amp;heightx=0.00&amp;heighty=0.00&amp;heightw=100.00&amp;heighth=100.00&amp;width=1960&amp;height=882&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"980\">    \n        <source height=\"441\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84069830.webp?imageId=84069830&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=100.00&amp;croph=100.00&amp;heightx=0.00&amp;heighty=0.00&amp;heightw=100.00&amp;heighth=100.00&amp;width=1960&amp;height=882&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"980\">    \n        <source height=\"171\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84069830.webp?imageId=84069830&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=100.00&amp;croph=100.00&amp;heightx=0.00&amp;heighty=0.00&amp;heightw=100.00&amp;heighth=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=342&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"380\">\n        <source height=\"171\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84069830.webp?imageId=84069830&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=100.00&amp;croph=100.00&amp;heightx=0.00&amp;heighty=0.00&amp;heightw=100.00&amp;heighth=100.00&amp;width=760&amp;height=342&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"380\">\n        <img alt=\"\" class=\"lazyload\" data-src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84069830.webp?imageId=84069830&amp;x=0.00&amp;y=0.00&amp;cropw=100.00&amp;croph=100.00&amp;heightx=0.00&amp;heighty=0.00&amp;heightw=100.00&amp;heighth=100.00&amp;width=1960&amp;height=882\" height=\"441\" style=\"--aspect-ratio-image: 2.22; \" title=\"Trump-venner raser mot Grønland-planene\" width=\"980\">\n      </picture>\n      \n            </div>\n\n  \n\n\n\n</figure>\n\n\n      <header data-before-content=\"Les også\">\n        <h3 class=\"headline\">Trump-venner raser mot Grønland-planene</h3>\n\n\n      </header>\n      <span class=\"arrow\">\n          <svg height=\"24\" viewbox=\"0 0 24 17\" width=\"24\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\">\n              <g fill=\"none\" fill-rule=\"evenodd\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-width=\"1.2\">\n                  <path d=\"M15.4 1l4 3.825 4 3.775-4 3.825-4 3.775\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\"></path>\n                  <path d=\"M22.2 8.6H1\"></path>\n              </g>\n          </svg>\n      </span>\n    </a>\n\n  </div>\n\n</article>\n<h3>- Absurd</h3><p>John Mavrogenes, professor i økonomisk geologi på Australian National University, sier til CNBC at selv om Grønland har store forekomster, er innholdet av de mest verdifulle sjeldne jordartene lavt. I tillegg vil det ta lang tid å hente ut. </p><p>Selv med optimistiske forutsetninger vil produksjon på Grønland ta minst et tiår før de faktisk får gjort noe, ifølge Mavrogenes: </p>  <div class=\"adunit-wrapper columns track-element small-12 large-12 medium-12\">\n    <div class=\"adunit GoogleActiveViewElement large-580x500\" data-collapse=\"false\" data-load-on=\"view\" data-out-of-page=\"\" data-sizes=\"[[580,400],[580,500],&quot;fluid&quot;]\" data-slot=\"/8578/dagbladet.no/seksjoner/nyheter/artikkel\" id=\"ad-netboardB6\" itemscope=\"\" itemtype=\"https://schema.org/WPAdBlock\" json=\"{&quot;targeting&quot;: { &quot;pos&quot;: &quot;netboardB6&quot;, &quot;platform&quot;: &quot;labrador dynamic&quot;,&quot;context&quot;:&quot;Or,ran,teknologi,data,Reality,EM,Shipping,is,SAS&quot; }}\">\n    </div>\n\n  </div>\n<p>- Tanken om at dette kan bli en suksess på kort sikt, er absurd.</p><p>Ratvik i Sintef bekrefter at en produksjon tar lang tid å få i gang. </p><p>- Det tar mye tid fra oppstart til produksjon og det er den\nmest utfordrende perioden. Det koster veldig mye å starte opp gruvedrift.</p><p>Han peker også på andre hindringer. </p><div class=\"markup\">\n    \n    <div class=\"track-element\" id=\"read-75-percentage\"></div>\n    \n</div>\n<p>- Grønlenderne er ikke nødvendigvis hundre prosent begeistret for\ngruvedrift, det er flere utfordringer der. Nesten alle steder man starter med\ngruvedrift er det motstand, selv om mange også er for fordi det skaper arbeidsplasser\nog inntekter, sier Ratvik.</p><article class=\" small-12 large-12 medium-12 small-abs-12 large-abs-12 preview-link \" data-element-guid=\"5d8f7e99-f883-4229-b9f2-504b8c3281e3\" data-instance=\"\" data-section=\"\" data-site-alias=\"\">\n\n  <div class=\"content bg-white color_mobile_bg-white hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n    <a href=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/video/langer-ut-mot-danmark/zGerfIFB\" itemprop=\"url\">\n          \n          <figure class=\"\" data-element-guid=\"f142e3d0-ee09-4b63-8bb1-d7265fe8b52a\" style=\"--padding-bottom-image: 66.67%; \">\n\n\n      <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget \">\n      <picture>\n        <source height=\"98\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84073449.webp?x=0.00&amp;y=21.27&amp;cropw=100.00&amp;croph=37.31&amp;width=294&amp;height=196&amp;format=webp&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"147\">    \n        <source height=\"98\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84073449.webp?x=0.00&amp;y=21.27&amp;cropw=100.00&amp;croph=37.31&amp;width=294&amp;height=196&amp;format=webp&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"147\">    \n        <source height=\"251\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84073449.webp?x=0.00&amp;y=21.27&amp;cropw=100.00&amp;croph=37.31&amp;width=760&amp;height=502&amp;format=webp&amp;format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"380\">\n        <source height=\"251\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84073449.webp?x=0.00&amp;y=21.27&amp;cropw=100.00&amp;croph=37.31&amp;width=760&amp;height=502&amp;format=webp&amp;format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"380\">\n        <img alt=\"\" class=\"lazyload\" data-src=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/images/84073449.webp?x=0.00&amp;y=21.27&amp;cropw=100.00&amp;croph=37.31&amp;width=294&amp;height=196&amp;format=webp\" height=\"98\" style=\"--aspect-ratio-image: 1.50; \" title=\"Langer ut mot Danmark\" width=\"147\">\n      </picture>\n      \n            </div>\n\n  \n    <div class=\"figure-logo\">\n      <div class=\"logo\">\n        <svg class=\"play-icon\" fill=\"currentColor\" role=\"img\" viewbox=\"0 0 24 24\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\">\n  <title>Video</title>\n  <polygon points=\"5 3 19 12 5 21 5 3\"></polygon>\n</svg>\n\n      </div>\n    </div>\n\n\n\n</figure>\n\n\n      <header data-before-content=\"Se også\">\n        <h3 class=\"headline\">Langer ut mot Danmark</h3>\n\n\n      </header>\n      <span class=\"arrow\">\n          <svg height=\"24\" viewbox=\"0 0 24 17\" width=\"24\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\">\n              <g fill=\"none\" fill-rule=\"evenodd\" stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-width=\"1.2\">\n                  <path d=\"M15.4 1l4 3.825 4 3.775-4 3.825-4 3.775\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\"></path>\n                  <path d=\"M22.2 8.6H1\"></path>\n              </g>\n          </svg>\n      </span>\n    </a>\n\n  </div>\n\n</article>\n<h3>Krevende</h3>  <div class=\"adunit-wrapper columns track-element small-12 large-12 medium-12\">\n    <div class=\"adunit GoogleActiveViewElement large-580x500\" data-collapse=\"false\" data-load-on=\"view\" data-out-of-page=\"\" data-sizes=\"[[580,400],[580,500],&quot;fluid&quot;]\" data-slot=\"/8578/dagbladet.no/seksjoner/nyheter/artikkel\" id=\"ad-netboardB7\" itemscope=\"\" itemtype=\"https://schema.org/WPAdBlock\" json=\"{&quot;targeting&quot;: { &quot;pos&quot;: &quot;netboardB7&quot;, &quot;platform&quot;: &quot;labrador dynamic&quot;,&quot;context&quot;:&quot;Or,ran,teknologi,data,Reality,EM,Shipping,is,SAS&quot; }}\">\n    </div>\n\n  </div>\n<p>Sjeldne jordarter er en samlebetegnelse på 17 metaller som finnes i jordskorpa. Ikke alle er så sjeldne som navnet indikerer, men det kreves mye ressurser å utvinne dem. </p><p>Selve innholdet av sjeldne jordarter i bergmassene varierer, men på Grønland ligger det rundt tre prosent, ifølge Ratvik.  </p><p>Spesielt er prosesseringen krevende, fordi bergmassene ofte også inneholder de radioaktive stoffene thorium og uran, som må håndteres forsvarlig, forteller Ratvik.</p><p>- På Grønland har de en god del uran.</p><p>Han sier at sjeldne jordarter er «enormt viktige» i det grønne skiftet.</p>  <div class=\"adunit-wrapper columns track-element small-12 large-12 medium-12\">\n    <div class=\"adunit GoogleActiveViewElement large-580x500\" data-collapse=\"false\" data-load-on=\"view\" data-out-of-page=\"\" data-sizes=\"[[580,400],[580,500],&quot;fluid&quot;]\" data-slot=\"/8578/dagbladet.no/seksjoner/nyheter/artikkel\" id=\"ad-netboardB8\" itemscope=\"\" itemtype=\"https://schema.org/WPAdBlock\" json=\"{&quot;targeting&quot;: { &quot;pos&quot;: &quot;netboardB8&quot;, &quot;platform&quot;: &quot;labrador dynamic&quot;,&quot;context&quot;:&quot;Or,ran,teknologi,data,Reality,EM,Shipping,is,SAS&quot; }}\">\n    </div>\n\n  </div>\n<p>- Det inngår jo i alle effektive drivsystemer, for eksempel\ni vindmøller, drivverk for elektriske biler og fly.</p><h3>Kina dominerer</h3><p>Kinas dominerende rolle innenfor sjeldne jordarter trekkes av mange fram som en motivasjon for at USA nå intensiverer jakten på disse metallene, også innenfor egne grenser.</p><p> - USA støtter massivt opp\nom produksjonen i USA og finansierer mye når det gjelder både neodym,\npraseodym, dysprosium og terbium, sier Ratvik.<br></p><p>Per 2025 dominerte Kina verdens reserver av sjeldne jordartsmineraler, med 44 millioner tonn, nesten halvparten av verdens samlede, estimerte reserver på 91,9 millioner tonn, ifølge <a href=\"https://www.newsweek.com/map-greenland-rare-earth-minerals-compare-world-11320396?utm_source=chatgpt.com\">Newsweek</a>.</p><p>Til sammenligning er Grønlands reserver som sagt anslått til om lag 1,5 millioner tonn, og USAs reserver på 1,9 millioner tonn, ifølge US Geological Survey.</p><p>Fensfeltet i Telemark har for øvrig Europas største kjente forekomst av sjeldne jordarter, men det er ikke kommet i gang noen utvinning der.</p>\n\n    \n\n    \n</div>\n</article>\n\n\n    </div>\n\n    </main>\n\n    <template class=\"definitionTemplate\">\n      <div class=\"definitionPopup\">\n        <div class=\"definitionInfo\">\n          <p></p>\n          <span></span>\n          <button class=\"definitionClose\">✕</button>\n        </div>\n      </div>\n    </template>\n\n    <div class=\"ad-coupon-links-wrapper ios-app-hide\">\n      <div class=\"ad-coupon-links \">\n        <div class=\"coupon_heading\">Annonsørinnhold:</div>\n        <ul>\n          <li><a class=\"button neutral small\" href=\"https://www.plussmobil.no?channel=allersites_footer\" target=\"_blank\">PlussMobil</a></li>\n          <li><a class=\"button neutral small\" href=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/annonse/omstartslan/83615767\" target=\"_blank\">OMSTARTSLÅN</a></li>\n          <li><a class=\"button neutral small\" href=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/forbrukslan/\" target=\"_blank\">BILLIGSTE FORBRUKSLÅN</a></li>\n        </ul>\n        <ul>\n          <li><a class=\"button neutral small\" href=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/kredittkort/\" target=\"_blank\">Kredittkort</a></li>\n          <li><a class=\"button neutral small\" href=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/black-friday\" target=\"_blank\">Black Friday</a></li>\n          <li><a class=\"button neutral small\" href=\"https://www.dagbladet.no/annonse/refinansiering/83638364\" target=\"_blank\">REFINANSIERE LÅN</a></li>\n        </ul>\n      </div>\n    </div>\n\n          \n          <link href=\"/am-assets/stylesheets/app.min.css\" id=\"am-styles\" rel=\"stylesheet\">\n          \n          \n          \n          \n          \n          \n          <div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"dialog\" id=\"adinfo-dialog\">\n            <div class=\"dialog-overlay\" data-a11y-dialog-hide tabindex=\"-1\"></div>\n            <dialog aria-describedby=\"dialogDescription\" aria-labelledby=\"dialogTitle\" class=\"dialog-content\">\n              <button aria-label=\"Close this dialog window\" class=\"tiny button dialog-close close-ad-info-dialog\" data-a11y-dialog-hide> <span class=\"icon-Close\"></span> lukk</button>\n              <h4 id=\"dialogTitle\"><span class=\"dialogTitle-alias\"></span> er en del av <strong>Aller Media</strong></h4>\n              <h5 class=\"why-this-ad-heading\">Hvorfor ser du denne annonsen</h5>\n              <p class=\"why-this-ad-description\" id=\"dialogDescription\">\n                Nettstedet du nå besøker blir i stor del finansiert av annonseinntekter. 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