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Fastlege Mozzie Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet.
I et innlegg i Aftenposten beskriver fastlege Mozzie Marvati sitt liv og virke i Norge på en måte som fortjener respekt. Det er ingen motsetning mellom hans biografi og mitt anliggende.
Problemet oppstår først når han gjør sin egen historie til et motargument mot en analyse som aldri handlet om ham.
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Det som skaper mistanke, er uklare forventninger, skriver Asle Toje.
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Fastlege Mozzie Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet.
I et innlegg i Aftenposten beskriver fastlege Mozzie Marvati sitt liv og virke i Norge på en måte som fortjener respekt. Det er ingen motsetning mellom hans biografi og mitt anliggende.
Problemet oppstår først når han gjør sin egen historie til et motargument mot en analyse som aldri handlet om ham.
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2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&w=1440&s=e0dda881856225e0b567f6f433d568357839c43f 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1024&w=1024&s=4f21cc6f62967dad9089f94ae72c8d130f34552b 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=980&w=980&s=07930049779021b8f686961d409a95193f4c464a 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=780&w=780&s=c02ac1ea8a33f352052273775765d83f1b3429a9 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=580&w=580&s=9c1e0f8b8f79c041350fa9bd5798e28ede5f08ff 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=380&w=380&s=41abffb40d1f1fc7ae1091e6c8d41083605da8bf 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=200&w=200&s=123dd9333f6133e407c80072658e6e4b4bf8d051 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=100&w=100&s=27d883be83813044b8c6defab4461cf425272c6d 100w" style="aspect-ratio:2048 / 2048"></div><div class="hyperion-css-0"><span class="byline-name hyperion-css-1cn5stf" data-test-tag="byline:author-name" data-testid="byline:author-name">Asle Toje</span><div class="hyperion-css-lc8ynt">Utenrikspolitisk forsker og kommentator</div></div></a></li></ul></div></div><figure class="image fullWidthDesktop top stretch-image-asset-on-mobile landscape hyperion-css-mochwu" data-test-tag="image"><img alt="En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege, svarer Asle Toje." class="image-asset hyperion-css-15sw6kl" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="high" loading="eager" sizes="(min-width: 380px) 980px, 100vw" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1365&w=2048&s=a0bcc5dcdb12826301c349f23e50500e156e5ea5" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1365&w=2048&s=a0bcc5dcdb12826301c349f23e50500e156e5ea5 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=960&w=1440&s=13e6e8653ef8f5ef4a66c2bfa7b7a001bcefe091 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=683&w=1024&s=3a9bb512e3ca5682ff5c732114d544558c13543e 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=653&w=980&s=7cd85e80e082c441e8b5e4ad2e037c370bc6a0cf 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=520&w=780&s=a4454af7df5258242429631735445fda52f33afa 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=387&w=580&s=fb1aa8caa0caeded7221ac48b59acdc5bbd2379a 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=253&w=380&s=ee9047c12c1529c4081992e0284b761806f3325f 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=133&w=200&s=e7f63cb3f6312eeeda128db4caf78bed4fee89de 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=67&w=100&s=4e5299ceb9ca601762fb785be25466a14e28f20d 100w" style="aspect-ratio:2048 / 1365"><figcaption class="image-figcaption hyperion-css-1ksg4fz" data-test-tag="image:caption"><span aria-hidden="true" class="image-caption">En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege, svarer Asle Toje.</span><span class="image-byline hyperion-css-161dy2i"> Foto: Dan P. Neegaard</span></figcaption></figure><p class="contentWidth hyperion-css-1mepuqa" data-test-tag="lead-text">Fastlege Mozzie Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet.</p><div class="paywall hyperion-css-h9wc15" data-test-tag="timestamp"><div><time aria-label="Publisert: 30.12.2025 10:29" datetime="2025-12-30T09:29:59Z" itemprop="datePublished">Publisert: 30.12.2025 10:29</time></div></div><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">I et innlegg i Aftenposten beskriver fastlege Mozzie Marvati sitt liv og virke i Norge på en måte som fortjener respekt. Det er ingen motsetning mellom hans biografi og mitt anliggende.</p><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">Problemet oppstår først når han gjør sin egen historie til et motargument mot en analyse som aldri handlet om ham.</p><div class="hyperion-css-1ykv2lv"><div class="hyperion-css-l9jsj3"><p class="hyperion-css-1qm9e9t">Du har nå lest dine gratis artikler denne uken. Bli abonnent for å lese videre.</p><button class="hyperion-css-1xvjrme" type="button">Allerede abonnent? Logg inn</button></div></div></article><div class="advertory-brandmetrics-survey" id="brandmetrics-survey"></div><div class="extendedContent paywall hyperion-css-177q39v" id="widget-recirculation-matrix-most-sold"><h2 class="hyperion-css-r57xc5" data-test-tag="widget:title">Les også</h2><div class="bundle extendedContent hyperion-css-cbecqi"><ol class="hyperion-css-1700tdj"><li class="hyperion-css-1lcs599"><a aria-label="Hun eksperimenterte med dop og slåssing. Broren ble drapsmann og søsteren kokainsmugler." class="imagePosition-top medium magazine-teaser hyperion-css-bvr9ut" data-test-tag="teaser-medium:link-internal" href="/amagasinet/i/3MdXde/nikita-marie-rodriguez-ville-drepe-sin-egen-bror" rel="" target=""><div class="hyperion-css-bjn8wh"><div class="hyperion-css-1k8sl4j"><img alt="" class="image-asset hyperion-css-3atq9u" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="(min-width: 981px) 980px, 100vw" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=a70192d8908879167aed2d514a9102632a41d8b8" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=a70192d8908879167aed2d514a9102632a41d8b8 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&w=1440&s=f71fe4d70a458696964c94168f960065fc84c364 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&w=1024&s=953562d9bf8f3139366c3269150df7386b4dd77f 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&w=980&s=7b844a3e227f8371020ad01a2a3939cbe12b7135 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&w=780&s=e46d23ee523c96e5b0db3330b632a1422c325b17 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&w=580&s=f2938df98fa2ad7b1eb203b4380caebda33a3193 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&w=380&s=cb915d6aacba38bb8a292f5b733a6d0d9dc0bb96 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&w=200&s=a69137b937a1645ac7771c59cbd3cb0aa5ef0696 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&w=100&s=896ba3832e07d5d97a3dcfba1ef5801b0e0ea670 100w" style="aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1hlrz9z"><div class="teaser-label hyperion-css-52yh2p">A-MAGASINET<div class="timestamp friendly hyperion-css-10eh1jy" data-test-tag="timestamp"><span class="hyperion-css-ea91rp">Publisert:</span><div><time aria-label="2025-06-07T10:09:16Z" datetime="2025-06-07T10:09:16Z" itemprop="datePublished" pubdate="pubdate">7. juni</time></div></div></div><div class="opinion hyperion-css-1ucd1we"><h2 class="hyperion-css-1hyuqep">Hun eksperimenterte med dop og slåssing. Broren ble drapsmann og søsteren kokainsmugler.</h2></div></div></a></li><li class="hyperion-css-1lcs599"><a aria-label="Nevroforskeren sto ansikt til ansikt med døden – og hevder tre skikkelser ventet på han. Nå forsker han på om det finnes et liv etter døden." class="imagePosition-top medium feature-teaser hyperion-css-bvr9ut" data-test-tag="teaser-medium:link-internal" href="/psykisk-helse-og-psykologi/i/WvbJWr/den-siste-terskelen" rel="" target=""><div class="hyperion-css-bjn8wh"><div class="hyperion-css-1k8sl4j"><img alt="" class="image-asset hyperion-css-vihpv3" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="(min-width: 981px) 980px, 100vw" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=c3c3c4120edf68966a735676416fa989493c0e08" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=c3c3c4120edf68966a735676416fa989493c0e08 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&w=1440&s=26d211ce0100eb859e527f95238bbe536c2f80cc 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&w=1024&s=3ece3cb1d8c53eebb00ffef3f913718b759db048 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&w=980&s=1f7f86ae4e176c3c6501cdd1183965fec5be6b06 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&w=780&s=4d0c2630a34a0210d4337962b5b59d5b20c3f6f1 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&w=580&s=5d53d6d596c4ce3515f2f90d5a42b8a2a5a56c58 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&w=380&s=631d7d854fc79c838bbc9edf1d06cb9af91eebaa 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&w=200&s=47361ba7868a5d0823343bfae783583534fecf74 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&w=100&s=6b99415cfeb68954b17ed741b4aba79b849c6014 100w" style="aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1hlrz9z"><div class="teaser-label hyperion-css-52yh2p">PSYKISK HELSE OG PSYKOLOGI<div class="timestamp friendly hyperion-css-10eh1jy" data-test-tag="timestamp"><span class="hyperion-css-ea91rp">Publisert:</span><div><time aria-label="2025-12-27T07:00:11Z" datetime="2025-12-27T07:00:11Z" itemprop="datePublished" pubdate="pubdate">27. desember</time></div></div></div><div class="opinion hyperion-css-1ucd1we"><h2 class="hyperion-css-1hyuqep">Nevroforskeren sto ansikt til ansikt med døden – og hevder tre skikkelser ventet på han. Nå forsker han på om det finnes et liv etter døden.</h2></div></div></a></li></ol></div></div><div class="advertory-aftenposten-netboard-wrapper__article advertory-aftenposten-paywall-ad"><div class="advertory-aftenposten-netboard__article" id="paywall_ad_board"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1q3hux1"><button aria-label="Tilbake til forsiden" class="hyperion-css-1t4sy44" title="Tilbake til forsiden" type="button">Tilbake til forsiden</button></div></div><div></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1927kqg" id="superright-side"></div></div><footer class="hyperion-css-1ykq07t" role="contentinfo"><div class="container"><div class="links"><ul><li><a class="actionLink" href="https://www.aftenposten.no/tips">Tips oss</a></li><li><a class="actionLink" href="https://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/debatt/i/Ooyk/informasjon-om-debattinnlegg-og-kronikker-til-aftenposten">Send inn debattinnlegg</a></li><li><a class="actionLink" href="https://www.aftenposten.no/rettelser">Endringslogg</a></li><li><a class="actionLink" href="https://www.aftenposten.no/slik-jobber-vi-i-aftenposten">Slik jobber vi i Aftenposten</a></li></ul><ul><li><a class="actionLink" href="https://kundeservice.aftenposten.no/s/">Kundeservice</a></li><li><a class="actionLink" href="https://schibstedforbusiness.com/no/merkevarer/aftenposten/">Annonsere i Aftenposten</a></li><li><a class="actionLink" href="https://info.privacy.schibsted.com/no/schibsted-norge-personvernerklaering/">Personvernpolicy</a></li><li><a class="actionLink" href="https://info.privacy.schibsted.com/no/schibsted-norge-personvernerklaering/">Informasjonskapsler</a></li></ul><div class="logos"><div class="hyperion-css-15fvjg8" data-loaded="true"><noscript><img alt="aftenposten-logo" src="https://cdn.aftenposten.no/ap/images/footer/circular-ap-logo.png" width=""></noscript></div><a aria-label="Lenke til Redaktørplakaten etiske og juridiske rammeverk på Redaktor.no" class="hyperion-css-hkgcqn" href="https://www.redaktor.no/ressurser/etiske-og-juridiske-rammeverk/redaktorplakaten" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><noscript><img alt="Ansvarsmerket" src="https://cdn.aftenposten.no/ap/images/footer/ansvarsmerket.svg"></noscript></a></div></div><div class="info"><ul><li><span>Sjefredaktør og adm. direktør: </span><span class="name">Trine Eilertsen</span></li><li><span>Nyhetsredaktør: </span><span class="name">Tone Tveøy Strøm-Gundersen</span></li><li><span>Politisk redaktør: </span><span class="name">Kjetil B. 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200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=100&w=100&s=27d883be83813044b8c6defab4461cf425272c6d 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 2048\"></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-0\"><span class=\"byline-name hyperion-css-1cn5stf\" data-test-tag=\"byline:author-name\" data-testid=\"byline:author-name\">Asle Toje</span><div class=\"hyperion-css-lc8ynt\">Utenrikspolitisk forsker og kommentator</div></div></a></li></ul></div></div><figure class=\"image fullWidthDesktop top stretch-image-asset-on-mobile landscape hyperion-css-mochwu\" data-test-tag=\"image\"><img alt=\"En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege, svarer Asle Toje.\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-15sw6kl\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"high\" loading=\"eager\" sizes=\"(min-width: 380px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1365&w=2048&s=a0bcc5dcdb12826301c349f23e50500e156e5ea5\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1365&w=2048&s=a0bcc5dcdb12826301c349f23e50500e156e5ea5 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=960&w=1440&s=13e6e8653ef8f5ef4a66c2bfa7b7a001bcefe091 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=683&w=1024&s=3a9bb512e3ca5682ff5c732114d544558c13543e 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=653&w=980&s=7cd85e80e082c441e8b5e4ad2e037c370bc6a0cf 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=520&w=780&s=a4454af7df5258242429631735445fda52f33afa 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=387&w=580&s=fb1aa8caa0caeded7221ac48b59acdc5bbd2379a 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=253&w=380&s=ee9047c12c1529c4081992e0284b761806f3325f 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=133&w=200&s=e7f63cb3f6312eeeda128db4caf78bed4fee89de 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=67&w=100&s=4e5299ceb9ca601762fb785be25466a14e28f20d 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 1365\"><figcaption class=\"image-figcaption hyperion-css-1ksg4fz\" data-test-tag=\"image:caption\"><span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"image-caption\">En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege, svarer Asle Toje.</span><span class=\"image-byline hyperion-css-161dy2i\"> Foto: Dan P. Neegaard</span></figcaption></figure><p class=\"contentWidth hyperion-css-1mepuqa\" data-test-tag=\"lead-text\">Fastlege Mozzie Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet.</p><div class=\"paywall hyperion-css-h9wc15\" data-test-tag=\"timestamp\"><div><time aria-label=\"Publisert: 30.12.2025 10:29\" datetime=\"2025-12-30T09:29:59Z\" itemprop=\"datePublished\">Publisert: 30.12.2025 10:29</time></div></div><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">I et innlegg i Aftenposten beskriver fastlege Mozzie Marvati sitt liv og virke i Norge på en måte som fortjener respekt. Det er ingen motsetning mellom hans biografi og mitt anliggende.</p><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">Problemet oppstår først når han gjør sin egen historie til et motargument mot en analyse som aldri handlet om ham.</p><div class=\"hyperion-css-1ykv2lv\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-l9jsj3\"><p class=\"hyperion-css-1qm9e9t\">Du har nå lest dine gratis artikler denne uken. Bli abonnent for å lese videre.</p><button class=\"hyperion-css-1xvjrme\" type=\"button\">Allerede abonnent? Logg inn</button></div></div></article><div class=\"advertory-brandmetrics-survey\" id=\"brandmetrics-survey\"></div><div class=\"extendedContent paywall hyperion-css-177q39v\" id=\"widget-recirculation-matrix-most-sold\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-r57xc5\" data-test-tag=\"widget:title\">Les også</h2><div class=\"bundle extendedContent hyperion-css-cbecqi\"><ol class=\"hyperion-css-1700tdj\"><li class=\"hyperion-css-1lcs599\"><a aria-label=\"Hun eksperimenterte med dop og slåssing. Broren ble drapsmann og søsteren kokainsmugler.\" class=\"imagePosition-top medium magazine-teaser hyperion-css-bvr9ut\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-medium:link-internal\" href=\"/amagasinet/i/3MdXde/nikita-marie-rodriguez-ville-drepe-sin-egen-bror\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1k8sl4j\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-3atq9u\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"(min-width: 981px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=a70192d8908879167aed2d514a9102632a41d8b8\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=a70192d8908879167aed2d514a9102632a41d8b8 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&w=1440&s=f71fe4d70a458696964c94168f960065fc84c364 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&w=1024&s=953562d9bf8f3139366c3269150df7386b4dd77f 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&w=980&s=7b844a3e227f8371020ad01a2a3939cbe12b7135 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&w=780&s=e46d23ee523c96e5b0db3330b632a1422c325b17 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&w=580&s=f2938df98fa2ad7b1eb203b4380caebda33a3193 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&w=380&s=cb915d6aacba38bb8a292f5b733a6d0d9dc0bb96 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&w=200&s=a69137b937a1645ac7771c59cbd3cb0aa5ef0696 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6b479461-9a42-4a69-b7ef-67da45ad5c65?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&w=100&s=896ba3832e07d5d97a3dcfba1ef5801b0e0ea670 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"teaser-label hyperion-css-52yh2p\">A-MAGASINET<div class=\"timestamp friendly hyperion-css-10eh1jy\" data-test-tag=\"timestamp\"><span class=\"hyperion-css-ea91rp\">Publisert:</span><div><time aria-label=\"2025-06-07T10:09:16Z\" datetime=\"2025-06-07T10:09:16Z\" itemprop=\"datePublished\" pubdate=\"pubdate\">7. juni</time></div></div></div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1ucd1we\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-1hyuqep\">Hun eksperimenterte med dop og slåssing. Broren ble drapsmann og søsteren kokainsmugler.</h2></div></div></a></li><li class=\"hyperion-css-1lcs599\"><a aria-label=\"Nevroforskeren sto ansikt til ansikt med døden – og hevder tre skikkelser ventet på han. Nå forsker han på om det finnes et liv etter døden.\" class=\"imagePosition-top medium feature-teaser hyperion-css-bvr9ut\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-medium:link-internal\" href=\"/psykisk-helse-og-psykologi/i/WvbJWr/den-siste-terskelen\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1k8sl4j\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-vihpv3\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"(min-width: 981px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=c3c3c4120edf68966a735676416fa989493c0e08\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=c3c3c4120edf68966a735676416fa989493c0e08 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&w=1440&s=26d211ce0100eb859e527f95238bbe536c2f80cc 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&w=1024&s=3ece3cb1d8c53eebb00ffef3f913718b759db048 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&w=980&s=1f7f86ae4e176c3c6501cdd1183965fec5be6b06 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&w=780&s=4d0c2630a34a0210d4337962b5b59d5b20c3f6f1 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&w=580&s=5d53d6d596c4ce3515f2f90d5a42b8a2a5a56c58 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&w=380&s=631d7d854fc79c838bbc9edf1d06cb9af91eebaa 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&w=200&s=47361ba7868a5d0823343bfae783583534fecf74 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/467767da-e2b2-4e5d-a55b-b04c6b785f3a?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&w=100&s=6b99415cfeb68954b17ed741b4aba79b849c6014 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"teaser-label hyperion-css-52yh2p\">PSYKISK HELSE OG PSYKOLOGI<div class=\"timestamp friendly hyperion-css-10eh1jy\" data-test-tag=\"timestamp\"><span class=\"hyperion-css-ea91rp\">Publisert:</span><div><time aria-label=\"2025-12-27T07:00:11Z\" datetime=\"2025-12-27T07:00:11Z\" itemprop=\"datePublished\" pubdate=\"pubdate\">27. desember</time></div></div></div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1ucd1we\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-1hyuqep\">Nevroforskeren sto ansikt til ansikt med døden – og hevder tre skikkelser ventet på han. 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Det som skaper mistanke, er uklare forventninger, skriver Asle Toje.
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Fastlege Mozzie Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet.
I et innlegg i Aftenposten beskriver fastlege Mozzie Marvati sitt liv og virke i Norge på en måte som fortjener respekt. Det er ingen motsetning mellom hans biografi og mitt anliggende.
Problemet oppstår først når han gjør sin egen historie til et motargument mot en analyse som aldri handlet om ham.
Jeg har ikke hevdet at innvandrere flest mangler lojalitet, at enkeltpersoner ikke bidrar, eller at norskhet er en blodlinje. Tvert imot har jeg eksplisitt avvist slike forståelser. I et innlegg han refererer til.
Likevel er hele Marvatis tekst bygget på at jeg mener nettopp dette. Det er ikke en uenighet – det er å misforstå med vilje. Som ikke står ham til heder.
At Aftenposten refuserer innlegg som støtter meg og publiserer noe som dette, sier noe. Det er greit, jeg kan godt være den ene mot de mange.
Vilkår for et fungerende demokrati
At enkeltmennesker integreres godt, yter, forsvarer landet og lever fullt ut norske liv, sier lite om hvorvidt et samfunn som helhet lykkes med å opprettholde felles normer, språkkompetanse og institusjonell tillit over tid. Struktur kan ikke tilbakevises med biografi. En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege.
Når jeg skriver at «svært mange ikke er norske i kulturell forstand», sikter jeg ikke til innsatsvilje, moral eller menneskeverd, men til kjennskap til felles referanser, institusjoner og normer.
Dette er forutsetninger også majoriteten må vedlikeholde. Å påpeke dette er ikke å trekke opp en uoppnåelig terskel, men å beskrive et faktisk vilkår for et fungerende demokrati.
Allerede svakt
Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet. Det som skaper mistanke, er uklare forventninger og manglende begrepsavklaring.
Et fellesskap som ikke kan beskrives uten at noen føler seg personlig mistenkeliggjort, er allerede svakt.
Et fellesskap som ikke kan beskrives uten at noen føler seg personlig mistenkeliggjort, er allerede svakt
Norge er hverken bare en idé eller bare institusjoner. Det er også et historisk og sosialt fellesskap som må bæres, læres og fornyes. Å si dette er ikke ekskluderende. Det er ansvarlig.
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"content" : "# Selvgratulerende skivebom\n\n- [Asle TojeUtenrikspolitisk forsker og kommentator](http://aftenposten.no/av/asle-toje-5)\n\nFastlege Mozzie Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet.\n\n[I et innlegg i Aftenposten beskriver fastlege Mozzie Marvati ](/meninger/debatt/i/43q0RV/mozzie-marvati-jeg-er-sivilisasjonskollapsen-asle-toje-advarer-om)sitt liv og virke i Norge på en måte som fortjener respekt. Det er ingen motsetning mellom hans biografi og mitt anliggende.\n\nProblemet oppstår først når han gjør sin egen historie til et motargument mot en analyse som aldri handlet om ham.\n\nJeg har ikke hevdet at innvandrere flest mangler lojalitet, at enkeltpersoner ikke bidrar, eller at norskhet er en blodlinje. Tvert imot har jeg eksplisitt avvist slike forståelser. [I et innlegg han refererer til](/meninger/debatt/i/WvbJrd/hva-er-det-vaare-ungdommer-skal-kjempe-for).\n\nLikevel er hele Marvatis tekst bygget på at jeg mener nettopp dette. Det er ikke en uenighet – det er å misforstå med vilje. Som ikke står ham til heder.\n\nAt Aftenposten refuserer innlegg som støtter meg og publiserer noe som dette, sier noe. Det er greit, jeg kan godt være den ene mot de mange.\n\n## Vilkår for et fungerende demokrati\n\nAt enkeltmennesker integreres godt, yter, forsvarer landet og lever fullt ut norske liv, sier lite om hvorvidt et samfunn som helhet lykkes med å opprettholde felles normer, språkkompetanse og institusjonell tillit over tid. Struktur kan ikke tilbakevises med biografi. En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege.\n\nNår jeg skriver at «[svært mange ikke er norske i kulturell forstand](/meninger/debatt/i/8pmm5G/asle-toje-vil-norge-overleve-det-som-kommer)», sikter jeg ikke til innsatsvilje, moral eller menneskeverd, men til kjennskap til felles referanser, institusjoner og normer.\n\nDette er forutsetninger også majoriteten må vedlikeholde. Å påpeke dette er ikke å trekke opp en uoppnåelig terskel, men å beskrive et faktisk vilkår for et fungerende demokrati.\n\n## Allerede svakt\n\nMarvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet. Det som skaper mistanke, er uklare forventninger og manglende begrepsavklaring.\n\nEt fellesskap som ikke kan beskrives uten at noen føler seg personlig mistenkeliggjort, er allerede svakt.\n\n> Et fellesskap som ikke kan beskrives uten at noen føler seg personlig mistenkeliggjort, er allerede svakt\n\nNorge er hverken bare en idé eller bare institusjoner. Det er også et historisk og sosialt fellesskap som må bæres, læres og fornyes. Å si dette er ikke ekskluderende. Det er ansvarlig.\n\n## Flere bidrag i denne debatten:",
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class="hyperion-css-semo9s"><a aria-label="Samfunnet" class="hyperion-css-1raymq9" data-test-tag="internal-link" href="/tag/samfunnet" rel="" target="" theme="opinion">Samfunnet</a></div></div><h1 class="extendedContent h1 hyperion-css-j2lk82" data-test-tag="headline">Selvgratulerende skivebom</h1><div class="extendedContent hyperion-css-cgw1f6"><div class="hyperion-css-io3370" data-test-tag="byline" data-testid="byline"><ul class="hyperion-css-1772xtw" data-test-tag="byline:authors" data-testid="byline:authors"><li class="hyperion-css-b8p8ys"><a aria-label="Se journalistens profil: Asle Toje" class="hyperion-css-1x0qoq7" href="http://aftenposten.no/av/asle-toje-5" title="Se journalistens profil: Asle Toje"><div class="hyperion-css-y7i40o"><img alt="Asle Toje" class="image-asset hyperion-css-u06ts1" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" sizes="(min-width: 981px) 980px, 100vw" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=2048&w=2048&s=f7fd0a3c70d1333a1833c16f55d9a9d2578fa678" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=2048&w=2048&s=f7fd0a3c70d1333a1833c16f55d9a9d2578fa678 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&w=1440&s=e0dda881856225e0b567f6f433d568357839c43f 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1024&w=1024&s=4f21cc6f62967dad9089f94ae72c8d130f34552b 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=980&w=980&s=07930049779021b8f686961d409a95193f4c464a 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=780&w=780&s=c02ac1ea8a33f352052273775765d83f1b3429a9 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=580&w=580&s=9c1e0f8b8f79c041350fa9bd5798e28ede5f08ff 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=380&w=380&s=41abffb40d1f1fc7ae1091e6c8d41083605da8bf 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=200&w=200&s=123dd9333f6133e407c80072658e6e4b4bf8d051 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=100&w=100&s=27d883be83813044b8c6defab4461cf425272c6d 100w" style="aspect-ratio:2048 / 2048"></div><div class="hyperion-css-0"><span class="byline-name hyperion-css-1cn5stf" data-test-tag="byline:author-name" data-testid="byline:author-name">Asle Toje</span><div class="hyperion-css-lc8ynt">Utenrikspolitisk forsker og kommentator</div></div></a></li></ul></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-ytalhi"><div class="hyperion-css-upuxee"><div class="contentWidth hyperion-css-eemj7d"><div class="hyperion-css-152x5og"><div class="hyperion-css-1xdhyk6"></div></div></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-6kzd76"></div></div><figure class="image fullWidthDesktop top stretch-image-asset-on-mobile landscape hyperion-css-mochwu" data-test-tag="image"><img alt="En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege, svarer Asle Toje." class="image-asset hyperion-css-15sw6kl" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="high" loading="eager" sizes="(min-width: 380px) 980px, 100vw" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1365&w=2048&s=a0bcc5dcdb12826301c349f23e50500e156e5ea5" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1365&w=2048&s=a0bcc5dcdb12826301c349f23e50500e156e5ea5 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=960&w=1440&s=13e6e8653ef8f5ef4a66c2bfa7b7a001bcefe091 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=683&w=1024&s=3a9bb512e3ca5682ff5c732114d544558c13543e 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=653&w=980&s=7cd85e80e082c441e8b5e4ad2e037c370bc6a0cf 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=520&w=780&s=a4454af7df5258242429631735445fda52f33afa 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=387&w=580&s=fb1aa8caa0caeded7221ac48b59acdc5bbd2379a 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=253&w=380&s=ee9047c12c1529c4081992e0284b761806f3325f 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=133&w=200&s=e7f63cb3f6312eeeda128db4caf78bed4fee89de 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=67&w=100&s=4e5299ceb9ca601762fb785be25466a14e28f20d 100w" style="aspect-ratio:2048 / 1365"><figcaption class="image-figcaption hyperion-css-1ksg4fz" data-test-tag="image:caption"><span aria-hidden="true" class="image-caption">En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege, svarer Asle Toje.</span><span class="image-byline hyperion-css-161dy2i"> Foto: Dan P. Neegaard</span></figcaption></figure><p class="contentWidth hyperion-css-1mepuqa" data-test-tag="lead-text">Fastlege Mozzie Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet.</p><div class="paywall hyperion-css-h9wc15" data-test-tag="timestamp"><div><time aria-label="Publisert: 30.12.2025 10:29" datetime="2025-12-30T09:29:59Z" itemprop="datePublished">Publisert: 30.12.2025 10:29</time></div></div><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic"><a aria-label="I et innlegg i Aftenposten beskriver fastlege Mozzie Marvati " class="hyperion-css-1raymq9" data-test-tag="internal-link" href="/meninger/debatt/i/43q0RV/mozzie-marvati-jeg-er-sivilisasjonskollapsen-asle-toje-advarer-om" rel="" target="" theme="opinion">I et innlegg i Aftenposten beskriver fastlege Mozzie Marvati </a>sitt liv og virke i Norge på en måte som fortjener respekt. Det er ingen motsetning mellom hans biografi og mitt anliggende.</p><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">Problemet oppstår først når han gjør sin egen historie til et motargument mot en analyse som aldri handlet om ham.</p><div class="advertory-aftenposten-netboard-wrapper__article "><div class="advertory-aftenposten-netboard__article" id="netboard_1"></div></div><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">Jeg har ikke hevdet at innvandrere flest mangler lojalitet, at enkeltpersoner ikke bidrar, eller at norskhet er en blodlinje. Tvert imot har jeg eksplisitt avvist slike forståelser. <a aria-label="I et innlegg han refererer til" class="hyperion-css-1raymq9" data-test-tag="internal-link" href="/meninger/debatt/i/WvbJrd/hva-er-det-vaare-ungdommer-skal-kjempe-for" rel="" target="" theme="opinion">I et innlegg han refererer til</a>.</p><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">Likevel er hele Marvatis tekst bygget på at jeg mener nettopp dette. Det er ikke en uenighet – det er å misforstå med vilje. Som ikke står ham til heder.</p><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">At Aftenposten refuserer innlegg som støtter meg og publiserer noe som dette, sier noe. Det er greit, jeg kan godt være den ene mot de mange.</p><h2 class="paywall hyperion-css-npxxyf" data-test-tag="paragraph-header">Vilkår for et fungerende demokrati</h2><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">At enkeltmennesker integreres godt, yter, forsvarer landet og lever fullt ut norske liv, sier lite om hvorvidt et samfunn som helhet lykkes med å opprettholde felles normer, språkkompetanse og institusjonell tillit over tid. Struktur kan ikke tilbakevises med biografi. En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege.</p><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">Når jeg skriver at «<a aria-label="svært mange ikke er norske i kulturell forstand" class="hyperion-css-1raymq9" data-test-tag="internal-link" href="/meninger/debatt/i/8pmm5G/asle-toje-vil-norge-overleve-det-som-kommer" rel="" target="" theme="opinion">svært mange ikke er norske i kulturell forstand</a>», sikter jeg ikke til innsatsvilje, moral eller menneskeverd, men til kjennskap til felles referanser, institusjoner og normer.</p><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">Dette er forutsetninger også majoriteten må vedlikeholde. Å påpeke dette er ikke å trekke opp en uoppnåelig terskel, men å beskrive et faktisk vilkår for et fungerende demokrati.</p><h2 class="paywall hyperion-css-npxxyf" data-test-tag="paragraph-header">Allerede svakt</h2><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet. Det som skaper mistanke, er uklare forventninger og manglende begrepsavklaring.</p><div class="advertory-aftenposten-netboard-wrapper__article "><div class="advertory-aftenposten-netboard__article" id="brandboard"></div></div><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">Et fellesskap som ikke kan beskrives uten at noen føler seg personlig mistenkeliggjort, er allerede svakt.</p><div class="opinion extendedContent paywall hyperion-css-15ic3dq"><blockquote class="hyperion-css-qsvb07" data-test-tag="blockquote">Et fellesskap som ikke kan beskrives uten at noen føler seg personlig mistenkeliggjort, er allerede svakt</blockquote></div><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">Norge er hverken bare en idé eller bare institusjoner. Det er også et historisk og sosialt fellesskap som må bæres, læres og fornyes. Å si dette er ikke ekskluderende. Det er ansvarlig.</p><h2 class="paywall hyperion-css-npxxyf" data-test-tag="paragraph-header">Flere bidrag i denne debatten:</h2></article><div class="paywall hyperion-css-10ge17e" id="widget-recirculation-matrix-inline"><div class="bundle hyperion-css-6nuwex"><ol class="hyperion-css-1700tdj"><li class="hyperion-css-1sdqocr"><a aria-label="Asle Toje: Vil Norge overleve det som kommer? " class="imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2" data-test-tag="teaser-small:link-internal" href="/meninger/debatt/i/8pmm5G/asle-toje-vil-norge-overleve-det-som-kommer" rel="" target=""><div class="hyperion-css-bjn8wh"><div class="hyperion-css-1gd6fuo"><img alt="" class="image-asset hyperion-css-tsqfh8" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="106px" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=2d059ec1eff70dc8a7bc06346144c01d075fffad" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=2d059ec1eff70dc8a7bc06346144c01d075fffad 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=2e27daff6ab051ed7b47c7a9ca2f786391601baf 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=b9a748f74c4b1f0d76aa5e56dd06aad39b4b1580 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=fe4e8245693f32d90097f04c14de966e7d1bd90a 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=7462d6240ef59bd30d128aedf1f6e1a0f2addcc9 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=8f3caccacd1b94eec9c4cb70e79f420baf4c2267 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=cd9da13696ff2a7ab5e78b62090f3bdf8f702b59 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=a1e1355cd3cbc414f50875fe4fc506e9e1bf8395 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=42cd3c7ccb6068e3254a9d7721bbfd482995f236 100w" style="aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1hlrz9z"><div class="hyperion-css-djqnd">Les også</div><div class="opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia"><h2 class="hyperion-css-b9tnbt">Asle Toje: Vil Norge overleve det som kommer? </h2></div></div></a></li><li class="hyperion-css-1sdqocr"><a aria-label="Mustafa Can: Asle Tojes lojalitetslaboratorium" class="imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2" data-test-tag="teaser-small:link-internal" href="/meninger/kronikk/i/3pJpnd/asle-tojes-lojalitetslaboratorium" rel="" target=""><div class="hyperion-css-bjn8wh"><div class="hyperion-css-1gd6fuo"><img alt="" class="image-asset hyperion-css-1okcitd" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="106px" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=3662a42829e7b5aa6681b26be3acaeb54f8eb89d" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=3662a42829e7b5aa6681b26be3acaeb54f8eb89d 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=7056b5de99e41f0dc883c2eeb76dc627930f0600 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=1981f5c3fce43f20eb36fa0722c614711dcd8a8f 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=7c35a60773c6671a9ebcf1f665f590005844a33a 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=171169c18dd9da18f987d210391acb9d24951b74 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=8903471c91d4b53d94cb7d54c0e46b07affc16e9 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=159d9966fb30e1402882e0de7544f6b8a2997c84 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=f78ccb3d94e448e846413b54384509d79524e6bc 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=128e80ac952b76555d0a5943599db1c8719106f7 100w" style="aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1hlrz9z"><div class="hyperion-css-djqnd">Les også</div><div class="opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia"><h2 class="hyperion-css-b9tnbt">Mustafa Can: Asle Tojes lojalitetslaboratorium</h2></div></div></a></li><li class="hyperion-css-1sdqocr"><a aria-label="Asle Toje: Hva er det våre ungdommer skal kjempe for?" class="imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2" data-test-tag="teaser-small:link-internal" href="/meninger/debatt/i/WvbJrd/hva-er-det-vaare-ungdommer-skal-kjempe-for" rel="" target=""><div class="hyperion-css-bjn8wh"><div class="hyperion-css-1gd6fuo"><img alt="" class="image-asset hyperion-css-16f8sqc" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="106px" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=70e83b9abe569c9b5ed99e184c68a375a50e511a" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=70e83b9abe569c9b5ed99e184c68a375a50e511a 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=67b5c181d60131115f5aa2ee71a72bf244f00e6b 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=62e284e8b0f6c604c843a70f2e79efa0e7e97517 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=bfc585a36a8784184a3ac1537878d70b90f077d6 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=0a90ecd3f096e18a70bb74c4ca9648cad758ab58 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=4f0e3c0fe3c378040507a371445d51adadc94bda 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=6442f252bd6dfc2aa79621d416e13cccf77de48c 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=9f7b49fe46404a9522d8fb829f146150eae28deb 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=c926fb4c9769854827d89887af3d8e0b7338a26d 100w" style="aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1hlrz9z"><div class="hyperion-css-djqnd">Les også</div><div class="opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia"><h2 class="hyperion-css-b9tnbt">Asle Toje: Hva er det våre ungdommer skal kjempe for?</h2></div></div></a></li><li class="hyperion-css-1sdqocr"><a aria-label="Mozzie Marvati: Jeg er sivilisasjonskollapsen Asle Toje advarer om" class="imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2" data-test-tag="teaser-small:link-internal" href="/meninger/debatt/i/43q0RV/mozzie-marvati-jeg-er-sivilisasjonskollapsen-asle-toje-advarer-om" rel="" target=""><div class="hyperion-css-bjn8wh"><div class="hyperion-css-1gd6fuo"><img alt="" class="image-asset hyperion-css-19ve8al" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="106px" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&tight=true&w=1920&s=e5defd8b8db326310b195ff75bf6bcbcb708e7be" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&tight=true&w=1920&s=e5defd8b8db326310b195ff75bf6bcbcb708e7be 1920w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=6b72c82500280a7d8ded6841e0cde549ee2c3907 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=046f750acba126f8e111a343f5191904b743d258 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=735fc01983e2b8539c7ba89e7723bbc76736723f 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=a7d3ed8958a12094c8abfd77c95542284e966ab8 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=f450e9b0ca55b8f74a2c6b8892920b4274f43c67 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=0625351ea17176246fdc7b3deeb4a8820bf8cc2a 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=caa5998389a67251bfbfd94ae1c9f21d08d4b833 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=376de335b62095ef5866fd48819cbb171b6899d3 100w" style="aspect-ratio:1920 / 1440"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1hlrz9z"><div class="hyperion-css-djqnd">Les også</div><div class="opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia"><h2 class="hyperion-css-b9tnbt">Mozzie Marvati: Jeg er sivilisasjonskollapsen Asle Toje advarer om</h2></div></div></a></li><li class="hyperion-css-1sdqocr"><a aria-label="Hilde Sandvik: Ti spørsmål til Asle Toje" class="imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2" data-test-tag="teaser-small:link-internal" href="/meninger/debatt/i/e78XvO/ti-spoersmaal-til-asle-toje" rel="" target=""><div class="hyperion-css-bjn8wh"><div class="hyperion-css-1gd6fuo"><img alt="" class="image-asset hyperion-css-1m3irxy" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="106px" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=749&tight=true&w=998&s=7de02202976b37f7b7060756fdcb0e717a382c4e" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=749&tight=true&w=998&s=7de02202976b37f7b7060756fdcb0e717a382c4e 998w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=780c975e70ad6a971059867a46ac1020f8bc6e14 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=53ae4898408b2fab56144d226d5c97e1153725f5 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=26a6eec1157c0d5e46981e03e80e815318fde66e 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=7b66fffacac23b01822e988ef214f7e8de3639af 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=1886147d195721d329379a4419c372940ba8befa 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=21beb1cc2adc63f403103999c7ea87d5b5192889 100w" style="aspect-ratio:998 / 749"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1hlrz9z"><div class="hyperion-css-djqnd">Les også</div><div class="opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia"><h2 class="hyperion-css-b9tnbt">Hilde Sandvik: Ti spørsmål til Asle Toje</h2></div></div></a></li><li class="hyperion-css-1sdqocr"><a aria-label="Bengt Andersen: «Det usynlige stoffet», som Asle Toje skriver om, virker å ha reell betydning" class="imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2" data-test-tag="teaser-small:link-internal" href="/meninger/debatt/i/2pGXRq/det-usynlige-stoffet-som-asle-toje-skriver-om-virker-aa-ha-reell-betydning" rel="" target=""><div class="hyperion-css-bjn8wh"><div class="hyperion-css-1gd6fuo"><img alt="" class="image-asset hyperion-css-1vrsc0j" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="106px" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=0e29d13cc78191aa28de7c1a8518bad8c579c4f9" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=0e29d13cc78191aa28de7c1a8518bad8c579c4f9 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=ea996a9067cc8cef9510e48ca7fc68060769da0f 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=c3b4e6553f1eb9a70f0ee8ff680cb1f4d5efdaba 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=162c237be112b02f57b755b93f12d8581f848547 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=248bc3b074135e67a1820a98304ed54c28887fae 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=dfb383cd7311ce8add11edfb2a7cf02d52305514 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=6305977742b5c5b92b9d225ccefb4bfa50cc2ff3 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=9ed8199a0aecfb974d3e51558d149ff81f74ed23 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=a412bc09b1c92b25c1cbe716f00eb268a3ac4b07 100w" style="aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1hlrz9z"><div class="hyperion-css-djqnd">Les også</div><div class="opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia"><h2 class="hyperion-css-b9tnbt">Bengt Andersen: «Det usynlige stoffet», som Asle Toje skriver om, virker å ha reell betydning</h2></div></div></a></li></ol></div></div><div class="advertory-brandmetrics-survey" id="brandmetrics-survey"></div><div class="hyperion-css-1lkfsxc"><button aria-label="Vis kommentarer" class="hyperion-css-1q6qqhb" title="Vis kommentarer" type="button"> <!-- -->Vis<!-- --> <!-- -->kommentarer</button></div><div class="hyperion-css-1yxx8oe"><div 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class="image-asset hyperion-css-185p2iv" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="(min-width: 981px) 980px, 100vw" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&w=1920&s=b4662b90fa167d80f9986b6f2e9e3104ca7834a9" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&w=1920&s=b4662b90fa167d80f9986b6f2e9e3104ca7834a9 1920w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&w=1440&s=a421f9cb046179b7e1f2062cd3584ee35fdda14c 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&w=1024&s=19b949b5a1443b82a1bdbb89692863f2c25b22d6 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&w=980&s=006150b185d445af145ab3f123e534c8091c70bb 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&w=780&s=3ef54957c0e68bd65800857fcbe5e2d32c4f6cc9 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&w=580&s=757a1b9c1d451ba427987b6e7e1929024830ea00 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&w=380&s=c9c78b75118905aae3eff5987d7fe5ea8813f1a8 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&w=200&s=5bcf3f02f8e552614c21191ab71165eb49163e96 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&w=100&s=9b6dc048d21fe3cdfe13d79333d0520d24608025 100w" style="aspect-ratio:1920 / 1440"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1hlrz9z"><div class="teaser-label hyperion-css-52yh2p">DEBATT<div class="timestamp friendly hyperion-css-10eh1jy" data-test-tag="timestamp"><span class="hyperion-css-ea91rp">Publisert:</span><div><time aria-label="2025-12-29T14:00:42Z" datetime="2025-12-29T14:00:42Z" itemprop="datePublished" pubdate="pubdate">I går 15:00</time></div></div></div><div class="opinion hyperion-css-1ucd1we"><h2 class="hyperion-css-1hyuqep">Ifølge Asle Tojes logikk er jeg et symptom på Norges forfall</h2></div></div></a></li><li class="hyperion-css-1lcs599"><a aria-label="Hva er det våre ungdommer skal kjempe for?" class="imagePosition-top medium opinion-teaser hyperion-css-bvr9ut" data-test-tag="teaser-medium:link-internal" href="/meninger/debatt/i/WvbJrd/hva-er-det-vaare-ungdommer-skal-kjempe-for" rel="" target=""><div class="hyperion-css-bjn8wh"><div class="hyperion-css-1k8sl4j"><img alt="" class="image-asset hyperion-css-1099xn" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="(min-width: 981px) 980px, 100vw" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=0346cc3da9e168fc04503fef9d4c1595572c5af8" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=0346cc3da9e168fc04503fef9d4c1595572c5af8 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&w=1440&s=654122b3a745081e439b5bc7c33594b600b93810 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&w=1024&s=410bd58c27281cf550819767d342bf1b6815558c 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&w=980&s=b7816fb4427e24c7c05be368b97cfb768fc75015 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&w=780&s=352829fb19795da8689639e46f0890e21165f535 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&w=580&s=07395e8894aea57d10c6182dcf55ff136baddf96 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&w=380&s=1693b698020fb4c276c933d36e8bae6d5ae4d698 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&w=200&s=4de205f65abdc7fbe756b716aadc00dc78cf40d7 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&w=100&s=a56a657329b91b617325da708303233abdda79fc 100w" style="aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1hlrz9z"><div class="teaser-label hyperion-css-52yh2p">DEBATT<div class="timestamp friendly hyperion-css-10eh1jy" data-test-tag="timestamp"><span class="hyperion-css-ea91rp">Publisert:</span><div><time aria-label="2025-12-27T16:27:26Z" datetime="2025-12-27T16:27:26Z" itemprop="datePublished" pubdate="pubdate">27. desember</time></div></div></div><div class="opinion hyperion-css-1ucd1we"><h2 class="hyperion-css-1hyuqep">Hva er det våre ungdommer skal kjempe for?</h2></div></div></a></li><li class="hyperion-css-1lcs599"><div class="advertory-aftenposten-netboard-wrapper "><div class="advertory-aftenposten-netboard" id="netboard_recirc"></div></div></li><li class="hyperion-css-1lcs599"><a aria-label="Problemet med antisemittisme er størst blant de nye aktivistene" class="imagePosition-top medium opinion-teaser hyperion-css-bvr9ut" data-test-tag="teaser-medium:link-internal" href="/meninger/debatt/i/JO1mAR/de-nye-aktivistene" rel="" target=""><div class="hyperion-css-bjn8wh"><div class="hyperion-css-1k8sl4j"><img alt="" class="image-asset hyperion-css-jj0wlk" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="(min-width: 981px) 980px, 100vw" 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"content" : "# Selvgratulerende skivebom\n\n- [Asle TojeUtenrikspolitisk forsker og kommentator](http://aftenposten.no/av/asle-toje-5)\n\nFastlege Mozzie Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet.\n\n[I et innlegg i Aftenposten beskriver fastlege Mozzie Marvati ](/meninger/debatt/i/43q0RV/mozzie-marvati-jeg-er-sivilisasjonskollapsen-asle-toje-advarer-om)sitt liv og virke i Norge på en måte som fortjener respekt. Det er ingen motsetning mellom hans biografi og mitt anliggende.\n\nProblemet oppstår først når han gjør sin egen historie til et motargument mot en analyse som aldri handlet om ham.\n\nJeg har ikke hevdet at innvandrere flest mangler lojalitet, at enkeltpersoner ikke bidrar, eller at norskhet er en blodlinje. Tvert imot har jeg eksplisitt avvist slike forståelser. [I et innlegg han refererer til](/meninger/debatt/i/WvbJrd/hva-er-det-vaare-ungdommer-skal-kjempe-for).\n\nLikevel er hele Marvatis tekst bygget på at jeg mener nettopp dette. Det er ikke en uenighet – det er å misforstå med vilje. Som ikke står ham til heder.\n\nAt Aftenposten refuserer innlegg som støtter meg og publiserer noe som dette, sier noe. Det er greit, jeg kan godt være den ene mot de mange.\n\n## Vilkår for et fungerende demokrati\n\nAt enkeltmennesker integreres godt, yter, forsvarer landet og lever fullt ut norske liv, sier lite om hvorvidt et samfunn som helhet lykkes med å opprettholde felles normer, språkkompetanse og institusjonell tillit over tid. Struktur kan ikke tilbakevises med biografi. En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege.\n\nNår jeg skriver at «[svært mange ikke er norske i kulturell forstand](/meninger/debatt/i/8pmm5G/asle-toje-vil-norge-overleve-det-som-kommer)», sikter jeg ikke til innsatsvilje, moral eller menneskeverd, men til kjennskap til felles referanser, institusjoner og normer.\n\nDette er forutsetninger også majoriteten må vedlikeholde. Å påpeke dette er ikke å trekke opp en uoppnåelig terskel, men å beskrive et faktisk vilkår for et fungerende demokrati.\n\n## Allerede svakt\n\nMarvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet. Det som skaper mistanke, er uklare forventninger og manglende begrepsavklaring.\n\nEt fellesskap som ikke kan beskrives uten at noen føler seg personlig mistenkeliggjort, er allerede svakt.\n\n> Et fellesskap som ikke kan beskrives uten at noen føler seg personlig mistenkeliggjort, er allerede svakt\n\nNorge er hverken bare en idé eller bare institusjoner. Det er også et historisk og sosialt fellesskap som må bæres, læres og fornyes. Å si dette er ikke ekskluderende. Det er ansvarlig.\n\n## Flere bidrag i denne debatten:",
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380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=200&w=200&s=123dd9333f6133e407c80072658e6e4b4bf8d051 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=100&w=100&s=27d883be83813044b8c6defab4461cf425272c6d 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 2048\"></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-0\"><span class=\"byline-name hyperion-css-1cn5stf\" data-test-tag=\"byline:author-name\" data-testid=\"byline:author-name\">Asle Toje</span><div class=\"hyperion-css-lc8ynt\">Utenrikspolitisk forsker og kommentator</div></div></a></li></ul></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-ytalhi\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-upuxee\"><div class=\"contentWidth hyperion-css-eemj7d\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-152x5og\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1xdhyk6\"></div></div></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-6kzd76\"></div></div><figure class=\"image fullWidthDesktop top stretch-image-asset-on-mobile landscape hyperion-css-mochwu\" data-test-tag=\"image\"><img alt=\"En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege, svarer Asle Toje.\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-15sw6kl\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"high\" loading=\"eager\" sizes=\"(min-width: 380px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1365&w=2048&s=a0bcc5dcdb12826301c349f23e50500e156e5ea5\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1365&w=2048&s=a0bcc5dcdb12826301c349f23e50500e156e5ea5 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=960&w=1440&s=13e6e8653ef8f5ef4a66c2bfa7b7a001bcefe091 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=683&w=1024&s=3a9bb512e3ca5682ff5c732114d544558c13543e 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=653&w=980&s=7cd85e80e082c441e8b5e4ad2e037c370bc6a0cf 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=520&w=780&s=a4454af7df5258242429631735445fda52f33afa 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=387&w=580&s=fb1aa8caa0caeded7221ac48b59acdc5bbd2379a 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=253&w=380&s=ee9047c12c1529c4081992e0284b761806f3325f 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=133&w=200&s=e7f63cb3f6312eeeda128db4caf78bed4fee89de 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=67&w=100&s=4e5299ceb9ca601762fb785be25466a14e28f20d 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 1365\"><figcaption class=\"image-figcaption hyperion-css-1ksg4fz\" data-test-tag=\"image:caption\"><span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"image-caption\">En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege, svarer Asle Toje.</span><span class=\"image-byline hyperion-css-161dy2i\"> Foto: Dan P. Neegaard</span></figcaption></figure><p class=\"contentWidth hyperion-css-1mepuqa\" data-test-tag=\"lead-text\">Fastlege Mozzie Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet.</p><div class=\"paywall hyperion-css-h9wc15\" data-test-tag=\"timestamp\"><div><time aria-label=\"Publisert: 30.12.2025 10:29\" datetime=\"2025-12-30T09:29:59Z\" itemprop=\"datePublished\">Publisert: 30.12.2025 10:29</time></div></div><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\"><a aria-label=\"I et innlegg i Aftenposten beskriver fastlege Mozzie Marvati \" class=\"hyperion-css-1raymq9\" data-test-tag=\"internal-link\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/43q0RV/mozzie-marvati-jeg-er-sivilisasjonskollapsen-asle-toje-advarer-om\" rel=\"\" target=\"\" theme=\"opinion\">I et innlegg i Aftenposten beskriver fastlege Mozzie Marvati </a>sitt liv og virke i Norge på en måte som fortjener respekt. Det er ingen motsetning mellom hans biografi og mitt anliggende.</p><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">Problemet oppstår først når han gjør sin egen historie til et motargument mot en analyse som aldri handlet om ham.</p><div class=\"advertory-aftenposten-netboard-wrapper__article \"><div class=\"advertory-aftenposten-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_1\"></div></div><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">Jeg har ikke hevdet at innvandrere flest mangler lojalitet, at enkeltpersoner ikke bidrar, eller at norskhet er en blodlinje. Tvert imot har jeg eksplisitt avvist slike forståelser. <a aria-label=\"I et innlegg han refererer til\" class=\"hyperion-css-1raymq9\" data-test-tag=\"internal-link\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/WvbJrd/hva-er-det-vaare-ungdommer-skal-kjempe-for\" rel=\"\" target=\"\" theme=\"opinion\">I et innlegg han refererer til</a>.</p><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">Likevel er hele Marvatis tekst bygget på at jeg mener nettopp dette. Det er ikke en uenighet – det er å misforstå med vilje. Som ikke står ham til heder.</p><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">At Aftenposten refuserer innlegg som støtter meg og publiserer noe som dette, sier noe. Det er greit, jeg kan godt være den ene mot de mange.</p><h2 class=\"paywall hyperion-css-npxxyf\" data-test-tag=\"paragraph-header\">Vilkår for et fungerende demokrati</h2><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">At enkeltmennesker integreres godt, yter, forsvarer landet og lever fullt ut norske liv, sier lite om hvorvidt et samfunn som helhet lykkes med å opprettholde felles normer, språkkompetanse og institusjonell tillit over tid. Struktur kan ikke tilbakevises med biografi. En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege.</p><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">Når jeg skriver at «<a aria-label=\"svært mange ikke er norske i kulturell forstand\" class=\"hyperion-css-1raymq9\" data-test-tag=\"internal-link\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/8pmm5G/asle-toje-vil-norge-overleve-det-som-kommer\" rel=\"\" target=\"\" theme=\"opinion\">svært mange ikke er norske i kulturell forstand</a>», sikter jeg ikke til innsatsvilje, moral eller menneskeverd, men til kjennskap til felles referanser, institusjoner og normer.</p><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">Dette er forutsetninger også majoriteten må vedlikeholde. Å påpeke dette er ikke å trekke opp en uoppnåelig terskel, men å beskrive et faktisk vilkår for et fungerende demokrati.</p><h2 class=\"paywall hyperion-css-npxxyf\" data-test-tag=\"paragraph-header\">Allerede svakt</h2><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet. Det som skaper mistanke, er uklare forventninger og manglende begrepsavklaring.</p><div class=\"advertory-aftenposten-netboard-wrapper__article \"><div class=\"advertory-aftenposten-netboard__article\" id=\"brandboard\"></div></div><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">Et fellesskap som ikke kan beskrives uten at noen føler seg personlig mistenkeliggjort, er allerede svakt.</p><div class=\"opinion extendedContent paywall hyperion-css-15ic3dq\"><blockquote class=\"hyperion-css-qsvb07\" data-test-tag=\"blockquote\">Et fellesskap som ikke kan beskrives uten at noen føler seg personlig mistenkeliggjort, er allerede svakt</blockquote></div><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">Norge er hverken bare en idé eller bare institusjoner. Det er også et historisk og sosialt fellesskap som må bæres, læres og fornyes. Å si dette er ikke ekskluderende. Det er ansvarlig.</p><h2 class=\"paywall hyperion-css-npxxyf\" data-test-tag=\"paragraph-header\">Flere bidrag i denne debatten:</h2></article><div class=\"paywall hyperion-css-10ge17e\" id=\"widget-recirculation-matrix-inline\"><div class=\"bundle hyperion-css-6nuwex\"><ol class=\"hyperion-css-1700tdj\"><li class=\"hyperion-css-1sdqocr\"><a aria-label=\"Asle Toje: Vil Norge overleve det som kommer? \" class=\"imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-small:link-internal\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/8pmm5G/asle-toje-vil-norge-overleve-det-som-kommer\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1gd6fuo\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-tsqfh8\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"106px\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=2d059ec1eff70dc8a7bc06346144c01d075fffad\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=2d059ec1eff70dc8a7bc06346144c01d075fffad 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=2e27daff6ab051ed7b47c7a9ca2f786391601baf 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=b9a748f74c4b1f0d76aa5e56dd06aad39b4b1580 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=fe4e8245693f32d90097f04c14de966e7d1bd90a 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=7462d6240ef59bd30d128aedf1f6e1a0f2addcc9 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=8f3caccacd1b94eec9c4cb70e79f420baf4c2267 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=cd9da13696ff2a7ab5e78b62090f3bdf8f702b59 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=a1e1355cd3cbc414f50875fe4fc506e9e1bf8395 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=42cd3c7ccb6068e3254a9d7721bbfd482995f236 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-djqnd\">Les også</div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-b9tnbt\">Asle Toje: Vil Norge overleve det som kommer? </h2></div></div></a></li><li class=\"hyperion-css-1sdqocr\"><a aria-label=\"Mustafa Can: Asle Tojes lojalitetslaboratorium\" class=\"imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-small:link-internal\" href=\"/meninger/kronikk/i/3pJpnd/asle-tojes-lojalitetslaboratorium\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1gd6fuo\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-1okcitd\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"106px\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=3662a42829e7b5aa6681b26be3acaeb54f8eb89d\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=3662a42829e7b5aa6681b26be3acaeb54f8eb89d 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=7056b5de99e41f0dc883c2eeb76dc627930f0600 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=1981f5c3fce43f20eb36fa0722c614711dcd8a8f 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=7c35a60773c6671a9ebcf1f665f590005844a33a 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=171169c18dd9da18f987d210391acb9d24951b74 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=8903471c91d4b53d94cb7d54c0e46b07affc16e9 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=159d9966fb30e1402882e0de7544f6b8a2997c84 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=f78ccb3d94e448e846413b54384509d79524e6bc 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=128e80ac952b76555d0a5943599db1c8719106f7 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-djqnd\">Les også</div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-b9tnbt\">Mustafa Can: Asle Tojes lojalitetslaboratorium</h2></div></div></a></li><li class=\"hyperion-css-1sdqocr\"><a aria-label=\"Asle Toje: Hva er det våre ungdommer skal kjempe for?\" class=\"imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-small:link-internal\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/WvbJrd/hva-er-det-vaare-ungdommer-skal-kjempe-for\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1gd6fuo\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-16f8sqc\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"106px\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=70e83b9abe569c9b5ed99e184c68a375a50e511a\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=70e83b9abe569c9b5ed99e184c68a375a50e511a 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=67b5c181d60131115f5aa2ee71a72bf244f00e6b 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=62e284e8b0f6c604c843a70f2e79efa0e7e97517 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=bfc585a36a8784184a3ac1537878d70b90f077d6 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=0a90ecd3f096e18a70bb74c4ca9648cad758ab58 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=4f0e3c0fe3c378040507a371445d51adadc94bda 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=6442f252bd6dfc2aa79621d416e13cccf77de48c 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=9f7b49fe46404a9522d8fb829f146150eae28deb 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=c926fb4c9769854827d89887af3d8e0b7338a26d 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-djqnd\">Les også</div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-b9tnbt\">Asle Toje: Hva er det våre ungdommer skal kjempe for?</h2></div></div></a></li><li class=\"hyperion-css-1sdqocr\"><a aria-label=\"Mozzie Marvati: Jeg er sivilisasjonskollapsen Asle Toje advarer om\" class=\"imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-small:link-internal\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/43q0RV/mozzie-marvati-jeg-er-sivilisasjonskollapsen-asle-toje-advarer-om\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1gd6fuo\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-19ve8al\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"106px\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&tight=true&w=1920&s=e5defd8b8db326310b195ff75bf6bcbcb708e7be\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&tight=true&w=1920&s=e5defd8b8db326310b195ff75bf6bcbcb708e7be 1920w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=6b72c82500280a7d8ded6841e0cde549ee2c3907 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=046f750acba126f8e111a343f5191904b743d258 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=735fc01983e2b8539c7ba89e7723bbc76736723f 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=a7d3ed8958a12094c8abfd77c95542284e966ab8 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=f450e9b0ca55b8f74a2c6b8892920b4274f43c67 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=0625351ea17176246fdc7b3deeb4a8820bf8cc2a 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=caa5998389a67251bfbfd94ae1c9f21d08d4b833 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=376de335b62095ef5866fd48819cbb171b6899d3 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:1920 / 1440\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-djqnd\">Les også</div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-b9tnbt\">Mozzie Marvati: Jeg er sivilisasjonskollapsen Asle Toje advarer om</h2></div></div></a></li><li class=\"hyperion-css-1sdqocr\"><a aria-label=\"Hilde Sandvik: Ti spørsmål til Asle Toje\" class=\"imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-small:link-internal\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/e78XvO/ti-spoersmaal-til-asle-toje\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1gd6fuo\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-1m3irxy\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"106px\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=749&tight=true&w=998&s=7de02202976b37f7b7060756fdcb0e717a382c4e\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=749&tight=true&w=998&s=7de02202976b37f7b7060756fdcb0e717a382c4e 998w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=780c975e70ad6a971059867a46ac1020f8bc6e14 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=53ae4898408b2fab56144d226d5c97e1153725f5 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=26a6eec1157c0d5e46981e03e80e815318fde66e 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=7b66fffacac23b01822e988ef214f7e8de3639af 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=1886147d195721d329379a4419c372940ba8befa 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=21beb1cc2adc63f403103999c7ea87d5b5192889 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:998 / 749\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-djqnd\">Les også</div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-b9tnbt\">Hilde Sandvik: Ti spørsmål til Asle Toje</h2></div></div></a></li><li class=\"hyperion-css-1sdqocr\"><a aria-label=\"Bengt Andersen: «Det usynlige stoffet», som Asle Toje skriver om, virker å ha reell betydning\" class=\"imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-small:link-internal\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/2pGXRq/det-usynlige-stoffet-som-asle-toje-skriver-om-virker-aa-ha-reell-betydning\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1gd6fuo\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-1vrsc0j\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"106px\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=0e29d13cc78191aa28de7c1a8518bad8c579c4f9\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=0e29d13cc78191aa28de7c1a8518bad8c579c4f9 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=ea996a9067cc8cef9510e48ca7fc68060769da0f 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=c3b4e6553f1eb9a70f0ee8ff680cb1f4d5efdaba 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=162c237be112b02f57b755b93f12d8581f848547 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=248bc3b074135e67a1820a98304ed54c28887fae 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=dfb383cd7311ce8add11edfb2a7cf02d52305514 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=6305977742b5c5b92b9d225ccefb4bfa50cc2ff3 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=9ed8199a0aecfb974d3e51558d149ff81f74ed23 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=a412bc09b1c92b25c1cbe716f00eb268a3ac4b07 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-djqnd\">Les også</div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-b9tnbt\">Bengt Andersen: «Det usynlige stoffet», som Asle Toje skriver om, virker å ha reell betydning</h2></div></div></a></li></ol></div></div><div class=\"advertory-brandmetrics-survey\" id=\"brandmetrics-survey\"></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1lkfsxc\"><button aria-label=\"Vis kommentarer\" class=\"hyperion-css-1q6qqhb\" title=\"Vis kommentarer\" type=\"button\"> <!-- -->Vis<!-- --> <!-- -->kommentarer</button></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1yxx8oe\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1jbnpry\"><button aria-label=\"Kopier URL til utklippstavle\" class=\"hyperion-css-pdsgro\" title=\"Kopier URL til utklippstavle\" type=\"button\">Kopier lenke</button><a aria-label=\"Tips oss\" class=\"hyperion-css-1f62hkp\" data-test-tag=\"internal-link\" href=\"/tips\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">Tips oss</a></div></div><div class=\"extendedContent paywall hyperion-css-177q39v\" id=\"widget-recirculation-matrix\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-r57xc5\" data-test-tag=\"widget:title\">Les videre</h2><div class=\"bundle extendedContent hyperion-css-cbecqi\"><ol class=\"hyperion-css-1700tdj\"><li class=\"hyperion-css-1lcs599\"><a aria-label=\"Ifølge Asle Tojes logikk er jeg et symptom på Norges forfall\" class=\"imagePosition-top medium opinion-teaser hyperion-css-bvr9ut\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-medium:link-internal\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/43q0RV/mozzie-marvati-jeg-er-sivilisasjonskollapsen-asle-toje-advarer-om\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1k8sl4j\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-185p2iv\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"(min-width: 981px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&w=1920&s=b4662b90fa167d80f9986b6f2e9e3104ca7834a9\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&w=1920&s=b4662b90fa167d80f9986b6f2e9e3104ca7834a9 1920w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&w=1440&s=a421f9cb046179b7e1f2062cd3584ee35fdda14c 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&w=1024&s=19b949b5a1443b82a1bdbb89692863f2c25b22d6 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&w=980&s=006150b185d445af145ab3f123e534c8091c70bb 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&w=780&s=3ef54957c0e68bd65800857fcbe5e2d32c4f6cc9 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&w=580&s=757a1b9c1d451ba427987b6e7e1929024830ea00 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&w=380&s=c9c78b75118905aae3eff5987d7fe5ea8813f1a8 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&w=200&s=5bcf3f02f8e552614c21191ab71165eb49163e96 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&w=100&s=9b6dc048d21fe3cdfe13d79333d0520d24608025 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:1920 / 1440\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"teaser-label hyperion-css-52yh2p\">DEBATT<div class=\"timestamp friendly hyperion-css-10eh1jy\" data-test-tag=\"timestamp\"><span class=\"hyperion-css-ea91rp\">Publisert:</span><div><time aria-label=\"2025-12-29T14:00:42Z\" datetime=\"2025-12-29T14:00:42Z\" itemprop=\"datePublished\" pubdate=\"pubdate\">I går 15:00</time></div></div></div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1ucd1we\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-1hyuqep\">Ifølge Asle Tojes logikk er jeg et symptom på Norges forfall</h2></div></div></a></li><li class=\"hyperion-css-1lcs599\"><a aria-label=\"Hva er det våre ungdommer skal kjempe for?\" class=\"imagePosition-top medium opinion-teaser hyperion-css-bvr9ut\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-medium:link-internal\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/WvbJrd/hva-er-det-vaare-ungdommer-skal-kjempe-for\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1k8sl4j\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-1099xn\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"(min-width: 981px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=0346cc3da9e168fc04503fef9d4c1595572c5af8\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=0346cc3da9e168fc04503fef9d4c1595572c5af8 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&w=1440&s=654122b3a745081e439b5bc7c33594b600b93810 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&w=1024&s=410bd58c27281cf550819767d342bf1b6815558c 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&w=980&s=b7816fb4427e24c7c05be368b97cfb768fc75015 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&w=780&s=352829fb19795da8689639e46f0890e21165f535 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&w=580&s=07395e8894aea57d10c6182dcf55ff136baddf96 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&w=380&s=1693b698020fb4c276c933d36e8bae6d5ae4d698 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&w=200&s=4de205f65abdc7fbe756b716aadc00dc78cf40d7 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&w=100&s=a56a657329b91b617325da708303233abdda79fc 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"teaser-label hyperion-css-52yh2p\">DEBATT<div class=\"timestamp friendly hyperion-css-10eh1jy\" data-test-tag=\"timestamp\"><span class=\"hyperion-css-ea91rp\">Publisert:</span><div><time aria-label=\"2025-12-27T16:27:26Z\" datetime=\"2025-12-27T16:27:26Z\" itemprop=\"datePublished\" pubdate=\"pubdate\">27. desember</time></div></div></div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1ucd1we\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-1hyuqep\">Hva er det våre ungdommer skal kjempe for?</h2></div></div></a></li><li class=\"hyperion-css-1lcs599\"><div class=\"advertory-aftenposten-netboard-wrapper \"><div class=\"advertory-aftenposten-netboard\" id=\"netboard_recirc\"></div></div></li><li class=\"hyperion-css-1lcs599\"><a aria-label=\"Problemet med antisemittisme er størst blant de nye aktivistene\" class=\"imagePosition-top medium opinion-teaser hyperion-css-bvr9ut\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-medium:link-internal\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/JO1mAR/de-nye-aktivistene\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1k8sl4j\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-jj0wlk\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"(min-width: 981px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=a1b75539e559f3e6cc1caeff4e87ad805e039e1a\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=a1b75539e559f3e6cc1caeff4e87ad805e039e1a 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&w=1440&s=8a77c7392f88c59079fb2e25a94499b8aa4ee85d 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&w=1024&s=75e17e7a1e67f59a8865c39ca2b6d1d24cf047bc 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&w=980&s=9b8e2539ca836d6ebf100f14823281e16f761618 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&w=780&s=92d00f55ad7de30eaa6c13da3549b8df1ac77a1f 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&w=580&s=9e460dc787c23876c6397a38995c7cec9db893b7 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&w=380&s=68be23af4044c4d4fbd54617386e9c5cec2d130c 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&w=200&s=3d7ba3efc55d4176bb631a39d75fc25cc016c8e3 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&w=100&s=d568402368e04951a8a323425b017a96d9acd9fd 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"teaser-label hyperion-css-52yh2p\">DEBATT<div class=\"timestamp friendly hyperion-css-10eh1jy\" data-test-tag=\"timestamp\"><span class=\"hyperion-css-ea91rp\">Publisert:</span><div><time aria-label=\"2025-12-16T15:05:45Z\" datetime=\"2025-12-16T15:05:45Z\" itemprop=\"datePublished\" pubdate=\"pubdate\">16. desember</time></div></div></div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1ucd1we\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-1hyuqep\">Problemet med 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Fastlege Mozzie Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet.
I et innlegg i Aftenposten beskriver fastlege Mozzie Marvati sitt liv og virke i Norge på en måte som fortjener respekt. Det er ingen motsetning mellom hans biografi og mitt anliggende.
Problemet oppstår først når han gjør sin egen historie til et motargument mot en analyse som aldri handlet om ham.
Jeg har ikke hevdet at innvandrere flest mangler lojalitet, at enkeltpersoner ikke bidrar, eller at norskhet er en blodlinje. Tvert imot har jeg eksplisitt avvist slike forståelser. I et innlegg han refererer til.
Likevel er hele Marvatis tekst bygget på at jeg mener nettopp dette. Det er ikke en uenighet – det er å misforstå med vilje. Som ikke står ham til heder.
At Aftenposten refuserer innlegg som støtter meg og publiserer noe som dette, sier noe. Det er greit, jeg kan godt være den ene mot de mange.
Vilkår for et fungerende demokrati
At enkeltmennesker integreres godt, yter, forsvarer landet og lever fullt ut norske liv, sier lite om hvorvidt et samfunn som helhet lykkes med å opprettholde felles normer, språkkompetanse og institusjonell tillit over tid. Struktur kan ikke tilbakevises med biografi. En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege.
Når jeg skriver at «svært mange ikke er norske i kulturell forstand», sikter jeg ikke til innsatsvilje, moral eller menneskeverd, men til kjennskap til felles referanser, institusjoner og normer.
Dette er forutsetninger også majoriteten må vedlikeholde. Å påpeke dette er ikke å trekke opp en uoppnåelig terskel, men å beskrive et faktisk vilkår for et fungerende demokrati.
Allerede svakt
Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet. Det som skaper mistanke, er uklare forventninger og manglende begrepsavklaring.
Et fellesskap som ikke kan beskrives uten at noen føler seg personlig mistenkeliggjort, er allerede svakt.
Et fellesskap som ikke kan beskrives uten at noen føler seg personlig mistenkeliggjort, er allerede svakt
Norge er hverken bare en idé eller bare institusjoner. Det er også et historisk og sosialt fellesskap som må bæres, læres og fornyes. Å si dette er ikke ekskluderende. Det er ansvarlig.
Flere bidrag i denne debatten:
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src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=2048&w=2048&s=f7fd0a3c70d1333a1833c16f55d9a9d2578fa678" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=2048&w=2048&s=f7fd0a3c70d1333a1833c16f55d9a9d2578fa678 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&w=1440&s=e0dda881856225e0b567f6f433d568357839c43f 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1024&w=1024&s=4f21cc6f62967dad9089f94ae72c8d130f34552b 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=980&w=980&s=07930049779021b8f686961d409a95193f4c464a 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=780&w=780&s=c02ac1ea8a33f352052273775765d83f1b3429a9 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=580&w=580&s=9c1e0f8b8f79c041350fa9bd5798e28ede5f08ff 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=380&w=380&s=41abffb40d1f1fc7ae1091e6c8d41083605da8bf 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=200&w=200&s=123dd9333f6133e407c80072658e6e4b4bf8d051 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=100&w=100&s=27d883be83813044b8c6defab4461cf425272c6d 100w" style="aspect-ratio:2048 / 2048"></div><div class="hyperion-css-0"><span class="byline-name hyperion-css-1cn5stf" data-test-tag="byline:author-name" data-testid="byline:author-name">Asle Toje</span><div class="hyperion-css-lc8ynt">Utenrikspolitisk forsker og kommentator</div></div></a></li></ul></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-ytalhi"><div class="hyperion-css-upuxee"><div class="contentWidth hyperion-css-eemj7d"><div class="hyperion-css-152x5og"><div class="hyperion-css-1xdhyk6"></div></div></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-6kzd76"></div></div><figure class="image fullWidthDesktop top stretch-image-asset-on-mobile landscape hyperion-css-mochwu" data-test-tag="image"><img alt="En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege, svarer Asle Toje." class="image-asset hyperion-css-15sw6kl" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="high" loading="eager" sizes="(min-width: 380px) 980px, 100vw" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1365&w=2048&s=a0bcc5dcdb12826301c349f23e50500e156e5ea5" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1365&w=2048&s=a0bcc5dcdb12826301c349f23e50500e156e5ea5 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=960&w=1440&s=13e6e8653ef8f5ef4a66c2bfa7b7a001bcefe091 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=683&w=1024&s=3a9bb512e3ca5682ff5c732114d544558c13543e 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=653&w=980&s=7cd85e80e082c441e8b5e4ad2e037c370bc6a0cf 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=520&w=780&s=a4454af7df5258242429631735445fda52f33afa 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=387&w=580&s=fb1aa8caa0caeded7221ac48b59acdc5bbd2379a 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=253&w=380&s=ee9047c12c1529c4081992e0284b761806f3325f 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=133&w=200&s=e7f63cb3f6312eeeda128db4caf78bed4fee89de 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=67&w=100&s=4e5299ceb9ca601762fb785be25466a14e28f20d 100w" style="aspect-ratio:2048 / 1365"><figcaption class="image-figcaption hyperion-css-1ksg4fz" data-test-tag="image:caption"><span aria-hidden="true" class="image-caption">En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege, svarer Asle Toje.</span><span class="image-byline hyperion-css-161dy2i"> Foto: Dan P. Neegaard</span></figcaption></figure><p class="contentWidth hyperion-css-1mepuqa" data-test-tag="lead-text">Fastlege Mozzie Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet.</p><div class="paywall hyperion-css-h9wc15" data-test-tag="timestamp"><div><time aria-label="Publisert: 30.12.2025 10:29" datetime="2025-12-30T09:29:59Z" itemprop="datePublished">Publisert: 30.12.2025 10:29</time></div></div><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic"><a aria-label="I et innlegg i Aftenposten beskriver fastlege Mozzie Marvati " class="hyperion-css-1raymq9" data-test-tag="internal-link" href="/meninger/debatt/i/43q0RV/mozzie-marvati-jeg-er-sivilisasjonskollapsen-asle-toje-advarer-om" rel="" target="" theme="opinion">I et innlegg i Aftenposten beskriver fastlege Mozzie Marvati </a>sitt liv og virke i Norge på en måte som fortjener respekt. Det er ingen motsetning mellom hans biografi og mitt anliggende.</p><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">Problemet oppstår først når han gjør sin egen historie til et motargument mot en analyse som aldri handlet om ham.</p><div class="advertory-aftenposten-netboard-wrapper__article "><div class="advertory-aftenposten-netboard__article" id="netboard_1"></div></div><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">Jeg har ikke hevdet at innvandrere flest mangler lojalitet, at enkeltpersoner ikke bidrar, eller at norskhet er en blodlinje. Tvert imot har jeg eksplisitt avvist slike forståelser. <a aria-label="I et innlegg han refererer til" class="hyperion-css-1raymq9" data-test-tag="internal-link" href="/meninger/debatt/i/WvbJrd/hva-er-det-vaare-ungdommer-skal-kjempe-for" rel="" target="" theme="opinion">I et innlegg han refererer til</a>.</p><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">Likevel er hele Marvatis tekst bygget på at jeg mener nettopp dette. Det er ikke en uenighet – det er å misforstå med vilje. Som ikke står ham til heder.</p><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">At Aftenposten refuserer innlegg som støtter meg og publiserer noe som dette, sier noe. Det er greit, jeg kan godt være den ene mot de mange.</p><h2 class="paywall hyperion-css-npxxyf" data-test-tag="paragraph-header">Vilkår for et fungerende demokrati</h2><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">At enkeltmennesker integreres godt, yter, forsvarer landet og lever fullt ut norske liv, sier lite om hvorvidt et samfunn som helhet lykkes med å opprettholde felles normer, språkkompetanse og institusjonell tillit over tid. Struktur kan ikke tilbakevises med biografi. En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege.</p><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">Når jeg skriver at «<a aria-label="svært mange ikke er norske i kulturell forstand" class="hyperion-css-1raymq9" data-test-tag="internal-link" href="/meninger/debatt/i/8pmm5G/asle-toje-vil-norge-overleve-det-som-kommer" rel="" target="" theme="opinion">svært mange ikke er norske i kulturell forstand</a>», sikter jeg ikke til innsatsvilje, moral eller menneskeverd, men til kjennskap til felles referanser, institusjoner og normer.</p><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">Dette er forutsetninger også majoriteten må vedlikeholde. Å påpeke dette er ikke å trekke opp en uoppnåelig terskel, men å beskrive et faktisk vilkår for et fungerende demokrati.</p><h2 class="paywall hyperion-css-npxxyf" data-test-tag="paragraph-header">Allerede svakt</h2><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet. Det som skaper mistanke, er uklare forventninger og manglende begrepsavklaring.</p><div class="advertory-aftenposten-netboard-wrapper__article "><div class="advertory-aftenposten-netboard__article" id="brandboard"></div></div><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">Et fellesskap som ikke kan beskrives uten at noen føler seg personlig mistenkeliggjort, er allerede svakt.</p><div class="opinion extendedContent paywall hyperion-css-15ic3dq"><blockquote class="hyperion-css-qsvb07" data-test-tag="blockquote">Et fellesskap som ikke kan beskrives uten at noen føler seg personlig mistenkeliggjort, er allerede svakt</blockquote></div><p class="paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic">Norge er hverken bare en idé eller bare institusjoner. Det er også et historisk og sosialt fellesskap som må bæres, læres og fornyes. Å si dette er ikke ekskluderende. Det er ansvarlig.</p><h2 class="paywall hyperion-css-npxxyf" data-test-tag="paragraph-header">Flere bidrag i denne debatten:</h2></article><div class="paywall hyperion-css-10ge17e" id="widget-recirculation-matrix-inline"><div class="bundle hyperion-css-6nuwex"><ol class="hyperion-css-1700tdj"><li class="hyperion-css-1sdqocr"><a aria-label="Asle Toje: Vil Norge overleve det som kommer? " class="imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2" data-test-tag="teaser-small:link-internal" href="/meninger/debatt/i/8pmm5G/asle-toje-vil-norge-overleve-det-som-kommer" rel="" target=""><div class="hyperion-css-bjn8wh"><div class="hyperion-css-1gd6fuo"><img alt="" class="image-asset hyperion-css-tsqfh8" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="106px" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=2d059ec1eff70dc8a7bc06346144c01d075fffad" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=2d059ec1eff70dc8a7bc06346144c01d075fffad 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=2e27daff6ab051ed7b47c7a9ca2f786391601baf 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=b9a748f74c4b1f0d76aa5e56dd06aad39b4b1580 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=fe4e8245693f32d90097f04c14de966e7d1bd90a 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=7462d6240ef59bd30d128aedf1f6e1a0f2addcc9 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=8f3caccacd1b94eec9c4cb70e79f420baf4c2267 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=cd9da13696ff2a7ab5e78b62090f3bdf8f702b59 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=a1e1355cd3cbc414f50875fe4fc506e9e1bf8395 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=42cd3c7ccb6068e3254a9d7721bbfd482995f236 100w" style="aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1hlrz9z"><div class="hyperion-css-djqnd">Les også</div><div class="opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia"><h2 class="hyperion-css-b9tnbt">Asle Toje: Vil Norge overleve det som kommer? </h2></div></div></a></li><li class="hyperion-css-1sdqocr"><a aria-label="Mustafa Can: Asle Tojes lojalitetslaboratorium" class="imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2" data-test-tag="teaser-small:link-internal" href="/meninger/kronikk/i/3pJpnd/asle-tojes-lojalitetslaboratorium" rel="" target=""><div class="hyperion-css-bjn8wh"><div class="hyperion-css-1gd6fuo"><img alt="" class="image-asset hyperion-css-1okcitd" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="106px" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=3662a42829e7b5aa6681b26be3acaeb54f8eb89d" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=3662a42829e7b5aa6681b26be3acaeb54f8eb89d 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=7056b5de99e41f0dc883c2eeb76dc627930f0600 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=1981f5c3fce43f20eb36fa0722c614711dcd8a8f 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=7c35a60773c6671a9ebcf1f665f590005844a33a 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=171169c18dd9da18f987d210391acb9d24951b74 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=8903471c91d4b53d94cb7d54c0e46b07affc16e9 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=159d9966fb30e1402882e0de7544f6b8a2997c84 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=f78ccb3d94e448e846413b54384509d79524e6bc 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=128e80ac952b76555d0a5943599db1c8719106f7 100w" style="aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1hlrz9z"><div class="hyperion-css-djqnd">Les også</div><div class="opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia"><h2 class="hyperion-css-b9tnbt">Mustafa Can: Asle Tojes lojalitetslaboratorium</h2></div></div></a></li><li class="hyperion-css-1sdqocr"><a aria-label="Asle Toje: Hva er det våre ungdommer skal kjempe for?" class="imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2" data-test-tag="teaser-small:link-internal" href="/meninger/debatt/i/WvbJrd/hva-er-det-vaare-ungdommer-skal-kjempe-for" rel="" target=""><div class="hyperion-css-bjn8wh"><div class="hyperion-css-1gd6fuo"><img alt="" class="image-asset hyperion-css-16f8sqc" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="106px" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=70e83b9abe569c9b5ed99e184c68a375a50e511a" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=70e83b9abe569c9b5ed99e184c68a375a50e511a 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=67b5c181d60131115f5aa2ee71a72bf244f00e6b 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=62e284e8b0f6c604c843a70f2e79efa0e7e97517 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=bfc585a36a8784184a3ac1537878d70b90f077d6 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=0a90ecd3f096e18a70bb74c4ca9648cad758ab58 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=4f0e3c0fe3c378040507a371445d51adadc94bda 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=6442f252bd6dfc2aa79621d416e13cccf77de48c 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=9f7b49fe46404a9522d8fb829f146150eae28deb 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=c926fb4c9769854827d89887af3d8e0b7338a26d 100w" style="aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1hlrz9z"><div class="hyperion-css-djqnd">Les også</div><div class="opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia"><h2 class="hyperion-css-b9tnbt">Asle Toje: Hva er det våre ungdommer skal kjempe for?</h2></div></div></a></li><li class="hyperion-css-1sdqocr"><a aria-label="Mozzie Marvati: Jeg er sivilisasjonskollapsen Asle Toje advarer om" class="imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2" data-test-tag="teaser-small:link-internal" href="/meninger/debatt/i/43q0RV/mozzie-marvati-jeg-er-sivilisasjonskollapsen-asle-toje-advarer-om" rel="" target=""><div class="hyperion-css-bjn8wh"><div class="hyperion-css-1gd6fuo"><img alt="" class="image-asset hyperion-css-19ve8al" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="106px" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&tight=true&w=1920&s=e5defd8b8db326310b195ff75bf6bcbcb708e7be" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&tight=true&w=1920&s=e5defd8b8db326310b195ff75bf6bcbcb708e7be 1920w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=6b72c82500280a7d8ded6841e0cde549ee2c3907 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=046f750acba126f8e111a343f5191904b743d258 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=735fc01983e2b8539c7ba89e7723bbc76736723f 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=a7d3ed8958a12094c8abfd77c95542284e966ab8 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=f450e9b0ca55b8f74a2c6b8892920b4274f43c67 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=0625351ea17176246fdc7b3deeb4a8820bf8cc2a 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=caa5998389a67251bfbfd94ae1c9f21d08d4b833 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=376de335b62095ef5866fd48819cbb171b6899d3 100w" style="aspect-ratio:1920 / 1440"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1hlrz9z"><div class="hyperion-css-djqnd">Les også</div><div class="opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia"><h2 class="hyperion-css-b9tnbt">Mozzie Marvati: Jeg er sivilisasjonskollapsen Asle Toje advarer om</h2></div></div></a></li><li class="hyperion-css-1sdqocr"><a aria-label="Hilde Sandvik: Ti spørsmål til Asle Toje" class="imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2" data-test-tag="teaser-small:link-internal" href="/meninger/debatt/i/e78XvO/ti-spoersmaal-til-asle-toje" rel="" target=""><div class="hyperion-css-bjn8wh"><div class="hyperion-css-1gd6fuo"><img alt="" class="image-asset hyperion-css-1m3irxy" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="106px" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=749&tight=true&w=998&s=7de02202976b37f7b7060756fdcb0e717a382c4e" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=749&tight=true&w=998&s=7de02202976b37f7b7060756fdcb0e717a382c4e 998w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=780c975e70ad6a971059867a46ac1020f8bc6e14 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=53ae4898408b2fab56144d226d5c97e1153725f5 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=26a6eec1157c0d5e46981e03e80e815318fde66e 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=7b66fffacac23b01822e988ef214f7e8de3639af 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=1886147d195721d329379a4419c372940ba8befa 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=21beb1cc2adc63f403103999c7ea87d5b5192889 100w" style="aspect-ratio:998 / 749"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1hlrz9z"><div class="hyperion-css-djqnd">Les også</div><div class="opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia"><h2 class="hyperion-css-b9tnbt">Hilde Sandvik: Ti spørsmål til Asle Toje</h2></div></div></a></li><li class="hyperion-css-1sdqocr"><a aria-label="Bengt Andersen: «Det usynlige stoffet», som Asle Toje skriver om, virker å ha reell betydning" class="imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2" data-test-tag="teaser-small:link-internal" href="/meninger/debatt/i/2pGXRq/det-usynlige-stoffet-som-asle-toje-skriver-om-virker-aa-ha-reell-betydning" rel="" target=""><div class="hyperion-css-bjn8wh"><div class="hyperion-css-1gd6fuo"><img alt="" class="image-asset hyperion-css-1vrsc0j" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="106px" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=0e29d13cc78191aa28de7c1a8518bad8c579c4f9" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=0e29d13cc78191aa28de7c1a8518bad8c579c4f9 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=ea996a9067cc8cef9510e48ca7fc68060769da0f 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=c3b4e6553f1eb9a70f0ee8ff680cb1f4d5efdaba 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=162c237be112b02f57b755b93f12d8581f848547 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=248bc3b074135e67a1820a98304ed54c28887fae 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=dfb383cd7311ce8add11edfb2a7cf02d52305514 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=6305977742b5c5b92b9d225ccefb4bfa50cc2ff3 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=9ed8199a0aecfb974d3e51558d149ff81f74ed23 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=a412bc09b1c92b25c1cbe716f00eb268a3ac4b07 100w" style="aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1hlrz9z"><div class="hyperion-css-djqnd">Les også</div><div class="opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia"><h2 class="hyperion-css-b9tnbt">Bengt Andersen: «Det usynlige stoffet», som Asle Toje skriver om, virker å ha reell betydning</h2></div></div></a></li></ol></div></div><div class="advertory-brandmetrics-survey" id="brandmetrics-survey"></div><div class="hyperion-css-1lkfsxc"><button aria-label="Vis kommentarer" class="hyperion-css-1q6qqhb" title="Vis kommentarer" type="button"> <!-- -->Vis<!-- --> <!-- -->kommentarer</button></div><div class="hyperion-css-1yxx8oe"><div 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La meg fortelle hvordan dette «forfallet» ser ut fra min side." class="imagePosition-top medium opinion-teaser hyperion-css-bvr9ut" data-test-tag="teaser-medium:link-internal" href="/meninger/debatt/i/43q0RV/mozzie-marvati-jeg-er-sivilisasjonskollapsen-asle-toje-advarer-om" rel="" target=""><div class="hyperion-css-bjn8wh"><div class="hyperion-css-1k8sl4j"><img alt="" class="image-asset hyperion-css-185p2iv" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="(min-width: 981px) 980px, 100vw" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&w=1920&s=b4662b90fa167d80f9986b6f2e9e3104ca7834a9" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&w=1920&s=b4662b90fa167d80f9986b6f2e9e3104ca7834a9 1920w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&w=1440&s=a421f9cb046179b7e1f2062cd3584ee35fdda14c 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&w=1024&s=19b949b5a1443b82a1bdbb89692863f2c25b22d6 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&w=980&s=006150b185d445af145ab3f123e534c8091c70bb 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&w=780&s=3ef54957c0e68bd65800857fcbe5e2d32c4f6cc9 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&w=580&s=757a1b9c1d451ba427987b6e7e1929024830ea00 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&w=380&s=c9c78b75118905aae3eff5987d7fe5ea8813f1a8 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&w=200&s=5bcf3f02f8e552614c21191ab71165eb49163e96 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&w=100&s=9b6dc048d21fe3cdfe13d79333d0520d24608025 100w" style="aspect-ratio:1920 / 1440"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1hlrz9z"><div class="teaser-label hyperion-css-52yh2p">DEBATT<div class="timestamp friendly hyperion-css-10eh1jy" data-test-tag="timestamp"><span class="hyperion-css-ea91rp">Publisert:</span><div><time aria-label="2025-12-29T14:00:42Z" datetime="2025-12-29T14:00:42Z" itemprop="datePublished" pubdate="pubdate">I går 15:00</time></div></div></div><div class="opinion hyperion-css-1ucd1we"><h2 class="hyperion-css-1hyuqep">Ifølge Asle Tojes logikk er jeg et symptom på Norges forfall. La meg fortelle hvordan dette «forfallet» ser ut fra min side.</h2></div></div></a></li><li class="hyperion-css-1lcs599"><a aria-label="Hva er det våre ungdommer skal kjempe for?" class="imagePosition-top medium opinion-teaser hyperion-css-bvr9ut" data-test-tag="teaser-medium:link-internal" href="/meninger/debatt/i/WvbJrd/hva-er-det-vaare-ungdommer-skal-kjempe-for" rel="" target=""><div class="hyperion-css-bjn8wh"><div class="hyperion-css-1k8sl4j"><img alt="" class="image-asset hyperion-css-1099xn" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="(min-width: 981px) 980px, 100vw" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=0346cc3da9e168fc04503fef9d4c1595572c5af8" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=0346cc3da9e168fc04503fef9d4c1595572c5af8 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&w=1440&s=654122b3a745081e439b5bc7c33594b600b93810 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&w=1024&s=410bd58c27281cf550819767d342bf1b6815558c 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&w=980&s=b7816fb4427e24c7c05be368b97cfb768fc75015 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&w=780&s=352829fb19795da8689639e46f0890e21165f535 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&w=580&s=07395e8894aea57d10c6182dcf55ff136baddf96 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&w=380&s=1693b698020fb4c276c933d36e8bae6d5ae4d698 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&w=200&s=4de205f65abdc7fbe756b716aadc00dc78cf40d7 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&w=100&s=a56a657329b91b617325da708303233abdda79fc 100w" style="aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1hlrz9z"><div class="teaser-label hyperion-css-52yh2p">DEBATT<div class="timestamp friendly hyperion-css-10eh1jy" data-test-tag="timestamp"><span class="hyperion-css-ea91rp">Publisert:</span><div><time aria-label="2025-12-27T16:27:26Z" datetime="2025-12-27T16:27:26Z" itemprop="datePublished" pubdate="pubdate">27. desember</time></div></div></div><div class="opinion hyperion-css-1ucd1we"><h2 class="hyperion-css-1hyuqep">Hva er det våre ungdommer skal kjempe for?</h2></div></div></a></li><li class="hyperion-css-1lcs599"><div class="advertory-aftenposten-netboard-wrapper "><div class="advertory-aftenposten-netboard" id="netboard_recirc"></div></div></li><li class="hyperion-css-1lcs599"><a aria-label="Problemet med antisemittisme er størst blant de nye aktivistene" class="imagePosition-top medium opinion-teaser hyperion-css-bvr9ut" data-test-tag="teaser-medium:link-internal" href="/meninger/debatt/i/JO1mAR/de-nye-aktivistene" rel="" target=""><div class="hyperion-css-bjn8wh"><div class="hyperion-css-1k8sl4j"><img alt="" class="image-asset hyperion-css-jj0wlk" data-test-tag="image-asset" fetchpriority="auto" loading="lazy" sizes="(min-width: 981px) 980px, 100vw" src="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=a1b75539e559f3e6cc1caeff4e87ad805e039e1a" srcset="https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=a1b75539e559f3e6cc1caeff4e87ad805e039e1a 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&w=1440&s=8a77c7392f88c59079fb2e25a94499b8aa4ee85d 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&w=1024&s=75e17e7a1e67f59a8865c39ca2b6d1d24cf047bc 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&w=980&s=9b8e2539ca836d6ebf100f14823281e16f761618 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&w=780&s=92d00f55ad7de30eaa6c13da3549b8df1ac77a1f 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&w=580&s=9e460dc787c23876c6397a38995c7cec9db893b7 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&w=380&s=68be23af4044c4d4fbd54617386e9c5cec2d130c 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&w=200&s=3d7ba3efc55d4176bb631a39d75fc25cc016c8e3 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&w=100&s=d568402368e04951a8a323425b017a96d9acd9fd 100w" style="aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536"></div></div><div class="hyperion-css-1hlrz9z"><div class="teaser-label hyperion-css-52yh2p">DEBATT<div class="timestamp friendly hyperion-css-10eh1jy" data-test-tag="timestamp"><span class="hyperion-css-ea91rp">Publisert:</span><div><time aria-label="2025-12-16T15:05:45Z" datetime="2025-12-16T15:05:45Z" itemprop="datePublished" pubdate="pubdate">16. desember</time></div></div></div><div class="opinion hyperion-css-1ucd1we"><h2 class="hyperion-css-1hyuqep">Problemet med antisemittisme er størst blant de nye aktivistene</h2></div></div></a></li></ol></div></div><div class="extendedContent paywall hyperion-css-1wv24dq" id="widget-inline-list"><div 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"content" : "# Selvgratulerende skivebom\n\n- [Asle TojeUtenrikspolitisk forsker og kommentator](http://aftenposten.no/av/asle-toje-5)\n\nFastlege Mozzie Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet.\n\n[I et innlegg i Aftenposten beskriver fastlege Mozzie Marvati ](/meninger/debatt/i/43q0RV/mozzie-marvati-jeg-er-sivilisasjonskollapsen-asle-toje-advarer-om)sitt liv og virke i Norge på en måte som fortjener respekt. Det er ingen motsetning mellom hans biografi og mitt anliggende.\n\nProblemet oppstår først når han gjør sin egen historie til et motargument mot en analyse som aldri handlet om ham.\n\nJeg har ikke hevdet at innvandrere flest mangler lojalitet, at enkeltpersoner ikke bidrar, eller at norskhet er en blodlinje. Tvert imot har jeg eksplisitt avvist slike forståelser. [I et innlegg han refererer til](/meninger/debatt/i/WvbJrd/hva-er-det-vaare-ungdommer-skal-kjempe-for).\n\nLikevel er hele Marvatis tekst bygget på at jeg mener nettopp dette. Det er ikke en uenighet – det er å misforstå med vilje. Som ikke står ham til heder.\n\nAt Aftenposten refuserer innlegg som støtter meg og publiserer noe som dette, sier noe. Det er greit, jeg kan godt være den ene mot de mange.\n\n## Vilkår for et fungerende demokrati\n\nAt enkeltmennesker integreres godt, yter, forsvarer landet og lever fullt ut norske liv, sier lite om hvorvidt et samfunn som helhet lykkes med å opprettholde felles normer, språkkompetanse og institusjonell tillit over tid. Struktur kan ikke tilbakevises med biografi. En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege.\n\nNår jeg skriver at «[svært mange ikke er norske i kulturell forstand](/meninger/debatt/i/8pmm5G/asle-toje-vil-norge-overleve-det-som-kommer)», sikter jeg ikke til innsatsvilje, moral eller menneskeverd, men til kjennskap til felles referanser, institusjoner og normer.\n\nDette er forutsetninger også majoriteten må vedlikeholde. Å påpeke dette er ikke å trekke opp en uoppnåelig terskel, men å beskrive et faktisk vilkår for et fungerende demokrati.\n\n## Allerede svakt\n\nMarvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet. Det som skaper mistanke, er uklare forventninger og manglende begrepsavklaring.\n\nEt fellesskap som ikke kan beskrives uten at noen føler seg personlig mistenkeliggjort, er allerede svakt.\n\n> Et fellesskap som ikke kan beskrives uten at noen føler seg personlig mistenkeliggjort, er allerede svakt\n\nNorge er hverken bare en idé eller bare institusjoner. Det er også et historisk og sosialt fellesskap som må bæres, læres og fornyes. Å si dette er ikke ekskluderende. Det er ansvarlig.\n\n## Flere bidrag i denne debatten:",
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class=\"advertory-aftenposten-topboard\" id=\"topboard\" style=\"min-height:150px\"></div></div><div class=\"advertory-wrapper-common-wallpaper wallpaper\"><div class=\"advertory-common-wallpaper disable-cogwheel\" id=\"wallpaper\"></div></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-dz5hzo\"><article class=\"article-wrapper-L4Ad1P\"><div class=\"opinion running-head extendedContent hyperion-css-1z06dqh\" data-test-tag=\"running-head\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-7enjca\"><a aria-label=\"Debatt\" class=\"hyperion-css-1raymq9\" data-test-tag=\"internal-link\" href=\"/meninger/debatt\" rel=\"\" target=\"\" theme=\"opinion\">Debatt</a></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-semo9s\"><a aria-label=\"Samfunnet\" class=\"hyperion-css-1raymq9\" data-test-tag=\"internal-link\" href=\"/tag/samfunnet\" rel=\"\" target=\"\" theme=\"opinion\">Samfunnet</a></div></div><h1 class=\"extendedContent h1 hyperion-css-j2lk82\" data-test-tag=\"headline\">Selvgratulerende skivebom</h1><div class=\"extendedContent hyperion-css-cgw1f6\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-io3370\" data-test-tag=\"byline\" data-testid=\"byline\"><ul class=\"hyperion-css-1772xtw\" data-test-tag=\"byline:authors\" data-testid=\"byline:authors\"><li class=\"hyperion-css-b8p8ys\"><a aria-label=\"Se journalistens profil: Asle Toje\" class=\"hyperion-css-1x0qoq7\" href=\"http://aftenposten.no/av/asle-toje-5\" title=\"Se journalistens profil: Asle Toje\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-y7i40o\"><img alt=\"Asle Toje\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-u06ts1\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" sizes=\"(min-width: 981px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=2048&w=2048&s=f7fd0a3c70d1333a1833c16f55d9a9d2578fa678\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=2048&w=2048&s=f7fd0a3c70d1333a1833c16f55d9a9d2578fa678 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&w=1440&s=e0dda881856225e0b567f6f433d568357839c43f 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1024&w=1024&s=4f21cc6f62967dad9089f94ae72c8d130f34552b 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=980&w=980&s=07930049779021b8f686961d409a95193f4c464a 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=780&w=780&s=c02ac1ea8a33f352052273775765d83f1b3429a9 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=580&w=580&s=9c1e0f8b8f79c041350fa9bd5798e28ede5f08ff 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=380&w=380&s=41abffb40d1f1fc7ae1091e6c8d41083605da8bf 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=200&w=200&s=123dd9333f6133e407c80072658e6e4b4bf8d051 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/author/afae5afe-b2a2-4dc7-be83-0f22400520dd?fit=crop&format=auto&h=100&w=100&s=27d883be83813044b8c6defab4461cf425272c6d 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 2048\"></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-0\"><span class=\"byline-name hyperion-css-1cn5stf\" data-test-tag=\"byline:author-name\" data-testid=\"byline:author-name\">Asle Toje</span><div class=\"hyperion-css-lc8ynt\">Utenrikspolitisk forsker og kommentator</div></div></a></li></ul></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-ytalhi\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-upuxee\"><div class=\"contentWidth hyperion-css-eemj7d\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-152x5og\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1xdhyk6\"></div></div></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-6kzd76\"></div></div><figure class=\"image fullWidthDesktop top stretch-image-asset-on-mobile landscape hyperion-css-mochwu\" data-test-tag=\"image\"><img alt=\"En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege, svarer Asle Toje.\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-15sw6kl\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"high\" loading=\"eager\" sizes=\"(min-width: 380px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1365&w=2048&s=a0bcc5dcdb12826301c349f23e50500e156e5ea5\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1365&w=2048&s=a0bcc5dcdb12826301c349f23e50500e156e5ea5 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=960&w=1440&s=13e6e8653ef8f5ef4a66c2bfa7b7a001bcefe091 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=683&w=1024&s=3a9bb512e3ca5682ff5c732114d544558c13543e 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=653&w=980&s=7cd85e80e082c441e8b5e4ad2e037c370bc6a0cf 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=520&w=780&s=a4454af7df5258242429631735445fda52f33afa 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=387&w=580&s=fb1aa8caa0caeded7221ac48b59acdc5bbd2379a 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=253&w=380&s=ee9047c12c1529c4081992e0284b761806f3325f 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=133&w=200&s=e7f63cb3f6312eeeda128db4caf78bed4fee89de 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/8ed50a0f-e6c2-4d2f-98d4-bed62f26e9e5?fit=crop&format=auto&h=67&w=100&s=4e5299ceb9ca601762fb785be25466a14e28f20d 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 1365\"><figcaption class=\"image-figcaption hyperion-css-1ksg4fz\" data-test-tag=\"image:caption\"><span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"image-caption\">En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege, svarer Asle Toje.</span><span class=\"image-byline hyperion-css-161dy2i\"> Foto: Dan P. Neegaard</span></figcaption></figure><p class=\"contentWidth hyperion-css-1mepuqa\" data-test-tag=\"lead-text\">Fastlege Mozzie Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet.</p><div class=\"paywall hyperion-css-h9wc15\" data-test-tag=\"timestamp\"><div><time aria-label=\"Publisert: 30.12.2025 10:29\" datetime=\"2025-12-30T09:29:59Z\" itemprop=\"datePublished\">Publisert: 30.12.2025 10:29</time></div></div><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\"><a aria-label=\"I et innlegg i Aftenposten beskriver fastlege Mozzie Marvati \" class=\"hyperion-css-1raymq9\" data-test-tag=\"internal-link\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/43q0RV/mozzie-marvati-jeg-er-sivilisasjonskollapsen-asle-toje-advarer-om\" rel=\"\" target=\"\" theme=\"opinion\">I et innlegg i Aftenposten beskriver fastlege Mozzie Marvati </a>sitt liv og virke i Norge på en måte som fortjener respekt. Det er ingen motsetning mellom hans biografi og mitt anliggende.</p><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">Problemet oppstår først når han gjør sin egen historie til et motargument mot en analyse som aldri handlet om ham.</p><div class=\"advertory-aftenposten-netboard-wrapper__article \"><div class=\"advertory-aftenposten-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_1\"></div></div><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">Jeg har ikke hevdet at innvandrere flest mangler lojalitet, at enkeltpersoner ikke bidrar, eller at norskhet er en blodlinje. Tvert imot har jeg eksplisitt avvist slike forståelser. <a aria-label=\"I et innlegg han refererer til\" class=\"hyperion-css-1raymq9\" data-test-tag=\"internal-link\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/WvbJrd/hva-er-det-vaare-ungdommer-skal-kjempe-for\" rel=\"\" target=\"\" theme=\"opinion\">I et innlegg han refererer til</a>.</p><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">Likevel er hele Marvatis tekst bygget på at jeg mener nettopp dette. Det er ikke en uenighet – det er å misforstå med vilje. Som ikke står ham til heder.</p><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">At Aftenposten refuserer innlegg som støtter meg og publiserer noe som dette, sier noe. Det er greit, jeg kan godt være den ene mot de mange.</p><h2 class=\"paywall hyperion-css-npxxyf\" data-test-tag=\"paragraph-header\">Vilkår for et fungerende demokrati</h2><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">At enkeltmennesker integreres godt, yter, forsvarer landet og lever fullt ut norske liv, sier lite om hvorvidt et samfunn som helhet lykkes med å opprettholde felles normer, språkkompetanse og institusjonell tillit over tid. Struktur kan ikke tilbakevises med biografi. En svale gjør ingen sommer – heller ikke 30 år som fastlege.</p><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">Når jeg skriver at «<a aria-label=\"svært mange ikke er norske i kulturell forstand\" class=\"hyperion-css-1raymq9\" data-test-tag=\"internal-link\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/8pmm5G/asle-toje-vil-norge-overleve-det-som-kommer\" rel=\"\" target=\"\" theme=\"opinion\">svært mange ikke er norske i kulturell forstand</a>», sikter jeg ikke til innsatsvilje, moral eller menneskeverd, men til kjennskap til felles referanser, institusjoner og normer.</p><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">Dette er forutsetninger også majoriteten må vedlikeholde. Å påpeke dette er ikke å trekke opp en uoppnåelig terskel, men å beskrive et faktisk vilkår for et fungerende demokrati.</p><h2 class=\"paywall hyperion-css-npxxyf\" data-test-tag=\"paragraph-header\">Allerede svakt</h2><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet. Det som skaper mistanke, er uklare forventninger og manglende begrepsavklaring.</p><div class=\"advertory-aftenposten-netboard-wrapper__article \"><div class=\"advertory-aftenposten-netboard__article\" id=\"brandboard\"></div></div><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">Et fellesskap som ikke kan beskrives uten at noen føler seg personlig mistenkeliggjort, er allerede svakt.</p><div class=\"opinion extendedContent paywall hyperion-css-15ic3dq\"><blockquote class=\"hyperion-css-qsvb07\" data-test-tag=\"blockquote\">Et fellesskap som ikke kan beskrives uten at noen føler seg personlig mistenkeliggjort, er allerede svakt</blockquote></div><p class=\"paywall hyperion-css-1j42uic\">Norge er hverken bare en idé eller bare institusjoner. Det er også et historisk og sosialt fellesskap som må bæres, læres og fornyes. Å si dette er ikke ekskluderende. Det er ansvarlig.</p><h2 class=\"paywall hyperion-css-npxxyf\" data-test-tag=\"paragraph-header\">Flere bidrag i denne debatten:</h2></article><div class=\"paywall hyperion-css-10ge17e\" id=\"widget-recirculation-matrix-inline\"><div class=\"bundle hyperion-css-6nuwex\"><ol class=\"hyperion-css-1700tdj\"><li class=\"hyperion-css-1sdqocr\"><a aria-label=\"Asle Toje: Vil Norge overleve det som kommer? \" class=\"imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-small:link-internal\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/8pmm5G/asle-toje-vil-norge-overleve-det-som-kommer\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1gd6fuo\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-tsqfh8\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"106px\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=2d059ec1eff70dc8a7bc06346144c01d075fffad\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=2d059ec1eff70dc8a7bc06346144c01d075fffad 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=2e27daff6ab051ed7b47c7a9ca2f786391601baf 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=b9a748f74c4b1f0d76aa5e56dd06aad39b4b1580 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=fe4e8245693f32d90097f04c14de966e7d1bd90a 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=7462d6240ef59bd30d128aedf1f6e1a0f2addcc9 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=8f3caccacd1b94eec9c4cb70e79f420baf4c2267 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=cd9da13696ff2a7ab5e78b62090f3bdf8f702b59 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=a1e1355cd3cbc414f50875fe4fc506e9e1bf8395 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/ee4bafbc-ca2c-4854-9808-16d4d74f98fb?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=42cd3c7ccb6068e3254a9d7721bbfd482995f236 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-djqnd\">Les også</div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-b9tnbt\">Asle Toje: Vil Norge overleve det som kommer? </h2></div></div></a></li><li class=\"hyperion-css-1sdqocr\"><a aria-label=\"Mustafa Can: Asle Tojes lojalitetslaboratorium\" class=\"imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-small:link-internal\" href=\"/meninger/kronikk/i/3pJpnd/asle-tojes-lojalitetslaboratorium\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1gd6fuo\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-1okcitd\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"106px\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=3662a42829e7b5aa6681b26be3acaeb54f8eb89d\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=3662a42829e7b5aa6681b26be3acaeb54f8eb89d 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=7056b5de99e41f0dc883c2eeb76dc627930f0600 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=1981f5c3fce43f20eb36fa0722c614711dcd8a8f 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=7c35a60773c6671a9ebcf1f665f590005844a33a 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=171169c18dd9da18f987d210391acb9d24951b74 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=8903471c91d4b53d94cb7d54c0e46b07affc16e9 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=159d9966fb30e1402882e0de7544f6b8a2997c84 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=f78ccb3d94e448e846413b54384509d79524e6bc 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e2e70026-425e-4862-a95d-086aa6855df2?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=128e80ac952b76555d0a5943599db1c8719106f7 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-djqnd\">Les også</div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-b9tnbt\">Mustafa Can: Asle Tojes lojalitetslaboratorium</h2></div></div></a></li><li class=\"hyperion-css-1sdqocr\"><a aria-label=\"Asle Toje: Hva er det våre ungdommer skal kjempe for?\" class=\"imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-small:link-internal\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/WvbJrd/hva-er-det-vaare-ungdommer-skal-kjempe-for\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1gd6fuo\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-16f8sqc\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"106px\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=70e83b9abe569c9b5ed99e184c68a375a50e511a\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=70e83b9abe569c9b5ed99e184c68a375a50e511a 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=67b5c181d60131115f5aa2ee71a72bf244f00e6b 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=62e284e8b0f6c604c843a70f2e79efa0e7e97517 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=bfc585a36a8784184a3ac1537878d70b90f077d6 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=0a90ecd3f096e18a70bb74c4ca9648cad758ab58 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=4f0e3c0fe3c378040507a371445d51adadc94bda 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=6442f252bd6dfc2aa79621d416e13cccf77de48c 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=9f7b49fe46404a9522d8fb829f146150eae28deb 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/22d55b3b-01ec-4e6d-9977-704298435e09?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=c926fb4c9769854827d89887af3d8e0b7338a26d 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-djqnd\">Les også</div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-b9tnbt\">Asle Toje: Hva er det våre ungdommer skal kjempe for?</h2></div></div></a></li><li class=\"hyperion-css-1sdqocr\"><a aria-label=\"Mozzie Marvati: Jeg er sivilisasjonskollapsen Asle Toje advarer om\" class=\"imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-small:link-internal\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/43q0RV/mozzie-marvati-jeg-er-sivilisasjonskollapsen-asle-toje-advarer-om\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1gd6fuo\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-19ve8al\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"106px\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&tight=true&w=1920&s=e5defd8b8db326310b195ff75bf6bcbcb708e7be\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&tight=true&w=1920&s=e5defd8b8db326310b195ff75bf6bcbcb708e7be 1920w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=6b72c82500280a7d8ded6841e0cde549ee2c3907 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=046f750acba126f8e111a343f5191904b743d258 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=735fc01983e2b8539c7ba89e7723bbc76736723f 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=a7d3ed8958a12094c8abfd77c95542284e966ab8 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=f450e9b0ca55b8f74a2c6b8892920b4274f43c67 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=0625351ea17176246fdc7b3deeb4a8820bf8cc2a 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=caa5998389a67251bfbfd94ae1c9f21d08d4b833 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/d47b6b8b-aaf2-4ca3-8803-8e2af0fa6a3e?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=376de335b62095ef5866fd48819cbb171b6899d3 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:1920 / 1440\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-djqnd\">Les også</div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-b9tnbt\">Mozzie Marvati: Jeg er sivilisasjonskollapsen Asle Toje advarer om</h2></div></div></a></li><li class=\"hyperion-css-1sdqocr\"><a aria-label=\"Hilde Sandvik: Ti spørsmål til Asle Toje\" class=\"imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-small:link-internal\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/e78XvO/ti-spoersmaal-til-asle-toje\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1gd6fuo\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-1m3irxy\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"106px\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=749&tight=true&w=998&s=7de02202976b37f7b7060756fdcb0e717a382c4e\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=749&tight=true&w=998&s=7de02202976b37f7b7060756fdcb0e717a382c4e 998w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=780c975e70ad6a971059867a46ac1020f8bc6e14 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=53ae4898408b2fab56144d226d5c97e1153725f5 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=26a6eec1157c0d5e46981e03e80e815318fde66e 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=7b66fffacac23b01822e988ef214f7e8de3639af 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=1886147d195721d329379a4419c372940ba8befa 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/e3632988-714b-484f-9587-e5578b73389f?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=21beb1cc2adc63f403103999c7ea87d5b5192889 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:998 / 749\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-djqnd\">Les også</div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-b9tnbt\">Hilde Sandvik: Ti spørsmål til Asle Toje</h2></div></div></a></li><li class=\"hyperion-css-1sdqocr\"><a aria-label=\"Bengt Andersen: «Det usynlige stoffet», som Asle Toje skriver om, virker å ha reell betydning\" class=\"imagePosition-right recipe-small hyperion-css-yvqgh2\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-small:link-internal\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/2pGXRq/det-usynlige-stoffet-som-asle-toje-skriver-om-virker-aa-ha-reell-betydning\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1gd6fuo\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-1vrsc0j\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"106px\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=0e29d13cc78191aa28de7c1a8518bad8c579c4f9\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&tight=true&w=2048&s=0e29d13cc78191aa28de7c1a8518bad8c579c4f9 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&tight=true&w=1440&s=ea996a9067cc8cef9510e48ca7fc68060769da0f 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&tight=true&w=1024&s=c3b4e6553f1eb9a70f0ee8ff680cb1f4d5efdaba 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&tight=true&w=980&s=162c237be112b02f57b755b93f12d8581f848547 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&tight=true&w=780&s=248bc3b074135e67a1820a98304ed54c28887fae 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&tight=true&w=580&s=dfb383cd7311ce8add11edfb2a7cf02d52305514 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&tight=true&w=380&s=6305977742b5c5b92b9d225ccefb4bfa50cc2ff3 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&tight=true&w=200&s=9ed8199a0aecfb974d3e51558d149ff81f74ed23 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/6e8fdf56-697a-4309-b6fe-6e21494b2b18?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&tight=true&w=100&s=a412bc09b1c92b25c1cbe716f00eb268a3ac4b07 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-djqnd\">Les også</div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1xjdxia\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-b9tnbt\">Bengt Andersen: «Det usynlige stoffet», som Asle Toje skriver om, virker å ha reell betydning</h2></div></div></a></li></ol></div></div><div class=\"advertory-brandmetrics-survey\" id=\"brandmetrics-survey\"></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1lkfsxc\"><button aria-label=\"Vis kommentarer\" class=\"hyperion-css-1q6qqhb\" title=\"Vis kommentarer\" type=\"button\"> <!-- -->Vis<!-- --> <!-- -->kommentarer</button></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1yxx8oe\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1jbnpry\"><button aria-label=\"Kopier URL til utklippstavle\" class=\"hyperion-css-pdsgro\" title=\"Kopier URL til utklippstavle\" type=\"button\">Kopier lenke</button><a aria-label=\"Tips oss\" class=\"hyperion-css-1f62hkp\" data-test-tag=\"internal-link\" href=\"/tips\" rel=\"\" target=\"\">Tips oss</a></div></div><div class=\"extendedContent paywall hyperion-css-177q39v\" id=\"widget-recirculation-matrix\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-r57xc5\" data-test-tag=\"widget:title\">Les videre</h2><div class=\"bundle extendedContent hyperion-css-cbecqi\"><ol class=\"hyperion-css-1700tdj\"><li class=\"hyperion-css-1lcs599\"><a aria-label=\"Ifølge Asle Tojes logikk er jeg et symptom på Norges forfall. La meg fortelle hvordan dette «forfallet» ser ut fra min side.\" class=\"imagePosition-top medium opinion-teaser hyperion-css-bvr9ut\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-medium:link-internal\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/43q0RV/mozzie-marvati-jeg-er-sivilisasjonskollapsen-asle-toje-advarer-om\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1k8sl4j\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-185p2iv\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"(min-width: 981px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&w=1920&s=b4662b90fa167d80f9986b6f2e9e3104ca7834a9\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1440&w=1920&s=b4662b90fa167d80f9986b6f2e9e3104ca7834a9 1920w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&w=1440&s=a421f9cb046179b7e1f2062cd3584ee35fdda14c 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&w=1024&s=19b949b5a1443b82a1bdbb89692863f2c25b22d6 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&w=980&s=006150b185d445af145ab3f123e534c8091c70bb 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&w=780&s=3ef54957c0e68bd65800857fcbe5e2d32c4f6cc9 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&w=580&s=757a1b9c1d451ba427987b6e7e1929024830ea00 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&w=380&s=c9c78b75118905aae3eff5987d7fe5ea8813f1a8 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&w=200&s=5bcf3f02f8e552614c21191ab71165eb49163e96 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/a220406c-bb04-469b-81f3-7cd9c3de9d7c?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&w=100&s=9b6dc048d21fe3cdfe13d79333d0520d24608025 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:1920 / 1440\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"teaser-label hyperion-css-52yh2p\">DEBATT<div class=\"timestamp friendly hyperion-css-10eh1jy\" data-test-tag=\"timestamp\"><span class=\"hyperion-css-ea91rp\">Publisert:</span><div><time aria-label=\"2025-12-29T14:00:42Z\" datetime=\"2025-12-29T14:00:42Z\" itemprop=\"datePublished\" pubdate=\"pubdate\">I går 15:00</time></div></div></div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1ucd1we\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-1hyuqep\">Ifølge Asle Tojes logikk er jeg et symptom på Norges forfall. La meg fortelle hvordan dette «forfallet» ser ut fra min side.</h2></div></div></a></li><li class=\"hyperion-css-1lcs599\"><a aria-label=\"Hva er det våre ungdommer skal kjempe for?\" class=\"imagePosition-top medium opinion-teaser hyperion-css-bvr9ut\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-medium:link-internal\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/WvbJrd/hva-er-det-vaare-ungdommer-skal-kjempe-for\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1k8sl4j\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-1099xn\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"(min-width: 981px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=0346cc3da9e168fc04503fef9d4c1595572c5af8\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=0346cc3da9e168fc04503fef9d4c1595572c5af8 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&w=1440&s=654122b3a745081e439b5bc7c33594b600b93810 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&w=1024&s=410bd58c27281cf550819767d342bf1b6815558c 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&w=980&s=b7816fb4427e24c7c05be368b97cfb768fc75015 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&w=780&s=352829fb19795da8689639e46f0890e21165f535 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&w=580&s=07395e8894aea57d10c6182dcf55ff136baddf96 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&w=380&s=1693b698020fb4c276c933d36e8bae6d5ae4d698 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&w=200&s=4de205f65abdc7fbe756b716aadc00dc78cf40d7 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/4f7fb984-969a-413b-8716-0e3012551f34?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&w=100&s=a56a657329b91b617325da708303233abdda79fc 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"teaser-label hyperion-css-52yh2p\">DEBATT<div class=\"timestamp friendly hyperion-css-10eh1jy\" data-test-tag=\"timestamp\"><span class=\"hyperion-css-ea91rp\">Publisert:</span><div><time aria-label=\"2025-12-27T16:27:26Z\" datetime=\"2025-12-27T16:27:26Z\" itemprop=\"datePublished\" pubdate=\"pubdate\">27. desember</time></div></div></div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1ucd1we\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-1hyuqep\">Hva er det våre ungdommer skal kjempe for?</h2></div></div></a></li><li class=\"hyperion-css-1lcs599\"><div class=\"advertory-aftenposten-netboard-wrapper \"><div class=\"advertory-aftenposten-netboard\" id=\"netboard_recirc\"></div></div></li><li class=\"hyperion-css-1lcs599\"><a aria-label=\"Problemet med antisemittisme er størst blant de nye aktivistene\" class=\"imagePosition-top medium opinion-teaser hyperion-css-bvr9ut\" data-test-tag=\"teaser-medium:link-internal\" href=\"/meninger/debatt/i/JO1mAR/de-nye-aktivistene\" rel=\"\" target=\"\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-bjn8wh\"><div class=\"hyperion-css-1k8sl4j\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"image-asset hyperion-css-jj0wlk\" data-test-tag=\"image-asset\" fetchpriority=\"auto\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"(min-width: 981px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=a1b75539e559f3e6cc1caeff4e87ad805e039e1a\" srcset=\"https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1536&w=2048&s=a1b75539e559f3e6cc1caeff4e87ad805e039e1a 2048w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=1080&w=1440&s=8a77c7392f88c59079fb2e25a94499b8aa4ee85d 1440w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=768&w=1024&s=75e17e7a1e67f59a8865c39ca2b6d1d24cf047bc 1024w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=735&w=980&s=9b8e2539ca836d6ebf100f14823281e16f761618 980w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=585&w=780&s=92d00f55ad7de30eaa6c13da3549b8df1ac77a1f 780w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=435&w=580&s=9e460dc787c23876c6397a38995c7cec9db893b7 580w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=285&w=380&s=68be23af4044c4d4fbd54617386e9c5cec2d130c 380w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=150&w=200&s=3d7ba3efc55d4176bb631a39d75fc25cc016c8e3 200w,https://premium.vgc.no/v2/images/c84d9d87-d9d7-40f1-a2fe-4aa430ba74c7?fit=crop&format=auto&h=75&w=100&s=d568402368e04951a8a323425b017a96d9acd9fd 100w\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2048 / 1536\"></div></div><div class=\"hyperion-css-1hlrz9z\"><div class=\"teaser-label hyperion-css-52yh2p\">DEBATT<div class=\"timestamp friendly hyperion-css-10eh1jy\" data-test-tag=\"timestamp\"><span class=\"hyperion-css-ea91rp\">Publisert:</span><div><time aria-label=\"2025-12-16T15:05:45Z\" datetime=\"2025-12-16T15:05:45Z\" itemprop=\"datePublished\" pubdate=\"pubdate\">16. desember</time></div></div></div><div class=\"opinion hyperion-css-1ucd1we\"><h2 class=\"hyperion-css-1hyuqep\">Problemet med antisemittisme er størst blant de nye aktivistene</h2></div></div></a></li></ol></div></div><div class=\"extendedContent paywall hyperion-css-1wv24dq\" 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"summary" : "Det som skaper mistanke, er uklare forventninger, skriver Asle Toje.",
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"title" : "Fastlege Mozzie Marvati hevder jeg sår «kronisk mistanke». Det motsatte er tilfellet.",
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