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â Ukraina er pĂ„ vei til Ă„ vinne krigen mot Russland, sier Finlands president Alexander Stubb.
Iskald vind sniker seg rundt gatehjĂžrnene i Helsingfors. Fjorden er like frosset som Finlands forhold til Russland.
Isbrytere jobber dag og natt for Ä holde rÄker Äpne for skipstrafikken som forbinder hovedstaden med omverdenen.
Innerst i havnen ligger presidentpalasset. Der inne sitter Alexander Stubb (57) og forteller VG om hvordan isen kan brytes, og en ny verdensorden kan utformes.
Og hvorfor han mener at Russland er i ferd med Ă„ tape krigen i Ukraina.
Mistet Karelen
Stubbs farmor og farfar var fÞdt i Karelen, som ble sovjetisk territorium i 1944 etter utmattende krigsÄr. Finland mÄtte ogsÄ betale enorme belÞp i krigserstatning til Moskva, og ble tvunget til et rettsoppgjÞr.
Finlands tidligere president Risto Ryti ble dĂžmt til 10 Ă„rs fengsel.
â Vi fikk beholde vĂ„r selvstendighet, men vi tapte vĂ„r suverenitet, sier Stubb.
â Sovjetunionen dikterte vilkĂ„rene: I starten fikk vi ikke vĂŠre med i Nordisk rĂ„d, i FN eller i EFTA.
Fire Ă„r med krig
Tirsdag 24. februar er det fire Är siden russiske stridsvogner rullet mot Kyiv. Etter krigens fÞrste fase har Russland i liten grad lyktes med Ä erobre mer av Ukrainas landareal. De siste mÄnedene har Putin gjort alt han kan for Ä fryse ut befolkningen.
â Kan det vĂŠre en lĂžsning for Ukraina, Ă„ gi bort areal i bytte med fred slik Finland mĂ„tte i 1944?
â Ut fra vĂ„r historie, forstĂ„r finnene det som holder pĂ„ Ă„ skje i Ukraina. Men Ukraina er i en langt bedre situasjon en Finland var i, forklarer han.
â Ukraina har ikke tapt denne krigen, slĂ„r Stubb fast.
â Det er Russland som har tapt, bĂ„de militĂŠrt, strategisk og Ăžkonomisk. Selv om Russland kontrollerer 20 prosent av Ukrainas areal, har de bare klart Ă„ ta ytterligere en prosent de to siste Ă„rene. 65.000 russiske soldater dĂžde bare i desember og januar. Da forstĂ„r du at Russland ikke kan vinne denne krigen. Ukraina vil ogsĂ„ fĂ„ sikkerhetsgarantier fra USA og Europa. Det hadde ikke Finland i 1944. Vi sto helt alene, sier den finske presidenten.
FN-reformer
Vi snakket ogsÄ med den finske presidenten om golf-runden som ga en unik tilgang til USAs president.
Han skal i tillegg fortelle mer om det nĂŠre vennskapet med Jonas Gahr StĂžre.
Men fÞrst: Alexander Stubb mener at FN mÄ reformeres. Ett av forslagene er at stormaktene mÄ oppgi sin vetorett i FNs sikkerhetsrÄd, og landene i sÞr mÄ fÄ mer Ä si.
â Jeg kaller det for verdibasert realisme, sier Stubb.
Det har han skrevet en bok om. «En ny verdensorden» er nÄ ute pÄ norsk.
Optimist av natur
â VĂ„re nordiske verdier som frihet, sikkerhet, menneskerettigheter og demokrati mĂ„ ligge fast. Men for Ă„ lĂžse verdens stĂžrste problemer som handler om klima, konflikter, energi og teknologi, da mĂ„ du samarbeide med land som ikke har de samme verdiene, fortsetter han.
â Tror du virkelig at de fem faste medlemmene av SikkerhetsrĂ„det vil gi opp sin vetorett?
â Det vet jeg ikke. Men om man er optimist av natur, sĂ„ mĂ„ man i det minste forsĂžke Ă„ tenke nytt, sier Stubb.
Maktens triangel
I boken beskriver Stubb «maktens triangel»: Tre ideologier som han kaller det globale vest, det globale sÞr og det globale Þst. Samspillet mellom dem vil pÄvirke den nye verdensordenen.
â Vi ser at verden er i endring, men vi vet ennĂ„ ikke hvor den er pĂ„ vei. I boken argumenterer jeg for at det vil gĂ„ noen Ă„r, kanskje til 2030, fĂžr en ny verdensorden kommer pĂ„ plass. Akkurat nĂ„ er vi i en periode hvor mektige aktĂžrer prĂžver Ă„ posisjonere seg der det finnes maktvakuum. Kina gjĂžr det, og Trumps nye fredsforum har ambisjoner om Ă„ gjĂžre det, sier han.
Kampen stÄr nÄ mellom to motstridende ideologier, ifÞlge Stubb: «Jalta» eller «Helsingfors».
Fra krise til lĂžsning
Stubb argumenterer for at krisene i verden har tĂžmret de europeiske landene mye tettere sammen. Han beskriver EU-samarbeidet i tre typiske faser:
â FĂžrst er det krise, sĂ„ kaos â men sĂ„ finner vi en lĂžsning alle kan leve med, forklarer han.
Han ramser opp:
Brexit dro de europeiske landene tettere sammen. SÄ kom covid, krigen i Ukraina, og energikrisen som landene samarbeidet om Ä lÞse. Legg til sikkerhetstrusselen fra Russland, og «et visst trykk fra USA», som Stubb beskriver.
Den han snakker mest med
Stubbs nĂŠrmeste samtalepartner i Europa er imidlertid ikke medlem i EU:
â Skal jeg trekke fram den europeiske lederen som jeg har mest kommunikasjon med, sĂ„ er det Jonas Gahr StĂžre, sier han.
StÞre har ogsÄ bekreftet den tette kontakten med president Stubb. De snakker sammen eller utveksler SMS-er omtrent hver eneste dag.
â Hvordan kan Norge vĂŠre pĂ„ innsiden av de store beslutningene i Europa uten Ă„ vĂŠre medlem i EU?
â EU-medlemskapet er en beslutning Norge selv mĂ„ ta, selv om jeg personlig skulle Ăžnske at Storbritannia Island og Norge var med. Men som Nato-medlem er Norge en stor aktĂžr i saker om sikkerhet, og spesielt om Arktis.
â Hva har Norge Ă„ legge pĂ„ bordet, i tillegg til olje og gass, for Ă„ bli hĂžrt?
â Mye handler om personlighet. Jonas er svĂŠrt aktiv i utenriks- og sikkerhetspolitikken. Den interessen har vi begge som tidligere utenriksministre. Norge bidrar med Ăžkt sikkerhet for oss som nytt medlem i Nato. NĂ„ samarbeider Finland, Sverige og Norge mye tettere om forsvar.
SMS til Trump
SĂžndag 18. januar sendte StĂžre og Stubb en felles tekstmelding til Donald Trump. De ramset opp uenighet om GrĂžnland, Gaza, Ukraina og straffetoll, og ba om et snarlig mĂžte.
27 minutter senere fikk StÞre svar fra Trump, som den amerikanske presidenten publiserte i sosiale medier: Ettersom Norge ikke ga Trump Nobels fredspris, var Trump ikke lengre forpliktet til Ä tenke fred alltid. Trump gjentok ogsÄ kravet om Ä overgi GrÞnland til USA.
â Jeg fikk den nĂžyaktig samme meldingen. Det sto «Dear Jonas» pĂ„ min ogsĂ„, bekrefter Stubb.
â Vi melder ofte med Trump, og vi gjĂžr det sammen. Vi sender felles meldinger til andre europeiske ledere, til Ukrainas president Zelenskyj, forteller han.
Alexander Stubb har ytterligere en relasjon til Donald Trump som StĂžre ikke har.
Golf-mĂžtet
I sin ungdom var Stubb pÄ Finlands ungdomslandslag i golf. 29. mars i fjor gikk Stubb og Trump ut pÄ Trump International Golf Club i Florida.
â Jeg fikk syv timer pĂ„ tomannshĂ„nd med USAs president, mer enn alle mine forgjengere til sammen. Jeg skal ikke overvurdere min relasjon med presidenten, men jeg mener det var vel anvendt tid.
De var et team pÄ fem og spilte «best ball», hvor de to beste scorene pÄ hvert hull talte. De vekslet mellom Ä score par og birdies. I en turnering med rundt 30 team, vant laget med de to presidentene.
â Hva fikk du og Finland igjen for det?
â I ettertid tekster vi, vi ringes og vi diskuterer. Jeg tror det har vĂŠrt nyttig ved at vi etterpĂ„ har solgt 11 isbrytere til USA. Det er lett Ă„ glemme at diplomati egentlig har to ben. Det ene er det mellomstatlige forholdet, interessebasert ut fra makt, kultur og historie. Det andre er personlig. Som Finlands president er det min jobb Ă„ ha et bra forhold til USAs president. Om jeg lanserer 10 ideer og han tar en av dem, da har jeg lyktes.
Sier fra
â PĂ„ grunn av ditt golfspill, er Finland pĂ„ et bedre sted enn andre europeiske land?
â Vi har et omfattende forsvarssamarbeid med USA, basert pĂ„ gjensidig interesse. Andre saker vurderer vi ulikt: Vi tror pĂ„ EU, pĂ„ en liberal verdensorden, og pĂ„ klimatrusselen. Jeg sier fra om at vi er uenig om straffetoll. Samtidig er det i USAs interesse Ă„ trene soldater i Arktis, Ă„ samarbeide om teknologi fordi store deler av deres mobile nettverk er levert av Nokia, og Ă„ samarbeide om sjeldne mineraler.
â Er det rom for kritikk?
â Jeg er helt Ă„pen om at vi har et annet syn enn Trump i mange saker, som EU og klima. Derfor fungerer det. Jeg sender de samme analysene til Trump: Vi er hjertelig uenig med deg om straffetoll, for eksempel. USAs sikkerhetspolitikk er ogsĂ„ endret. Det er ikke lenger en-til-en med oss i Europa.
Trump-hviskeren
I et VG-intervju i 2024 fortalte Stubbs forgjenger Sauli Niinistö om sine samtaler med Vladimir Putin, og hvordan han ble lÞyet for i tiden fÞr Putin beordret invasjonen i Ukraina.
Niinistö ble kalt Putin-hviskeren. Stubb omtales nÄ som Trump-hviskeren.
â Hva slags kontakt har du med Putin?
â Vi har ikke snakket sammen siden jeg ble president for to Ă„r siden. Finske myndigheter har kontakt pĂ„ lavere nivĂ„er med Russland om grensespĂžrsmĂ„l og annet praktisk.
â Vil du kunne ha tillit til Putin etter Ukraina-krigen?
â VĂ„r 1340 kilometer grense mot Russland, den gĂ„r ikke over. Ă bygge tillit med Russland igjen kan ta flere tiĂ„r. Da er muligens dagens russiske ledere erstattet, og vi kan ikke vite hvordan de vil forholde seg til Finland.
â Mange spĂ„r en massiv russisk opprustning mot Nato nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen tar slutt?
â I vĂ„r analyse er det selvsagt at vi vil ha flere russiske soldater nĂŠrt vĂ„re grenser nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen er over. Det er ikke noe nytt. Men Russland vet hvor sterkt vĂ„rt forsvar er. Russland vet at Finland er Nato-medlem, svarer han.
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Author: Alf Bjarne Johnsen
Published: 2026-02-24 05:03:52
Updated: 2026-02-23 22:47:20
Category: Nyheter
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â Ukraina er pĂ„ vei til Ă„ vinne krigen mot Russland, sier Finlands president Alexander Stubb.
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Iskald vind sniker seg rundt gatehjĂžrnene i Helsingfors. Fjorden er like frosset som Finlands forhold til Russland.
Isbrytere jobber dag og natt for Ä holde rÄker Äpne for skipstrafikken som forbinder hovedstaden med omverdenen.
Innerst i havnen ligger presidentpalasset. Der inne sitter Alexander Stubb (57) og forteller VG om hvordan isen kan brytes, og en ny verdensorden kan utformes.
Og hvorfor han mener at Russland er i ferd med Ă„ tape krigen i Ukraina.
Mistet Karelen
Stubbs farmor og farfar var fÞdt i Karelen, som ble sovjetisk territorium i 1944 etter utmattende krigsÄr. Finland mÄtte ogsÄ betale enorme belÞp i krigserstatning til Moskva, og ble tvunget til et rettsoppgjÞr.
Finlands tidligere president Risto Ryti ble dĂžmt til 10 Ă„rs fengsel.
â Vi fikk beholde vĂ„r selvstendighet, men vi tapte vĂ„r suverenitet, sier Stubb.
â Sovjetunionen dikterte vilkĂ„rene: I starten fikk vi ikke vĂŠre med i Nordisk rĂ„d, i FN eller i EFTA.
Fire Ă„r med krig
Tirsdag 24. februar er det fire Är siden russiske stridsvogner rullet mot Kyiv. Etter krigens fÞrste fase har Russland i liten grad lyktes med Ä erobre mer av Ukrainas landareal. De siste mÄnedene har Putin gjort alt han kan for Ä fryse ut befolkningen.
â Kan det vĂŠre en lĂžsning for Ukraina, Ă„ gi bort areal i bytte med fred slik Finland mĂ„tte i 1944?
â Ut fra vĂ„r historie, forstĂ„r finnene det som holder pĂ„ Ă„ skje i Ukraina. Men Ukraina er i en langt bedre situasjon en Finland var i, forklarer han.
â Ukraina har ikke tapt denne krigen, slĂ„r Stubb fast.
â Det er Russland som har tapt, bĂ„de militĂŠrt, strategisk og Ăžkonomisk. Selv om Russland kontrollerer 20 prosent av Ukrainas areal, har de bare klart Ă„ ta ytterligere en prosent de to siste Ă„rene. 65.000 russiske soldater dĂžde bare i desember og januar. Da forstĂ„r du at Russland ikke kan vinne denne krigen. Ukraina vil ogsĂ„ fĂ„ sikkerhetsgarantier fra USA og Europa. Det hadde ikke Finland i 1944. Vi sto helt alene, sier den finske presidenten.
FN-reformer
Vi snakket ogsÄ med den finske presidenten om golf-runden som ga en unik tilgang til USAs president.
Han skal i tillegg fortelle mer om det nĂŠre vennskapet med Jonas Gahr StĂžre.
Men fÞrst: Alexander Stubb mener at FN mÄ reformeres. Ett av forslagene er at stormaktene mÄ oppgi sin vetorett i FNs sikkerhetsrÄd, og landene i sÞr mÄ fÄ mer Ä si.
â Jeg kaller det for verdibasert realisme, sier Stubb.
Det har han skrevet en bok om. «En ny verdensorden» er nÄ ute pÄ norsk.
Optimist av natur
â VĂ„re nordiske verdier som frihet, sikkerhet, menneskerettigheter og demokrati mĂ„ ligge fast. Men for Ă„ lĂžse verdens stĂžrste problemer som handler om klima, konflikter, energi og teknologi, da mĂ„ du samarbeide med land som ikke har de samme verdiene, fortsetter han.
â Tror du virkelig at de fem faste medlemmene av SikkerhetsrĂ„det vil gi opp sin vetorett?
â Det vet jeg ikke. Men om man er optimist av natur, sĂ„ mĂ„ man i det minste forsĂžke Ă„ tenke nytt, sier Stubb.
Maktens triangel
I boken beskriver Stubb «maktens triangel»: Tre ideologier som han kaller det globale vest, det globale sÞr og det globale Þst. Samspillet mellom dem vil pÄvirke den nye verdensordenen.
â Vi ser at verden er i endring, men vi vet ennĂ„ ikke hvor den er pĂ„ vei. I boken argumenterer jeg for at det vil gĂ„ noen Ă„r, kanskje til 2030, fĂžr en ny verdensorden kommer pĂ„ plass. Akkurat nĂ„ er vi i en periode hvor mektige aktĂžrer prĂžver Ă„ posisjonere seg der det finnes maktvakuum. Kina gjĂžr det, og Trumps nye fredsforum har ambisjoner om Ă„ gjĂžre det, sier han.
Kampen stÄr nÄ mellom to motstridende ideologier, ifÞlge Stubb: «Jalta» eller «Helsingfors».
Fra krise til lĂžsning
Stubb argumenterer for at krisene i verden har tĂžmret de europeiske landene mye tettere sammen. Han beskriver EU-samarbeidet i tre typiske faser:
â FĂžrst er det krise, sĂ„ kaos â men sĂ„ finner vi en lĂžsning alle kan leve med, forklarer han.
Han ramser opp:
Brexit dro de europeiske landene tettere sammen. SÄ kom covid, krigen i Ukraina, og energikrisen som landene samarbeidet om Ä lÞse. Legg til sikkerhetstrusselen fra Russland, og «et visst trykk fra USA», som Stubb beskriver.
Den han snakker mest med
Stubbs nĂŠrmeste samtalepartner i Europa er imidlertid ikke medlem i EU:
â Skal jeg trekke fram den europeiske lederen som jeg har mest kommunikasjon med, sĂ„ er det Jonas Gahr StĂžre, sier han.
StÞre har ogsÄ bekreftet den tette kontakten med president Stubb. De snakker sammen eller utveksler SMS-er omtrent hver eneste dag.
â Hvordan kan Norge vĂŠre pĂ„ innsiden av de store beslutningene i Europa uten Ă„ vĂŠre medlem i EU?
â EU-medlemskapet er en beslutning Norge selv mĂ„ ta, selv om jeg personlig skulle Ăžnske at Storbritannia Island og Norge var med. Men som Nato-medlem er Norge en stor aktĂžr i saker om sikkerhet, og spesielt om Arktis.
â Hva har Norge Ă„ legge pĂ„ bordet, i tillegg til olje og gass, for Ă„ bli hĂžrt?
â Mye handler om personlighet. Jonas er svĂŠrt aktiv i utenriks- og sikkerhetspolitikken. Den interessen har vi begge som tidligere utenriksministre. Norge bidrar med Ăžkt sikkerhet for oss som nytt medlem i Nato. NĂ„ samarbeider Finland, Sverige og Norge mye tettere om forsvar.
SMS til Trump
SĂžndag 18. januar sendte StĂžre og Stubb en felles tekstmelding til Donald Trump. De ramset opp uenighet om GrĂžnland, Gaza, Ukraina og straffetoll, og ba om et snarlig mĂžte.
27 minutter senere fikk StÞre svar fra Trump, som den amerikanske presidenten publiserte i sosiale medier: Ettersom Norge ikke ga Trump Nobels fredspris, var Trump ikke lengre forpliktet til Ä tenke fred alltid. Trump gjentok ogsÄ kravet om Ä overgi GrÞnland til USA.
â Jeg fikk den nĂžyaktig samme meldingen. Det sto «Dear Jonas» pĂ„ min ogsĂ„, bekrefter Stubb.
â Vi melder ofte med Trump, og vi gjĂžr det sammen. Vi sender felles meldinger til andre europeiske ledere, til Ukrainas president Zelenskyj, forteller han.
Alexander Stubb har ytterligere en relasjon til Donald Trump som StĂžre ikke har.
Golf-mĂžtet
I sin ungdom var Stubb pÄ Finlands ungdomslandslag i golf. 29. mars i fjor gikk Stubb og Trump ut pÄ Trump International Golf Club i Florida.
â Jeg fikk syv timer pĂ„ tomannshĂ„nd med USAs president, mer enn alle mine forgjengere til sammen. Jeg skal ikke overvurdere min relasjon med presidenten, men jeg mener det var vel anvendt tid.
De var et team pÄ fem og spilte «best ball», hvor de to beste scorene pÄ hvert hull talte. De vekslet mellom Ä score par og birdies. I en turnering med rundt 30 team, vant laget med de to presidentene.
â Hva fikk du og Finland igjen for det?
â I ettertid tekster vi, vi ringes og vi diskuterer. Jeg tror det har vĂŠrt nyttig ved at vi etterpĂ„ har solgt 11 isbrytere til USA. Det er lett Ă„ glemme at diplomati egentlig har to ben. Det ene er det mellomstatlige forholdet, interessebasert ut fra makt, kultur og historie. Det andre er personlig. Som Finlands president er det min jobb Ă„ ha et bra forhold til USAs president. Om jeg lanserer 10 ideer og han tar en av dem, da har jeg lyktes.
Sier fra
â PĂ„ grunn av ditt golfspill, er Finland pĂ„ et bedre sted enn andre europeiske land?
â Vi har et omfattende forsvarssamarbeid med USA, basert pĂ„ gjensidig interesse. Andre saker vurderer vi ulikt: Vi tror pĂ„ EU, pĂ„ en liberal verdensorden, og pĂ„ klimatrusselen. Jeg sier fra om at vi er uenig om straffetoll. Samtidig er det i USAs interesse Ă„ trene soldater i Arktis, Ă„ samarbeide om teknologi fordi store deler av deres mobile nettverk er levert av Nokia, og Ă„ samarbeide om sjeldne mineraler.
â Er det rom for kritikk?
â Jeg er helt Ă„pen om at vi har et annet syn enn Trump i mange saker, som EU og klima. Derfor fungerer det. Jeg sender de samme analysene til Trump: Vi er hjertelig uenig med deg om straffetoll, for eksempel. USAs sikkerhetspolitikk er ogsĂ„ endret. Det er ikke lenger en-til-en med oss i Europa.
Trump-hviskeren
I et VG-intervju i 2024 fortalte Stubbs forgjenger Sauli Niinistö om sine samtaler med Vladimir Putin, og hvordan han ble lÞyet for i tiden fÞr Putin beordret invasjonen i Ukraina.
Niinistö ble kalt Putin-hviskeren. Stubb omtales nÄ som Trump-hviskeren.
â Hva slags kontakt har du med Putin?
â Vi har ikke snakket sammen siden jeg ble president for to Ă„r siden. Finske myndigheter har kontakt pĂ„ lavere nivĂ„er med Russland om grensespĂžrsmĂ„l og annet praktisk.
â Vil du kunne ha tillit til Putin etter Ukraina-krigen?
â VĂ„r 1340 kilometer grense mot Russland, den gĂ„r ikke over. Ă bygge tillit med Russland igjen kan ta flere tiĂ„r. Da er muligens dagens russiske ledere erstattet, og vi kan ikke vite hvordan de vil forholde seg til Finland.
â Mange spĂ„r en massiv russisk opprustning mot Nato nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen tar slutt?
â I vĂ„r analyse er det selvsagt at vi vil ha flere russiske soldater nĂŠrt vĂ„re grenser nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen er over. Det er ikke noe nytt. Men Russland vet hvor sterkt vĂ„rt forsvar er. Russland vet at Finland er Nato-medlem, svarer han.
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"content" : "Iskald vind sniker seg rundt gatehjĂžrnene i Helsingfors. Fjorden er like frosset som Finlands forhold til Russland.\n\nIsbrytere jobber dag og natt for Ă„ holde rĂ„ker Ă„pne for skipstrafikken som forbinder hovedstaden med omverdenen.\n\nInnerst i havnen ligger presidentpalasset. Der inne sitter [Alexander Stubb](/tag/alexander-stubb?utm_source=vg-article&utm_medium=auto-tagger&utm_campaign=0pGalM) \\(57\\) og forteller VG om hvordan isen kan brytes, og en ny verdensorden kan utformes.\n\nOg hvorfor han mener at Russland er i ferd med Ă„ tape krigen i Ukraina.\n\n## Mistet Karelen\n\nStubbs farmor og farfar var fĂždt i Karelen, som ble sovjetisk territorium i 1944 etter utmattende krigsĂ„r. Finland mĂ„tte ogsĂ„ betale enorme belĂžp i krigserstatning til Moskva, og ble tvunget til et rettsoppgjĂžr.\n\nFinlands tidligere president Risto Ryti ble dĂžmt til 10 Ă„rs fengsel.\n\n**â Vi fikk beholde vĂ„r selvstendighet, men vi tapte vĂ„r suverenitet, sier Stubb.**\n\nâ Sovjetunionen dikterte vilkĂ„rene: I starten fikk vi ikke vĂŠre med i Nordisk rĂ„d, i FN eller i EFTA.\n\n## Fire Ă„r med krig\n\nTirsdag 24. februar er det fire Ă„r siden russiske stridsvogner rullet mot Kyiv. Etter krigens fĂžrste fase har Russland i liten grad lyktes med Ă„ erobre mer av Ukrainas landareal. De siste mĂ„nedene har Putin gjort alt han kan for Ă„ fryse ut befolkningen.\n\n*â Kan det vĂŠre en lĂžsning for Ukraina, Ă„ gi bort areal i bytte med fred slik Finland mĂ„tte i 1944?*\n\nâ Ut fra vĂ„r historie, forstĂ„r finnene det som holder pĂ„ Ă„ skje i Ukraina. Men Ukraina er i en langt bedre situasjon en Finland var i, forklarer han.\n\n**â Ukraina har ikke tapt denne krigen, slĂ„r Stubb fast.**\n\nâ Det er Russland som har tapt, bĂ„de militĂŠrt, strategisk og Ăžkonomisk. Selv om Russland kontrollerer 20 prosent av Ukrainas areal, har de bare klart Ă„ ta ytterligere en prosent de to siste Ă„rene. 65.000 russiske soldater dĂžde bare i desember og januar. Da forstĂ„r du at Russland ikke kan vinne denne krigen. Ukraina vil ogsĂ„ fĂ„ sikkerhetsgarantier fra USA og Europa. Det hadde ikke Finland i 1944. Vi sto helt alene, sier den finske presidenten.\n\n## FN\\-reformer\n\n**Vi snakket ogsĂ„ med den finske presidenten om golf\\-runden som ga en unik tilgang til USAs president.**\n\n**Han skal i tillegg fortelle mer om det nĂŠre vennskapet med Jonas Gahr StĂžre.**\n\nMen fĂžrst: Alexander Stubb mener at FN mĂ„ reformeres. Ett av forslagene er at stormaktene mĂ„ oppgi sin vetorett i FNs sikkerhetsrĂ„d, og landene i sĂžr mĂ„ fĂ„ mer Ă„ si.\n\nâ Jeg kaller det for verdibasert realisme, sier Stubb.\n\nDet har han skrevet en bok om. «En ny verdensorden» er nĂ„ ute pĂ„ norsk.\n\n## Optimist av natur\n\nâ VĂ„re nordiske verdier som frihet, sikkerhet, menneskerettigheter og demokrati mĂ„ ligge fast. Men for Ă„ lĂžse verdens stĂžrste problemer som handler om klima, konflikter, energi og teknologi, da mĂ„ du samarbeide med land som ikke har de samme verdiene, fortsetter han.\n\n*â Tror du virkelig at de fem faste medlemmene av SikkerhetsrĂ„det vil gi opp sin vetorett?*\n\nâ Det vet jeg ikke. Men om man er optimist av natur, sĂ„ mĂ„ man i det minste forsĂžke Ă„ tenke nytt, sier Stubb.\n\n## Maktens triangel\n\nI boken beskriver Stubb «maktens triangel»: Tre ideologier som han kaller det globale vest, det globale sĂžr og det globale Ăžst. Samspillet mellom dem vil pĂ„virke den nye verdensordenen.\n\nâ Vi ser at verden er i endring, men vi vet ennĂ„ ikke hvor den er pĂ„ vei. I boken argumenterer jeg for at det vil gĂ„ noen Ă„r, kanskje til 2030, fĂžr en ny verdensorden kommer pĂ„ plass. Akkurat nĂ„ er vi i en periode hvor mektige aktĂžrer prĂžver Ă„ posisjonere seg der det finnes maktvakuum. Kina gjĂžr det, og Trumps nye fredsforum har ambisjoner om Ă„ gjĂžre det, sier han.\n\nKampen stĂ„r nĂ„ mellom to motstridende ideologier, ifĂžlge Stubb: «Jalta» eller «Helsingfors».\n\n## Fra krise til lĂžsning\n\nStubb argumenterer for at krisene i verden har tĂžmret de europeiske landene mye tettere sammen. Han beskriver EU\\-samarbeidet i tre typiske faser:\n\nâ FĂžrst er det krise, sĂ„ kaos â men sĂ„ finner vi en lĂžsning alle kan leve med, forklarer han.\n\nHan ramser opp:\n\n[Brexit ](/nyheter/i/aAMbd/slik-splitter-brexit-storbritannia)dro de europeiske landene tettere sammen. SĂ„ kom covid, krigen i Ukraina, og energikrisen som landene samarbeidet om Ă„ lĂžse. Legg til sikkerhetstrusselen fra Russland, og «et visst trykk fra USA», som Stubb beskriver.\n\n## Den han snakker mest med\n\n**Stubbs nĂŠrmeste samtalepartner i Europa er imidlertid ikke medlem i EU:**\n\nâ Skal jeg trekke fram den europeiske lederen som jeg har mest kommunikasjon med, sĂ„ er det Jonas Gahr StĂžre, sier han.\n\nStĂžre har ogsĂ„ bekreftet den tette kontakten med president Stubb. De snakker sammen eller utveksler SMS\\-er omtrent hver eneste dag.\n\n*â Hvordan kan Norge vĂŠre pĂ„ innsiden av de store beslutningene i Europa uten Ă„ vĂŠre medlem i EU?*\n\nâ EU\\-medlemskapet er en beslutning Norge selv mĂ„ ta, selv om jeg personlig skulle Ăžnske at Storbritannia Island og Norge var med. Men som Nato\\-medlem er Norge en stor aktĂžr i saker om sikkerhet, og spesielt om Arktis.\n\n*â Hva har Norge Ă„ legge pĂ„ bordet, i tillegg til olje og gass, for Ă„ bli hĂžrt?*\n\nâ Mye handler om personlighet. Jonas er svĂŠrt aktiv i utenriks\\- og sikkerhetspolitikken. Den interessen har vi begge som tidligere utenriksministre. Norge bidrar med Ăžkt sikkerhet for oss som nytt medlem i Nato. NĂ„ samarbeider Finland, Sverige og Norge mye tettere om forsvar.\n\n## SMS til Trump\n\nSĂžndag 18. januar sendte StĂžre og Stubb en felles tekstmelding til Donald Trump. De ramset opp uenighet om GrĂžnland, Gaza, Ukraina og straffetoll, og ba om et snarlig mĂžte.\n\n[27 minutter senere fikk StĂžre svar](/nyheter/i/q6AdB0/trump-i-melding-til-stoere-foeler-ikke-lenger-noen-forpliktelse) fra Trump, som den amerikanske presidenten publiserte i sosiale medier: Ettersom Norge ikke ga Trump Nobels fredspris, var Trump ikke lengre forpliktet til Ă„ tenke fred alltid. Trump gjentok ogsĂ„ kravet om Ă„ overgi GrĂžnland til USA.\n\nâ Jeg fikk den nĂžyaktig samme meldingen. Det sto «Dear Jonas» pĂ„ min ogsĂ„, bekrefter Stubb.\n\nâ Vi melder ofte med Trump, og vi gjĂžr det sammen. Vi sender felles meldinger til andre europeiske ledere, til Ukrainas president Zelenskyj, forteller han.\n\nAlexander Stubb har ytterligere en relasjon til Donald Trump som StĂžre ikke har.\n\n## Golf\\-mĂžtet\n\nI sin ungdom var Stubb pĂ„ Finlands ungdomslandslag i golf. 29. mars i fjor gikk Stubb og Trump ut pĂ„ Trump International Golf Club i Florida.\n\nâ Jeg fikk syv timer pĂ„ tomannshĂ„nd med USAs president, mer enn alle mine forgjengere til sammen. Jeg skal ikke overvurdere min relasjon med presidenten, men jeg mener det var vel anvendt tid.\n\nDe var et team pĂ„ fem og spilte «best ball», hvor de to beste scorene pĂ„ hvert hull talte. De vekslet mellom Ă„ score par og birdies. I en turnering med rundt 30 team, vant laget med de to presidentene.\n\n*â Hva fikk du og Finland igjen for det?*\n\nâ I ettertid tekster vi, vi ringes og vi diskuterer. Jeg tror det har vĂŠrt nyttig ved at vi etterpĂ„ har solgt 11 isbrytere til USA. Det er lett Ă„ glemme at diplomati egentlig har to ben. Det ene er det mellomstatlige forholdet, interessebasert ut fra makt, kultur og historie. Det andre er personlig. Som Finlands president er det min jobb Ă„ ha et bra forhold til USAs president. Om jeg lanserer 10 ideer og han tar en av dem, da har jeg lyktes.\n\n## Sier fra\n\n*â PĂ„ grunn av ditt golfspill, er Finland pĂ„ et bedre sted enn andre europeiske land?*\n\nâ Vi har et omfattende forsvarssamarbeid med USA, basert pĂ„ gjensidig interesse. Andre saker vurderer vi ulikt: Vi tror pĂ„ EU, pĂ„ en liberal verdensorden, og pĂ„ klimatrusselen. Jeg sier fra om at vi er uenig om straffetoll. Samtidig er det i USAs interesse Ă„ trene soldater i Arktis, Ă„ samarbeide om teknologi fordi store deler av deres mobile nettverk er levert av Nokia, og Ă„ samarbeide om sjeldne mineraler.\n\n*â Er det rom for kritikk?*\n\nâ Jeg er helt Ă„pen om at vi har et annet syn enn Trump i mange saker, som EU og klima. Derfor fungerer det. Jeg sender de samme analysene til Trump: Vi er hjertelig uenig med deg om straffetoll, for eksempel. USAs sikkerhetspolitikk er ogsĂ„ endret. Det er ikke lenger en\\-til\\-en med oss i Europa.\n\n## Trump\\-hviskeren\n\nI et VG\\-intervju i 2024 fortalte Stubbs forgjenger Sauli Niinistö [om sine samtaler med Vladimir Putin](/nyheter/i/O84KqO/finlands-president-om-putin-samtalene-vi-burde-ha-forstaatt), og hvordan han ble lĂžyet for i tiden fĂžr Putin beordret invasjonen i Ukraina.\n\n**Niinistö ble kalt Putin\\-hviskeren. Stubb omtales nĂ„ som Trump\\-hviskeren.**\n\n*â Hva slags kontakt har du med Putin?*\n\nâ Vi har ikke snakket sammen siden jeg ble president for to Ă„r siden. Finske myndigheter har kontakt pĂ„ lavere nivĂ„er med Russland om grensespĂžrsmĂ„l og annet praktisk.\n\n*â Vil du kunne ha tillit til Putin etter Ukraina\\-krigen?*\n\nâ VĂ„r 1340 kilometer grense mot Russland, den gĂ„r ikke over. Ă
bygge tillit med Russland igjen kan ta flere tiĂ„r. Da er muligens dagens russiske ledere erstattet, og vi kan ikke vite hvordan de vil forholde seg til Finland.\n\n**â Mange spĂ„r en massiv russisk opprustning mot Nato nĂ„r Ukraina\\-krigen tar slutt?**\n\nâ I vĂ„r analyse er det selvsagt at vi vil ha flere russiske soldater nĂŠrt vĂ„re grenser nĂ„r Ukraina\\-krigen er over. Det er ikke noe nytt. Men Russland vet hvor sterkt vĂ„rt forsvar er. Russland vet at Finland er Nato\\-medlem, svarer han.",
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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4e5c862e-1561-4d9d-9af4-863b350df24e?format=auto&w=1440&s=93278d552a644e0bd03535a710f58dae00d680b4 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4e5c862e-1561-4d9d-9af4-863b350df24e?format=auto&w=2160&s=2d87eea7df44d35ebdffa1a8733792df351195c0 2160w" style="object-position:0% 0%" width="7065"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island></div><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Mistet Karelen </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Stubbs farmor og farfar var fĂždt i <abbr class="_explanation_o9xde_140" tabindex="0" title="Et geografisk omrĂ„de som strekker seg fra de mest Ăžstlige og sĂžrĂžstlige delene av Finland mot Russland.">Karelen<span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151" role="presentation"><span class="text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156">Karelen</span>Et geografisk omrĂ„de som strekker seg fra de mest Ăžstlige og sĂžrĂžstlige delene av Finland mot Russland.</span></abbr>, som ble sovjetisk territorium i 1944 etter utmattende krigsĂ„r. Finland mĂ„tte ogsĂ„ betale enorme belĂžp i krigserstatning til Moskva, og ble tvunget til et rettsoppgjĂžr. </p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_2"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Finlands tidligere president Risto Ryti ble dĂžmt til 10 Ă„rs fengsel. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Vi fikk beholde vĂ„r selvstendighet, men vi tapte vĂ„r suverenitet, sier Stubb.</strong></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Sovjetunionen dikterte vilkĂ„rene: I starten fikk vi ikke vĂŠre med i Nordisk rĂ„d, i FN eller i EFTA.</p><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Fire Ă„r med krig </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Tirsdag 24. februar er det fire Ă„r siden russiske stridsvogner rullet mot Kyiv. Etter krigens fĂžrste fase har Russland i liten grad lyktes med Ă„ erobre mer av Ukrainas landareal. De siste mĂ„nedene har Putin gjort alt han kan for Ă„ fryse ut befolkningen. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"> <em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Kan det vĂŠre en lĂžsning for Ukraina, Ă„ gi bort areal i bytte med fred slik Finland mĂ„tte i 1944?</strong></em></p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_3"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Ut fra vĂ„r historie, forstĂ„r finnene det som holder pĂ„ Ă„ skje i Ukraina. Men Ukraina er i en langt bedre situasjon en Finland var i, forklarer han.</p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Ukraina har ikke tapt denne krigen, slĂ„r Stubb fast.</strong></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Det er Russland som har tapt, bĂ„de militĂŠrt, strategisk og Ăžkonomisk. Selv om Russland kontrollerer 20 prosent av Ukrainas areal, har de bare klart Ă„ ta ytterligere en prosent de to siste Ă„rene. 65.000 russiske soldater dĂžde bare i desember og januar. Da forstĂ„r du at Russland ikke kan vinne denne krigen. Ukraina vil ogsĂ„ fĂ„ sikkerhetsgarantier fra USA og Europa. Det hadde ikke Finland i 1944. Vi sto helt alene, sier den finske presidenten.</p><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">FN-reformer </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">Vi snakket ogsĂ„ med den finske presidenten om <a class="_link_o9xde_39" data-track-element-type="Link" data-track-id="link:dR89Oz" href="/nyheter/i/dR89Oz/president-stubb-vi-beveger-oss-mer-mot-mistillitssiden">golf-runden som ga en unik tilgang til USAs president. </a></strong></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">Han skal i tillegg fortelle mer om <a class="_link_o9xde_39" data-track-element-type="Link" data-track-id="link:kw63BX" href="/nyheter/i/kw63BX/stoere-paa-teambuilding-i-bodoe-med-kristersson-og-stubb">det nĂŠre vennskapet med Jonas Gahr StĂžre. </a></strong></p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_4"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Men fĂžrst: Alexander Stubb mener at FN mĂ„ reformeres. Ett av forslagene er at stormaktene mĂ„ oppgi sin vetorett i FNs sikkerhetsrĂ„d, og landene i sĂžr mĂ„ fĂ„ mer Ă„ si. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Jeg kaller det for verdibasert realisme, sier Stubb.</p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Det har han skrevet en bok om. «En ny verdensorden» er nĂ„ ute pĂ„ norsk.</p><astro-island await-children client="visible" component-export="Image" component-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js" opts="{"name":"Image","value":true}" prefix="r153" 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renderer-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js" ssr uid="ZzmulH"><figure class="_figure_qp4xg_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded"><img alt="" class="_image_qp4xg_65 layout-component layout-normal" data-fullscreen-sizes="(min-width: 1000px) 2000px, 2000vw" data-track-element-type="Article image fullscreen" data-track-name="ImageFullscreen" decoding="async" height="5477" itemprop="image" loading="lazy" sizes="(min-width: 980px) 980px, 100vw" src="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=40&s=b07f83c9d05163c1484fad72def62e8dfb0f9eca" srcset="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=40&s=b07f83c9d05163c1484fad72def62e8dfb0f9eca 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=80&s=249a33cc7f25b3245904ea34fd6edb8c77b41aa0 80w, 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=1440&s=7594b1aafebeaf920514d1a5955993ca39c898ac 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=2160&s=699062d03b7bd26222c318bd1fac14902acc60c8 2160w" style="object-position:0% 0%" width="7303"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Optimist av natur </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â VĂ„re nordiske verdier som frihet, sikkerhet, menneskerettigheter og demokrati mĂ„ ligge fast. Men for Ă„ lĂžse verdens stĂžrste problemer som handler om klima, konflikter, energi og teknologi, da mĂ„ du samarbeide med land som ikke har de samme verdiene, fortsetter han.</p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_5"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Tror du virkelig at de fem faste medlemmene av SikkerhetsrĂ„det vil gi opp sin vetorett? </strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Det vet jeg ikke. Men om man er optimist av natur, sĂ„ mĂ„ man i det minste forsĂžke Ă„ tenke nytt, sier Stubb.</p><astro-island await-children client="visible" component-export="FactBox" component-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/FactBox.3qMhHu30.js" opts="{"name":"FactBox","value":true}" prefix="r159" props="{"component":[0,{"title":[0,{"value":[0,"Dette er Alexander Stubb"]}],"paragraphs":[1,[[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Cai-Göran Alexander Stubb (fĂždt 1. april 1968) har vĂŠrt Finlands president siden 1. mars 2024. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Han vokste opp i Helsingfors i et tosprĂ„klig hjem: moren var finsksprĂ„klig mens faren snakket svensk og var toppsjef i Finlands ishockeyforbund og talentspeider for den amerikanske ishockeyligaen NHL. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Alexander Stubb har studert ved universiteter i USA, Frankrike, Belgia og Storbritannia, og har en doktorgrad i statsvitenskap fra London School of Economics. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Etter en periode som folkevalgt i EU-parlamentet for Samlingspartiet, som er HĂžyres finske sĂžsterparti, ble Stubb utnevnt til utenriksminister i Finland i 2008. Han fortsatte i ulike finske koalisjonsregjeringer som europaminister, statsminister og finansminister fram til 2016. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"I 2017 forlot han Finland for Ă„ bli visepresident i den europeiske investeringsbanken. Fra 2020 og fram til han startet president-kampanjen hĂžsten 2023, var han professor i statsvitenskap ved Europa-universitetet i Firenze. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Stubb vant europamesterskapet i triatlon i sin aldersklasse i 2022. 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Han fortsatte i ulike finske koalisjonsregjeringer som europaminister, statsminister og finansminister fram til 2016. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded">I 2017 forlot han Finland for Ă„ bli visepresident i den europeiske investeringsbanken. Fra 2020 og fram til han startet president-kampanjen hĂžsten 2023, var han professor i statsvitenskap ved Europa-universitetet i Firenze. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded">Stubb vant europamesterskapet i triatlon i sin aldersklasse i 2022. I fjor sommer tok han annenplassen i et triatlon-stevne i Finland, som besto av 750 meter svĂžmming, 20 kilometer sykling og 5 kilometer lĂžping.</p><button aria-controls="«r159R0»" class="_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large _hug_6bkpv_81 _filled_6bkpv_106 _button_1mfx9_76" data-track-element-type="Factbox" data-track-id="factbox:dette-er-alexander-stubb" data-track-impression="true" data-track-name="Dette er Alexander Stubb" role="button" type="button"><span>Vis <!-- -->mer</span></button></section></div><!--astro:end--></astro-island><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Maktens triangel </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">I boken beskriver Stubb «maktens triangel»: Tre ideologier som han kaller det globale vest, det globale sĂžr og det globale Ăžst. Samspillet mellom dem vil pĂ„virke den nye verdensordenen.</p><article class="layout-component layout-normal layout-padded _small_1woao_91 mb-cpg"><a class="_link_1woao_14" data-track-id="teaser:6q6kvr" data-track-impression="true" data-track-name="Bokanmeldelse: Men hva med Trump?" href="https://www.vg.no/rampelys/i/6q6kvr/men-hva-med-trump"><h3 class="title-serif-xs _title_1woao_44">Bokanmeldelse: Men hva med Trump?</h3><figure class="_figure_1woao_1"><img alt="" class="_image_1woao_6" height="2422" loading="lazy" sizes="200px" src="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=40&s=7759e1e71f4600f4511fd9c1043a2ac9dc27120f" srcset="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=40&s=7759e1e71f4600f4511fd9c1043a2ac9dc27120f 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=80&s=8a76c711afffcf46fbbea79384a78e771e2c3d66 80w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=100&s=babbe8b7faf71cf51190fcc2eab830df75ba4907 100w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=200&s=ba7d8689c97895fca90333d8e9b913b0174d6e1b 200w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=240&s=09ca7fbefb17fb77198e86602f017bb6f3fff8e9 240w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=480&s=5291c9c557c7a153ddccec7d7ff0b8cc262537c1 480w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=580&s=96d15162aae278e9eafe13b0245326c66570d1dd 580w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=720&s=4a8f0d2bf5e95f244f4a7708879071042677fba4 720w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=1080&s=fe59e64c6bb4a51d44cad9c7aebfdba9e31abfda 1080w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=1440&s=469bb1ed0f64bb1e3ee0147caf5a39d47ebe10fa 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=2160&s=461d6327c90978d40ed54d388e8fbab27e78757a 2160w" width="2653"></figure></a></article><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Vi ser at verden er i endring, men vi vet ennĂ„ ikke hvor den er pĂ„ vei. 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4a0ce8fa-f9ff-43a6-9ddf-d35c0aa77cd8?format=auto&w=1440&s=82d4ce776550ac3229f83cac334c618273c4ddcd 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4a0ce8fa-f9ff-43a6-9ddf-d35c0aa77cd8?format=auto&w=2160&s=9e5777420a3e29bc888c05b0bdb4ba037ae1fddd 2160w" style="object-position:0% 0%" width="8256"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Kampen stĂ„r nĂ„ mellom to motstridende ideologier, ifĂžlge Stubb: <abbr class="_explanation_o9xde_140" tabindex="0" title="I Jalta i 1945 la andre verdenskrigs seierherrer â USA, Storbritannia og Sovjetunionen â grunnlaget for en verdensorden basert pĂ„ stormaktenes interesser. ">«Jalta»<span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151" role="presentation"><span class="text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156">«Jalta»</span>I Jalta i 1945 la andre verdenskrigs seierherrer â USA, Storbritannia og Sovjetunionen â grunnlaget for en verdensorden basert pĂ„ stormaktenes interesser. </span></abbr> eller <abbr class="_explanation_o9xde_140" tabindex="0" title="I 1975 kom 35 stater sammen i Helsingfors og etablerte en europeisk sikkerhetsstruktur basert pĂ„ regler, normer, og respekt for gjeldende landegrenser. ">«Helsingfors».<span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151" role="presentation"><span class="text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156">«Helsingfors».</span>I 1975 kom 35 stater sammen i Helsingfors og etablerte en europeisk sikkerhetsstruktur basert pĂ„ regler, normer, og respekt for gjeldende landegrenser. </span></abbr></p><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Fra krise til lĂžsning </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Stubb argumenterer for at krisene i verden har tĂžmret de europeiske landene mye tettere sammen. Han beskriver EU-samarbeidet i tre typiske faser:</p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_6"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â FĂžrst er det krise, sĂ„ kaos â men sĂ„ finner vi en lĂžsning alle kan leve med, forklarer han.</p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Han ramser opp: </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><a class="_link_o9xde_39" data-track-element-type="Link" data-track-id="link:aAMbd" href="/nyheter/i/aAMbd/slik-splitter-brexit-storbritannia">Brexit </a>dro de europeiske landene tettere sammen. SĂ„ kom covid, krigen i Ukraina, og energikrisen som landene samarbeidet om Ă„ lĂžse. 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class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">StĂžre har ogsĂ„ bekreftet den tette kontakten med president Stubb. De snakker sammen eller utveksler SMS-er omtrent hver eneste dag.</p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_7"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Hvordan kan Norge vĂŠre pĂ„ innsiden av de store beslutningene i Europa uten Ă„ vĂŠre medlem i EU?</strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â EU-medlemskapet er en beslutning Norge selv mĂ„ ta, selv om jeg personlig skulle Ăžnske at Storbritannia Island og Norge var med. 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/f81db773-de67-415f-955b-5a177d6aa603?format=auto&w=1440&s=f72fd183b2251bc27ffefddd5d0712e549bd7c39 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/f81db773-de67-415f-955b-5a177d6aa603?format=auto&w=2160&s=92a0ea89e38976c768d12e1dd5461a68d21b5d1f 2160w" style="object-position:0% 0%" width="8212"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Hva har Norge Ă„ legge pĂ„ bordet, i tillegg til olje og gass, for Ă„ bli hĂžrt? </strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Mye handler om personlighet. Jonas er svĂŠrt aktiv i utenriks- og sikkerhetspolitikken. Den interessen har vi begge som tidligere utenriksministre. Norge bidrar med Ăžkt sikkerhet for oss som nytt medlem i Nato. NĂ„ samarbeider Finland, Sverige og Norge mye tettere om forsvar.</p><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">SMS til Trump </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">SĂžndag 18. januar sendte StĂžre og Stubb en felles tekstmelding til Donald Trump. De ramset opp uenighet om GrĂžnland, Gaza, Ukraina og straffetoll, og ba om et snarlig mĂžte.</p><astro-island await-children client="visible" component-export="Image" component-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js" opts="{"name":"Image","value":true}" prefix="r188" props="{"alt":[0],"caption":[0,"Foto: Hallgeir VĂ„genes / 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/96ce3533-6b7e-4dfe-904a-2b125daae56a?format=auto&w=1440&s=23ba348da58ebe99c99f035594b96743a9705d1e 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/96ce3533-6b7e-4dfe-904a-2b125daae56a?format=auto&w=2160&s=610205b1f750a102a1815aecd24ce4653b7eda5e 2160w" style="object-position:0% 0%" width="3647"><figcaption class="text-sans-s _caption_qp4xg_10 layout-component">Foto: Hallgeir VĂ„genes / VG</figcaption></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><a class="_link_o9xde_39" data-track-element-type="Link" data-track-id="link:q6AdB0" href="/nyheter/i/q6AdB0/trump-i-melding-til-stoere-foeler-ikke-lenger-noen-forpliktelse">27 minutter senere fikk StĂžre svar</a> fra Trump, som den amerikanske presidenten publiserte i sosiale medier: Ettersom Norge ikke ga Trump Nobels fredspris, var Trump ikke lengre forpliktet til Ă„ tenke fred alltid. Trump gjentok ogsĂ„ kravet om Ă„ overgi GrĂžnland til USA. </p><astro-island await-children client="visible" component-export="FactBox" component-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/FactBox.3qMhHu30.js" opts="{"name":"FactBox","value":true}" prefix="r190" props="{"component":[0,{"title":[0,{"value":[0,"Slik var SMS-utvekslingen "]}],"paragraphs":[1,[[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Tekstmelding fra statsminister StĂžre til president Trump 18. januar kl. 15:48: «Dear Mr president, dear Donald â on the contact across the Atlantic â on Greenland, Gaza, Ukraine â and your tariff announcement yesterday. You know our position on these issues. But we believe we all should work to take this down and de-escalate â so much is happening around us where we need to stand together. We are proposing a call with you later today â with both of us or separately â give us a hint of what you prefer! Best â Alex and Jonas»"],"markup":[1,[[0,{"type":[0,"style:em"],"offset":[0,80],"length":[0,448]}]]]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Tekstmelding fra president Trump til statsminister StĂžre 18. januar kl. 16:15: «Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a âright of ownershipâ anyway? There are no written documents, itâs only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! 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You know our position on these issues. But we believe we all should work to take this down and de-escalate â so much is happening around us where we need to stand together. We are proposing a call with you later today â with both of us or separately â give us a hint of what you prefer! Best â Alex and Jonas</em>»</p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded">Tekstmelding fra president Trump til statsminister StĂžre 18. januar kl. 16:15: «<em class="_em_o9xde_35">Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a âright of ownershipâ anyway? There are no written documents, itâs only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT</em>»</p><button aria-controls="«r190R0»" class="_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large _hug_6bkpv_81 _filled_6bkpv_106 _button_1mfx9_76" data-track-element-type="Factbox" data-track-id="factbox:slik-var-sms-utvekslingen" data-track-impression="true" data-track-name="Slik var SMS-utvekslingen " role="button" type="button"><span>Vis <!-- -->mer</span></button></section></div><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Jeg fikk den nĂžyaktig samme meldingen. Det sto «Dear Jonas» pĂ„ min ogsĂ„, bekrefter Stubb.</p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_8"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Vi melder ofte med Trump, og vi gjĂžr det sammen. Vi sender felles meldinger til andre europeiske ledere, til Ukrainas president Zelenskyj, forteller han.</p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Alexander Stubb har ytterligere en relasjon til Donald Trump som StĂžre ikke har. </p><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Golf-mĂžtet </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">I sin ungdom var Stubb pĂ„ Finlands ungdomslandslag i golf. 29. mars i fjor gikk Stubb og Trump ut pĂ„ Trump International Golf Club i Florida. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Jeg fikk syv timer pĂ„ tomannshĂ„nd med USAs president, mer enn alle mine forgjengere til sammen. Jeg skal ikke overvurdere min relasjon med presidenten, men jeg mener det var vel anvendt tid.</p><astro-island await-children client="visible" component-export="Image" component-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js" opts="{"name":"Image","value":true}" prefix="r198" props="{"alt":[0],"caption":[0,"Foto: Finnish Presidential Office via Instagram"],"device":[0],"editorialJudgment":[0],"imageAsset":[0,{"id":[0,"2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a"],"size":[0,{"width":[0,877],"height":[0,1170]}],"hotspot":[0,{"x":[0,213],"y":[0,76],"width":[0,427],"height":[0,320]}],"urls":[1,[[0,{"height":[0,53],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=40&s=38171b5210c29edf92548e140caf128dc87144d6"],"width":[0,40]}],[0,{"height":[0,107],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=80&s=c4d32ae9b0cbe6ee821b900f7cd9735e46ada8e1"],"width":[0,80]}],[0,{"height":[0,133],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=100&s=1fac5f0ff24d1c2dfdefcf6ae98fac0d7313e53a"],"width":[0,100]}],[0,{"height":[0,267],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=200&s=14c1dc3d3e3f16eeab079d32729d1cf28b1ef859"],"width":[0,200]}],[0,{"height":[0,320],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=240&s=2ed439ca0bf2359308bc0e7dd68a0742cbfc9aa3"],"width":[0,240]}],[0,{"height":[0,640],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=480&s=8cbf5bbf1d9021058197c164238b4a33243be41d"],"width":[0,480]}],[0,{"height":[0,774],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=580&s=c9d9b0861297248f3a59c2bc188999494fc6fa40"],"width":[0,580]}],[0,{"height":[0,961],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=720&s=d35bf401e5e2642c590297506b41f922e8a91b40"],"width":[0,720]}]]]}],"layout":[0],"marginBottom":[0],"padded":[0],"type":[0,"feature"]}" renderer-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js" ssr uid="ZhiJY5"><figure class="_figure_qp4xg_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded"><img alt="Foto: Finnish Presidential Office via Instagram" class="_image_qp4xg_65 layout-component layout-normal" data-fullscreen-sizes="(min-width: 1000px) 2000px, 2000vw" data-track-element-type="Article image fullscreen" data-track-name="ImageFullscreen" decoding="async" height="1170" itemprop="image" loading="lazy" sizes="(min-width: 980px) 980px, 100vw" src="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=40&s=38171b5210c29edf92548e140caf128dc87144d6" srcset="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=40&s=38171b5210c29edf92548e140caf128dc87144d6 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=80&s=c4d32ae9b0cbe6ee821b900f7cd9735e46ada8e1 80w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=100&s=1fac5f0ff24d1c2dfdefcf6ae98fac0d7313e53a 100w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=200&s=14c1dc3d3e3f16eeab079d32729d1cf28b1ef859 200w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=240&s=2ed439ca0bf2359308bc0e7dd68a0742cbfc9aa3 240w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=480&s=8cbf5bbf1d9021058197c164238b4a33243be41d 480w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=580&s=c9d9b0861297248f3a59c2bc188999494fc6fa40 580w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=720&s=d35bf401e5e2642c590297506b41f922e8a91b40 720w" style="object-position:48.63169897377423% 20.17094017094017%" width="877"><figcaption class="text-sans-s _caption_qp4xg_10 layout-component">Foto: Finnish Presidential Office via Instagram</figcaption></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">De var et <abbr class="_explanation_o9xde_140" tabindex="0" title="Stubb's medspillere er, ifĂžlge boken, senator Lindsey Graham, golflegenden Gary Player, Fox-anker Trey Gowdy og president Donald Trump.">team pĂ„ fem<span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151" role="presentation"><span class="text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156">team pĂ„ fem</span>Stubb's medspillere er, ifĂžlge boken, senator Lindsey Graham, golflegenden Gary Player, Fox-anker Trey Gowdy og president Donald Trump.</span></abbr> og spilte «best ball», hvor de to beste scorene pĂ„ hvert hull talte. De vekslet mellom Ă„ score par og birdies. I en turnering med rundt 30 team, vant laget med de to presidentene. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Hva fikk du og Finland igjen for det?</strong></em></p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_9"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â I ettertid tekster vi, vi ringes og vi diskuterer. Jeg tror det har vĂŠrt nyttig ved at vi etterpĂ„ har solgt 11 isbrytere til USA. Det er lett Ă„ glemme at diplomati egentlig har to ben. Det ene er det mellomstatlige forholdet, interessebasert ut fra makt, kultur og historie. Det andre er personlig. Som Finlands president er det min jobb Ă„ ha et bra forhold til USAs president. Om jeg lanserer 10 ideer og han tar en av dem, da har jeg lyktes.</p><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Sier fra </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â PĂ„ grunn av ditt golfspill, er Finland pĂ„ et bedre sted enn andre europeiske land?</strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Vi har et omfattende forsvarssamarbeid med USA, basert pĂ„ gjensidig interesse. Andre saker vurderer vi ulikt: Vi tror pĂ„ EU, pĂ„ en liberal verdensorden, og pĂ„ klimatrusselen. Jeg sier fra om at vi er uenig om straffetoll. Samtidig er det i USAs interesse Ă„ trene soldater i Arktis, Ă„ samarbeide om teknologi fordi store deler av deres mobile nettverk er levert av Nokia, og Ă„ samarbeide om sjeldne mineraler. </p><astro-island await-children client="visible" component-export="Image" component-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js" opts="{"name":"Image","value":true}" prefix="r206" 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renderer-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js" ssr uid="ZMhTBJ"><figure class="_figure_qp4xg_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded"><img alt="" class="_image_qp4xg_65 layout-component layout-normal" data-fullscreen-sizes="(min-width: 1000px) 2000px, 2000vw" data-track-element-type="Article image fullscreen" data-track-name="ImageFullscreen" decoding="async" height="5482" itemprop="image" loading="lazy" sizes="(min-width: 980px) 980px, 100vw" src="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=40&s=e0f6ceffc50c002f84229490ebeb7cb9b8d5ab47" srcset="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=40&s=e0f6ceffc50c002f84229490ebeb7cb9b8d5ab47 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=80&s=08d0331f1f3fbf77935b7ef83869c5f49e089624 80w, 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=1440&s=0607397fe1c9c98ff643de77a48be60ea1fdbee0 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=2160&s=88f022225cb160864e26509aa7d206a803977497 2160w" style="object-position:0% 0%" width="7309"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Er det rom for kritikk?</strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Jeg er helt Ă„pen om at vi har et annet syn enn Trump i mange saker, som EU og klima. Derfor fungerer det. Jeg sender de samme analysene til Trump: Vi er hjertelig uenig med deg om straffetoll, for eksempel. USAs sikkerhetspolitikk er ogsĂ„ endret. 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class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_10"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">Niinistö ble kalt Putin-hviskeren. Stubb omtales nĂ„ som Trump-hviskeren.</strong></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Hva slags kontakt har du med Putin?</strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Vi har ikke snakket sammen siden jeg ble president for to Ă„r siden. Finske myndigheter har kontakt pĂ„ lavere nivĂ„er med Russland om grensespĂžrsmĂ„l og annet praktisk. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Vil du kunne ha tillit til Putin etter Ukraina-krigen?</strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â VĂ„r 1340 kilometer grense mot Russland, den gĂ„r ikke over. Ă
bygge tillit med Russland igjen kan ta flere tiĂ„r. Da er muligens dagens russiske ledere erstattet, og vi kan ikke vite hvordan de vil forholde seg til Finland.</p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Mange spĂ„r en massiv russisk opprustning mot Nato nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen tar slutt?</strong></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â I vĂ„r analyse er det selvsagt at vi vil ha flere russiske soldater nĂŠrt vĂ„re grenser nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen er over. Det er ikke noe nytt. Men Russland vet hvor sterkt vĂ„rt forsvar er. 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"content" : "Iskald vind sniker seg rundt gatehjĂžrnene i Helsingfors. Fjorden er like frosset som Finlands forhold til Russland.\n\nIsbrytere jobber dag og natt for Ă„ holde rĂ„ker Ă„pne for skipstrafikken som forbinder hovedstaden med omverdenen.\n\nInnerst i havnen ligger presidentpalasset. Der inne sitter [Alexander Stubb](/tag/alexander-stubb?utm_source=vg-article&utm_medium=auto-tagger&utm_campaign=0pGalM) \\(57\\) og forteller VG om hvordan isen kan brytes, og en ny verdensorden kan utformes.\n\nOg hvorfor han mener at Russland er i ferd med Ă„ tape krigen i Ukraina.\n\n## Mistet Karelen\n\nStubbs farmor og farfar var fĂždt i Karelen, som ble sovjetisk territorium i 1944 etter utmattende krigsĂ„r. Finland mĂ„tte ogsĂ„ betale enorme belĂžp i krigserstatning til Moskva, og ble tvunget til et rettsoppgjĂžr.\n\nFinlands tidligere president Risto Ryti ble dĂžmt til 10 Ă„rs fengsel.\n\n**â Vi fikk beholde vĂ„r selvstendighet, men vi tapte vĂ„r suverenitet, sier Stubb.**\n\nâ Sovjetunionen dikterte vilkĂ„rene: I starten fikk vi ikke vĂŠre med i Nordisk rĂ„d, i FN eller i EFTA.\n\n## Fire Ă„r med krig\n\nTirsdag 24. februar er det fire Ă„r siden russiske stridsvogner rullet mot Kyiv. Etter krigens fĂžrste fase har Russland i liten grad lyktes med Ă„ erobre mer av Ukrainas landareal. De siste mĂ„nedene har Putin gjort alt han kan for Ă„ fryse ut befolkningen.\n\n*â Kan det vĂŠre en lĂžsning for Ukraina, Ă„ gi bort areal i bytte med fred slik Finland mĂ„tte i 1944?*\n\nâ Ut fra vĂ„r historie, forstĂ„r finnene det som holder pĂ„ Ă„ skje i Ukraina. Men Ukraina er i en langt bedre situasjon en Finland var i, forklarer han.\n\n**â Ukraina har ikke tapt denne krigen, slĂ„r Stubb fast.**\n\nâ Det er Russland som har tapt, bĂ„de militĂŠrt, strategisk og Ăžkonomisk. Selv om Russland kontrollerer 20 prosent av Ukrainas areal, har de bare klart Ă„ ta ytterligere en prosent de to siste Ă„rene. 65.000 russiske soldater dĂžde bare i desember og januar. Da forstĂ„r du at Russland ikke kan vinne denne krigen. Ukraina vil ogsĂ„ fĂ„ sikkerhetsgarantier fra USA og Europa. Det hadde ikke Finland i 1944. Vi sto helt alene, sier den finske presidenten.\n\n## FN\\-reformer\n\n**Vi snakket ogsĂ„ med den finske presidenten om golf\\-runden som ga en unik tilgang til USAs president.**\n\n**Han skal i tillegg fortelle mer om det nĂŠre vennskapet med Jonas Gahr StĂžre.**\n\nMen fĂžrst: Alexander Stubb mener at FN mĂ„ reformeres. Ett av forslagene er at stormaktene mĂ„ oppgi sin vetorett i FNs sikkerhetsrĂ„d, og landene i sĂžr mĂ„ fĂ„ mer Ă„ si.\n\nâ Jeg kaller det for verdibasert realisme, sier Stubb.\n\nDet har han skrevet en bok om. «En ny verdensorden» er nĂ„ ute pĂ„ norsk.\n\n## Optimist av natur\n\nâ VĂ„re nordiske verdier som frihet, sikkerhet, menneskerettigheter og demokrati mĂ„ ligge fast. Men for Ă„ lĂžse verdens stĂžrste problemer som handler om klima, konflikter, energi og teknologi, da mĂ„ du samarbeide med land som ikke har de samme verdiene, fortsetter han.\n\n*â Tror du virkelig at de fem faste medlemmene av SikkerhetsrĂ„det vil gi opp sin vetorett?*\n\nâ Det vet jeg ikke. Men om man er optimist av natur, sĂ„ mĂ„ man i det minste forsĂžke Ă„ tenke nytt, sier Stubb.\n\n## Maktens triangel\n\nI boken beskriver Stubb «maktens triangel»: Tre ideologier som han kaller det globale vest, det globale sĂžr og det globale Ăžst. Samspillet mellom dem vil pĂ„virke den nye verdensordenen.\n\nâ Vi ser at verden er i endring, men vi vet ennĂ„ ikke hvor den er pĂ„ vei. I boken argumenterer jeg for at det vil gĂ„ noen Ă„r, kanskje til 2030, fĂžr en ny verdensorden kommer pĂ„ plass. Akkurat nĂ„ er vi i en periode hvor mektige aktĂžrer prĂžver Ă„ posisjonere seg der det finnes maktvakuum. Kina gjĂžr det, og Trumps nye fredsforum har ambisjoner om Ă„ gjĂžre det, sier han.\n\nKampen stĂ„r nĂ„ mellom to motstridende ideologier, ifĂžlge Stubb: «Jalta» eller «Helsingfors».\n\n## Fra krise til lĂžsning\n\nStubb argumenterer for at krisene i verden har tĂžmret de europeiske landene mye tettere sammen. Han beskriver EU\\-samarbeidet i tre typiske faser:\n\nâ FĂžrst er det krise, sĂ„ kaos â men sĂ„ finner vi en lĂžsning alle kan leve med, forklarer han.\n\nHan ramser opp:\n\n[Brexit ](/nyheter/i/aAMbd/slik-splitter-brexit-storbritannia)dro de europeiske landene tettere sammen. SĂ„ kom covid, krigen i Ukraina, og energikrisen som landene samarbeidet om Ă„ lĂžse. Legg til sikkerhetstrusselen fra Russland, og «et visst trykk fra USA», som Stubb beskriver.\n\n## Den han snakker mest med\n\n**Stubbs nĂŠrmeste samtalepartner i Europa er imidlertid ikke medlem i EU:**\n\nâ Skal jeg trekke fram den europeiske lederen som jeg har mest kommunikasjon med, sĂ„ er det Jonas Gahr StĂžre, sier han.\n\nStĂžre har ogsĂ„ bekreftet den tette kontakten med president Stubb. De snakker sammen eller utveksler SMS\\-er omtrent hver eneste dag.\n\n*â Hvordan kan Norge vĂŠre pĂ„ innsiden av de store beslutningene i Europa uten Ă„ vĂŠre medlem i EU?*\n\nâ EU\\-medlemskapet er en beslutning Norge selv mĂ„ ta, selv om jeg personlig skulle Ăžnske at Storbritannia Island og Norge var med. Men som Nato\\-medlem er Norge en stor aktĂžr i saker om sikkerhet, og spesielt om Arktis.\n\n*â Hva har Norge Ă„ legge pĂ„ bordet, i tillegg til olje og gass, for Ă„ bli hĂžrt?*\n\nâ Mye handler om personlighet. Jonas er svĂŠrt aktiv i utenriks\\- og sikkerhetspolitikken. Den interessen har vi begge som tidligere utenriksministre. Norge bidrar med Ăžkt sikkerhet for oss som nytt medlem i Nato. NĂ„ samarbeider Finland, Sverige og Norge mye tettere om forsvar.\n\n## SMS til Trump\n\nSĂžndag 18. januar sendte StĂžre og Stubb en felles tekstmelding til Donald Trump. De ramset opp uenighet om GrĂžnland, Gaza, Ukraina og straffetoll, og ba om et snarlig mĂžte.\n\n[27 minutter senere fikk StĂžre svar](/nyheter/i/q6AdB0/trump-i-melding-til-stoere-foeler-ikke-lenger-noen-forpliktelse) fra Trump, som den amerikanske presidenten publiserte i sosiale medier: Ettersom Norge ikke ga Trump Nobels fredspris, var Trump ikke lengre forpliktet til Ă„ tenke fred alltid. Trump gjentok ogsĂ„ kravet om Ă„ overgi GrĂžnland til USA.\n\nâ Jeg fikk den nĂžyaktig samme meldingen. Det sto «Dear Jonas» pĂ„ min ogsĂ„, bekrefter Stubb.\n\nâ Vi melder ofte med Trump, og vi gjĂžr det sammen. Vi sender felles meldinger til andre europeiske ledere, til Ukrainas president Zelenskyj, forteller han.\n\nAlexander Stubb har ytterligere en relasjon til Donald Trump som StĂžre ikke har.\n\n## Golf\\-mĂžtet\n\nI sin ungdom var Stubb pĂ„ Finlands ungdomslandslag i golf. 29. mars i fjor gikk Stubb og Trump ut pĂ„ Trump International Golf Club i Florida.\n\nâ Jeg fikk syv timer pĂ„ tomannshĂ„nd med USAs president, mer enn alle mine forgjengere til sammen. Jeg skal ikke overvurdere min relasjon med presidenten, men jeg mener det var vel anvendt tid.\n\nDe var et team pĂ„ fem og spilte «best ball», hvor de to beste scorene pĂ„ hvert hull talte. De vekslet mellom Ă„ score par og birdies. I en turnering med rundt 30 team, vant laget med de to presidentene.\n\n*â Hva fikk du og Finland igjen for det?*\n\nâ I ettertid tekster vi, vi ringes og vi diskuterer. Jeg tror det har vĂŠrt nyttig ved at vi etterpĂ„ har solgt 11 isbrytere til USA. Det er lett Ă„ glemme at diplomati egentlig har to ben. Det ene er det mellomstatlige forholdet, interessebasert ut fra makt, kultur og historie. Det andre er personlig. Som Finlands president er det min jobb Ă„ ha et bra forhold til USAs president. Om jeg lanserer 10 ideer og han tar en av dem, da har jeg lyktes.\n\n## Sier fra\n\n*â PĂ„ grunn av ditt golfspill, er Finland pĂ„ et bedre sted enn andre europeiske land?*\n\nâ Vi har et omfattende forsvarssamarbeid med USA, basert pĂ„ gjensidig interesse. Andre saker vurderer vi ulikt: Vi tror pĂ„ EU, pĂ„ en liberal verdensorden, og pĂ„ klimatrusselen. Jeg sier fra om at vi er uenig om straffetoll. Samtidig er det i USAs interesse Ă„ trene soldater i Arktis, Ă„ samarbeide om teknologi fordi store deler av deres mobile nettverk er levert av Nokia, og Ă„ samarbeide om sjeldne mineraler.\n\n*â Er det rom for kritikk?*\n\nâ Jeg er helt Ă„pen om at vi har et annet syn enn Trump i mange saker, som EU og klima. Derfor fungerer det. Jeg sender de samme analysene til Trump: Vi er hjertelig uenig med deg om straffetoll, for eksempel. USAs sikkerhetspolitikk er ogsĂ„ endret. Det er ikke lenger en\\-til\\-en med oss i Europa.\n\n## Trump\\-hviskeren\n\nI et VG\\-intervju i 2024 fortalte Stubbs forgjenger Sauli Niinistö [om sine samtaler med Vladimir Putin](/nyheter/i/O84KqO/finlands-president-om-putin-samtalene-vi-burde-ha-forstaatt), og hvordan han ble lĂžyet for i tiden fĂžr Putin beordret invasjonen i Ukraina.\n\n**Niinistö ble kalt Putin\\-hviskeren. Stubb omtales nĂ„ som Trump\\-hviskeren.**\n\n*â Hva slags kontakt har du med Putin?*\n\nâ Vi har ikke snakket sammen siden jeg ble president for to Ă„r siden. Finske myndigheter har kontakt pĂ„ lavere nivĂ„er med Russland om grensespĂžrsmĂ„l og annet praktisk.\n\n*â Vil du kunne ha tillit til Putin etter Ukraina\\-krigen?*\n\nâ VĂ„r 1340 kilometer grense mot Russland, den gĂ„r ikke over. Ă
bygge tillit med Russland igjen kan ta flere tiĂ„r. Da er muligens dagens russiske ledere erstattet, og vi kan ikke vite hvordan de vil forholde seg til Finland.\n\n**â Mange spĂ„r en massiv russisk opprustning mot Nato nĂ„r Ukraina\\-krigen tar slutt?**\n\nâ I vĂ„r analyse er det selvsagt at vi vil ha flere russiske soldater nĂŠrt vĂ„re grenser nĂ„r Ukraina\\-krigen er over. Det er ikke noe nytt. Men Russland vet hvor sterkt vĂ„rt forsvar er. Russland vet at Finland er Nato\\-medlem, svarer han.",
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Fjorden er like frosset som Finlands forhold til Russland.\\n\\nIsbrytere jobber dag og natt for Ă„ holde rĂ„ker Ă„pne for skipstrafikken som forbinder hovedstaden med omverdenen.\\n\\nInnerst i havnen ligger presidentpalasset. Der inne sitter [Alexander Stubb](/tag/alexander-stubb?utm_source=vg-article&utm_medium=auto-tagger&utm_campaign=0pGalM) \\\\(57\\\\) og forteller VG om hvordan isen kan brytes, og en ny verdensorden kan utformes.\\n\\nOg hvorfor han mener at Russland er i ferd med Ă„ tape krigen i Ukraina.\\n\\n## Mistet Karelen\\n\\nStubbs farmor og farfar var fĂždt i Karelen, som ble sovjetisk territorium i 1944 etter utmattende krigsĂ„r. Finland mĂ„tte ogsĂ„ betale enorme belĂžp i krigserstatning til Moskva, og ble tvunget til et rettsoppgjĂžr.\\n\\nFinlands tidligere president Risto Ryti ble dĂžmt til 10 Ă„rs fengsel.\\n\\n**ù Vi fikk beholde vĂ„r selvstendighet, men vi tapte vĂ„r suverenitet, sier Stubb.**\\n\\nù Sovjetunionen dikterte vilkĂ„rene: I starten fikk vi ikke vĂŠre med i Nordisk rĂ„d, i FN eller i EFTA.\\n\\n## Fire Ă„r med krig\\n\\nTirsdag 24. februar er det fire Ă„r siden russiske stridsvogner rullet mot Kyiv. Etter krigens fĂžrste fase har Russland i liten grad lyktes med Ă„ erobre mer av Ukrainas landareal. De siste mĂ„nedene har Putin gjort alt han kan for Ă„ fryse ut befolkningen.\\n\\n*ù Kan det vĂŠre en lĂžsning for Ukraina, Ă„ gi bort areal i bytte med fred slik Finland mĂ„tte i 1944?*\\n\\nù Ut fra vĂ„r historie, forstĂ„r finnene det som holder pĂ„ Ă„ skje i Ukraina. Men Ukraina er i en langt bedre situasjon en Finland var i, forklarer han.\\n\\n**ù Ukraina har ikke tapt denne krigen, slĂ„r Stubb fast.**\\n\\nù Det er Russland som har tapt, bĂ„de militĂŠrt, strategisk og Ăžkonomisk. Selv om Russland kontrollerer 20 prosent av Ukrainas areal, har de bare klart Ă„ ta ytterligere en prosent de to siste Ă„rene. 65.000 russiske soldater dĂžde bare i desember og januar. Da forstĂ„r du at Russland ikke kan vinne denne krigen. Ukraina vil ogsĂ„ fĂ„ sikkerhetsgarantier fra USA og Europa. Det hadde ikke Finland i 1944. Vi sto helt alene, sier den finske presidenten.\\n\\n## FN\\\\-reformer\\n\\n**Vi snakket ogsĂ„ med den finske presidenten om golf\\\\-runden som ga en unik tilgang til USAs president.**\\n\\n**Han skal i tillegg fortelle mer om det nĂŠre vennskapet med Jonas Gahr StĂžre.**\\n\\nMen fĂžrst: Alexander Stubb mener at FN mĂ„ reformeres. Ett av forslagene er at stormaktene mĂ„ oppgi sin vetorett i FNs sikkerhetsrĂ„d, og landene i sĂžr mĂ„ fĂ„ mer Ă„ si.\\n\\nù Jeg kaller det for verdibasert realisme, sier Stubb.\\n\\nDet har han skrevet en bok om. Ă«En ny verdensordenĂ» er nĂ„ ute pĂ„ norsk.\\n\\n## Optimist av natur\\n\\nù VĂ„re nordiske verdier som frihet, sikkerhet, menneskerettigheter og demokrati mĂ„ ligge fast. Men for Ă„ lĂžse verdens stĂžrste problemer som handler om klima, konflikter, energi og teknologi, da mĂ„ du samarbeide med land som ikke har de samme verdiene, fortsetter han.\\n\\n*ù Tror du virkelig at de fem faste medlemmene av SikkerhetsrĂ„det vil gi opp sin vetorett?*\\n\\nù Det vet jeg ikke. Men om man er optimist av natur, sĂ„ mĂ„ man i det minste forsĂžke Ă„ tenke nytt, sier Stubb.\\n\\n## Maktens triangel\\n\\nI boken beskriver Stubb Ă«maktens triangelĂ»: Tre ideologier som han kaller det globale vest, det globale sĂžr og det globale Ăžst. Samspillet mellom dem vil pĂ„virke den nye verdensordenen.\\n\\nù Vi ser at verden er i endring, men vi vet ennĂ„ ikke hvor den er pĂ„ vei. I boken argumenterer jeg for at det vil gĂ„ noen Ă„r, kanskje til 2030, fĂžr en ny verdensorden kommer pĂ„ plass. Akkurat nĂ„ er vi i en periode hvor mektige aktĂžrer prĂžver Ă„ posisjonere seg der det finnes maktvakuum. Kina gjĂžr det, og Trumps nye fredsforum har ambisjoner om Ă„ gjĂžre det, sier han.\\n\\nKampen stĂ„r nĂ„ mellom to motstridende ideologier, ifĂžlge Stubb: Ă«JaltaĂ» eller Ă«HelsingforsĂ».\\n\\n## Fra krise til lĂžsning\\n\\nStubb argumenterer for at krisene i verden har tĂžmret de europeiske landene mye tettere sammen. Han beskriver EU\\\\-samarbeidet i tre typiske faser:\\n\\nù FĂžrst er det krise, sĂ„ kaos ù men sĂ„ finner vi en lĂžsning alle kan leve med, forklarer han.\\n\\nHan ramser opp:\\n\\n[Brexit ](/nyheter/i/aAMbd/slik-splitter-brexit-storbritannia)dro de europeiske landene tettere sammen. SĂ„ kom covid, krigen i Ukraina, og energikrisen som landene samarbeidet om Ă„ lĂžse. Legg til sikkerhetstrusselen fra Russland, og Ă«et visst trykk fra USAĂ», som Stubb beskriver.\\n\\n## Den han snakker mest med\\n\\n**Stubbs nĂŠrmeste samtalepartner i Europa er imidlertid ikke medlem i EU:**\\n\\nù Skal jeg trekke fram den europeiske lederen som jeg har mest kommunikasjon med, sĂ„ er det Jonas Gahr StĂžre, sier han.\\n\\nStĂžre har ogsĂ„ bekreftet den tette kontakten med president Stubb. De snakker sammen eller utveksler SMS\\\\-er omtrent hver eneste dag.\\n\\n*ù Hvordan kan Norge vĂŠre pĂ„ innsiden av de store beslutningene i Europa uten Ă„ vĂŠre medlem i EU?*\\n\\nù EU\\\\-medlemskapet er en beslutning Norge selv mĂ„ ta, selv om jeg personlig skulle Ăžnske at Storbritannia Island og Norge var med. Men som Nato\\\\-medlem er Norge en stor aktĂžr i saker om sikkerhet, og spesielt om Arktis.\\n\\n*ù Hva har Norge Ă„ legge pĂ„ bordet, i tillegg til olje og gass, for Ă„ bli hĂžrt?*\\n\\nù Mye handler om personlighet. Jonas er svĂŠrt aktiv i utenriks\\\\- og sikkerhetspolitikken. Den interessen har vi begge som tidligere utenriksministre. Norge bidrar med Ăžkt sikkerhet for oss som nytt medlem i Nato. NĂ„ samarbeider Finland, Sverige og Norge mye tettere om forsvar.\\n\\n## SMS til Trump\\n\\nSĂžndag 18. januar sendte StĂžre og Stubb en felles tekstmelding til Donald Trump. De ramset opp uenighet om GrĂžnland, Gaza, Ukraina og straffetoll, og ba om et snarlig mĂžte.\\n\\n[27 minutter senere fikk StĂžre svar](/nyheter/i/q6AdB0/trump-i-melding-til-stoere-foeler-ikke-lenger-noen-forpliktelse) fra Trump, som den amerikanske presidenten publiserte i sosiale medier: Ettersom Norge ikke ga Trump Nobels fredspris, var Trump ikke lengre forpliktet til Ă„ tenke fred alltid. Trump gjentok ogsĂ„ kravet om Ă„ overgi GrĂžnland til USA.\\n\\nù Jeg fikk den nĂžyaktig samme meldingen. Det sto Ă«Dear JonasĂ» pĂ„ min ogsĂ„, bekrefter Stubb.\\n\\nù Vi melder ofte med Trump, og vi gjĂžr det sammen. Vi sender felles meldinger til andre europeiske ledere, til Ukrainas president Zelenskyj, forteller han.\\n\\nAlexander Stubb har ytterligere en relasjon til Donald Trump som StĂžre ikke har.\\n\\n## Golf\\\\-mĂžtet\\n\\nI sin ungdom var Stubb pĂ„ Finlands ungdomslandslag i golf. 29. mars i fjor gikk Stubb og Trump ut pĂ„ Trump International Golf Club i Florida.\\n\\nù Jeg fikk syv timer pĂ„ tomannshĂ„nd med USAs president, mer enn alle mine forgjengere til sammen. Jeg skal ikke overvurdere min relasjon med presidenten, men jeg mener det var vel anvendt tid.\\n\\nDe var et team pĂ„ fem og spilte Ă«best ballĂ», hvor de to beste scorene pĂ„ hvert hull talte. De vekslet mellom Ă„ score par og birdies. I en turnering med rundt 30 team, vant laget med de to presidentene.\\n\\n*ù Hva fikk du og Finland igjen for det?*\\n\\nù I ettertid tekster vi, vi ringes og vi diskuterer. Jeg tror det har vĂŠrt nyttig ved at vi etterpĂ„ har solgt 11 isbrytere til USA. Det er lett Ă„ glemme at diplomati egentlig har to ben. Det ene er det mellomstatlige forholdet, interessebasert ut fra makt, kultur og historie. Det andre er personlig. Som Finlands president er det min jobb Ă„ ha et bra forhold til USAs president. Om jeg lanserer 10 ideer og han tar en av dem, da har jeg lyktes.\\n\\n## Sier fra\\n\\n*ù PĂ„ grunn av ditt golfspill, er Finland pĂ„ et bedre sted enn andre europeiske land?*\\n\\nù Vi har et omfattende forsvarssamarbeid med USA, basert pĂ„ gjensidig interesse. Andre saker vurderer vi ulikt: Vi tror pĂ„ EU, pĂ„ en liberal verdensorden, og pĂ„ klimatrusselen. Jeg sier fra om at vi er uenig om straffetoll. Samtidig er det i USAs interesse Ă„ trene soldater i Arktis, Ă„ samarbeide om teknologi fordi store deler av deres mobile nettverk er levert av Nokia, og Ă„ samarbeide om sjeldne mineraler.\\n\\n*ù Er det rom for kritikk?*\\n\\nù Jeg er helt Ă„pen om at vi har et annet syn enn Trump i mange saker, som EU og klima. Derfor fungerer det. Jeg sender de samme analysene til Trump: Vi er hjertelig uenig med deg om straffetoll, for eksempel. USAs sikkerhetspolitikk er ogsĂ„ endret. Det er ikke lenger en\\\\-til\\\\-en med oss i Europa.\\n\\n## Trump\\\\-hviskeren\\n\\nI et VG\\\\-intervju i 2024 fortalte Stubbs forgjenger Sauli Niinistö [om sine samtaler med Vladimir Putin](/nyheter/i/O84KqO/finlands-president-om-putin-samtalene-vi-burde-ha-forstaatt), og hvordan han ble lĂžyet for i tiden fĂžr Putin beordret invasjonen i Ukraina.\\n\\n**Niinistö ble kalt Putin\\\\-hviskeren. Stubb omtales nĂ„ som Trump\\\\-hviskeren.**\\n\\n*ù Hva slags kontakt har du med Putin?*\\n\\nù Vi har ikke snakket sammen siden jeg ble president for to Ă„r siden. Finske myndigheter har kontakt pĂ„ lavere nivĂ„er med Russland om grensespĂžrsmĂ„l og annet praktisk.\\n\\n*ù Vil du kunne ha tillit til Putin etter Ukraina\\\\-krigen?*\\n\\nù VĂ„r 1340 kilometer grense mot Russland, den gĂ„r ikke over. ĂÂ
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class=\"article-body\" itemprop=\"articleBody\" style=\"display: contents\"> <div class=\"layout-component layout-padded layout-normal _tts_1njly_1\" data-track-id=\"tts:37310\" data-track-impression data-track-name=\"SMS-diplomaten\" data-track-target-newsroom=\"vgtts\"><astro-island await-children client=\"load\" component-export=\"TTSPlayer\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/video.mhxDKcCw.js\" opts=\"{"name":"TTSPlayer","value":true}\" prefix=\"r230\" props=\"{"assetId":[0,37310],"vendor":[0,"vgtts"],"isApp":[0,false]}\" renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"1WTMzl\"><div class=\"_svpContainer_1nwbk_1\"><div id=\"svp-video-37310-«r230R0»\"></div></div><div class=\"_perspective_1nwbk_11\"><div class=\"_controls_1nwbk_16\"><div class=\"_initial_1nwbk_33\"><button aria-disabled=\"true\" aria-label=\"Laster inn lytt til saken avspiller\" class=\"_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large 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component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/ArticleSummary.GlYpg37Z.js\" opts=\"{"name":"ArticleSummary","value":true}\" prefix=\"r13\" props=\"{"articleSummary":[1,[[0,{"items":[1,[[0,{"value":[0,"Finlands president Alexander Stubb sier Ukraina er pĂ„ vei til Ă„ vinne krigen mot Russland."],"markup":[1,[]]}],[0,{"value":[0,"Han trekker paralleller til Finlands tap av Karelen etter krigen i 1944."],"markup":[1,[]]}],[0,{"value":[0,"Stubb mener FN mĂ„ reformeres og stormakter bĂžr gi opp vetoretten."],"markup":[1,[]]}],[0,{"value":[0,"Han fremhever sitt nĂŠre forhold til Jonas Gahr StĂžre, og forteller om den lange golfrunden med USAs president."],"markup":[1,[]]}]]],"blockType":[0,"list:unordered"]}]]],"type":[0,"feature"],"introType":[0,"sticky"]}\" renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"22ygOb\"><div class=\"_summary_64s2r_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded\"><track-element data-track-element-type=\"Article Summary\" data-track-id=\"article-summary\" data-track-impression=\"\" data-track-name=\"Article Summary\"><section aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-label=\"Utvid\" class=\"_box_1mfx9_1 font-vg-sans layout-component layout-normal _box_64s2r_31\" id=\"«r13R0»\" role=\"region\" style=\"max-height:var(--height)\"><div class=\"_titleContainer_64s2r_44\"><h2 class=\"title-serif-s _title_64s2r_44\">Kortversjonen</h2><button aria-label=\"Vis informasjon\" class=\"_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large _button_64s2r_20\" data-track-id=\"article-summary-disclaimer\" data-track-name=\"Article Summary Disclaimer\" role=\"button\" type=\"button\"><svg aria-label=\"Ai\" fill=\"none\" height=\"24px\" role=\"graphics-symbol\" style=\"flex-shrink:0;height:var(--icon-size, var(--space-l));width:auto\" viewbox=\"0 0 24 24\" width=\"24px\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\"><path d=\"M12.4244 11.4646L17.3 13.2687V15.3201L12.4244 17.1242L10.6202 22H8.56907L6.76485 17.1242L2 15.361V13.2278L6.76485 11.4646L8.52796 6.69995H10.6613L12.4244 11.4646Z\" fill=\"var(--icon-color, currentColor)\"></path><path d=\"M19.6103 4.33579L22 5.22004V6.22577L19.6103 7.11012L18.7259 9.50008H17.7203L16.8359 7.11012L14.5 6.24569V5.20012L16.8359 4.33579L17.7003 2.00003H18.7459L19.6103 4.33579Z\" fill=\"var(--icon-color, currentColor)\"></path></svg></button></div><div class=\"_disclaimer_64s2r_50\" hidden=\"\"><span class=\"_text_64s2r_64\" data-nosnippet=\"true\">Oppsummeringen er laget med kunstig intelligens og<!-- --> <a href=\"https://www.vg.no/informasjon/redaksjonelle-avgjorelser/183\">kvalitetssikret av VGs journalister.</a></span></div><ul class=\"_list_o9xde_3 _list_64s2r_85 _unordered_o9xde_106 text-sans-m\"><li class=\"_item_o9xde_30\">Finlands president Alexander Stubb sier Ukraina er pĂ„ vei til Ă„ vinne krigen mot Russland.</li><li class=\"_item_o9xde_30\">Han trekker paralleller til Finlands tap av Karelen etter krigen i 1944.</li><li class=\"_item_o9xde_30\">Stubb mener FN mĂ„ reformeres og stormakter bĂžr gi opp vetoretten.</li><li class=\"_item_o9xde_30\">Han fremhever sitt nĂŠre forhold til Jonas Gahr StĂžre, og forteller om den lange golfrunden med USAs president.</li></ul><button aria-controls=\"«r13R0»\" class=\"_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large _hug_6bkpv_81 _filled_6bkpv_106 _button_1mfx9_76\" role=\"button\" type=\"button\"><span>Vis <!-- -->mer</span></button></section></track-element></div><!--astro:end--></astro-island> <p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Iskald vind sniker seg rundt gatehjĂžrnene i Helsingfors. Fjorden er like frosset som Finlands forhold til Russland. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"> Isbrytere jobber dag og natt for Ă„ holde rĂ„ker Ă„pne for skipstrafikken som forbinder hovedstaden med omverdenen. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Innerst i havnen ligger presidentpalasset. 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4e5c862e-1561-4d9d-9af4-863b350df24e?format=auto&w=1440&s=93278d552a644e0bd03535a710f58dae00d680b4 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4e5c862e-1561-4d9d-9af4-863b350df24e?format=auto&w=2160&s=2d87eea7df44d35ebdffa1a8733792df351195c0 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"7065\"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island></div><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Mistet Karelen </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Stubbs farmor og farfar var fĂždt i <abbr class=\"_explanation_o9xde_140\" tabindex=\"0\" title=\"Et geografisk omrĂ„de som strekker seg fra de mest Ăžstlige og sĂžrĂžstlige delene av Finland mot Russland.\">Karelen<span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151\" role=\"presentation\"><span class=\"text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156\">Karelen</span>Et geografisk omrĂ„de som strekker seg fra de mest Ăžstlige og sĂžrĂžstlige delene av Finland mot Russland.</span></abbr>, som ble sovjetisk territorium i 1944 etter utmattende krigsĂ„r. Finland mĂ„tte ogsĂ„ betale enorme belĂžp i krigserstatning til Moskva, og ble tvunget til et rettsoppgjĂžr. </p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_2\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Finlands tidligere president Risto Ryti ble dĂžmt til 10 Ă„rs fengsel. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Vi fikk beholde vĂ„r selvstendighet, men vi tapte vĂ„r suverenitet, sier Stubb.</strong></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Sovjetunionen dikterte vilkĂ„rene: I starten fikk vi ikke vĂŠre med i Nordisk rĂ„d, i FN eller i EFTA.</p><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Fire Ă„r med krig </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Tirsdag 24. februar er det fire Ă„r siden russiske stridsvogner rullet mot Kyiv. Etter krigens fĂžrste fase har Russland i liten grad lyktes med Ă„ erobre mer av Ukrainas landareal. De siste mĂ„nedene har Putin gjort alt han kan for Ă„ fryse ut befolkningen. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"> <em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Kan det vĂŠre en lĂžsning for Ukraina, Ă„ gi bort areal i bytte med fred slik Finland mĂ„tte i 1944?</strong></em></p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_3\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Ut fra vĂ„r historie, forstĂ„r finnene det som holder pĂ„ Ă„ skje i Ukraina. Men Ukraina er i en langt bedre situasjon en Finland var i, forklarer han.</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Ukraina har ikke tapt denne krigen, slĂ„r Stubb fast.</strong></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Det er Russland som har tapt, bĂ„de militĂŠrt, strategisk og Ăžkonomisk. Selv om Russland kontrollerer 20 prosent av Ukrainas areal, har de bare klart Ă„ ta ytterligere en prosent de to siste Ă„rene. 65.000 russiske soldater dĂžde bare i desember og januar. Da forstĂ„r du at Russland ikke kan vinne denne krigen. Ukraina vil ogsĂ„ fĂ„ sikkerhetsgarantier fra USA og Europa. Det hadde ikke Finland i 1944. Vi sto helt alene, sier den finske presidenten.</p><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">FN-reformer </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">Vi snakket ogsĂ„ med den finske presidenten om <a class=\"_link_o9xde_39\" data-track-element-type=\"Link\" data-track-id=\"link:dR89Oz\" href=\"/nyheter/i/dR89Oz/president-stubb-vi-beveger-oss-mer-mot-mistillitssiden\">golf-runden som ga en unik tilgang til USAs president. </a></strong></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">Han skal i tillegg fortelle mer om <a class=\"_link_o9xde_39\" data-track-element-type=\"Link\" data-track-id=\"link:kw63BX\" href=\"/nyheter/i/kw63BX/stoere-paa-teambuilding-i-bodoe-med-kristersson-og-stubb\">det nĂŠre vennskapet med Jonas Gahr StĂžre. </a></strong></p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_4\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Men fĂžrst: Alexander Stubb mener at FN mĂ„ reformeres. Ett av forslagene er at stormaktene mĂ„ oppgi sin vetorett i FNs sikkerhetsrĂ„d, og landene i sĂžr mĂ„ fĂ„ mer Ă„ si. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Jeg kaller det for verdibasert realisme, sier Stubb.</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Det har han skrevet en bok om. «En ny verdensorden» er nĂ„ ute pĂ„ norsk.</p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r153\" 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renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"ZzmulH\"><figure class=\"_figure_qp4xg_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"_image_qp4xg_65 layout-component layout-normal\" data-fullscreen-sizes=\"(min-width: 1000px) 2000px, 2000vw\" data-track-element-type=\"Article image fullscreen\" data-track-name=\"ImageFullscreen\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"5477\" itemprop=\"image\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"(min-width: 980px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=40&s=b07f83c9d05163c1484fad72def62e8dfb0f9eca\" srcset=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=40&s=b07f83c9d05163c1484fad72def62e8dfb0f9eca 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=80&s=249a33cc7f25b3245904ea34fd6edb8c77b41aa0 80w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=100&s=78ff0387ac3e19c8beda09c267ae0980721560ec 100w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=200&s=581c19070dcbc44258d81dc05f53c602d13eb921 200w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=240&s=3124d5b9aae1fc68ac8eadb654c410a75fcd17a1 240w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=480&s=d2878b26c5c9d5e16a4b65093f7248b5bd4efe75 480w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=580&s=eacfcb7f4cf418af7a52b50226e120f1c71193b4 580w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=720&s=74b01bdb82b3d7c929c7c0ea203fdf8b7582684b 720w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=1080&s=d5b44b5af84e93c475535f430ffba379779e9eb6 1080w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=1440&s=7594b1aafebeaf920514d1a5955993ca39c898ac 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=2160&s=699062d03b7bd26222c318bd1fac14902acc60c8 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"7303\"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Optimist av natur </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â VĂ„re nordiske verdier som frihet, sikkerhet, menneskerettigheter og demokrati mĂ„ ligge fast. Men for Ă„ lĂžse verdens stĂžrste problemer som handler om klima, konflikter, energi og teknologi, da mĂ„ du samarbeide med land som ikke har de samme verdiene, fortsetter han.</p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_5\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Tror du virkelig at de fem faste medlemmene av SikkerhetsrĂ„det vil gi opp sin vetorett? </strong></em></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Det vet jeg ikke. Men om man er optimist av natur, sĂ„ mĂ„ man i det minste forsĂžke Ă„ tenke nytt, sier Stubb.</p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"FactBox\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/FactBox.3qMhHu30.js\" opts=\"{"name":"FactBox","value":true}\" prefix=\"r159\" props=\"{"component":[0,{"title":[0,{"value":[0,"Dette er Alexander Stubb"]}],"paragraphs":[1,[[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Cai-Göran Alexander Stubb (fĂždt 1. april 1968) har vĂŠrt Finlands president siden 1. mars 2024. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Han vokste opp i Helsingfors i et tosprĂ„klig hjem: moren var finsksprĂ„klig mens faren snakket svensk og var toppsjef i Finlands ishockeyforbund og talentspeider for den amerikanske ishockeyligaen NHL. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Alexander Stubb har studert ved universiteter i USA, Frankrike, Belgia og Storbritannia, og har en doktorgrad i statsvitenskap fra London School of Economics. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Etter en periode som folkevalgt i EU-parlamentet for Samlingspartiet, som er HĂžyres finske sĂžsterparti, ble Stubb utnevnt til utenriksminister i Finland i 2008. Han fortsatte i ulike finske koalisjonsregjeringer som europaminister, statsminister og finansminister fram til 2016. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"I 2017 forlot han Finland for Ă„ bli visepresident i den europeiske investeringsbanken. Fra 2020 og fram til han startet president-kampanjen hĂžsten 2023, var han professor i statsvitenskap ved Europa-universitetet i Firenze. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Stubb vant europamesterskapet i triatlon i sin aldersklasse i 2022. I fjor sommer tok han annenplassen i et triatlon-stevne i Finland, som besto av 750 meter svĂžmming, 20 kilometer sykling og 5 kilometer lĂžping."],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}]]],"type":[0,"fact"]}],"type":[0,"feature"]}\" renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"Zsweyi\"><div class=\"_factbox_16v91_30 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded\"><section aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-label=\"Utvid\" class=\"_box_1mfx9_1 font-vg-sans layout-component layout-normal _box_16v91_39\" id=\"«r159R0»\" role=\"region\" style=\"max-height:var(--height)\"><h2 class=\"_title_16v91_25 title-serif-s\">Dette er Alexander Stubb</h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Cai-Göran Alexander Stubb (fĂždt 1. april 1968) har vĂŠrt Finlands president siden 1. mars 2024. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Han vokste opp i Helsingfors i et tosprĂ„klig hjem: moren var finsksprĂ„klig mens faren snakket svensk og var toppsjef i Finlands ishockeyforbund og talentspeider for den amerikanske ishockeyligaen NHL. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Alexander Stubb har studert ved universiteter i USA, Frankrike, Belgia og Storbritannia, og har en doktorgrad i statsvitenskap fra London School of Economics. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Etter en periode som folkevalgt i EU-parlamentet for Samlingspartiet, som er HĂžyres finske sĂžsterparti, ble Stubb utnevnt til utenriksminister i Finland i 2008. Han fortsatte i ulike finske koalisjonsregjeringer som europaminister, statsminister og finansminister fram til 2016. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">I 2017 forlot han Finland for Ă„ bli visepresident i den europeiske investeringsbanken. Fra 2020 og fram til han startet president-kampanjen hĂžsten 2023, var han professor i statsvitenskap ved Europa-universitetet i Firenze. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Stubb vant europamesterskapet i triatlon i sin aldersklasse i 2022. I fjor sommer tok han annenplassen i et triatlon-stevne i Finland, som besto av 750 meter svĂžmming, 20 kilometer sykling og 5 kilometer lĂžping.</p><button aria-controls=\"«r159R0»\" class=\"_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large _hug_6bkpv_81 _filled_6bkpv_106 _button_1mfx9_76\" data-track-element-type=\"Factbox\" data-track-id=\"factbox:dette-er-alexander-stubb\" data-track-impression=\"true\" data-track-name=\"Dette er Alexander Stubb\" role=\"button\" type=\"button\"><span>Vis <!-- -->mer</span></button></section></div><!--astro:end--></astro-island><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Maktens triangel </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">I boken beskriver Stubb «maktens triangel»: Tre ideologier som han kaller det globale vest, det globale sĂžr og det globale Ăžst. Samspillet mellom dem vil pĂ„virke den nye verdensordenen.</p><article class=\"layout-component layout-normal layout-padded _small_1woao_91 mb-cpg\"><a class=\"_link_1woao_14\" data-track-id=\"teaser:6q6kvr\" data-track-impression=\"true\" data-track-name=\"Bokanmeldelse: Men hva med Trump?\" href=\"https://www.vg.no/rampelys/i/6q6kvr/men-hva-med-trump\"><h3 class=\"title-serif-xs _title_1woao_44\">Bokanmeldelse: Men hva med Trump?</h3><figure class=\"_figure_1woao_1\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"_image_1woao_6\" height=\"2422\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"200px\" src=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=40&s=7759e1e71f4600f4511fd9c1043a2ac9dc27120f\" srcset=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=40&s=7759e1e71f4600f4511fd9c1043a2ac9dc27120f 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=80&s=8a76c711afffcf46fbbea79384a78e771e2c3d66 80w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=100&s=babbe8b7faf71cf51190fcc2eab830df75ba4907 100w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=200&s=ba7d8689c97895fca90333d8e9b913b0174d6e1b 200w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=240&s=09ca7fbefb17fb77198e86602f017bb6f3fff8e9 240w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=480&s=5291c9c557c7a153ddccec7d7ff0b8cc262537c1 480w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=580&s=96d15162aae278e9eafe13b0245326c66570d1dd 580w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=720&s=4a8f0d2bf5e95f244f4a7708879071042677fba4 720w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=1080&s=fe59e64c6bb4a51d44cad9c7aebfdba9e31abfda 1080w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=1440&s=469bb1ed0f64bb1e3ee0147caf5a39d47ebe10fa 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=2160&s=461d6327c90978d40ed54d388e8fbab27e78757a 2160w\" width=\"2653\"></figure></a></article><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Vi ser at verden er i endring, men vi vet ennĂ„ ikke hvor den er pĂ„ vei. I boken argumenterer jeg for at det vil gĂ„ noen Ă„r, kanskje til 2030, fĂžr en ny verdensorden kommer pĂ„ plass. Akkurat nĂ„ er vi i en periode hvor mektige aktĂžrer prĂžver Ă„ posisjonere seg der det finnes maktvakuum. Kina gjĂžr det, og Trumps nye fredsforum har ambisjoner om Ă„ gjĂžre det, sier han. </p><div class=\"responsive\"><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r163\" 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4a0ce8fa-f9ff-43a6-9ddf-d35c0aa77cd8?format=auto&w=1440&s=82d4ce776550ac3229f83cac334c618273c4ddcd 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4a0ce8fa-f9ff-43a6-9ddf-d35c0aa77cd8?format=auto&w=2160&s=9e5777420a3e29bc888c05b0bdb4ba037ae1fddd 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"8256\"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Kampen stĂ„r nĂ„ mellom to motstridende ideologier, ifĂžlge Stubb: <abbr class=\"_explanation_o9xde_140\" tabindex=\"0\" title=\"I Jalta i 1945 la andre verdenskrigs seierherrer â USA, Storbritannia og Sovjetunionen â grunnlaget for en verdensorden basert pĂ„ stormaktenes interesser. \">«Jalta»<span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151\" role=\"presentation\"><span class=\"text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156\">«Jalta»</span>I Jalta i 1945 la andre verdenskrigs seierherrer â USA, Storbritannia og Sovjetunionen â grunnlaget for en verdensorden basert pĂ„ stormaktenes interesser. </span></abbr> eller <abbr class=\"_explanation_o9xde_140\" tabindex=\"0\" title=\"I 1975 kom 35 stater sammen i Helsingfors og etablerte en europeisk sikkerhetsstruktur basert pĂ„ regler, normer, og respekt for gjeldende landegrenser. \">«Helsingfors».<span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151\" role=\"presentation\"><span class=\"text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156\">«Helsingfors».</span>I 1975 kom 35 stater sammen i Helsingfors og etablerte en europeisk sikkerhetsstruktur basert pĂ„ regler, normer, og respekt for gjeldende landegrenser. </span></abbr></p><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Fra krise til lĂžsning </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Stubb argumenterer for at krisene i verden har tĂžmret de europeiske landene mye tettere sammen. Han beskriver EU-samarbeidet i tre typiske faser:</p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_6\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â FĂžrst er det krise, sĂ„ kaos â men sĂ„ finner vi en lĂžsning alle kan leve med, forklarer han.</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Han ramser opp: </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><a class=\"_link_o9xde_39\" data-track-element-type=\"Link\" data-track-id=\"link:aAMbd\" href=\"/nyheter/i/aAMbd/slik-splitter-brexit-storbritannia\">Brexit </a>dro de europeiske landene tettere sammen. SĂ„ kom covid, krigen i Ukraina, og energikrisen som landene samarbeidet om Ă„ lĂžse. Legg til sikkerhetstrusselen fra Russland, og «et visst trykk fra USA», som Stubb beskriver. </p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r173\" 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/7702ac14-b448-4426-813c-59228ffaf7ea?format=auto&w=1440&s=822851a6e0bc1e79b1a069d501a192b4c8cd3ca1 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/7702ac14-b448-4426-813c-59228ffaf7ea?format=auto&w=2160&s=edfc4aed8b4c194610f1ab61ed04a541b7adadab 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"3263\"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Den han snakker mest med </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">Stubbs nĂŠrmeste samtalepartner i Europa er imidlertid ikke medlem i EU:</strong></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Skal jeg trekke fram den europeiske lederen som jeg har mest kommunikasjon med, sĂ„ er det Jonas Gahr StĂžre, sier han.</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">StĂžre har ogsĂ„ bekreftet den tette kontakten med president Stubb. De snakker sammen eller utveksler SMS-er omtrent hver eneste dag.</p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_7\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Hvordan kan Norge vĂŠre pĂ„ innsiden av de store beslutningene i Europa uten Ă„ vĂŠre medlem i EU?</strong></em></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â EU-medlemskapet er en beslutning Norge selv mĂ„ ta, selv om jeg personlig skulle Ăžnske at Storbritannia Island og Norge var med. 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Jonas er svĂŠrt aktiv i utenriks- og sikkerhetspolitikken. Den interessen har vi begge som tidligere utenriksministre. Norge bidrar med Ăžkt sikkerhet for oss som nytt medlem i Nato. NĂ„ samarbeider Finland, Sverige og Norge mye tettere om forsvar.</p><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">SMS til Trump </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">SĂžndag 18. januar sendte StĂžre og Stubb en felles tekstmelding til Donald Trump. De ramset opp uenighet om GrĂžnland, Gaza, Ukraina og straffetoll, og ba om et snarlig mĂžte.</p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r188\" props=\"{"alt":[0],"caption":[0,"Foto: Hallgeir VĂ„genes / 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/96ce3533-6b7e-4dfe-904a-2b125daae56a?format=auto&w=1440&s=23ba348da58ebe99c99f035594b96743a9705d1e 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/96ce3533-6b7e-4dfe-904a-2b125daae56a?format=auto&w=2160&s=610205b1f750a102a1815aecd24ce4653b7eda5e 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"3647\"><figcaption class=\"text-sans-s _caption_qp4xg_10 layout-component\">Foto: Hallgeir VĂ„genes / VG</figcaption></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><a class=\"_link_o9xde_39\" data-track-element-type=\"Link\" data-track-id=\"link:q6AdB0\" href=\"/nyheter/i/q6AdB0/trump-i-melding-til-stoere-foeler-ikke-lenger-noen-forpliktelse\">27 minutter senere fikk StĂžre svar</a> fra Trump, som den amerikanske presidenten publiserte i sosiale medier: Ettersom Norge ikke ga Trump Nobels fredspris, var Trump ikke lengre forpliktet til Ă„ tenke fred alltid. Trump gjentok ogsĂ„ kravet om Ă„ overgi GrĂžnland til USA. </p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"FactBox\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/FactBox.3qMhHu30.js\" opts=\"{"name":"FactBox","value":true}\" prefix=\"r190\" props=\"{"component":[0,{"title":[0,{"value":[0,"Slik var SMS-utvekslingen "]}],"paragraphs":[1,[[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Tekstmelding fra statsminister StĂžre til president Trump 18. januar kl. 15:48: «Dear Mr president, dear Donald â on the contact across the Atlantic â on Greenland, Gaza, Ukraine â and your tariff announcement yesterday. You know our position on these issues. But we believe we all should work to take this down and de-escalate â so much is happening around us where we need to stand together. We are proposing a call with you later today â with both of us or separately â give us a hint of what you prefer! Best â Alex and Jonas»"],"markup":[1,[[0,{"type":[0,"style:em"],"offset":[0,80],"length":[0,448]}]]]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Tekstmelding fra president Trump til statsminister StĂžre 18. januar kl. 16:15: «Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a âright of ownershipâ anyway? There are no written documents, itâs only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT»"],"markup":[1,[[0,{"type":[0,"style:em"],"offset":[0,80],"length":[0,757]}]]]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}]]],"type":[0,"fact"]}],"type":[0,"feature"]}\" renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"aJa32\"><div class=\"_factbox_16v91_30 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded\"><section aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-label=\"Utvid\" class=\"_box_1mfx9_1 font-vg-sans layout-component layout-normal _box_16v91_39\" id=\"«r190R0»\" role=\"region\" style=\"max-height:var(--height)\"><h2 class=\"_title_16v91_25 title-serif-s\">Slik var SMS-utvekslingen </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Tekstmelding fra statsminister StĂžre til president Trump 18. januar kl. 15:48: «<em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\">Dear Mr president, dear Donald â on the contact across the Atlantic â on Greenland, Gaza, Ukraine â and your tariff announcement yesterday. You know our position on these issues. But we believe we all should work to take this down and de-escalate â so much is happening around us where we need to stand together. We are proposing a call with you later today â with both of us or separately â give us a hint of what you prefer! Best â Alex and Jonas</em>»</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Tekstmelding fra president Trump til statsminister StĂžre 18. januar kl. 16:15: «<em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\">Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a âright of ownershipâ anyway? There are no written documents, itâs only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT</em>»</p><button aria-controls=\"«r190R0»\" class=\"_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large _hug_6bkpv_81 _filled_6bkpv_106 _button_1mfx9_76\" data-track-element-type=\"Factbox\" data-track-id=\"factbox:slik-var-sms-utvekslingen\" data-track-impression=\"true\" data-track-name=\"Slik var SMS-utvekslingen \" role=\"button\" type=\"button\"><span>Vis <!-- -->mer</span></button></section></div><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Jeg fikk den nĂžyaktig samme meldingen. Det sto «Dear Jonas» pĂ„ min ogsĂ„, bekrefter Stubb.</p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_8\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Vi melder ofte med Trump, og vi gjĂžr det sammen. Vi sender felles meldinger til andre europeiske ledere, til Ukrainas president Zelenskyj, forteller han.</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Alexander Stubb har ytterligere en relasjon til Donald Trump som StĂžre ikke har. </p><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Golf-mĂžtet </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">I sin ungdom var Stubb pĂ„ Finlands ungdomslandslag i golf. 29. mars i fjor gikk Stubb og Trump ut pĂ„ Trump International Golf Club i Florida. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Jeg fikk syv timer pĂ„ tomannshĂ„nd med USAs president, mer enn alle mine forgjengere til sammen. Jeg skal ikke overvurdere min relasjon med presidenten, men jeg mener det var vel anvendt tid.</p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r198\" props=\"{"alt":[0],"caption":[0,"Foto: Finnish Presidential Office via Instagram"],"device":[0],"editorialJudgment":[0],"imageAsset":[0,{"id":[0,"2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a"],"size":[0,{"width":[0,877],"height":[0,1170]}],"hotspot":[0,{"x":[0,213],"y":[0,76],"width":[0,427],"height":[0,320]}],"urls":[1,[[0,{"height":[0,53],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=40&s=38171b5210c29edf92548e140caf128dc87144d6"],"width":[0,40]}],[0,{"height":[0,107],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=80&s=c4d32ae9b0cbe6ee821b900f7cd9735e46ada8e1"],"width":[0,80]}],[0,{"height":[0,133],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=100&s=1fac5f0ff24d1c2dfdefcf6ae98fac0d7313e53a"],"width":[0,100]}],[0,{"height":[0,267],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=200&s=14c1dc3d3e3f16eeab079d32729d1cf28b1ef859"],"width":[0,200]}],[0,{"height":[0,320],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=240&s=2ed439ca0bf2359308bc0e7dd68a0742cbfc9aa3"],"width":[0,240]}],[0,{"height":[0,640],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=480&s=8cbf5bbf1d9021058197c164238b4a33243be41d"],"width":[0,480]}],[0,{"height":[0,774],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=580&s=c9d9b0861297248f3a59c2bc188999494fc6fa40"],"width":[0,580]}],[0,{"height":[0,961],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=720&s=d35bf401e5e2642c590297506b41f922e8a91b40"],"width":[0,720]}]]]}],"layout":[0],"marginBottom":[0],"padded":[0],"type":[0,"feature"]}\" renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"ZhiJY5\"><figure class=\"_figure_qp4xg_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded\"><img alt=\"Foto: Finnish Presidential Office via Instagram\" class=\"_image_qp4xg_65 layout-component layout-normal\" data-fullscreen-sizes=\"(min-width: 1000px) 2000px, 2000vw\" data-track-element-type=\"Article image fullscreen\" data-track-name=\"ImageFullscreen\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"1170\" itemprop=\"image\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"(min-width: 980px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=40&s=38171b5210c29edf92548e140caf128dc87144d6\" srcset=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=40&s=38171b5210c29edf92548e140caf128dc87144d6 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=80&s=c4d32ae9b0cbe6ee821b900f7cd9735e46ada8e1 80w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=100&s=1fac5f0ff24d1c2dfdefcf6ae98fac0d7313e53a 100w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=200&s=14c1dc3d3e3f16eeab079d32729d1cf28b1ef859 200w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=240&s=2ed439ca0bf2359308bc0e7dd68a0742cbfc9aa3 240w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=480&s=8cbf5bbf1d9021058197c164238b4a33243be41d 480w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=580&s=c9d9b0861297248f3a59c2bc188999494fc6fa40 580w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=720&s=d35bf401e5e2642c590297506b41f922e8a91b40 720w\" style=\"object-position:48.63169897377423% 20.17094017094017%\" width=\"877\"><figcaption class=\"text-sans-s _caption_qp4xg_10 layout-component\">Foto: Finnish Presidential Office via Instagram</figcaption></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">De var et <abbr class=\"_explanation_o9xde_140\" tabindex=\"0\" title=\"Stubb's medspillere er, ifĂžlge boken, senator Lindsey Graham, golflegenden Gary Player, Fox-anker Trey Gowdy og president Donald Trump.\">team pĂ„ fem<span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151\" role=\"presentation\"><span class=\"text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156\">team pĂ„ fem</span>Stubb's medspillere er, ifĂžlge boken, senator Lindsey Graham, golflegenden Gary Player, Fox-anker Trey Gowdy og president Donald Trump.</span></abbr> og spilte «best ball», hvor de to beste scorene pĂ„ hvert hull talte. De vekslet mellom Ă„ score par og birdies. I en turnering med rundt 30 team, vant laget med de to presidentene. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Hva fikk du og Finland igjen for det?</strong></em></p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_9\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â I ettertid tekster vi, vi ringes og vi diskuterer. Jeg tror det har vĂŠrt nyttig ved at vi etterpĂ„ har solgt 11 isbrytere til USA. Det er lett Ă„ glemme at diplomati egentlig har to ben. Det ene er det mellomstatlige forholdet, interessebasert ut fra makt, kultur og historie. Det andre er personlig. Som Finlands president er det min jobb Ă„ ha et bra forhold til USAs president. Om jeg lanserer 10 ideer og han tar en av dem, da har jeg lyktes.</p><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Sier fra </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â PĂ„ grunn av ditt golfspill, er Finland pĂ„ et bedre sted enn andre europeiske land?</strong></em></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Vi har et omfattende forsvarssamarbeid med USA, basert pĂ„ gjensidig interesse. Andre saker vurderer vi ulikt: Vi tror pĂ„ EU, pĂ„ en liberal verdensorden, og pĂ„ klimatrusselen. Jeg sier fra om at vi er uenig om straffetoll. Samtidig er det i USAs interesse Ă„ trene soldater i Arktis, Ă„ samarbeide om teknologi fordi store deler av deres mobile nettverk er levert av Nokia, og Ă„ samarbeide om sjeldne mineraler. </p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r206\" 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renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"ZMhTBJ\"><figure class=\"_figure_qp4xg_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"_image_qp4xg_65 layout-component layout-normal\" data-fullscreen-sizes=\"(min-width: 1000px) 2000px, 2000vw\" data-track-element-type=\"Article image fullscreen\" data-track-name=\"ImageFullscreen\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"5482\" itemprop=\"image\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"(min-width: 980px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=40&s=e0f6ceffc50c002f84229490ebeb7cb9b8d5ab47\" srcset=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=40&s=e0f6ceffc50c002f84229490ebeb7cb9b8d5ab47 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=80&s=08d0331f1f3fbf77935b7ef83869c5f49e089624 80w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=100&s=8f217d18293cab647e07b8b4ab5415c757aa6be9 100w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=200&s=0af674794e575a7802d7b57745dcfca82eb27267 200w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=240&s=efab5bbffefbdb7d36830679e617d7c6da820ac8 240w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=480&s=7230a66103ca00495219a00db02e172c91c91afd 480w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=580&s=eeddc6e325d98bab35d69bb0194a574dc81dba91 580w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=720&s=47486cde660369d2212226da05173954bbc0c935 720w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=1080&s=d5cdc70fdc61a86e2a59449d7cdb46ff2667af42 1080w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=1440&s=0607397fe1c9c98ff643de77a48be60ea1fdbee0 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=2160&s=88f022225cb160864e26509aa7d206a803977497 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"7309\"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Er det rom for kritikk?</strong></em></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Jeg er helt Ă„pen om at vi har et annet syn enn Trump i mange saker, som EU og klima. Derfor fungerer det. Jeg sender de samme analysene til Trump: Vi er hjertelig uenig med deg om straffetoll, for eksempel. USAs sikkerhetspolitikk er ogsĂ„ endret. Det er ikke lenger en-til-en med oss i Europa.</p><div class=\"responsive\"><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r209\" 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d832bfbc-4243-410b-b6d6-566dc7f023b7?format=auto&w=1440&s=88de16749f7789a3afc44d893d46b6f2894ef4fb 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d832bfbc-4243-410b-b6d6-566dc7f023b7?format=auto&w=2160&s=ba9a541817444331afe66c9177a721742ef54de9 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"4496\"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island></div><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Trump-hviskeren </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">I et VG-intervju i 2024 fortalte Stubbs forgjenger Sauli Niinistö <a class=\"_link_o9xde_39\" data-track-element-type=\"Link\" data-track-id=\"link:O84KqO\" href=\"/nyheter/i/O84KqO/finlands-president-om-putin-samtalene-vi-burde-ha-forstaatt\">om sine samtaler med Vladimir Putin</a>, og hvordan han ble lĂžyet for i tiden fĂžr Putin beordret invasjonen i Ukraina. </p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_10\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">Niinistö ble kalt Putin-hviskeren. Stubb omtales nĂ„ som Trump-hviskeren.</strong></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Hva slags kontakt har du med Putin?</strong></em></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Vi har ikke snakket sammen siden jeg ble president for to Ă„r siden. Finske myndigheter har kontakt pĂ„ lavere nivĂ„er med Russland om grensespĂžrsmĂ„l og annet praktisk. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Vil du kunne ha tillit til Putin etter Ukraina-krigen?</strong></em></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â VĂ„r 1340 kilometer grense mot Russland, den gĂ„r ikke over. Ă
bygge tillit med Russland igjen kan ta flere tiĂ„r. Da er muligens dagens russiske ledere erstattet, og vi kan ikke vite hvordan de vil forholde seg til Finland.</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Mange spĂ„r en massiv russisk opprustning mot Nato nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen tar slutt?</strong></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â I vĂ„r analyse er det selvsagt at vi vil ha flere russiske soldater nĂŠrt vĂ„re grenser nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen er over. Det er ikke noe nytt. Men Russland vet hvor sterkt vĂ„rt forsvar er. 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Author: Alf Bjarne Johnsen
Published: 2026-02-24 05:03:52
Updated: 2026-02-24 07:11:59
Category: Nyheter
đ Summary
â Ukraina er pĂ„ vei til Ă„ vinne krigen mot Russland, sier Finlands president Alexander Stubb.
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Iskald vind sniker seg rundt gatehjĂžrnene i Helsingfors. Fjorden er like frosset som Finlands forhold til Russland.
Isbrytere jobber dag og natt for Ä holde rÄker Äpne for skipstrafikken som forbinder hovedstaden med omverdenen.
Innerst i havnen ligger presidentpalasset. Der inne sitter Alexander Stubb (57) og forteller VG om hvordan isen kan brytes, og en ny verdensorden kan utformes.
Og hvorfor han mener at Russland er i ferd med Ă„ tape krigen i Ukraina.
Mistet Karelen
Stubbs farmor og farfar var fÞdt i Karelen, som ble sovjetisk territorium i 1944 etter utmattende krigsÄr. Finland mÄtte ogsÄ betale enorme belÞp i krigserstatning til Moskva, og ble tvunget til et rettsoppgjÞr.
Finlands tidligere president Risto Ryti ble dĂžmt til 10 Ă„rs fengsel.
â Vi fikk beholde vĂ„r selvstendighet, men vi tapte vĂ„r suverenitet, sier Stubb.
â Sovjetunionen dikterte vilkĂ„rene: I starten fikk vi ikke vĂŠre med i Nordisk rĂ„d, i FN eller i EFTA.
Fire Ă„r med krig
Tirsdag 24. februar er det fire Är siden russiske stridsvogner rullet mot Kyiv. Etter krigens fÞrste fase har Russland i liten grad lyktes med Ä erobre mer av Ukrainas landareal. De siste mÄnedene har Putin gjort alt han kan for Ä fryse ut befolkningen.
â Kan det vĂŠre en lĂžsning for Ukraina, Ă„ gi bort areal i bytte med fred slik Finland mĂ„tte i 1944?
â Ut fra vĂ„r historie, forstĂ„r finnene det som holder pĂ„ Ă„ skje i Ukraina. Men Ukraina er i en langt bedre situasjon enn Finland var i, forklarer han.
â Ukraina har ikke tapt denne krigen, slĂ„r Stubb fast.
â Det er Russland som har tapt, bĂ„de militĂŠrt, strategisk og Ăžkonomisk. Selv om Russland kontrollerer 20 prosent av Ukrainas areal, har de bare klart Ă„ ta ytterligere en prosent de to siste Ă„rene. 65.000 russiske soldater dĂžde bare i desember og januar. Da forstĂ„r du at Russland ikke kan vinne denne krigen. Ukraina vil ogsĂ„ fĂ„ sikkerhetsgarantier fra USA og Europa. Det hadde ikke Finland i 1944. Vi sto helt alene, sier den finske presidenten.
FN-reformer
Vi snakket ogsÄ med den finske presidenten om golf-runden som ga en unik tilgang til USAs president.
Han skal i tillegg fortelle mer om det nĂŠre vennskapet med Jonas Gahr StĂžre.
Men fÞrst: Alexander Stubb mener at FN mÄ reformeres. Ett av forslagene er at stormaktene mÄ oppgi sin vetorett i FNs sikkerhetsrÄd, og landene i sÞr mÄ fÄ mer Ä si.
â Jeg kaller det for verdibasert realisme, sier Stubb.
Det har han skrevet en bok om. «En ny verdensorden» er nÄ ute pÄ norsk.
Optimist av natur
â VĂ„re nordiske verdier som frihet, sikkerhet, menneskerettigheter og demokrati mĂ„ ligge fast. Men for Ă„ lĂžse verdens stĂžrste problemer som handler om klima, konflikter, energi og teknologi, da mĂ„ du samarbeide med land som ikke har de samme verdiene, fortsetter han.
â Tror du virkelig at de fem faste medlemmene av SikkerhetsrĂ„det vil gi opp sin vetorett?
â Det vet jeg ikke. Men om man er optimist av natur, sĂ„ mĂ„ man i det minste forsĂžke Ă„ tenke nytt, sier Stubb.
Maktens triangel
I boken beskriver Stubb «maktens triangel»: Tre ideologier som han kaller det globale vest, det globale sÞr og det globale Þst. Samspillet mellom dem vil pÄvirke den nye verdensordenen.
â Vi ser at verden er i endring, men vi vet ennĂ„ ikke hvor den er pĂ„ vei. I boken argumenterer jeg for at det vil gĂ„ noen Ă„r, kanskje til 2030, fĂžr en ny verdensorden kommer pĂ„ plass. Akkurat nĂ„ er vi i en periode hvor mektige aktĂžrer prĂžver Ă„ posisjonere seg der det finnes maktvakuum. Kina gjĂžr det, og Trumps nye fredsforum har ambisjoner om Ă„ gjĂžre det, sier han.
Kampen stÄr nÄ mellom to motstridende ideologier, ifÞlge Stubb: «Jalta» eller «Helsingfors».
Fra krise til lĂžsning
Stubb argumenterer for at krisene i verden har tĂžmret de europeiske landene mye tettere sammen. Han beskriver EU-samarbeidet i tre typiske faser:
â FĂžrst er det krise, sĂ„ kaos â men sĂ„ finner vi en lĂžsning alle kan leve med, forklarer han.
Han ramser opp:
Brexit dro de europeiske landene tettere sammen. SÄ kom covid, krigen i Ukraina, og energikrisen som landene samarbeidet om Ä lÞse. Legg til sikkerhetstrusselen fra Russland, og «et visst trykk fra USA», som Stubb beskriver.
Den han snakker mest med
Stubbs nĂŠrmeste samtalepartner i Europa er imidlertid ikke medlem i EU:
â Skal jeg trekke fram den europeiske lederen som jeg har mest kommunikasjon med, sĂ„ er det Jonas Gahr StĂžre, sier han.
StÞre har ogsÄ bekreftet den tette kontakten med president Stubb. De snakker sammen eller utveksler SMS-er omtrent hver eneste dag.
â Hvordan kan Norge vĂŠre pĂ„ innsiden av de store beslutningene i Europa uten Ă„ vĂŠre medlem i EU?
â EU-medlemskapet er en beslutning Norge selv mĂ„ ta, selv om jeg personlig skulle Ăžnske at Storbritannia, Island og Norge var med. Men som Nato-medlem er Norge en stor aktĂžr i saker om sikkerhet, og spesielt om Arktis.
â Hva har Norge Ă„ legge pĂ„ bordet, i tillegg til olje og gass, for Ă„ bli hĂžrt?
â Mye handler om personlighet. Jonas er svĂŠrt aktiv i utenriks- og sikkerhetspolitikken. Den interessen har vi begge som tidligere utenriksministre. Norge bidrar med Ăžkt sikkerhet for oss som nytt medlem i Nato. NĂ„ samarbeider Finland, Sverige og Norge mye tettere om forsvar.
SMS til Trump
SĂžndag 18. januar sendte StĂžre og Stubb en felles tekstmelding til Donald Trump. De ramset opp uenighet om GrĂžnland, Gaza, Ukraina og straffetoll, og ba om et snarlig mĂžte.
27 minutter senere fikk StÞre svar fra Trump, som den amerikanske presidenten publiserte i sosiale medier: Ettersom Norge ikke ga Trump Nobels fredspris, var Trump ikke lengre forpliktet til Ä tenke fred alltid. Trump gjentok ogsÄ kravet om Ä overgi GrÞnland til USA.
â Jeg fikk den nĂžyaktig samme meldingen. Det sto «Dear Jonas» pĂ„ min ogsĂ„, bekrefter Stubb.
â Vi melder ofte med Trump, og vi gjĂžr det sammen. Vi sender felles meldinger til andre europeiske ledere, til Ukrainas president Zelenskyj, forteller han.
Alexander Stubb har ytterligere en relasjon til Donald Trump som StĂžre ikke har.
Golf-mĂžtet
I sin ungdom var Stubb pÄ Finlands ungdomslandslag i golf. 29. mars i fjor gikk Stubb og Trump ut pÄ Trump International Golf Club i Florida.
â Jeg fikk syv timer pĂ„ tomannshĂ„nd med USAs president, mer enn alle mine forgjengere til sammen. Jeg skal ikke overvurdere min relasjon med presidenten, men jeg mener det var vel anvendt tid.
De var et team pÄ fem og spilte «best ball», hvor de to beste scorene pÄ hvert hull talte. De vekslet mellom Ä score par og birdies. I en turnering med rundt 30 team, vant laget med de to presidentene.
â Hva fikk du og Finland igjen for det?
â I ettertid tekster vi, vi ringes og vi diskuterer. Jeg tror det har vĂŠrt nyttig ved at vi etterpĂ„ har solgt 11 isbrytere til USA. Det er lett Ă„ glemme at diplomati egentlig har to ben. Det ene er det mellomstatlige forholdet, interessebasert ut fra makt, kultur og historie. Det andre er personlig. Som Finlands president er det min jobb Ă„ ha et bra forhold til USAs president. Om jeg lanserer 10 ideer og han tar en av dem, da har jeg lyktes.
Sier fra
â PĂ„ grunn av ditt golfspill, er Finland pĂ„ et bedre sted enn andre europeiske land?
â Vi har et omfattende forsvarssamarbeid med USA, basert pĂ„ gjensidig interesse. Andre saker vurderer vi ulikt: Vi tror pĂ„ EU, pĂ„ en liberal verdensorden, og pĂ„ klimatrusselen. Jeg sier fra om at vi er uenig om straffetoll. Samtidig er det i USAs interesse Ă„ trene soldater i Arktis, Ă„ samarbeide om teknologi fordi store deler av deres mobile nettverk er levert av Nokia, og Ă„ samarbeide om sjeldne mineraler.
â Er det rom for kritikk?
â Jeg er helt Ă„pen om at vi har et annet syn enn Trump i mange saker, som EU og klima. Derfor fungerer det. Jeg sender de samme analysene til Trump: Vi er hjertelig uenig med deg om straffetoll, for eksempel. USAs sikkerhetspolitikk er ogsĂ„ endret. Det er ikke lenger en-til-en med oss i Europa.
Trump-hviskeren
I et VG-intervju i 2024 fortalte Stubbs forgjenger Sauli Niinistö om sine samtaler med Vladimir Putin, og hvordan han ble lÞyet for i tiden fÞr Putin beordret invasjonen i Ukraina.
Niinistö ble kalt Putin-hviskeren. Stubb omtales nÄ som Trump-hviskeren.
â Hva slags kontakt har du med Putin?
â Vi har ikke snakket sammen siden jeg ble president for to Ă„r siden. Finske myndigheter har kontakt pĂ„ lavere nivĂ„er med Russland om grensespĂžrsmĂ„l og annet praktisk.
â Vil du kunne ha tillit til Putin etter Ukraina-krigen?
â VĂ„r 1340 kilometer grense mot Russland, den gĂ„r ikke over. Ă bygge tillit med Russland igjen kan ta flere tiĂ„r. Da er muligens dagens russiske ledere erstattet, og vi kan ikke vite hvordan de vil forholde seg til Finland.
â Mange spĂ„r en massiv russisk opprustning mot Nato nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen tar slutt?
â I vĂ„r analyse er det selvsagt at vi vil ha flere russiske soldater nĂŠrt vĂ„re grenser nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen er over. Det er ikke noe nytt. Men Russland vet hvor sterkt vĂ„rt forsvar er. Russland vet at Finland er Nato-medlem, svarer han.
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"content" : "Iskald vind sniker seg rundt gatehjĂžrnene i Helsingfors. Fjorden er like frosset som Finlands forhold til Russland.\n\nIsbrytere jobber dag og natt for Ă„ holde rĂ„ker Ă„pne for skipstrafikken som forbinder hovedstaden med omverdenen.\n\nInnerst i havnen ligger presidentpalasset. Der inne sitter [Alexander Stubb](/tag/alexander-stubb?utm_source=vg-article&utm_medium=auto-tagger&utm_campaign=0pGalM) \\(57\\) og forteller VG om hvordan isen kan brytes, og en ny verdensorden kan utformes.\n\nOg hvorfor han mener at Russland er i ferd med Ă„ tape krigen i Ukraina.\n\n## Mistet Karelen\n\nStubbs farmor og farfar var fĂždt i Karelen, som ble sovjetisk territorium i 1944 etter utmattende krigsĂ„r. Finland mĂ„tte ogsĂ„ betale enorme belĂžp i krigserstatning til Moskva, og ble tvunget til et rettsoppgjĂžr.\n\nFinlands tidligere president Risto Ryti ble dĂžmt til 10 Ă„rs fengsel.\n\n**â Vi fikk beholde vĂ„r selvstendighet, men vi tapte vĂ„r suverenitet, sier Stubb.**\n\nâ Sovjetunionen dikterte vilkĂ„rene: I starten fikk vi ikke vĂŠre med i Nordisk rĂ„d, i FN eller i EFTA.\n\n## Fire Ă„r med krig\n\nTirsdag 24. februar er det fire Ă„r siden russiske stridsvogner rullet mot Kyiv. Etter krigens fĂžrste fase har Russland i liten grad lyktes med Ă„ erobre mer av Ukrainas landareal. De siste mĂ„nedene har Putin gjort alt han kan for Ă„ fryse ut befolkningen.\n\n*â Kan det vĂŠre en lĂžsning for Ukraina, Ă„ gi bort areal i bytte med fred slik Finland mĂ„tte i 1944?*\n\nâ Ut fra vĂ„r historie, forstĂ„r finnene det som holder pĂ„ Ă„ skje i Ukraina. Men Ukraina er i en langt bedre situasjon enn Finland var i, forklarer han.\n\n**â Ukraina har ikke tapt denne krigen, slĂ„r Stubb fast.**\n\nâ Det er Russland som har tapt, bĂ„de militĂŠrt, strategisk og Ăžkonomisk. Selv om Russland kontrollerer 20 prosent av Ukrainas areal, har de bare klart Ă„ ta ytterligere en prosent de to siste Ă„rene. 65.000 russiske soldater dĂžde bare i desember og januar. Da forstĂ„r du at Russland ikke kan vinne denne krigen. Ukraina vil ogsĂ„ fĂ„ sikkerhetsgarantier fra USA og Europa. Det hadde ikke Finland i 1944. Vi sto helt alene, sier den finske presidenten.\n\n## FN\\-reformer\n\n**Vi snakket ogsĂ„ med den finske presidenten om golf\\-runden som ga en unik tilgang til USAs president.**\n\n**Han skal i tillegg fortelle mer om det nĂŠre vennskapet med Jonas Gahr StĂžre.**\n\nMen fĂžrst: Alexander Stubb mener at FN mĂ„ reformeres. Ett av forslagene er at stormaktene mĂ„ oppgi sin vetorett i FNs sikkerhetsrĂ„d, og landene i sĂžr mĂ„ fĂ„ mer Ă„ si.\n\nâ Jeg kaller det for verdibasert realisme, sier Stubb.\n\nDet har han skrevet en bok om. «En ny verdensorden» er nĂ„ ute pĂ„ norsk.\n\n## Optimist av natur\n\nâ VĂ„re nordiske verdier som frihet, sikkerhet, menneskerettigheter og demokrati mĂ„ ligge fast. Men for Ă„ lĂžse verdens stĂžrste problemer som handler om klima, konflikter, energi og teknologi, da mĂ„ du samarbeide med land som ikke har de samme verdiene, fortsetter han.\n\n*â Tror du virkelig at de fem faste medlemmene av SikkerhetsrĂ„det vil gi opp sin vetorett?*\n\nâ Det vet jeg ikke. Men om man er optimist av natur, sĂ„ mĂ„ man i det minste forsĂžke Ă„ tenke nytt, sier Stubb.\n\n## Maktens triangel\n\nI boken beskriver Stubb «maktens triangel»: Tre ideologier som han kaller det globale vest, det globale sĂžr og det globale Ăžst. Samspillet mellom dem vil pĂ„virke den nye verdensordenen.\n\nâ Vi ser at verden er i endring, men vi vet ennĂ„ ikke hvor den er pĂ„ vei. I boken argumenterer jeg for at det vil gĂ„ noen Ă„r, kanskje til 2030, fĂžr en ny verdensorden kommer pĂ„ plass. Akkurat nĂ„ er vi i en periode hvor mektige aktĂžrer prĂžver Ă„ posisjonere seg der det finnes maktvakuum. Kina gjĂžr det, og Trumps nye fredsforum har ambisjoner om Ă„ gjĂžre det, sier han.\n\nKampen stĂ„r nĂ„ mellom to motstridende ideologier, ifĂžlge Stubb: «Jalta» eller «Helsingfors».\n\n## Fra krise til lĂžsning\n\nStubb argumenterer for at krisene i verden har tĂžmret de europeiske landene mye tettere sammen. Han beskriver EU\\-samarbeidet i tre typiske faser:\n\nâ FĂžrst er det krise, sĂ„ kaos â men sĂ„ finner vi en lĂžsning alle kan leve med, forklarer han.\n\nHan ramser opp:\n\n[Brexit ](/nyheter/i/aAMbd/slik-splitter-brexit-storbritannia)dro de europeiske landene tettere sammen. SĂ„ kom covid, krigen i Ukraina, og energikrisen som landene samarbeidet om Ă„ lĂžse. Legg til sikkerhetstrusselen fra Russland, og «et visst trykk fra USA», som Stubb beskriver.\n\n## Den han snakker mest med\n\n**Stubbs nĂŠrmeste samtalepartner i Europa er imidlertid ikke medlem i EU:**\n\nâ Skal jeg trekke fram den europeiske lederen som jeg har mest kommunikasjon med, sĂ„ er det Jonas Gahr StĂžre, sier han.\n\nStĂžre har ogsĂ„ bekreftet den tette kontakten med president Stubb. De snakker sammen eller utveksler SMS\\-er omtrent hver eneste dag.\n\n*â Hvordan kan Norge vĂŠre pĂ„ innsiden av de store beslutningene i Europa uten Ă„ vĂŠre medlem i EU?*\n\nâ EU\\-medlemskapet er en beslutning Norge selv mĂ„ ta, selv om jeg personlig skulle Ăžnske at Storbritannia, Island og Norge var med. Men som Nato\\-medlem er Norge en stor aktĂžr i saker om sikkerhet, og spesielt om Arktis.\n\n*â Hva har Norge Ă„ legge pĂ„ bordet, i tillegg til olje og gass, for Ă„ bli hĂžrt?*\n\nâ Mye handler om personlighet. Jonas er svĂŠrt aktiv i utenriks\\- og sikkerhetspolitikken. Den interessen har vi begge som tidligere utenriksministre. Norge bidrar med Ăžkt sikkerhet for oss som nytt medlem i Nato. NĂ„ samarbeider Finland, Sverige og Norge mye tettere om forsvar.\n\n## SMS til Trump\n\nSĂžndag 18. januar sendte StĂžre og Stubb en felles tekstmelding til Donald Trump. De ramset opp uenighet om GrĂžnland, Gaza, Ukraina og straffetoll, og ba om et snarlig mĂžte.\n\n[27 minutter senere fikk StĂžre svar](/nyheter/i/q6AdB0/trump-i-melding-til-stoere-foeler-ikke-lenger-noen-forpliktelse) fra Trump, som den amerikanske presidenten publiserte i sosiale medier: Ettersom Norge ikke ga Trump Nobels fredspris, var Trump ikke lengre forpliktet til Ă„ tenke fred alltid. Trump gjentok ogsĂ„ kravet om Ă„ overgi GrĂžnland til USA.\n\nâ Jeg fikk den nĂžyaktig samme meldingen. Det sto «Dear Jonas» pĂ„ min ogsĂ„, bekrefter Stubb.\n\nâ Vi melder ofte med Trump, og vi gjĂžr det sammen. Vi sender felles meldinger til andre europeiske ledere, til Ukrainas president Zelenskyj, forteller han.\n\nAlexander Stubb har ytterligere en relasjon til Donald Trump som StĂžre ikke har.\n\n## Golf\\-mĂžtet\n\nI sin ungdom var Stubb pĂ„ Finlands ungdomslandslag i golf. 29. mars i fjor gikk Stubb og Trump ut pĂ„ Trump International Golf Club i Florida.\n\nâ Jeg fikk syv timer pĂ„ tomannshĂ„nd med USAs president, mer enn alle mine forgjengere til sammen. Jeg skal ikke overvurdere min relasjon med presidenten, men jeg mener det var vel anvendt tid.\n\nDe var et team pĂ„ fem og spilte «best ball», hvor de to beste scorene pĂ„ hvert hull talte. De vekslet mellom Ă„ score par og birdies. I en turnering med rundt 30 team, vant laget med de to presidentene.\n\n*â Hva fikk du og Finland igjen for det?*\n\nâ I ettertid tekster vi, vi ringes og vi diskuterer. Jeg tror det har vĂŠrt nyttig ved at vi etterpĂ„ har solgt 11 isbrytere til USA. Det er lett Ă„ glemme at diplomati egentlig har to ben. Det ene er det mellomstatlige forholdet, interessebasert ut fra makt, kultur og historie. Det andre er personlig. Som Finlands president er det min jobb Ă„ ha et bra forhold til USAs president. Om jeg lanserer 10 ideer og han tar en av dem, da har jeg lyktes.\n\n## Sier fra\n\n*â PĂ„ grunn av ditt golfspill, er Finland pĂ„ et bedre sted enn andre europeiske land?*\n\nâ Vi har et omfattende forsvarssamarbeid med USA, basert pĂ„ gjensidig interesse. Andre saker vurderer vi ulikt: Vi tror pĂ„ EU, pĂ„ en liberal verdensorden, og pĂ„ klimatrusselen. Jeg sier fra om at vi er uenig om straffetoll. Samtidig er det i USAs interesse Ă„ trene soldater i Arktis, Ă„ samarbeide om teknologi fordi store deler av deres mobile nettverk er levert av Nokia, og Ă„ samarbeide om sjeldne mineraler.\n\n*â Er det rom for kritikk?*\n\nâ Jeg er helt Ă„pen om at vi har et annet syn enn Trump i mange saker, som EU og klima. Derfor fungerer det. Jeg sender de samme analysene til Trump: Vi er hjertelig uenig med deg om straffetoll, for eksempel. USAs sikkerhetspolitikk er ogsĂ„ endret. Det er ikke lenger en\\-til\\-en med oss i Europa.\n\n## Trump\\-hviskeren\n\nI et VG\\-intervju i 2024 fortalte Stubbs forgjenger Sauli Niinistö [om sine samtaler med Vladimir Putin](/nyheter/i/O84KqO/finlands-president-om-putin-samtalene-vi-burde-ha-forstaatt), og hvordan han ble lĂžyet for i tiden fĂžr Putin beordret invasjonen i Ukraina.\n\n**Niinistö ble kalt Putin\\-hviskeren. Stubb omtales nĂ„ som Trump\\-hviskeren.**\n\n*â Hva slags kontakt har du med Putin?*\n\nâ Vi har ikke snakket sammen siden jeg ble president for to Ă„r siden. Finske myndigheter har kontakt pĂ„ lavere nivĂ„er med Russland om grensespĂžrsmĂ„l og annet praktisk.\n\n*â Vil du kunne ha tillit til Putin etter Ukraina\\-krigen?*\n\nâ VĂ„r 1340 kilometer grense mot Russland, den gĂ„r ikke over. Ă
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Fjorden er like frosset som Finlands forhold til Russland. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"> Isbrytere jobber dag og natt for Ă„ holde rĂ„ker Ă„pne for skipstrafikken som forbinder hovedstaden med omverdenen. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Innerst i havnen ligger presidentpalasset. 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strekker seg fra de mest Ăžstlige og sĂžrĂžstlige delene av Finland mot Russland.</span></abbr>, som ble sovjetisk territorium i 1944 etter utmattende krigsĂ„r. Finland mĂ„tte ogsĂ„ betale enorme belĂžp i krigserstatning til Moskva, og ble tvunget til et rettsoppgjĂžr. </p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_2"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Finlands tidligere president Risto Ryti ble dĂžmt til 10 Ă„rs fengsel. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Vi fikk beholde vĂ„r selvstendighet, men vi tapte vĂ„r suverenitet, sier Stubb.</strong></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Sovjetunionen dikterte vilkĂ„rene: I starten fikk vi ikke vĂŠre med i Nordisk rĂ„d, i FN eller i EFTA.</p><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Fire Ă„r med krig </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Tirsdag 24. februar er det fire Ă„r siden russiske stridsvogner rullet mot Kyiv. Etter krigens fĂžrste fase har Russland i liten grad lyktes med Ă„ erobre mer av Ukrainas landareal. De siste mĂ„nedene har Putin gjort alt han kan for Ă„ fryse ut befolkningen. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"> <em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Kan det vĂŠre en lĂžsning for Ukraina, Ă„ gi bort areal i bytte med fred slik Finland mĂ„tte i 1944?</strong></em></p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_3"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Ut fra vĂ„r historie, forstĂ„r finnene det som holder pĂ„ Ă„ skje i Ukraina. Men Ukraina er i en langt bedre situasjon enn Finland var i, forklarer han.</p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Ukraina har ikke tapt denne krigen, slĂ„r Stubb fast.</strong></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Det er Russland som har tapt, bĂ„de militĂŠrt, strategisk og Ăžkonomisk. Selv om Russland kontrollerer 20 prosent av Ukrainas areal, har de bare klart Ă„ ta ytterligere en prosent de to siste Ă„rene. 65.000 russiske soldater dĂžde bare i desember og januar. Da forstĂ„r du at Russland ikke kan vinne denne krigen. Ukraina vil ogsĂ„ fĂ„ sikkerhetsgarantier fra USA og Europa. Det hadde ikke Finland i 1944. Vi sto helt alene, sier den finske presidenten.</p><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">FN-reformer </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">Vi snakket ogsĂ„ med den finske presidenten om <a class="_link_o9xde_39" data-track-element-type="Link" data-track-id="link:dR89Oz" href="/nyheter/i/dR89Oz/president-stubb-vi-beveger-oss-mer-mot-mistillitssiden">golf-runden som ga en unik tilgang til USAs president. </a></strong></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">Han skal i tillegg fortelle mer om <a class="_link_o9xde_39" data-track-element-type="Link" data-track-id="link:kw63BX" href="/nyheter/i/kw63BX/stoere-paa-teambuilding-i-bodoe-med-kristersson-og-stubb">det nĂŠre vennskapet med Jonas Gahr StĂžre. </a></strong></p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_4"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Men fĂžrst: Alexander Stubb mener at FN mĂ„ reformeres. Ett av forslagene er at stormaktene mĂ„ oppgi sin vetorett i FNs sikkerhetsrĂ„d, og landene i sĂžr mĂ„ fĂ„ mer Ă„ si. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Jeg kaller det for verdibasert realisme, sier Stubb.</p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Det har han skrevet en bok om. «En ny verdensorden» er nĂ„ ute pĂ„ norsk.</p><astro-island await-children client="visible" component-export="Image" component-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js" opts="{"name":"Image","value":true}" prefix="r153" 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=1440&s=7594b1aafebeaf920514d1a5955993ca39c898ac 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=2160&s=699062d03b7bd26222c318bd1fac14902acc60c8 2160w" style="object-position:0% 0%" width="7303"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Optimist av natur </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â VĂ„re nordiske verdier som frihet, sikkerhet, menneskerettigheter og demokrati mĂ„ ligge fast. Men for Ă„ lĂžse verdens stĂžrste problemer som handler om klima, konflikter, energi og teknologi, da mĂ„ du samarbeide med land som ikke har de samme verdiene, fortsetter han.</p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_5"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Tror du virkelig at de fem faste medlemmene av SikkerhetsrĂ„det vil gi opp sin vetorett? </strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Det vet jeg ikke. Men om man er optimist av natur, sĂ„ mĂ„ man i det minste forsĂžke Ă„ tenke nytt, sier Stubb.</p><astro-island await-children client="visible" component-export="FactBox" component-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/FactBox.3qMhHu30.js" opts="{"name":"FactBox","value":true}" prefix="r159" props="{"component":[0,{"title":[0,{"value":[0,"Dette er Alexander Stubb"]}],"paragraphs":[1,[[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Cai-Göran Alexander Stubb (fĂždt 1. april 1968) har vĂŠrt Finlands president siden 1. mars 2024. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Han vokste opp i Helsingfors i et tosprĂ„klig hjem: moren var finsksprĂ„klig mens faren snakket svensk og var toppsjef i Finlands ishockeyforbund og talentspeider for den amerikanske ishockeyligaen NHL. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Alexander Stubb har studert ved universiteter i USA, Frankrike, Belgia og Storbritannia, og har en doktorgrad i statsvitenskap fra London School of Economics. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Etter en periode som folkevalgt i EU-parlamentet for Samlingspartiet, som er HĂžyres finske sĂžsterparti, ble Stubb utnevnt til utenriksminister i Finland i 2008. Han fortsatte i ulike finske koalisjonsregjeringer som europaminister, statsminister og finansminister fram til 2016. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"I 2017 forlot han Finland for Ă„ bli visepresident i den europeiske investeringsbanken. Fra 2020 og fram til han startet president-kampanjen hĂžsten 2023, var han professor i statsvitenskap ved Europa-universitetet i Firenze. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Stubb vant europamesterskapet i triatlon i sin aldersklasse i 2022. I fjor sommer tok han annenplassen i et triatlon-stevne i Finland, som besto av 750 meter svĂžmming, 20 kilometer sykling og 5 kilometer lĂžping."],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}]]],"type":[0,"fact"]}],"type":[0,"feature"]}" renderer-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js" ssr uid="Zsweyi"><div class="_factbox_16v91_30 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded"><section aria-expanded="false" aria-label="Utvid" class="_box_1mfx9_1 font-vg-sans layout-component layout-normal _box_16v91_39" id="«r159R0»" role="region" style="max-height:var(--height)"><h2 class="_title_16v91_25 title-serif-s">Dette er Alexander Stubb</h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded">Cai-Göran Alexander Stubb (fĂždt 1. april 1968) har vĂŠrt Finlands president siden 1. mars 2024. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded">Han vokste opp i Helsingfors i et tosprĂ„klig hjem: moren var finsksprĂ„klig mens faren snakket svensk og var toppsjef i Finlands ishockeyforbund og talentspeider for den amerikanske ishockeyligaen NHL. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded">Alexander Stubb har studert ved universiteter i USA, Frankrike, Belgia og Storbritannia, og har en doktorgrad i statsvitenskap fra London School of Economics. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded">Etter en periode som folkevalgt i EU-parlamentet for Samlingspartiet, som er HĂžyres finske sĂžsterparti, ble Stubb utnevnt til utenriksminister i Finland i 2008. Han fortsatte i ulike finske koalisjonsregjeringer som europaminister, statsminister og finansminister fram til 2016. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded">I 2017 forlot han Finland for Ă„ bli visepresident i den europeiske investeringsbanken. Fra 2020 og fram til han startet president-kampanjen hĂžsten 2023, var han professor i statsvitenskap ved Europa-universitetet i Firenze. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded">Stubb vant europamesterskapet i triatlon i sin aldersklasse i 2022. I fjor sommer tok han annenplassen i et triatlon-stevne i Finland, som besto av 750 meter svĂžmming, 20 kilometer sykling og 5 kilometer lĂžping.</p><button aria-controls="«r159R0»" class="_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large _hug_6bkpv_81 _filled_6bkpv_106 _button_1mfx9_76" data-track-element-type="Factbox" data-track-id="factbox:dette-er-alexander-stubb" data-track-impression="true" data-track-name="Dette er Alexander Stubb" role="button" type="button"><span>Vis <!-- -->mer</span></button></section></div><!--astro:end--></astro-island><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Maktens triangel </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">I boken beskriver Stubb «maktens triangel»: Tre ideologier som han kaller det globale vest, det globale sĂžr og det globale Ăžst. Samspillet mellom dem vil pĂ„virke den nye verdensordenen.</p><article class="layout-component layout-normal layout-padded _small_1woao_91 mb-cpg"><a class="_link_1woao_14" data-track-id="teaser:6q6kvr" data-track-impression="true" data-track-name="Bokanmeldelse: Men hva med Trump?" href="https://www.vg.no/rampelys/i/6q6kvr/men-hva-med-trump"><h3 class="title-serif-xs _title_1woao_44">Bokanmeldelse: Men hva med Trump?</h3><figure class="_figure_1woao_1"><img alt="" class="_image_1woao_6" height="2422" loading="lazy" sizes="200px" src="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=40&s=7759e1e71f4600f4511fd9c1043a2ac9dc27120f" srcset="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=40&s=7759e1e71f4600f4511fd9c1043a2ac9dc27120f 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=80&s=8a76c711afffcf46fbbea79384a78e771e2c3d66 80w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=100&s=babbe8b7faf71cf51190fcc2eab830df75ba4907 100w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=200&s=ba7d8689c97895fca90333d8e9b913b0174d6e1b 200w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=240&s=09ca7fbefb17fb77198e86602f017bb6f3fff8e9 240w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=480&s=5291c9c557c7a153ddccec7d7ff0b8cc262537c1 480w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=580&s=96d15162aae278e9eafe13b0245326c66570d1dd 580w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=720&s=4a8f0d2bf5e95f244f4a7708879071042677fba4 720w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=1080&s=fe59e64c6bb4a51d44cad9c7aebfdba9e31abfda 1080w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=1440&s=469bb1ed0f64bb1e3ee0147caf5a39d47ebe10fa 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=2160&s=461d6327c90978d40ed54d388e8fbab27e78757a 2160w" width="2653"></figure></a></article><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Vi ser at verden er i endring, men vi vet ennĂ„ ikke hvor den er pĂ„ vei. I boken argumenterer jeg for at det vil gĂ„ noen Ă„r, kanskje til 2030, fĂžr en ny verdensorden kommer pĂ„ plass. Akkurat nĂ„ er vi i en periode hvor mektige aktĂžrer prĂžver Ă„ posisjonere seg der det finnes maktvakuum. 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4a0ce8fa-f9ff-43a6-9ddf-d35c0aa77cd8?format=auto&w=1440&s=82d4ce776550ac3229f83cac334c618273c4ddcd 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4a0ce8fa-f9ff-43a6-9ddf-d35c0aa77cd8?format=auto&w=2160&s=9e5777420a3e29bc888c05b0bdb4ba037ae1fddd 2160w" style="object-position:0% 0%" width="8256"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Kampen stĂ„r nĂ„ mellom to motstridende ideologier, ifĂžlge Stubb: <abbr class="_explanation_o9xde_140" tabindex="0" title="I Jalta i 1945 la andre verdenskrigs seierherrer â USA, Storbritannia og Sovjetunionen â grunnlaget for en verdensorden basert pĂ„ stormaktenes interesser. ">«Jalta»<span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151" role="presentation"><span class="text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156">«Jalta»</span>I Jalta i 1945 la andre verdenskrigs seierherrer â USA, Storbritannia og Sovjetunionen â grunnlaget for en verdensorden basert pĂ„ stormaktenes interesser. </span></abbr> eller <abbr class="_explanation_o9xde_140" tabindex="0" title="I 1975 kom 35 stater sammen i Helsingfors og etablerte en europeisk sikkerhetsstruktur basert pĂ„ regler, normer, og respekt for gjeldende landegrenser. ">«Helsingfors».<span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151" role="presentation"><span class="text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156">«Helsingfors».</span>I 1975 kom 35 stater sammen i Helsingfors og etablerte en europeisk sikkerhetsstruktur basert pĂ„ regler, normer, og respekt for gjeldende landegrenser. </span></abbr></p><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Fra krise til lĂžsning </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Stubb argumenterer for at krisene i verden har tĂžmret de europeiske landene mye tettere sammen. Han beskriver EU-samarbeidet i tre typiske faser:</p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_6"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â FĂžrst er det krise, sĂ„ kaos â men sĂ„ finner vi en lĂžsning alle kan leve med, forklarer han.</p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Han ramser opp: </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><a class="_link_o9xde_39" data-track-element-type="Link" data-track-id="link:aAMbd" href="/nyheter/i/aAMbd/slik-splitter-brexit-storbritannia">Brexit </a>dro de europeiske landene tettere sammen. SĂ„ kom covid, krigen i Ukraina, og energikrisen som landene samarbeidet om Ă„ lĂžse. 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class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">StĂžre har ogsĂ„ bekreftet den tette kontakten med president Stubb. De snakker sammen eller utveksler SMS-er omtrent hver eneste dag.</p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_7"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Hvordan kan Norge vĂŠre pĂ„ innsiden av de store beslutningene i Europa uten Ă„ vĂŠre medlem i EU?</strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â EU-medlemskapet er en beslutning Norge selv mĂ„ ta, selv om jeg personlig skulle Ăžnske at Storbritannia, Island og Norge var med. 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/f81db773-de67-415f-955b-5a177d6aa603?format=auto&w=1440&s=f72fd183b2251bc27ffefddd5d0712e549bd7c39 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/f81db773-de67-415f-955b-5a177d6aa603?format=auto&w=2160&s=92a0ea89e38976c768d12e1dd5461a68d21b5d1f 2160w" style="object-position:0% 0%" width="8212"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Hva har Norge Ă„ legge pĂ„ bordet, i tillegg til olje og gass, for Ă„ bli hĂžrt? </strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Mye handler om personlighet. Jonas er svĂŠrt aktiv i utenriks- og sikkerhetspolitikken. Den interessen har vi begge som tidligere utenriksministre. Norge bidrar med Ăžkt sikkerhet for oss som nytt medlem i Nato. NĂ„ samarbeider Finland, Sverige og Norge mye tettere om forsvar.</p><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">SMS til Trump </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">SĂžndag 18. januar sendte StĂžre og Stubb en felles tekstmelding til Donald Trump. De ramset opp uenighet om GrĂžnland, Gaza, Ukraina og straffetoll, og ba om et snarlig mĂžte.</p><astro-island await-children client="visible" component-export="Image" component-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js" opts="{"name":"Image","value":true}" prefix="r188" props="{"alt":[0],"caption":[0,"Foto: Hallgeir VĂ„genes / 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/96ce3533-6b7e-4dfe-904a-2b125daae56a?format=auto&w=1440&s=23ba348da58ebe99c99f035594b96743a9705d1e 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/96ce3533-6b7e-4dfe-904a-2b125daae56a?format=auto&w=2160&s=610205b1f750a102a1815aecd24ce4653b7eda5e 2160w" style="object-position:0% 0%" width="3647"><figcaption class="text-sans-s _caption_qp4xg_10 layout-component">Foto: Hallgeir VĂ„genes / VG</figcaption></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><a class="_link_o9xde_39" data-track-element-type="Link" data-track-id="link:q6AdB0" href="/nyheter/i/q6AdB0/trump-i-melding-til-stoere-foeler-ikke-lenger-noen-forpliktelse">27 minutter senere fikk StĂžre svar</a> fra Trump, som den amerikanske presidenten publiserte i sosiale medier: Ettersom Norge ikke ga Trump Nobels fredspris, var Trump ikke lengre forpliktet til Ă„ tenke fred alltid. Trump gjentok ogsĂ„ kravet om Ă„ overgi GrĂžnland til USA. </p><astro-island await-children client="visible" component-export="FactBox" component-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/FactBox.3qMhHu30.js" opts="{"name":"FactBox","value":true}" prefix="r190" props="{"component":[0,{"title":[0,{"value":[0,"Slik var SMS-utvekslingen "]}],"paragraphs":[1,[[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Tekstmelding fra statsminister StĂžre til president Trump 18. januar kl. 15:48: «Dear Mr president, dear Donald â on the contact across the Atlantic â on Greenland, Gaza, Ukraine â and your tariff announcement yesterday. You know our position on these issues. But we believe we all should work to take this down and de-escalate â so much is happening around us where we need to stand together. We are proposing a call with you later today â with both of us or separately â give us a hint of what you prefer! Best â Alex and Jonas»"],"markup":[1,[[0,{"type":[0,"style:em"],"offset":[0,80],"length":[0,448]}]]]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Tekstmelding fra president Trump til statsminister StĂžre 18. januar kl. 16:15: «Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a âright of ownershipâ anyway? There are no written documents, itâs only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! 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You know our position on these issues. But we believe we all should work to take this down and de-escalate â so much is happening around us where we need to stand together. We are proposing a call with you later today â with both of us or separately â give us a hint of what you prefer! Best â Alex and Jonas</em>»</p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded">Tekstmelding fra president Trump til statsminister StĂžre 18. januar kl. 16:15: «<em class="_em_o9xde_35">Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a âright of ownershipâ anyway? There are no written documents, itâs only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT</em>»</p><button aria-controls="«r190R0»" class="_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large _hug_6bkpv_81 _filled_6bkpv_106 _button_1mfx9_76" data-track-element-type="Factbox" data-track-id="factbox:slik-var-sms-utvekslingen" data-track-impression="true" data-track-name="Slik var SMS-utvekslingen " role="button" type="button"><span>Vis <!-- -->mer</span></button></section></div><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Jeg fikk den nĂžyaktig samme meldingen. Det sto «Dear Jonas» pĂ„ min ogsĂ„, bekrefter Stubb.</p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_8"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Vi melder ofte med Trump, og vi gjĂžr det sammen. Vi sender felles meldinger til andre europeiske ledere, til Ukrainas president Zelenskyj, forteller han.</p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Alexander Stubb har ytterligere en relasjon til Donald Trump som StĂžre ikke har. </p><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Golf-mĂžtet </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">I sin ungdom var Stubb pĂ„ Finlands ungdomslandslag i golf. 29. mars i fjor gikk Stubb og Trump ut pĂ„ Trump International Golf Club i Florida. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Jeg fikk syv timer pĂ„ tomannshĂ„nd med USAs president, mer enn alle mine forgjengere til sammen. Jeg skal ikke overvurdere min relasjon med presidenten, men jeg mener det var vel anvendt tid.</p><astro-island await-children client="visible" component-export="Image" component-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js" opts="{"name":"Image","value":true}" prefix="r198" props="{"alt":[0],"caption":[0,"Foto: Finnish Presidential Office via Instagram"],"device":[0],"editorialJudgment":[0],"imageAsset":[0,{"id":[0,"2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a"],"size":[0,{"width":[0,877],"height":[0,1170]}],"hotspot":[0,{"x":[0,213],"y":[0,76],"width":[0,427],"height":[0,320]}],"urls":[1,[[0,{"height":[0,53],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=40&s=38171b5210c29edf92548e140caf128dc87144d6"],"width":[0,40]}],[0,{"height":[0,107],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=80&s=c4d32ae9b0cbe6ee821b900f7cd9735e46ada8e1"],"width":[0,80]}],[0,{"height":[0,133],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=100&s=1fac5f0ff24d1c2dfdefcf6ae98fac0d7313e53a"],"width":[0,100]}],[0,{"height":[0,267],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=200&s=14c1dc3d3e3f16eeab079d32729d1cf28b1ef859"],"width":[0,200]}],[0,{"height":[0,320],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=240&s=2ed439ca0bf2359308bc0e7dd68a0742cbfc9aa3"],"width":[0,240]}],[0,{"height":[0,640],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=480&s=8cbf5bbf1d9021058197c164238b4a33243be41d"],"width":[0,480]}],[0,{"height":[0,774],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=580&s=c9d9b0861297248f3a59c2bc188999494fc6fa40"],"width":[0,580]}],[0,{"height":[0,961],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=720&s=d35bf401e5e2642c590297506b41f922e8a91b40"],"width":[0,720]}]]]}],"layout":[0],"marginBottom":[0],"padded":[0],"type":[0,"feature"]}" renderer-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js" ssr uid="ZhiJY5"><figure class="_figure_qp4xg_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded"><img alt="Foto: Finnish Presidential Office via Instagram" class="_image_qp4xg_65 layout-component layout-normal" data-fullscreen-sizes="(min-width: 1000px) 2000px, 2000vw" data-track-element-type="Article image fullscreen" data-track-name="ImageFullscreen" decoding="async" height="1170" itemprop="image" loading="lazy" sizes="(min-width: 980px) 980px, 100vw" src="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=40&s=38171b5210c29edf92548e140caf128dc87144d6" srcset="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=40&s=38171b5210c29edf92548e140caf128dc87144d6 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=80&s=c4d32ae9b0cbe6ee821b900f7cd9735e46ada8e1 80w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=100&s=1fac5f0ff24d1c2dfdefcf6ae98fac0d7313e53a 100w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=200&s=14c1dc3d3e3f16eeab079d32729d1cf28b1ef859 200w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=240&s=2ed439ca0bf2359308bc0e7dd68a0742cbfc9aa3 240w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=480&s=8cbf5bbf1d9021058197c164238b4a33243be41d 480w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=580&s=c9d9b0861297248f3a59c2bc188999494fc6fa40 580w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=720&s=d35bf401e5e2642c590297506b41f922e8a91b40 720w" style="object-position:48.63169897377423% 20.17094017094017%" width="877"><figcaption class="text-sans-s _caption_qp4xg_10 layout-component">Foto: Finnish Presidential Office via Instagram</figcaption></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">De var et <abbr class="_explanation_o9xde_140" tabindex="0" title="Stubb's medspillere er, ifĂžlge boken, senator Lindsey Graham, golflegenden Gary Player, Fox-anker Trey Gowdy og president Donald Trump.">team pĂ„ fem<span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151" role="presentation"><span class="text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156">team pĂ„ fem</span>Stubb's medspillere er, ifĂžlge boken, senator Lindsey Graham, golflegenden Gary Player, Fox-anker Trey Gowdy og president Donald Trump.</span></abbr> og spilte «best ball», hvor de to beste scorene pĂ„ hvert hull talte. De vekslet mellom Ă„ score par og birdies. I en turnering med rundt 30 team, vant laget med de to presidentene. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Hva fikk du og Finland igjen for det?</strong></em></p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_9"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â I ettertid tekster vi, vi ringes og vi diskuterer. Jeg tror det har vĂŠrt nyttig ved at vi etterpĂ„ har solgt 11 isbrytere til USA. Det er lett Ă„ glemme at diplomati egentlig har to ben. Det ene er det mellomstatlige forholdet, interessebasert ut fra makt, kultur og historie. Det andre er personlig. Som Finlands president er det min jobb Ă„ ha et bra forhold til USAs president. Om jeg lanserer 10 ideer og han tar en av dem, da har jeg lyktes.</p><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Sier fra </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â PĂ„ grunn av ditt golfspill, er Finland pĂ„ et bedre sted enn andre europeiske land?</strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Vi har et omfattende forsvarssamarbeid med USA, basert pĂ„ gjensidig interesse. Andre saker vurderer vi ulikt: Vi tror pĂ„ EU, pĂ„ en liberal verdensorden, og pĂ„ klimatrusselen. Jeg sier fra om at vi er uenig om straffetoll. Samtidig er det i USAs interesse Ă„ trene soldater i Arktis, Ă„ samarbeide om teknologi fordi store deler av deres mobile nettverk er levert av Nokia, og Ă„ samarbeide om sjeldne mineraler. </p><astro-island await-children client="visible" component-export="Image" component-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js" opts="{"name":"Image","value":true}" prefix="r206" 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renderer-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js" ssr uid="ZMhTBJ"><figure class="_figure_qp4xg_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded"><img alt="" class="_image_qp4xg_65 layout-component layout-normal" data-fullscreen-sizes="(min-width: 1000px) 2000px, 2000vw" data-track-element-type="Article image fullscreen" data-track-name="ImageFullscreen" decoding="async" height="5482" itemprop="image" loading="lazy" sizes="(min-width: 980px) 980px, 100vw" src="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=40&s=e0f6ceffc50c002f84229490ebeb7cb9b8d5ab47" srcset="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=40&s=e0f6ceffc50c002f84229490ebeb7cb9b8d5ab47 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=80&s=08d0331f1f3fbf77935b7ef83869c5f49e089624 80w, 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=1440&s=0607397fe1c9c98ff643de77a48be60ea1fdbee0 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=2160&s=88f022225cb160864e26509aa7d206a803977497 2160w" style="object-position:0% 0%" width="7309"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Er det rom for kritikk?</strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Jeg er helt Ă„pen om at vi har et annet syn enn Trump i mange saker, som EU og klima. Derfor fungerer det. Jeg sender de samme analysene til Trump: Vi er hjertelig uenig med deg om straffetoll, for eksempel. USAs sikkerhetspolitikk er ogsĂ„ endret. 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class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_10"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">Niinistö ble kalt Putin-hviskeren. Stubb omtales nĂ„ som Trump-hviskeren.</strong></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Hva slags kontakt har du med Putin?</strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Vi har ikke snakket sammen siden jeg ble president for to Ă„r siden. Finske myndigheter har kontakt pĂ„ lavere nivĂ„er med Russland om grensespĂžrsmĂ„l og annet praktisk. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Vil du kunne ha tillit til Putin etter Ukraina-krigen?</strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â VĂ„r 1340 kilometer grense mot Russland, den gĂ„r ikke over. Ă
bygge tillit med Russland igjen kan ta flere tiĂ„r. Da er muligens dagens russiske ledere erstattet, og vi kan ikke vite hvordan de vil forholde seg til Finland.</p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Mange spĂ„r en massiv russisk opprustning mot Nato nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen tar slutt?</strong></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â I vĂ„r analyse er det selvsagt at vi vil ha flere russiske soldater nĂŠrt vĂ„re grenser nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen er over. Det er ikke noe nytt. Men Russland vet hvor sterkt vĂ„rt forsvar er. 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"content" : "Iskald vind sniker seg rundt gatehjĂžrnene i Helsingfors. Fjorden er like frosset som Finlands forhold til Russland.\n\nIsbrytere jobber dag og natt for Ă„ holde rĂ„ker Ă„pne for skipstrafikken som forbinder hovedstaden med omverdenen.\n\nInnerst i havnen ligger presidentpalasset. Der inne sitter [Alexander Stubb](/tag/alexander-stubb?utm_source=vg-article&utm_medium=auto-tagger&utm_campaign=0pGalM) \\(57\\) og forteller VG om hvordan isen kan brytes, og en ny verdensorden kan utformes.\n\nOg hvorfor han mener at Russland er i ferd med Ă„ tape krigen i Ukraina.\n\n## Mistet Karelen\n\nStubbs farmor og farfar var fĂždt i Karelen, som ble sovjetisk territorium i 1944 etter utmattende krigsĂ„r. Finland mĂ„tte ogsĂ„ betale enorme belĂžp i krigserstatning til Moskva, og ble tvunget til et rettsoppgjĂžr.\n\nFinlands tidligere president Risto Ryti ble dĂžmt til 10 Ă„rs fengsel.\n\n**â Vi fikk beholde vĂ„r selvstendighet, men vi tapte vĂ„r suverenitet, sier Stubb.**\n\nâ Sovjetunionen dikterte vilkĂ„rene: I starten fikk vi ikke vĂŠre med i Nordisk rĂ„d, i FN eller i EFTA.\n\n## Fire Ă„r med krig\n\nTirsdag 24. februar er det fire Ă„r siden russiske stridsvogner rullet mot Kyiv. Etter krigens fĂžrste fase har Russland i liten grad lyktes med Ă„ erobre mer av Ukrainas landareal. De siste mĂ„nedene har Putin gjort alt han kan for Ă„ fryse ut befolkningen.\n\n*â Kan det vĂŠre en lĂžsning for Ukraina, Ă„ gi bort areal i bytte med fred slik Finland mĂ„tte i 1944?*\n\nâ Ut fra vĂ„r historie, forstĂ„r finnene det som holder pĂ„ Ă„ skje i Ukraina. Men Ukraina er i en langt bedre situasjon enn Finland var i, forklarer han.\n\n**â Ukraina har ikke tapt denne krigen, slĂ„r Stubb fast.**\n\nâ Det er Russland som har tapt, bĂ„de militĂŠrt, strategisk og Ăžkonomisk. Selv om Russland kontrollerer 20 prosent av Ukrainas areal, har de bare klart Ă„ ta ytterligere en prosent de to siste Ă„rene. 65.000 russiske soldater dĂžde bare i desember og januar. Da forstĂ„r du at Russland ikke kan vinne denne krigen. Ukraina vil ogsĂ„ fĂ„ sikkerhetsgarantier fra USA og Europa. Det hadde ikke Finland i 1944. Vi sto helt alene, sier den finske presidenten.\n\n## FN\\-reformer\n\n**Vi snakket ogsĂ„ med den finske presidenten om golf\\-runden som ga en unik tilgang til USAs president.**\n\n**Han skal i tillegg fortelle mer om det nĂŠre vennskapet med Jonas Gahr StĂžre.**\n\nMen fĂžrst: Alexander Stubb mener at FN mĂ„ reformeres. Ett av forslagene er at stormaktene mĂ„ oppgi sin vetorett i FNs sikkerhetsrĂ„d, og landene i sĂžr mĂ„ fĂ„ mer Ă„ si.\n\nâ Jeg kaller det for verdibasert realisme, sier Stubb.\n\nDet har han skrevet en bok om. «En ny verdensorden» er nĂ„ ute pĂ„ norsk.\n\n## Optimist av natur\n\nâ VĂ„re nordiske verdier som frihet, sikkerhet, menneskerettigheter og demokrati mĂ„ ligge fast. Men for Ă„ lĂžse verdens stĂžrste problemer som handler om klima, konflikter, energi og teknologi, da mĂ„ du samarbeide med land som ikke har de samme verdiene, fortsetter han.\n\n*â Tror du virkelig at de fem faste medlemmene av SikkerhetsrĂ„det vil gi opp sin vetorett?*\n\nâ Det vet jeg ikke. Men om man er optimist av natur, sĂ„ mĂ„ man i det minste forsĂžke Ă„ tenke nytt, sier Stubb.\n\n## Maktens triangel\n\nI boken beskriver Stubb «maktens triangel»: Tre ideologier som han kaller det globale vest, det globale sĂžr og det globale Ăžst. Samspillet mellom dem vil pĂ„virke den nye verdensordenen.\n\nâ Vi ser at verden er i endring, men vi vet ennĂ„ ikke hvor den er pĂ„ vei. I boken argumenterer jeg for at det vil gĂ„ noen Ă„r, kanskje til 2030, fĂžr en ny verdensorden kommer pĂ„ plass. Akkurat nĂ„ er vi i en periode hvor mektige aktĂžrer prĂžver Ă„ posisjonere seg der det finnes maktvakuum. Kina gjĂžr det, og Trumps nye fredsforum har ambisjoner om Ă„ gjĂžre det, sier han.\n\nKampen stĂ„r nĂ„ mellom to motstridende ideologier, ifĂžlge Stubb: «Jalta» eller «Helsingfors».\n\n## Fra krise til lĂžsning\n\nStubb argumenterer for at krisene i verden har tĂžmret de europeiske landene mye tettere sammen. Han beskriver EU\\-samarbeidet i tre typiske faser:\n\nâ FĂžrst er det krise, sĂ„ kaos â men sĂ„ finner vi en lĂžsning alle kan leve med, forklarer han.\n\nHan ramser opp:\n\n[Brexit ](/nyheter/i/aAMbd/slik-splitter-brexit-storbritannia)dro de europeiske landene tettere sammen. SĂ„ kom covid, krigen i Ukraina, og energikrisen som landene samarbeidet om Ă„ lĂžse. Legg til sikkerhetstrusselen fra Russland, og «et visst trykk fra USA», som Stubb beskriver.\n\n## Den han snakker mest med\n\n**Stubbs nĂŠrmeste samtalepartner i Europa er imidlertid ikke medlem i EU:**\n\nâ Skal jeg trekke fram den europeiske lederen som jeg har mest kommunikasjon med, sĂ„ er det Jonas Gahr StĂžre, sier han.\n\nStĂžre har ogsĂ„ bekreftet den tette kontakten med president Stubb. De snakker sammen eller utveksler SMS\\-er omtrent hver eneste dag.\n\n*â Hvordan kan Norge vĂŠre pĂ„ innsiden av de store beslutningene i Europa uten Ă„ vĂŠre medlem i EU?*\n\nâ EU\\-medlemskapet er en beslutning Norge selv mĂ„ ta, selv om jeg personlig skulle Ăžnske at Storbritannia, Island og Norge var med. Men som Nato\\-medlem er Norge en stor aktĂžr i saker om sikkerhet, og spesielt om Arktis.\n\n*â Hva har Norge Ă„ legge pĂ„ bordet, i tillegg til olje og gass, for Ă„ bli hĂžrt?*\n\nâ Mye handler om personlighet. Jonas er svĂŠrt aktiv i utenriks\\- og sikkerhetspolitikken. Den interessen har vi begge som tidligere utenriksministre. Norge bidrar med Ăžkt sikkerhet for oss som nytt medlem i Nato. NĂ„ samarbeider Finland, Sverige og Norge mye tettere om forsvar.\n\n## SMS til Trump\n\nSĂžndag 18. januar sendte StĂžre og Stubb en felles tekstmelding til Donald Trump. De ramset opp uenighet om GrĂžnland, Gaza, Ukraina og straffetoll, og ba om et snarlig mĂžte.\n\n[27 minutter senere fikk StĂžre svar](/nyheter/i/q6AdB0/trump-i-melding-til-stoere-foeler-ikke-lenger-noen-forpliktelse) fra Trump, som den amerikanske presidenten publiserte i sosiale medier: Ettersom Norge ikke ga Trump Nobels fredspris, var Trump ikke lengre forpliktet til Ă„ tenke fred alltid. Trump gjentok ogsĂ„ kravet om Ă„ overgi GrĂžnland til USA.\n\nâ Jeg fikk den nĂžyaktig samme meldingen. Det sto «Dear Jonas» pĂ„ min ogsĂ„, bekrefter Stubb.\n\nâ Vi melder ofte med Trump, og vi gjĂžr det sammen. Vi sender felles meldinger til andre europeiske ledere, til Ukrainas president Zelenskyj, forteller han.\n\nAlexander Stubb har ytterligere en relasjon til Donald Trump som StĂžre ikke har.\n\n## Golf\\-mĂžtet\n\nI sin ungdom var Stubb pĂ„ Finlands ungdomslandslag i golf. 29. mars i fjor gikk Stubb og Trump ut pĂ„ Trump International Golf Club i Florida.\n\nâ Jeg fikk syv timer pĂ„ tomannshĂ„nd med USAs president, mer enn alle mine forgjengere til sammen. Jeg skal ikke overvurdere min relasjon med presidenten, men jeg mener det var vel anvendt tid.\n\nDe var et team pĂ„ fem og spilte «best ball», hvor de to beste scorene pĂ„ hvert hull talte. De vekslet mellom Ă„ score par og birdies. I en turnering med rundt 30 team, vant laget med de to presidentene.\n\n*â Hva fikk du og Finland igjen for det?*\n\nâ I ettertid tekster vi, vi ringes og vi diskuterer. Jeg tror det har vĂŠrt nyttig ved at vi etterpĂ„ har solgt 11 isbrytere til USA. Det er lett Ă„ glemme at diplomati egentlig har to ben. Det ene er det mellomstatlige forholdet, interessebasert ut fra makt, kultur og historie. Det andre er personlig. Som Finlands president er det min jobb Ă„ ha et bra forhold til USAs president. Om jeg lanserer 10 ideer og han tar en av dem, da har jeg lyktes.\n\n## Sier fra\n\n*â PĂ„ grunn av ditt golfspill, er Finland pĂ„ et bedre sted enn andre europeiske land?*\n\nâ Vi har et omfattende forsvarssamarbeid med USA, basert pĂ„ gjensidig interesse. Andre saker vurderer vi ulikt: Vi tror pĂ„ EU, pĂ„ en liberal verdensorden, og pĂ„ klimatrusselen. Jeg sier fra om at vi er uenig om straffetoll. Samtidig er det i USAs interesse Ă„ trene soldater i Arktis, Ă„ samarbeide om teknologi fordi store deler av deres mobile nettverk er levert av Nokia, og Ă„ samarbeide om sjeldne mineraler.\n\n*â Er det rom for kritikk?*\n\nâ Jeg er helt Ă„pen om at vi har et annet syn enn Trump i mange saker, som EU og klima. Derfor fungerer det. Jeg sender de samme analysene til Trump: Vi er hjertelig uenig med deg om straffetoll, for eksempel. USAs sikkerhetspolitikk er ogsĂ„ endret. Det er ikke lenger en\\-til\\-en med oss i Europa.\n\n## Trump\\-hviskeren\n\nI et VG\\-intervju i 2024 fortalte Stubbs forgjenger Sauli Niinistö [om sine samtaler med Vladimir Putin](/nyheter/i/O84KqO/finlands-president-om-putin-samtalene-vi-burde-ha-forstaatt), og hvordan han ble lĂžyet for i tiden fĂžr Putin beordret invasjonen i Ukraina.\n\n**Niinistö ble kalt Putin\\-hviskeren. Stubb omtales nĂ„ som Trump\\-hviskeren.**\n\n*â Hva slags kontakt har du med Putin?*\n\nâ Vi har ikke snakket sammen siden jeg ble president for to Ă„r siden. Finske myndigheter har kontakt pĂ„ lavere nivĂ„er med Russland om grensespĂžrsmĂ„l og annet praktisk.\n\n*â Vil du kunne ha tillit til Putin etter Ukraina\\-krigen?*\n\nâ VĂ„r 1340 kilometer grense mot Russland, den gĂ„r ikke over. Ă
bygge tillit med Russland igjen kan ta flere tiĂ„r. Da er muligens dagens russiske ledere erstattet, og vi kan ikke vite hvordan de vil forholde seg til Finland.\n\n**â Mange spĂ„r en massiv russisk opprustning mot Nato nĂ„r Ukraina\\-krigen tar slutt?**\n\nâ I vĂ„r analyse er det selvsagt at vi vil ha flere russiske soldater nĂŠrt vĂ„re grenser nĂ„r Ukraina\\-krigen er over. Det er ikke noe nytt. Men Russland vet hvor sterkt vĂ„rt forsvar er. Russland vet at Finland er Nato\\-medlem, svarer han.",
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Fjorden er like frosset som Finlands forhold til Russland.\\n\\nIsbrytere jobber dag og natt for Ă„ holde rĂ„ker Ă„pne for skipstrafikken som forbinder hovedstaden med omverdenen.\\n\\nInnerst i havnen ligger presidentpalasset. Der inne sitter [Alexander Stubb](/tag/alexander-stubb?utm_source=vg-article&utm_medium=auto-tagger&utm_campaign=0pGalM) \\\\(57\\\\) og forteller VG om hvordan isen kan brytes, og en ny verdensorden kan utformes.\\n\\nOg hvorfor han mener at Russland er i ferd med Ă„ tape krigen i Ukraina.\\n\\n## Mistet Karelen\\n\\nStubbs farmor og farfar var fĂždt i Karelen, som ble sovjetisk territorium i 1944 etter utmattende krigsĂ„r. Finland mĂ„tte ogsĂ„ betale enorme belĂžp i krigserstatning til Moskva, og ble tvunget til et rettsoppgjĂžr.\\n\\nFinlands tidligere president Risto Ryti ble dĂžmt til 10 Ă„rs fengsel.\\n\\n**ù Vi fikk beholde vĂ„r selvstendighet, men vi tapte vĂ„r suverenitet, sier Stubb.**\\n\\nù Sovjetunionen dikterte vilkĂ„rene: I starten fikk vi ikke vĂŠre med i Nordisk rĂ„d, i FN eller i EFTA.\\n\\n## Fire Ă„r med krig\\n\\nTirsdag 24. februar er det fire Ă„r siden russiske stridsvogner rullet mot Kyiv. Etter krigens fĂžrste fase har Russland i liten grad lyktes med Ă„ erobre mer av Ukrainas landareal. De siste mĂ„nedene har Putin gjort alt han kan for Ă„ fryse ut befolkningen.\\n\\n*ù Kan det vĂŠre en lĂžsning for Ukraina, Ă„ gi bort areal i bytte med fred slik Finland mĂ„tte i 1944?*\\n\\nù Ut fra vĂ„r historie, forstĂ„r finnene det som holder pĂ„ Ă„ skje i Ukraina. Men Ukraina er i en langt bedre situasjon enn Finland var i, forklarer han.\\n\\n**ù Ukraina har ikke tapt denne krigen, slĂ„r Stubb fast.**\\n\\nù Det er Russland som har tapt, bĂ„de militĂŠrt, strategisk og Ăžkonomisk. Selv om Russland kontrollerer 20 prosent av Ukrainas areal, har de bare klart Ă„ ta ytterligere en prosent de to siste Ă„rene. 65.000 russiske soldater dĂžde bare i desember og januar. Da forstĂ„r du at Russland ikke kan vinne denne krigen. Ukraina vil ogsĂ„ fĂ„ sikkerhetsgarantier fra USA og Europa. Det hadde ikke Finland i 1944. Vi sto helt alene, sier den finske presidenten.\\n\\n## FN\\\\-reformer\\n\\n**Vi snakket ogsĂ„ med den finske presidenten om golf\\\\-runden som ga en unik tilgang til USAs president.**\\n\\n**Han skal i tillegg fortelle mer om det nĂŠre vennskapet med Jonas Gahr StĂžre.**\\n\\nMen fĂžrst: Alexander Stubb mener at FN mĂ„ reformeres. Ett av forslagene er at stormaktene mĂ„ oppgi sin vetorett i FNs sikkerhetsrĂ„d, og landene i sĂžr mĂ„ fĂ„ mer Ă„ si.\\n\\nù Jeg kaller det for verdibasert realisme, sier Stubb.\\n\\nDet har han skrevet en bok om. Ă«En ny verdensordenĂ» er nĂ„ ute pĂ„ norsk.\\n\\n## Optimist av natur\\n\\nù VĂ„re nordiske verdier som frihet, sikkerhet, menneskerettigheter og demokrati mĂ„ ligge fast. Men for Ă„ lĂžse verdens stĂžrste problemer som handler om klima, konflikter, energi og teknologi, da mĂ„ du samarbeide med land som ikke har de samme verdiene, fortsetter han.\\n\\n*ù Tror du virkelig at de fem faste medlemmene av SikkerhetsrĂ„det vil gi opp sin vetorett?*\\n\\nù Det vet jeg ikke. Men om man er optimist av natur, sĂ„ mĂ„ man i det minste forsĂžke Ă„ tenke nytt, sier Stubb.\\n\\n## Maktens triangel\\n\\nI boken beskriver Stubb Ă«maktens triangelĂ»: Tre ideologier som han kaller det globale vest, det globale sĂžr og det globale Ăžst. Samspillet mellom dem vil pĂ„virke den nye verdensordenen.\\n\\nù Vi ser at verden er i endring, men vi vet ennĂ„ ikke hvor den er pĂ„ vei. I boken argumenterer jeg for at det vil gĂ„ noen Ă„r, kanskje til 2030, fĂžr en ny verdensorden kommer pĂ„ plass. Akkurat nĂ„ er vi i en periode hvor mektige aktĂžrer prĂžver Ă„ posisjonere seg der det finnes maktvakuum. Kina gjĂžr det, og Trumps nye fredsforum har ambisjoner om Ă„ gjĂžre det, sier han.\\n\\nKampen stĂ„r nĂ„ mellom to motstridende ideologier, ifĂžlge Stubb: Ă«JaltaĂ» eller Ă«HelsingforsĂ».\\n\\n## Fra krise til lĂžsning\\n\\nStubb argumenterer for at krisene i verden har tĂžmret de europeiske landene mye tettere sammen. Han beskriver EU\\\\-samarbeidet i tre typiske faser:\\n\\nù FĂžrst er det krise, sĂ„ kaos ù men sĂ„ finner vi en lĂžsning alle kan leve med, forklarer han.\\n\\nHan ramser opp:\\n\\n[Brexit ](/nyheter/i/aAMbd/slik-splitter-brexit-storbritannia)dro de europeiske landene tettere sammen. SĂ„ kom covid, krigen i Ukraina, og energikrisen som landene samarbeidet om Ă„ lĂžse. Legg til sikkerhetstrusselen fra Russland, og Ă«et visst trykk fra USAĂ», som Stubb beskriver.\\n\\n## Den han snakker mest med\\n\\n**Stubbs nĂŠrmeste samtalepartner i Europa er imidlertid ikke medlem i EU:**\\n\\nù Skal jeg trekke fram den europeiske lederen som jeg har mest kommunikasjon med, sĂ„ er det Jonas Gahr StĂžre, sier han.\\n\\nStĂžre har ogsĂ„ bekreftet den tette kontakten med president Stubb. De snakker sammen eller utveksler SMS\\\\-er omtrent hver eneste dag.\\n\\n*ù Hvordan kan Norge vĂŠre pĂ„ innsiden av de store beslutningene i Europa uten Ă„ vĂŠre medlem i EU?*\\n\\nù EU\\\\-medlemskapet er en beslutning Norge selv mĂ„ ta, selv om jeg personlig skulle Ăžnske at Storbritannia, Island og Norge var med. Men som Nato\\\\-medlem er Norge en stor aktĂžr i saker om sikkerhet, og spesielt om Arktis.\\n\\n*ù Hva har Norge Ă„ legge pĂ„ bordet, i tillegg til olje og gass, for Ă„ bli hĂžrt?*\\n\\nù Mye handler om personlighet. Jonas er svĂŠrt aktiv i utenriks\\\\- og sikkerhetspolitikken. Den interessen har vi begge som tidligere utenriksministre. Norge bidrar med Ăžkt sikkerhet for oss som nytt medlem i Nato. NĂ„ samarbeider Finland, Sverige og Norge mye tettere om forsvar.\\n\\n## SMS til Trump\\n\\nSĂžndag 18. januar sendte StĂžre og Stubb en felles tekstmelding til Donald Trump. De ramset opp uenighet om GrĂžnland, Gaza, Ukraina og straffetoll, og ba om et snarlig mĂžte.\\n\\n[27 minutter senere fikk StĂžre svar](/nyheter/i/q6AdB0/trump-i-melding-til-stoere-foeler-ikke-lenger-noen-forpliktelse) fra Trump, som den amerikanske presidenten publiserte i sosiale medier: Ettersom Norge ikke ga Trump Nobels fredspris, var Trump ikke lengre forpliktet til Ă„ tenke fred alltid. Trump gjentok ogsĂ„ kravet om Ă„ overgi GrĂžnland til USA.\\n\\nù Jeg fikk den nĂžyaktig samme meldingen. Det sto Ă«Dear JonasĂ» pĂ„ min ogsĂ„, bekrefter Stubb.\\n\\nù Vi melder ofte med Trump, og vi gjĂžr det sammen. Vi sender felles meldinger til andre europeiske ledere, til Ukrainas president Zelenskyj, forteller han.\\n\\nAlexander Stubb har ytterligere en relasjon til Donald Trump som StĂžre ikke har.\\n\\n## Golf\\\\-mĂžtet\\n\\nI sin ungdom var Stubb pĂ„ Finlands ungdomslandslag i golf. 29. mars i fjor gikk Stubb og Trump ut pĂ„ Trump International Golf Club i Florida.\\n\\nù Jeg fikk syv timer pĂ„ tomannshĂ„nd med USAs president, mer enn alle mine forgjengere til sammen. Jeg skal ikke overvurdere min relasjon med presidenten, men jeg mener det var vel anvendt tid.\\n\\nDe var et team pĂ„ fem og spilte Ă«best ballĂ», hvor de to beste scorene pĂ„ hvert hull talte. De vekslet mellom Ă„ score par og birdies. I en turnering med rundt 30 team, vant laget med de to presidentene.\\n\\n*ù Hva fikk du og Finland igjen for det?*\\n\\nù I ettertid tekster vi, vi ringes og vi diskuterer. Jeg tror det har vĂŠrt nyttig ved at vi etterpĂ„ har solgt 11 isbrytere til USA. Det er lett Ă„ glemme at diplomati egentlig har to ben. Det ene er det mellomstatlige forholdet, interessebasert ut fra makt, kultur og historie. Det andre er personlig. Som Finlands president er det min jobb Ă„ ha et bra forhold til USAs president. Om jeg lanserer 10 ideer og han tar en av dem, da har jeg lyktes.\\n\\n## Sier fra\\n\\n*ù PĂ„ grunn av ditt golfspill, er Finland pĂ„ et bedre sted enn andre europeiske land?*\\n\\nù Vi har et omfattende forsvarssamarbeid med USA, basert pĂ„ gjensidig interesse. Andre saker vurderer vi ulikt: Vi tror pĂ„ EU, pĂ„ en liberal verdensorden, og pĂ„ klimatrusselen. Jeg sier fra om at vi er uenig om straffetoll. Samtidig er det i USAs interesse Ă„ trene soldater i Arktis, Ă„ samarbeide om teknologi fordi store deler av deres mobile nettverk er levert av Nokia, og Ă„ samarbeide om sjeldne mineraler.\\n\\n*ù Er det rom for kritikk?*\\n\\nù Jeg er helt Ă„pen om at vi har et annet syn enn Trump i mange saker, som EU og klima. Derfor fungerer det. Jeg sender de samme analysene til Trump: Vi er hjertelig uenig med deg om straffetoll, for eksempel. USAs sikkerhetspolitikk er ogsĂ„ endret. Det er ikke lenger en\\\\-til\\\\-en med oss i Europa.\\n\\n## Trump\\\\-hviskeren\\n\\nI et VG\\\\-intervju i 2024 fortalte Stubbs forgjenger Sauli Niinistö [om sine samtaler med Vladimir Putin](/nyheter/i/O84KqO/finlands-president-om-putin-samtalene-vi-burde-ha-forstaatt), og hvordan han ble lĂžyet for i tiden fĂžr Putin beordret invasjonen i Ukraina.\\n\\n**Niinistö ble kalt Putin\\\\-hviskeren. Stubb omtales nĂ„ som Trump\\\\-hviskeren.**\\n\\n*ù Hva slags kontakt har du med Putin?*\\n\\nù Vi har ikke snakket sammen siden jeg ble president for to Ă„r siden. Finske myndigheter har kontakt pĂ„ lavere nivĂ„er med Russland om grensespĂžrsmĂ„l og annet praktisk.\\n\\n*ù Vil du kunne ha tillit til Putin etter Ukraina\\\\-krigen?*\\n\\nù VĂ„r 1340 kilometer grense mot Russland, den gĂ„r ikke over. ĂÂ
bygge tillit med Russland igjen kan ta flere tiÄr. Da er muligens dagens russiske ledere erstattet, og vi kan ikke vite hvordan de vil forholde seg til Finland.\\n\\n**ù Mange spÄr en massiv russisk opprustning mot Nato nÄr Ukraina\\\\-krigen tar slutt?**\\n\\nù I vÄr analyse er det selvsagt at vi vil ha flere russiske soldater nÊrt vÄre grenser nÄr Ukraina\\\\-krigen er over. Det er ikke noe nytt. Men Russland vet hvor sterkt vÄrt forsvar er. Russland vet at Finland er Nato\\\\-medlem, svarer han.\",\"meta\":{\"viewport\":\"width=device-width, initial-scale=1\",\"sentry-trace\":\"c58bd9b47c53b5b8901d0053a342429e-8d8162cceaf10caf-0\",\"sentry-route-name\":\"%2F%5B...slug%5D\",\"robots\":\"max-image-preview:large, noarchive\",\"keywords\":\"Alexander Stubb, Finland, Jonas Gahr StÞre, Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, Ukraina, vg:samfunn, Krigen i Ukraina\",\"description\":\"ù Ukraina er pÄ vei til Ä vinne krigen mot Russland, sier Finlands president Alexander Stubb.\",\"baggage\":\"sentry-environment=production,sentry-release=vgno-artikkel%40bb2df7941,sentry-public_key=2d8dce823c094e8b9733997b0bdf3f86,sentry-trace_id=c58bd9b47c53b5b8901d0053a342429e,sentry-sampled=false,sentry-sample_rand=0.059599904399271875,sentry-sample_rate=0\",\"publisheddate\":\"2026-02-24\"},\"keywords\":[\"Alexander Stubb\",\"Finland\",\"Jonas Gahr StÞre\",\"Donald Trump\",\"Vladimir Putin\",\"Ukraina\",\"vg:samfunn\",\"Krigen i Ukraina\"]}",
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class=\"article-body\" itemprop=\"articleBody\" style=\"display: contents\"> <div class=\"layout-component layout-padded layout-normal _tts_1njly_1\" data-track-id=\"tts:37310\" data-track-impression data-track-name=\"SMS-diplomaten\" data-track-target-newsroom=\"vgtts\"><astro-island await-children client=\"load\" component-export=\"TTSPlayer\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/video.mhxDKcCw.js\" opts=\"{"name":"TTSPlayer","value":true}\" prefix=\"r230\" props=\"{"assetId":[0,37310],"vendor":[0,"vgtts"],"isApp":[0,false]}\" renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"1WTMzl\"><div class=\"_svpContainer_1nwbk_1\"><div id=\"svp-video-37310-«r230R0»\"></div></div><div class=\"_perspective_1nwbk_11\"><div class=\"_controls_1nwbk_16\"><div class=\"_initial_1nwbk_33\"><button aria-disabled=\"true\" aria-label=\"Laster inn lytt til saken avspiller\" class=\"_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large 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component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/ArticleSummary.GlYpg37Z.js\" opts=\"{"name":"ArticleSummary","value":true}\" prefix=\"r13\" props=\"{"articleSummary":[1,[[0,{"items":[1,[[0,{"value":[0,"Finlands president Alexander Stubb sier Ukraina er pĂ„ vei til Ă„ vinne krigen mot Russland."],"markup":[1,[]]}],[0,{"value":[0,"Han trekker paralleller til Finlands tap av Karelen etter krigen i 1944."],"markup":[1,[]]}],[0,{"value":[0,"Stubb mener FN mĂ„ reformeres og stormakter bĂžr gi opp vetoretten."],"markup":[1,[]]}],[0,{"value":[0,"Han fremhever sitt nĂŠre forhold til Jonas Gahr StĂžre, og forteller om den lange golfrunden med USAs president."],"markup":[1,[]]}]]],"blockType":[0,"list:unordered"]}]]],"type":[0,"feature"],"introType":[0,"sticky"]}\" renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"22ygOb\"><div class=\"_summary_64s2r_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded\"><track-element data-track-element-type=\"Article Summary\" data-track-id=\"article-summary\" data-track-impression=\"\" data-track-name=\"Article Summary\"><section aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-label=\"Utvid\" class=\"_box_1mfx9_1 font-vg-sans layout-component layout-normal _box_64s2r_31\" id=\"«r13R0»\" role=\"region\" style=\"max-height:var(--height)\"><div class=\"_titleContainer_64s2r_44\"><h2 class=\"title-serif-s _title_64s2r_44\">Kortversjonen</h2><button aria-label=\"Vis informasjon\" class=\"_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large _button_64s2r_20\" data-track-id=\"article-summary-disclaimer\" data-track-name=\"Article Summary Disclaimer\" role=\"button\" type=\"button\"><svg aria-label=\"Ai\" fill=\"none\" height=\"24px\" role=\"graphics-symbol\" style=\"flex-shrink:0;height:var(--icon-size, var(--space-l));width:auto\" viewbox=\"0 0 24 24\" width=\"24px\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\"><path d=\"M12.4244 11.4646L17.3 13.2687V15.3201L12.4244 17.1242L10.6202 22H8.56907L6.76485 17.1242L2 15.361V13.2278L6.76485 11.4646L8.52796 6.69995H10.6613L12.4244 11.4646Z\" fill=\"var(--icon-color, currentColor)\"></path><path d=\"M19.6103 4.33579L22 5.22004V6.22577L19.6103 7.11012L18.7259 9.50008H17.7203L16.8359 7.11012L14.5 6.24569V5.20012L16.8359 4.33579L17.7003 2.00003H18.7459L19.6103 4.33579Z\" fill=\"var(--icon-color, currentColor)\"></path></svg></button></div><div class=\"_disclaimer_64s2r_50\" hidden=\"\"><span class=\"_text_64s2r_64\" data-nosnippet=\"true\">Oppsummeringen er laget med kunstig intelligens og<!-- --> <a href=\"https://www.vg.no/informasjon/redaksjonelle-avgjorelser/183\">kvalitetssikret av VGs journalister.</a></span></div><ul class=\"_list_o9xde_3 _list_64s2r_85 _unordered_o9xde_106 text-sans-m\"><li class=\"_item_o9xde_30\">Finlands president Alexander Stubb sier Ukraina er pĂ„ vei til Ă„ vinne krigen mot Russland.</li><li class=\"_item_o9xde_30\">Han trekker paralleller til Finlands tap av Karelen etter krigen i 1944.</li><li class=\"_item_o9xde_30\">Stubb mener FN mĂ„ reformeres og stormakter bĂžr gi opp vetoretten.</li><li class=\"_item_o9xde_30\">Han fremhever sitt nĂŠre forhold til Jonas Gahr StĂžre, og forteller om den lange golfrunden med USAs president.</li></ul><button aria-controls=\"«r13R0»\" class=\"_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large _hug_6bkpv_81 _filled_6bkpv_106 _button_1mfx9_76\" role=\"button\" type=\"button\"><span>Vis <!-- -->mer</span></button></section></track-element></div><!--astro:end--></astro-island> <p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Iskald vind sniker seg rundt gatehjĂžrnene i Helsingfors. Fjorden er like frosset som Finlands forhold til Russland. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"> Isbrytere jobber dag og natt for Ă„ holde rĂ„ker Ă„pne for skipstrafikken som forbinder hovedstaden med omverdenen. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Innerst i havnen ligger presidentpalasset. 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4e5c862e-1561-4d9d-9af4-863b350df24e?format=auto&w=1440&s=93278d552a644e0bd03535a710f58dae00d680b4 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4e5c862e-1561-4d9d-9af4-863b350df24e?format=auto&w=2160&s=2d87eea7df44d35ebdffa1a8733792df351195c0 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"7065\"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island></div><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Mistet Karelen </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Stubbs farmor og farfar var fĂždt i <abbr class=\"_explanation_o9xde_140\" tabindex=\"0\" title=\"Et geografisk omrĂ„de som strekker seg fra de mest Ăžstlige og sĂžrĂžstlige delene av Finland mot Russland.\">Karelen<span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151\" role=\"presentation\"><span class=\"text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156\">Karelen</span>Et geografisk omrĂ„de som strekker seg fra de mest Ăžstlige og sĂžrĂžstlige delene av Finland mot Russland.</span></abbr>, som ble sovjetisk territorium i 1944 etter utmattende krigsĂ„r. Finland mĂ„tte ogsĂ„ betale enorme belĂžp i krigserstatning til Moskva, og ble tvunget til et rettsoppgjĂžr. </p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_2\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Finlands tidligere president Risto Ryti ble dĂžmt til 10 Ă„rs fengsel. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Vi fikk beholde vĂ„r selvstendighet, men vi tapte vĂ„r suverenitet, sier Stubb.</strong></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Sovjetunionen dikterte vilkĂ„rene: I starten fikk vi ikke vĂŠre med i Nordisk rĂ„d, i FN eller i EFTA.</p><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Fire Ă„r med krig </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Tirsdag 24. februar er det fire Ă„r siden russiske stridsvogner rullet mot Kyiv. Etter krigens fĂžrste fase har Russland i liten grad lyktes med Ă„ erobre mer av Ukrainas landareal. De siste mĂ„nedene har Putin gjort alt han kan for Ă„ fryse ut befolkningen. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"> <em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Kan det vĂŠre en lĂžsning for Ukraina, Ă„ gi bort areal i bytte med fred slik Finland mĂ„tte i 1944?</strong></em></p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_3\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Ut fra vĂ„r historie, forstĂ„r finnene det som holder pĂ„ Ă„ skje i Ukraina. Men Ukraina er i en langt bedre situasjon enn Finland var i, forklarer han.</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Ukraina har ikke tapt denne krigen, slĂ„r Stubb fast.</strong></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Det er Russland som har tapt, bĂ„de militĂŠrt, strategisk og Ăžkonomisk. Selv om Russland kontrollerer 20 prosent av Ukrainas areal, har de bare klart Ă„ ta ytterligere en prosent de to siste Ă„rene. 65.000 russiske soldater dĂžde bare i desember og januar. Da forstĂ„r du at Russland ikke kan vinne denne krigen. Ukraina vil ogsĂ„ fĂ„ sikkerhetsgarantier fra USA og Europa. Det hadde ikke Finland i 1944. Vi sto helt alene, sier den finske presidenten.</p><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">FN-reformer </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">Vi snakket ogsĂ„ med den finske presidenten om <a class=\"_link_o9xde_39\" data-track-element-type=\"Link\" data-track-id=\"link:dR89Oz\" href=\"/nyheter/i/dR89Oz/president-stubb-vi-beveger-oss-mer-mot-mistillitssiden\">golf-runden som ga en unik tilgang til USAs president. </a></strong></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">Han skal i tillegg fortelle mer om <a class=\"_link_o9xde_39\" data-track-element-type=\"Link\" data-track-id=\"link:kw63BX\" href=\"/nyheter/i/kw63BX/stoere-paa-teambuilding-i-bodoe-med-kristersson-og-stubb\">det nĂŠre vennskapet med Jonas Gahr StĂžre. </a></strong></p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_4\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Men fĂžrst: Alexander Stubb mener at FN mĂ„ reformeres. Ett av forslagene er at stormaktene mĂ„ oppgi sin vetorett i FNs sikkerhetsrĂ„d, og landene i sĂžr mĂ„ fĂ„ mer Ă„ si. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Jeg kaller det for verdibasert realisme, sier Stubb.</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Det har han skrevet en bok om. «En ny verdensorden» er nĂ„ ute pĂ„ norsk.</p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r153\" 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renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"ZzmulH\"><figure class=\"_figure_qp4xg_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"_image_qp4xg_65 layout-component layout-normal\" data-fullscreen-sizes=\"(min-width: 1000px) 2000px, 2000vw\" data-track-element-type=\"Article image fullscreen\" data-track-name=\"ImageFullscreen\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"5477\" itemprop=\"image\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"(min-width: 980px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=40&s=b07f83c9d05163c1484fad72def62e8dfb0f9eca\" srcset=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=40&s=b07f83c9d05163c1484fad72def62e8dfb0f9eca 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=80&s=249a33cc7f25b3245904ea34fd6edb8c77b41aa0 80w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=100&s=78ff0387ac3e19c8beda09c267ae0980721560ec 100w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=200&s=581c19070dcbc44258d81dc05f53c602d13eb921 200w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=240&s=3124d5b9aae1fc68ac8eadb654c410a75fcd17a1 240w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=480&s=d2878b26c5c9d5e16a4b65093f7248b5bd4efe75 480w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=580&s=eacfcb7f4cf418af7a52b50226e120f1c71193b4 580w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=720&s=74b01bdb82b3d7c929c7c0ea203fdf8b7582684b 720w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=1080&s=d5b44b5af84e93c475535f430ffba379779e9eb6 1080w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=1440&s=7594b1aafebeaf920514d1a5955993ca39c898ac 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=2160&s=699062d03b7bd26222c318bd1fac14902acc60c8 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"7303\"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Optimist av natur </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â VĂ„re nordiske verdier som frihet, sikkerhet, menneskerettigheter og demokrati mĂ„ ligge fast. Men for Ă„ lĂžse verdens stĂžrste problemer som handler om klima, konflikter, energi og teknologi, da mĂ„ du samarbeide med land som ikke har de samme verdiene, fortsetter han.</p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_5\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Tror du virkelig at de fem faste medlemmene av SikkerhetsrĂ„det vil gi opp sin vetorett? </strong></em></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Det vet jeg ikke. Men om man er optimist av natur, sĂ„ mĂ„ man i det minste forsĂžke Ă„ tenke nytt, sier Stubb.</p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"FactBox\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/FactBox.3qMhHu30.js\" opts=\"{"name":"FactBox","value":true}\" prefix=\"r159\" props=\"{"component":[0,{"title":[0,{"value":[0,"Dette er Alexander Stubb"]}],"paragraphs":[1,[[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Cai-Göran Alexander Stubb (fĂždt 1. april 1968) har vĂŠrt Finlands president siden 1. mars 2024. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Han vokste opp i Helsingfors i et tosprĂ„klig hjem: moren var finsksprĂ„klig mens faren snakket svensk og var toppsjef i Finlands ishockeyforbund og talentspeider for den amerikanske ishockeyligaen NHL. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Alexander Stubb har studert ved universiteter i USA, Frankrike, Belgia og Storbritannia, og har en doktorgrad i statsvitenskap fra London School of Economics. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Etter en periode som folkevalgt i EU-parlamentet for Samlingspartiet, som er HĂžyres finske sĂžsterparti, ble Stubb utnevnt til utenriksminister i Finland i 2008. Han fortsatte i ulike finske koalisjonsregjeringer som europaminister, statsminister og finansminister fram til 2016. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"I 2017 forlot han Finland for Ă„ bli visepresident i den europeiske investeringsbanken. Fra 2020 og fram til han startet president-kampanjen hĂžsten 2023, var han professor i statsvitenskap ved Europa-universitetet i Firenze. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Stubb vant europamesterskapet i triatlon i sin aldersklasse i 2022. I fjor sommer tok han annenplassen i et triatlon-stevne i Finland, som besto av 750 meter svĂžmming, 20 kilometer sykling og 5 kilometer lĂžping."],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}]]],"type":[0,"fact"]}],"type":[0,"feature"]}\" renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"Zsweyi\"><div class=\"_factbox_16v91_30 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded\"><section aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-label=\"Utvid\" class=\"_box_1mfx9_1 font-vg-sans layout-component layout-normal _box_16v91_39\" id=\"«r159R0»\" role=\"region\" style=\"max-height:var(--height)\"><h2 class=\"_title_16v91_25 title-serif-s\">Dette er Alexander Stubb</h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Cai-Göran Alexander Stubb (fĂždt 1. april 1968) har vĂŠrt Finlands president siden 1. mars 2024. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Han vokste opp i Helsingfors i et tosprĂ„klig hjem: moren var finsksprĂ„klig mens faren snakket svensk og var toppsjef i Finlands ishockeyforbund og talentspeider for den amerikanske ishockeyligaen NHL. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Alexander Stubb har studert ved universiteter i USA, Frankrike, Belgia og Storbritannia, og har en doktorgrad i statsvitenskap fra London School of Economics. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Etter en periode som folkevalgt i EU-parlamentet for Samlingspartiet, som er HĂžyres finske sĂžsterparti, ble Stubb utnevnt til utenriksminister i Finland i 2008. Han fortsatte i ulike finske koalisjonsregjeringer som europaminister, statsminister og finansminister fram til 2016. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">I 2017 forlot han Finland for Ă„ bli visepresident i den europeiske investeringsbanken. Fra 2020 og fram til han startet president-kampanjen hĂžsten 2023, var han professor i statsvitenskap ved Europa-universitetet i Firenze. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Stubb vant europamesterskapet i triatlon i sin aldersklasse i 2022. I fjor sommer tok han annenplassen i et triatlon-stevne i Finland, som besto av 750 meter svĂžmming, 20 kilometer sykling og 5 kilometer lĂžping.</p><button aria-controls=\"«r159R0»\" class=\"_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large _hug_6bkpv_81 _filled_6bkpv_106 _button_1mfx9_76\" data-track-element-type=\"Factbox\" data-track-id=\"factbox:dette-er-alexander-stubb\" data-track-impression=\"true\" data-track-name=\"Dette er Alexander Stubb\" role=\"button\" type=\"button\"><span>Vis <!-- -->mer</span></button></section></div><!--astro:end--></astro-island><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Maktens triangel </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">I boken beskriver Stubb «maktens triangel»: Tre ideologier som han kaller det globale vest, det globale sĂžr og det globale Ăžst. Samspillet mellom dem vil pĂ„virke den nye verdensordenen.</p><article class=\"layout-component layout-normal layout-padded _small_1woao_91 mb-cpg\"><a class=\"_link_1woao_14\" data-track-id=\"teaser:6q6kvr\" data-track-impression=\"true\" data-track-name=\"Bokanmeldelse: Men hva med Trump?\" href=\"https://www.vg.no/rampelys/i/6q6kvr/men-hva-med-trump\"><h3 class=\"title-serif-xs _title_1woao_44\">Bokanmeldelse: Men hva med Trump?</h3><figure class=\"_figure_1woao_1\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"_image_1woao_6\" height=\"2422\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"200px\" src=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=40&s=7759e1e71f4600f4511fd9c1043a2ac9dc27120f\" srcset=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=40&s=7759e1e71f4600f4511fd9c1043a2ac9dc27120f 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=80&s=8a76c711afffcf46fbbea79384a78e771e2c3d66 80w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=100&s=babbe8b7faf71cf51190fcc2eab830df75ba4907 100w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=200&s=ba7d8689c97895fca90333d8e9b913b0174d6e1b 200w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=240&s=09ca7fbefb17fb77198e86602f017bb6f3fff8e9 240w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=480&s=5291c9c557c7a153ddccec7d7ff0b8cc262537c1 480w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=580&s=96d15162aae278e9eafe13b0245326c66570d1dd 580w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=720&s=4a8f0d2bf5e95f244f4a7708879071042677fba4 720w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=1080&s=fe59e64c6bb4a51d44cad9c7aebfdba9e31abfda 1080w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=1440&s=469bb1ed0f64bb1e3ee0147caf5a39d47ebe10fa 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=2160&s=461d6327c90978d40ed54d388e8fbab27e78757a 2160w\" width=\"2653\"></figure></a></article><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Vi ser at verden er i endring, men vi vet ennĂ„ ikke hvor den er pĂ„ vei. I boken argumenterer jeg for at det vil gĂ„ noen Ă„r, kanskje til 2030, fĂžr en ny verdensorden kommer pĂ„ plass. Akkurat nĂ„ er vi i en periode hvor mektige aktĂžrer prĂžver Ă„ posisjonere seg der det finnes maktvakuum. Kina gjĂžr det, og Trumps nye fredsforum har ambisjoner om Ă„ gjĂžre det, sier han. </p><div class=\"responsive\"><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r163\" 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4a0ce8fa-f9ff-43a6-9ddf-d35c0aa77cd8?format=auto&w=1440&s=82d4ce776550ac3229f83cac334c618273c4ddcd 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4a0ce8fa-f9ff-43a6-9ddf-d35c0aa77cd8?format=auto&w=2160&s=9e5777420a3e29bc888c05b0bdb4ba037ae1fddd 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"8256\"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Kampen stĂ„r nĂ„ mellom to motstridende ideologier, ifĂžlge Stubb: <abbr class=\"_explanation_o9xde_140\" tabindex=\"0\" title=\"I Jalta i 1945 la andre verdenskrigs seierherrer â USA, Storbritannia og Sovjetunionen â grunnlaget for en verdensorden basert pĂ„ stormaktenes interesser. \">«Jalta»<span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151\" role=\"presentation\"><span class=\"text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156\">«Jalta»</span>I Jalta i 1945 la andre verdenskrigs seierherrer â USA, Storbritannia og Sovjetunionen â grunnlaget for en verdensorden basert pĂ„ stormaktenes interesser. </span></abbr> eller <abbr class=\"_explanation_o9xde_140\" tabindex=\"0\" title=\"I 1975 kom 35 stater sammen i Helsingfors og etablerte en europeisk sikkerhetsstruktur basert pĂ„ regler, normer, og respekt for gjeldende landegrenser. \">«Helsingfors».<span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151\" role=\"presentation\"><span class=\"text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156\">«Helsingfors».</span>I 1975 kom 35 stater sammen i Helsingfors og etablerte en europeisk sikkerhetsstruktur basert pĂ„ regler, normer, og respekt for gjeldende landegrenser. </span></abbr></p><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Fra krise til lĂžsning </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Stubb argumenterer for at krisene i verden har tĂžmret de europeiske landene mye tettere sammen. Han beskriver EU-samarbeidet i tre typiske faser:</p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_6\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â FĂžrst er det krise, sĂ„ kaos â men sĂ„ finner vi en lĂžsning alle kan leve med, forklarer han.</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Han ramser opp: </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><a class=\"_link_o9xde_39\" data-track-element-type=\"Link\" data-track-id=\"link:aAMbd\" href=\"/nyheter/i/aAMbd/slik-splitter-brexit-storbritannia\">Brexit </a>dro de europeiske landene tettere sammen. SĂ„ kom covid, krigen i Ukraina, og energikrisen som landene samarbeidet om Ă„ lĂžse. Legg til sikkerhetstrusselen fra Russland, og «et visst trykk fra USA», som Stubb beskriver. </p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r173\" 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/7702ac14-b448-4426-813c-59228ffaf7ea?format=auto&w=1440&s=822851a6e0bc1e79b1a069d501a192b4c8cd3ca1 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/7702ac14-b448-4426-813c-59228ffaf7ea?format=auto&w=2160&s=edfc4aed8b4c194610f1ab61ed04a541b7adadab 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"3263\"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Den han snakker mest med </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">Stubbs nĂŠrmeste samtalepartner i Europa er imidlertid ikke medlem i EU:</strong></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Skal jeg trekke fram den europeiske lederen som jeg har mest kommunikasjon med, sĂ„ er det Jonas Gahr StĂžre, sier han.</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">StĂžre har ogsĂ„ bekreftet den tette kontakten med president Stubb. De snakker sammen eller utveksler SMS-er omtrent hver eneste dag.</p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_7\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Hvordan kan Norge vĂŠre pĂ„ innsiden av de store beslutningene i Europa uten Ă„ vĂŠre medlem i EU?</strong></em></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â EU-medlemskapet er en beslutning Norge selv mĂ„ ta, selv om jeg personlig skulle Ăžnske at Storbritannia, Island og Norge var med. 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Jonas er svĂŠrt aktiv i utenriks- og sikkerhetspolitikken. Den interessen har vi begge som tidligere utenriksministre. Norge bidrar med Ăžkt sikkerhet for oss som nytt medlem i Nato. NĂ„ samarbeider Finland, Sverige og Norge mye tettere om forsvar.</p><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">SMS til Trump </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">SĂžndag 18. januar sendte StĂžre og Stubb en felles tekstmelding til Donald Trump. De ramset opp uenighet om GrĂžnland, Gaza, Ukraina og straffetoll, og ba om et snarlig mĂžte.</p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r188\" props=\"{"alt":[0],"caption":[0,"Foto: Hallgeir VĂ„genes / 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/96ce3533-6b7e-4dfe-904a-2b125daae56a?format=auto&w=1440&s=23ba348da58ebe99c99f035594b96743a9705d1e 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/96ce3533-6b7e-4dfe-904a-2b125daae56a?format=auto&w=2160&s=610205b1f750a102a1815aecd24ce4653b7eda5e 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"3647\"><figcaption class=\"text-sans-s _caption_qp4xg_10 layout-component\">Foto: Hallgeir VĂ„genes / VG</figcaption></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><a class=\"_link_o9xde_39\" data-track-element-type=\"Link\" data-track-id=\"link:q6AdB0\" href=\"/nyheter/i/q6AdB0/trump-i-melding-til-stoere-foeler-ikke-lenger-noen-forpliktelse\">27 minutter senere fikk StĂžre svar</a> fra Trump, som den amerikanske presidenten publiserte i sosiale medier: Ettersom Norge ikke ga Trump Nobels fredspris, var Trump ikke lengre forpliktet til Ă„ tenke fred alltid. Trump gjentok ogsĂ„ kravet om Ă„ overgi GrĂžnland til USA. </p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"FactBox\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/FactBox.3qMhHu30.js\" opts=\"{"name":"FactBox","value":true}\" prefix=\"r190\" props=\"{"component":[0,{"title":[0,{"value":[0,"Slik var SMS-utvekslingen "]}],"paragraphs":[1,[[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Tekstmelding fra statsminister StĂžre til president Trump 18. januar kl. 15:48: «Dear Mr president, dear Donald â on the contact across the Atlantic â on Greenland, Gaza, Ukraine â and your tariff announcement yesterday. You know our position on these issues. But we believe we all should work to take this down and de-escalate â so much is happening around us where we need to stand together. We are proposing a call with you later today â with both of us or separately â give us a hint of what you prefer! Best â Alex and Jonas»"],"markup":[1,[[0,{"type":[0,"style:em"],"offset":[0,80],"length":[0,448]}]]]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Tekstmelding fra president Trump til statsminister StĂžre 18. januar kl. 16:15: «Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a âright of ownershipâ anyway? There are no written documents, itâs only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT»"],"markup":[1,[[0,{"type":[0,"style:em"],"offset":[0,80],"length":[0,757]}]]]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}]]],"type":[0,"fact"]}],"type":[0,"feature"]}\" renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"aJa32\"><div class=\"_factbox_16v91_30 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded\"><section aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-label=\"Utvid\" class=\"_box_1mfx9_1 font-vg-sans layout-component layout-normal _box_16v91_39\" id=\"«r190R0»\" role=\"region\" style=\"max-height:var(--height)\"><h2 class=\"_title_16v91_25 title-serif-s\">Slik var SMS-utvekslingen </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Tekstmelding fra statsminister StĂžre til president Trump 18. januar kl. 15:48: «<em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\">Dear Mr president, dear Donald â on the contact across the Atlantic â on Greenland, Gaza, Ukraine â and your tariff announcement yesterday. You know our position on these issues. But we believe we all should work to take this down and de-escalate â so much is happening around us where we need to stand together. We are proposing a call with you later today â with both of us or separately â give us a hint of what you prefer! Best â Alex and Jonas</em>»</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Tekstmelding fra president Trump til statsminister StĂžre 18. januar kl. 16:15: «<em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\">Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a âright of ownershipâ anyway? There are no written documents, itâs only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT</em>»</p><button aria-controls=\"«r190R0»\" class=\"_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large _hug_6bkpv_81 _filled_6bkpv_106 _button_1mfx9_76\" data-track-element-type=\"Factbox\" data-track-id=\"factbox:slik-var-sms-utvekslingen\" data-track-impression=\"true\" data-track-name=\"Slik var SMS-utvekslingen \" role=\"button\" type=\"button\"><span>Vis <!-- -->mer</span></button></section></div><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Jeg fikk den nĂžyaktig samme meldingen. Det sto «Dear Jonas» pĂ„ min ogsĂ„, bekrefter Stubb.</p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_8\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Vi melder ofte med Trump, og vi gjĂžr det sammen. Vi sender felles meldinger til andre europeiske ledere, til Ukrainas president Zelenskyj, forteller han.</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Alexander Stubb har ytterligere en relasjon til Donald Trump som StĂžre ikke har. </p><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Golf-mĂžtet </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">I sin ungdom var Stubb pĂ„ Finlands ungdomslandslag i golf. 29. mars i fjor gikk Stubb og Trump ut pĂ„ Trump International Golf Club i Florida. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Jeg fikk syv timer pĂ„ tomannshĂ„nd med USAs president, mer enn alle mine forgjengere til sammen. Jeg skal ikke overvurdere min relasjon med presidenten, men jeg mener det var vel anvendt tid.</p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r198\" props=\"{"alt":[0],"caption":[0,"Foto: Finnish Presidential Office via Instagram"],"device":[0],"editorialJudgment":[0],"imageAsset":[0,{"id":[0,"2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a"],"size":[0,{"width":[0,877],"height":[0,1170]}],"hotspot":[0,{"x":[0,213],"y":[0,76],"width":[0,427],"height":[0,320]}],"urls":[1,[[0,{"height":[0,53],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=40&s=38171b5210c29edf92548e140caf128dc87144d6"],"width":[0,40]}],[0,{"height":[0,107],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=80&s=c4d32ae9b0cbe6ee821b900f7cd9735e46ada8e1"],"width":[0,80]}],[0,{"height":[0,133],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=100&s=1fac5f0ff24d1c2dfdefcf6ae98fac0d7313e53a"],"width":[0,100]}],[0,{"height":[0,267],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=200&s=14c1dc3d3e3f16eeab079d32729d1cf28b1ef859"],"width":[0,200]}],[0,{"height":[0,320],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=240&s=2ed439ca0bf2359308bc0e7dd68a0742cbfc9aa3"],"width":[0,240]}],[0,{"height":[0,640],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=480&s=8cbf5bbf1d9021058197c164238b4a33243be41d"],"width":[0,480]}],[0,{"height":[0,774],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=580&s=c9d9b0861297248f3a59c2bc188999494fc6fa40"],"width":[0,580]}],[0,{"height":[0,961],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=720&s=d35bf401e5e2642c590297506b41f922e8a91b40"],"width":[0,720]}]]]}],"layout":[0],"marginBottom":[0],"padded":[0],"type":[0,"feature"]}\" renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"ZhiJY5\"><figure class=\"_figure_qp4xg_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded\"><img alt=\"Foto: Finnish Presidential Office via Instagram\" class=\"_image_qp4xg_65 layout-component layout-normal\" data-fullscreen-sizes=\"(min-width: 1000px) 2000px, 2000vw\" data-track-element-type=\"Article image fullscreen\" data-track-name=\"ImageFullscreen\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"1170\" itemprop=\"image\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"(min-width: 980px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=40&s=38171b5210c29edf92548e140caf128dc87144d6\" srcset=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=40&s=38171b5210c29edf92548e140caf128dc87144d6 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=80&s=c4d32ae9b0cbe6ee821b900f7cd9735e46ada8e1 80w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=100&s=1fac5f0ff24d1c2dfdefcf6ae98fac0d7313e53a 100w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=200&s=14c1dc3d3e3f16eeab079d32729d1cf28b1ef859 200w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=240&s=2ed439ca0bf2359308bc0e7dd68a0742cbfc9aa3 240w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=480&s=8cbf5bbf1d9021058197c164238b4a33243be41d 480w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=580&s=c9d9b0861297248f3a59c2bc188999494fc6fa40 580w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=720&s=d35bf401e5e2642c590297506b41f922e8a91b40 720w\" style=\"object-position:48.63169897377423% 20.17094017094017%\" width=\"877\"><figcaption class=\"text-sans-s _caption_qp4xg_10 layout-component\">Foto: Finnish Presidential Office via Instagram</figcaption></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">De var et <abbr class=\"_explanation_o9xde_140\" tabindex=\"0\" title=\"Stubb's medspillere er, ifĂžlge boken, senator Lindsey Graham, golflegenden Gary Player, Fox-anker Trey Gowdy og president Donald Trump.\">team pĂ„ fem<span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151\" role=\"presentation\"><span class=\"text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156\">team pĂ„ fem</span>Stubb's medspillere er, ifĂžlge boken, senator Lindsey Graham, golflegenden Gary Player, Fox-anker Trey Gowdy og president Donald Trump.</span></abbr> og spilte «best ball», hvor de to beste scorene pĂ„ hvert hull talte. De vekslet mellom Ă„ score par og birdies. I en turnering med rundt 30 team, vant laget med de to presidentene. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Hva fikk du og Finland igjen for det?</strong></em></p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_9\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â I ettertid tekster vi, vi ringes og vi diskuterer. Jeg tror det har vĂŠrt nyttig ved at vi etterpĂ„ har solgt 11 isbrytere til USA. Det er lett Ă„ glemme at diplomati egentlig har to ben. Det ene er det mellomstatlige forholdet, interessebasert ut fra makt, kultur og historie. Det andre er personlig. Som Finlands president er det min jobb Ă„ ha et bra forhold til USAs president. Om jeg lanserer 10 ideer og han tar en av dem, da har jeg lyktes.</p><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Sier fra </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â PĂ„ grunn av ditt golfspill, er Finland pĂ„ et bedre sted enn andre europeiske land?</strong></em></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Vi har et omfattende forsvarssamarbeid med USA, basert pĂ„ gjensidig interesse. Andre saker vurderer vi ulikt: Vi tror pĂ„ EU, pĂ„ en liberal verdensorden, og pĂ„ klimatrusselen. Jeg sier fra om at vi er uenig om straffetoll. Samtidig er det i USAs interesse Ă„ trene soldater i Arktis, Ă„ samarbeide om teknologi fordi store deler av deres mobile nettverk er levert av Nokia, og Ă„ samarbeide om sjeldne mineraler. </p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r206\" 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renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"ZMhTBJ\"><figure class=\"_figure_qp4xg_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"_image_qp4xg_65 layout-component layout-normal\" data-fullscreen-sizes=\"(min-width: 1000px) 2000px, 2000vw\" data-track-element-type=\"Article image fullscreen\" data-track-name=\"ImageFullscreen\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"5482\" itemprop=\"image\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"(min-width: 980px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=40&s=e0f6ceffc50c002f84229490ebeb7cb9b8d5ab47\" srcset=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=40&s=e0f6ceffc50c002f84229490ebeb7cb9b8d5ab47 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=80&s=08d0331f1f3fbf77935b7ef83869c5f49e089624 80w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=100&s=8f217d18293cab647e07b8b4ab5415c757aa6be9 100w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=200&s=0af674794e575a7802d7b57745dcfca82eb27267 200w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=240&s=efab5bbffefbdb7d36830679e617d7c6da820ac8 240w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=480&s=7230a66103ca00495219a00db02e172c91c91afd 480w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=580&s=eeddc6e325d98bab35d69bb0194a574dc81dba91 580w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=720&s=47486cde660369d2212226da05173954bbc0c935 720w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=1080&s=d5cdc70fdc61a86e2a59449d7cdb46ff2667af42 1080w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=1440&s=0607397fe1c9c98ff643de77a48be60ea1fdbee0 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=2160&s=88f022225cb160864e26509aa7d206a803977497 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"7309\"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Er det rom for kritikk?</strong></em></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Jeg er helt Ă„pen om at vi har et annet syn enn Trump i mange saker, som EU og klima. Derfor fungerer det. Jeg sender de samme analysene til Trump: Vi er hjertelig uenig med deg om straffetoll, for eksempel. USAs sikkerhetspolitikk er ogsĂ„ endret. Det er ikke lenger en-til-en med oss i Europa.</p><div class=\"responsive\"><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r209\" 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d832bfbc-4243-410b-b6d6-566dc7f023b7?format=auto&w=1440&s=88de16749f7789a3afc44d893d46b6f2894ef4fb 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d832bfbc-4243-410b-b6d6-566dc7f023b7?format=auto&w=2160&s=ba9a541817444331afe66c9177a721742ef54de9 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"4496\"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island></div><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Trump-hviskeren </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">I et VG-intervju i 2024 fortalte Stubbs forgjenger Sauli Niinistö <a class=\"_link_o9xde_39\" data-track-element-type=\"Link\" data-track-id=\"link:O84KqO\" href=\"/nyheter/i/O84KqO/finlands-president-om-putin-samtalene-vi-burde-ha-forstaatt\">om sine samtaler med Vladimir Putin</a>, og hvordan han ble lĂžyet for i tiden fĂžr Putin beordret invasjonen i Ukraina. </p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_10\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">Niinistö ble kalt Putin-hviskeren. Stubb omtales nĂ„ som Trump-hviskeren.</strong></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Hva slags kontakt har du med Putin?</strong></em></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Vi har ikke snakket sammen siden jeg ble president for to Ă„r siden. Finske myndigheter har kontakt pĂ„ lavere nivĂ„er med Russland om grensespĂžrsmĂ„l og annet praktisk. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Vil du kunne ha tillit til Putin etter Ukraina-krigen?</strong></em></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â VĂ„r 1340 kilometer grense mot Russland, den gĂ„r ikke over. Ă
bygge tillit med Russland igjen kan ta flere tiĂ„r. Da er muligens dagens russiske ledere erstattet, og vi kan ikke vite hvordan de vil forholde seg til Finland.</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Mange spĂ„r en massiv russisk opprustning mot Nato nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen tar slutt?</strong></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â I vĂ„r analyse er det selvsagt at vi vil ha flere russiske soldater nĂŠrt vĂ„re grenser nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen er over. Det er ikke noe nytt. Men Russland vet hvor sterkt vĂ„rt forsvar er. 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Author: Alf Bjarne Johnsen
Published: 2026-02-24 05:03:52
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â Ukraina er pĂ„ vei til Ă„ vinne krigen mot Russland, sier Finlands president Alexander Stubb.
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Iskald vind sniker seg rundt gatehjĂžrnene i Helsingfors. Fjorden er like frosset som Finlands forhold til Russland.
Isbrytere jobber dag og natt for Ä holde rÄker Äpne for skipstrafikken som forbinder hovedstaden med omverdenen.
Innerst i havnen ligger presidentpalasset. Der inne sitter Alexander Stubb (57) og forteller VG om hvordan isen kan brytes, og en ny verdensorden kan utformes.
Og hvorfor han mener at Russland er i ferd med Ă„ tape krigen i Ukraina.
Mistet Karelen
Stubbs farmor og farfar var fÞdt i Karelen, som ble sovjetisk territorium i 1944 etter utmattende krigsÄr. Finland mÄtte ogsÄ betale enorme belÞp i krigserstatning til Moskva, og ble tvunget til et rettsoppgjÞr.
Finlands tidligere president Risto Ryti ble dĂžmt til 10 Ă„rs fengsel.
â Vi fikk beholde vĂ„r selvstendighet, men vi tapte vĂ„r suverenitet, sier Stubb.
â Sovjetunionen dikterte vilkĂ„rene: I starten fikk vi ikke vĂŠre med i Nordisk rĂ„d, i FN eller i EFTA.
Fire Ă„r med krig
Tirsdag 24. februar er det fire Är siden russiske stridsvogner rullet mot Kyiv. Etter krigens fÞrste fase har Russland i liten grad lyktes med Ä erobre mer av Ukrainas landareal. De siste mÄnedene har Putin gjort alt han kan for Ä fryse ut befolkningen.
â Kan det vĂŠre en lĂžsning for Ukraina, Ă„ gi bort areal i bytte med fred slik Finland mĂ„tte i 1944?
â Ut fra vĂ„r historie, forstĂ„r finnene det som holder pĂ„ Ă„ skje i Ukraina. Men Ukraina er i en langt bedre situasjon en Finland var i, forklarer han.
â Ukraina har ikke tapt denne krigen, slĂ„r Stubb fast.
â Det er Russland som har tapt, bĂ„de militĂŠrt, strategisk og Ăžkonomisk. Selv om Russland kontrollerer 20 prosent av Ukrainas areal, har de bare klart Ă„ ta ytterligere en prosent de to siste Ă„rene. 65.000 russiske soldater dĂžde bare i desember og januar. Da forstĂ„r du at Russland ikke kan vinne denne krigen. Ukraina vil ogsĂ„ fĂ„ sikkerhetsgarantier fra USA og Europa. Det hadde ikke Finland i 1944. Vi sto helt alene, sier den finske presidenten.
FN-reformer
Vi snakket ogsÄ med den finske presidenten om golf-runden som ga en unik tilgang til USAs president.
Han skal i tillegg fortelle mer om det nĂŠre vennskapet med Jonas Gahr StĂžre.
Men fÞrst: Alexander Stubb mener at FN mÄ reformeres. Ett av forslagene er at stormaktene mÄ oppgi sin vetorett i FNs sikkerhetsrÄd, og landene i sÞr mÄ fÄ mer Ä si.
â Jeg kaller det for verdibasert realisme, sier Stubb.
Det har han skrevet en bok om. «En ny verdensorden» er nÄ ute pÄ norsk.
Optimist av natur
â VĂ„re nordiske verdier som frihet, sikkerhet, menneskerettigheter og demokrati mĂ„ ligge fast. Men for Ă„ lĂžse verdens stĂžrste problemer som handler om klima, konflikter, energi og teknologi, da mĂ„ du samarbeide med land som ikke har de samme verdiene, fortsetter han.
â Tror du virkelig at de fem faste medlemmene av SikkerhetsrĂ„det vil gi opp sin vetorett?
â Det vet jeg ikke. Men om man er optimist av natur, sĂ„ mĂ„ man i det minste forsĂžke Ă„ tenke nytt, sier Stubb.
Maktens triangel
I boken beskriver Stubb «maktens triangel»: Tre ideologier som han kaller det globale vest, det globale sÞr og det globale Þst. Samspillet mellom dem vil pÄvirke den nye verdensordenen.
â Vi ser at verden er i endring, men vi vet ennĂ„ ikke hvor den er pĂ„ vei. I boken argumenterer jeg for at det vil gĂ„ noen Ă„r, kanskje til 2030, fĂžr en ny verdensorden kommer pĂ„ plass. Akkurat nĂ„ er vi i en periode hvor mektige aktĂžrer prĂžver Ă„ posisjonere seg der det finnes maktvakuum. Kina gjĂžr det, og Trumps nye fredsforum har ambisjoner om Ă„ gjĂžre det, sier han.
Kampen stÄr nÄ mellom to motstridende ideologier, ifÞlge Stubb: «Jalta» eller «Helsingfors».
Fra krise til lĂžsning
Stubb argumenterer for at krisene i verden har tĂžmret de europeiske landene mye tettere sammen. Han beskriver EU-samarbeidet i tre typiske faser:
â FĂžrst er det krise, sĂ„ kaos â men sĂ„ finner vi en lĂžsning alle kan leve med, forklarer han.
Han ramser opp:
Brexit dro de europeiske landene tettere sammen. SÄ kom covid, krigen i Ukraina, og energikrisen som landene samarbeidet om Ä lÞse. Legg til sikkerhetstrusselen fra Russland, og «et visst trykk fra USA», som Stubb beskriver.
Den han snakker mest med
Stubbs nĂŠrmeste samtalepartner i Europa er imidlertid ikke medlem i EU:
â Skal jeg trekke fram den europeiske lederen som jeg har mest kommunikasjon med, sĂ„ er det Jonas Gahr StĂžre, sier han.
StÞre har ogsÄ bekreftet den tette kontakten med president Stubb. De snakker sammen eller utveksler SMS-er omtrent hver eneste dag.
â Hvordan kan Norge vĂŠre pĂ„ innsiden av de store beslutningene i Europa uten Ă„ vĂŠre medlem i EU?
â EU-medlemskapet er en beslutning Norge selv mĂ„ ta, selv om jeg personlig skulle Ăžnske at Storbritannia Island og Norge var med. Men som Nato-medlem er Norge en stor aktĂžr i saker om sikkerhet, og spesielt om Arktis.
â Hva har Norge Ă„ legge pĂ„ bordet, i tillegg til olje og gass, for Ă„ bli hĂžrt?
â Mye handler om personlighet. Jonas er svĂŠrt aktiv i utenriks- og sikkerhetspolitikken. Den interessen har vi begge som tidligere utenriksministre. Norge bidrar med Ăžkt sikkerhet for oss som nytt medlem i Nato. NĂ„ samarbeider Finland, Sverige og Norge mye tettere om forsvar.
SMS til Trump
SĂžndag 18. januar sendte StĂžre og Stubb en felles tekstmelding til Donald Trump. De ramset opp uenighet om GrĂžnland, Gaza, Ukraina og straffetoll, og ba om et snarlig mĂžte.
27 minutter senere fikk StÞre svar fra Trump, som den amerikanske presidenten publiserte i sosiale medier: Ettersom Norge ikke ga Trump Nobels fredspris, var Trump ikke lengre forpliktet til Ä tenke fred alltid. Trump gjentok ogsÄ kravet om Ä overgi GrÞnland til USA.
â Jeg fikk den nĂžyaktig samme meldingen. Det sto «Dear Jonas» pĂ„ min ogsĂ„, bekrefter Stubb.
â Vi melder ofte med Trump, og vi gjĂžr det sammen. Vi sender felles meldinger til andre europeiske ledere, til Ukrainas president Zelenskyj, forteller han.
Alexander Stubb har ytterligere en relasjon til Donald Trump som StĂžre ikke har.
Golf-mĂžtet
I sin ungdom var Stubb pÄ Finlands ungdomslandslag i golf. 29. mars i fjor gikk Stubb og Trump ut pÄ Trump International Golf Club i Florida.
â Jeg fikk syv timer pĂ„ tomannshĂ„nd med USAs president, mer enn alle mine forgjengere til sammen. Jeg skal ikke overvurdere min relasjon med presidenten, men jeg mener det var vel anvendt tid.
De var et team pÄ fem og spilte «best ball», hvor de to beste scorene pÄ hvert hull talte. De vekslet mellom Ä score par og birdies. I en turnering med rundt 30 team, vant laget med de to presidentene.
â Hva fikk du og Finland igjen for det?
â I ettertid tekster vi, vi ringes og vi diskuterer. Jeg tror det har vĂŠrt nyttig ved at vi etterpĂ„ har solgt 11 isbrytere til USA. Det er lett Ă„ glemme at diplomati egentlig har to ben. Det ene er det mellomstatlige forholdet, interessebasert ut fra makt, kultur og historie. Det andre er personlig. Som Finlands president er det min jobb Ă„ ha et bra forhold til USAs president. Om jeg lanserer 10 ideer og han tar en av dem, da har jeg lyktes.
Sier fra
â PĂ„ grunn av ditt golfspill, er Finland pĂ„ et bedre sted enn andre europeiske land?
â Vi har et omfattende forsvarssamarbeid med USA, basert pĂ„ gjensidig interesse. Andre saker vurderer vi ulikt: Vi tror pĂ„ EU, pĂ„ en liberal verdensorden, og pĂ„ klimatrusselen. Jeg sier fra om at vi er uenig om straffetoll. Samtidig er det i USAs interesse Ă„ trene soldater i Arktis, Ă„ samarbeide om teknologi fordi store deler av deres mobile nettverk er levert av Nokia, og Ă„ samarbeide om sjeldne mineraler.
â Er det rom for kritikk?
â Jeg er helt Ă„pen om at vi har et annet syn enn Trump i mange saker, som EU og klima. Derfor fungerer det. Jeg sender de samme analysene til Trump: Vi er hjertelig uenig med deg om straffetoll, for eksempel. USAs sikkerhetspolitikk er ogsĂ„ endret. Det er ikke lenger en-til-en med oss i Europa.
Trump-hviskeren
I et VG-intervju i 2024 fortalte Stubbs forgjenger Sauli Niinistö om sine samtaler med Vladimir Putin, og hvordan han ble lÞyet for i tiden fÞr Putin beordret invasjonen i Ukraina.
Niinistö ble kalt Putin-hviskeren. Stubb omtales nÄ som Trump-hviskeren.
â Hva slags kontakt har du med Putin?
â Vi har ikke snakket sammen siden jeg ble president for to Ă„r siden. Finske myndigheter har kontakt pĂ„ lavere nivĂ„er med Russland om grensespĂžrsmĂ„l og annet praktisk.
â Vil du kunne ha tillit til Putin etter Ukraina-krigen?
â VĂ„r 1340 kilometer grense mot Russland, den gĂ„r ikke over. Ă bygge tillit med Russland igjen kan ta flere tiĂ„r. Da er muligens dagens russiske ledere erstattet, og vi kan ikke vite hvordan de vil forholde seg til Finland.
â Mange spĂ„r en massiv russisk opprustning mot Nato nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen tar slutt?
â I vĂ„r analyse er det selvsagt at vi vil ha flere russiske soldater nĂŠrt vĂ„re grenser nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen er over. Det er ikke noe nytt. Men Russland vet hvor sterkt vĂ„rt forsvar er. Russland vet at Finland er Nato-medlem, svarer han.
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"content" : "Iskald vind sniker seg rundt gatehjĂžrnene i Helsingfors. Fjorden er like frosset som Finlands forhold til Russland.\n\nIsbrytere jobber dag og natt for Ă„ holde rĂ„ker Ă„pne for skipstrafikken som forbinder hovedstaden med omverdenen.\n\nInnerst i havnen ligger presidentpalasset. Der inne sitter [Alexander Stubb](/tag/alexander-stubb?utm_source=vg-article&utm_medium=auto-tagger&utm_campaign=0pGalM) \\(57\\) og forteller VG om hvordan isen kan brytes, og en ny verdensorden kan utformes.\n\nOg hvorfor han mener at Russland er i ferd med Ă„ tape krigen i Ukraina.\n\n## Mistet Karelen\n\nStubbs farmor og farfar var fĂždt i Karelen, som ble sovjetisk territorium i 1944 etter utmattende krigsĂ„r. Finland mĂ„tte ogsĂ„ betale enorme belĂžp i krigserstatning til Moskva, og ble tvunget til et rettsoppgjĂžr.\n\nFinlands tidligere president Risto Ryti ble dĂžmt til 10 Ă„rs fengsel.\n\n**â Vi fikk beholde vĂ„r selvstendighet, men vi tapte vĂ„r suverenitet, sier Stubb.**\n\nâ Sovjetunionen dikterte vilkĂ„rene: I starten fikk vi ikke vĂŠre med i Nordisk rĂ„d, i FN eller i EFTA.\n\n## Fire Ă„r med krig\n\nTirsdag 24. februar er det fire Ă„r siden russiske stridsvogner rullet mot Kyiv. Etter krigens fĂžrste fase har Russland i liten grad lyktes med Ă„ erobre mer av Ukrainas landareal. De siste mĂ„nedene har Putin gjort alt han kan for Ă„ fryse ut befolkningen.\n\n*â Kan det vĂŠre en lĂžsning for Ukraina, Ă„ gi bort areal i bytte med fred slik Finland mĂ„tte i 1944?*\n\nâ Ut fra vĂ„r historie, forstĂ„r finnene det som holder pĂ„ Ă„ skje i Ukraina. Men Ukraina er i en langt bedre situasjon en Finland var i, forklarer han.\n\n**â Ukraina har ikke tapt denne krigen, slĂ„r Stubb fast.**\n\nâ Det er Russland som har tapt, bĂ„de militĂŠrt, strategisk og Ăžkonomisk. Selv om Russland kontrollerer 20 prosent av Ukrainas areal, har de bare klart Ă„ ta ytterligere en prosent de to siste Ă„rene. 65.000 russiske soldater dĂžde bare i desember og januar. Da forstĂ„r du at Russland ikke kan vinne denne krigen. Ukraina vil ogsĂ„ fĂ„ sikkerhetsgarantier fra USA og Europa. Det hadde ikke Finland i 1944. Vi sto helt alene, sier den finske presidenten.\n\n## FN\\-reformer\n\n**Vi snakket ogsĂ„ med den finske presidenten om golf\\-runden som ga en unik tilgang til USAs president.**\n\n**Han skal i tillegg fortelle mer om det nĂŠre vennskapet med Jonas Gahr StĂžre.**\n\nMen fĂžrst: Alexander Stubb mener at FN mĂ„ reformeres. Ett av forslagene er at stormaktene mĂ„ oppgi sin vetorett i FNs sikkerhetsrĂ„d, og landene i sĂžr mĂ„ fĂ„ mer Ă„ si.\n\nâ Jeg kaller det for verdibasert realisme, sier Stubb.\n\nDet har han skrevet en bok om. «En ny verdensorden» er nĂ„ ute pĂ„ norsk.\n\n## Optimist av natur\n\nâ VĂ„re nordiske verdier som frihet, sikkerhet, menneskerettigheter og demokrati mĂ„ ligge fast. Men for Ă„ lĂžse verdens stĂžrste problemer som handler om klima, konflikter, energi og teknologi, da mĂ„ du samarbeide med land som ikke har de samme verdiene, fortsetter han.\n\n*â Tror du virkelig at de fem faste medlemmene av SikkerhetsrĂ„det vil gi opp sin vetorett?*\n\nâ Det vet jeg ikke. Men om man er optimist av natur, sĂ„ mĂ„ man i det minste forsĂžke Ă„ tenke nytt, sier Stubb.\n\n## Maktens triangel\n\nI boken beskriver Stubb «maktens triangel»: Tre ideologier som han kaller det globale vest, det globale sĂžr og det globale Ăžst. Samspillet mellom dem vil pĂ„virke den nye verdensordenen.\n\nâ Vi ser at verden er i endring, men vi vet ennĂ„ ikke hvor den er pĂ„ vei. I boken argumenterer jeg for at det vil gĂ„ noen Ă„r, kanskje til 2030, fĂžr en ny verdensorden kommer pĂ„ plass. Akkurat nĂ„ er vi i en periode hvor mektige aktĂžrer prĂžver Ă„ posisjonere seg der det finnes maktvakuum. Kina gjĂžr det, og Trumps nye fredsforum har ambisjoner om Ă„ gjĂžre det, sier han.\n\nKampen stĂ„r nĂ„ mellom to motstridende ideologier, ifĂžlge Stubb: «Jalta» eller «Helsingfors».\n\n## Fra krise til lĂžsning\n\nStubb argumenterer for at krisene i verden har tĂžmret de europeiske landene mye tettere sammen. Han beskriver EU\\-samarbeidet i tre typiske faser:\n\nâ FĂžrst er det krise, sĂ„ kaos â men sĂ„ finner vi en lĂžsning alle kan leve med, forklarer han.\n\nHan ramser opp:\n\n[Brexit ](/nyheter/i/aAMbd/slik-splitter-brexit-storbritannia)dro de europeiske landene tettere sammen. SĂ„ kom covid, krigen i Ukraina, og energikrisen som landene samarbeidet om Ă„ lĂžse. Legg til sikkerhetstrusselen fra Russland, og «et visst trykk fra USA», som Stubb beskriver.\n\n## Den han snakker mest med\n\n**Stubbs nĂŠrmeste samtalepartner i Europa er imidlertid ikke medlem i EU:**\n\nâ Skal jeg trekke fram den europeiske lederen som jeg har mest kommunikasjon med, sĂ„ er det Jonas Gahr StĂžre, sier han.\n\nStĂžre har ogsĂ„ bekreftet den tette kontakten med president Stubb. De snakker sammen eller utveksler SMS\\-er omtrent hver eneste dag.\n\n*â Hvordan kan Norge vĂŠre pĂ„ innsiden av de store beslutningene i Europa uten Ă„ vĂŠre medlem i EU?*\n\nâ EU\\-medlemskapet er en beslutning Norge selv mĂ„ ta, selv om jeg personlig skulle Ăžnske at Storbritannia Island og Norge var med. Men som Nato\\-medlem er Norge en stor aktĂžr i saker om sikkerhet, og spesielt om Arktis.\n\n*â Hva har Norge Ă„ legge pĂ„ bordet, i tillegg til olje og gass, for Ă„ bli hĂžrt?*\n\nâ Mye handler om personlighet. Jonas er svĂŠrt aktiv i utenriks\\- og sikkerhetspolitikken. Den interessen har vi begge som tidligere utenriksministre. Norge bidrar med Ăžkt sikkerhet for oss som nytt medlem i Nato. NĂ„ samarbeider Finland, Sverige og Norge mye tettere om forsvar.\n\n## SMS til Trump\n\nSĂžndag 18. januar sendte StĂžre og Stubb en felles tekstmelding til Donald Trump. De ramset opp uenighet om GrĂžnland, Gaza, Ukraina og straffetoll, og ba om et snarlig mĂžte.\n\n[27 minutter senere fikk StĂžre svar](/nyheter/i/q6AdB0/trump-i-melding-til-stoere-foeler-ikke-lenger-noen-forpliktelse) fra Trump, som den amerikanske presidenten publiserte i sosiale medier: Ettersom Norge ikke ga Trump Nobels fredspris, var Trump ikke lengre forpliktet til Ă„ tenke fred alltid. Trump gjentok ogsĂ„ kravet om Ă„ overgi GrĂžnland til USA.\n\nâ Jeg fikk den nĂžyaktig samme meldingen. Det sto «Dear Jonas» pĂ„ min ogsĂ„, bekrefter Stubb.\n\nâ Vi melder ofte med Trump, og vi gjĂžr det sammen. Vi sender felles meldinger til andre europeiske ledere, til Ukrainas president Zelenskyj, forteller han.\n\nAlexander Stubb har ytterligere en relasjon til Donald Trump som StĂžre ikke har.\n\n## Golf\\-mĂžtet\n\nI sin ungdom var Stubb pĂ„ Finlands ungdomslandslag i golf. 29. mars i fjor gikk Stubb og Trump ut pĂ„ Trump International Golf Club i Florida.\n\nâ Jeg fikk syv timer pĂ„ tomannshĂ„nd med USAs president, mer enn alle mine forgjengere til sammen. Jeg skal ikke overvurdere min relasjon med presidenten, men jeg mener det var vel anvendt tid.\n\nDe var et team pĂ„ fem og spilte «best ball», hvor de to beste scorene pĂ„ hvert hull talte. De vekslet mellom Ă„ score par og birdies. I en turnering med rundt 30 team, vant laget med de to presidentene.\n\n*â Hva fikk du og Finland igjen for det?*\n\nâ I ettertid tekster vi, vi ringes og vi diskuterer. Jeg tror det har vĂŠrt nyttig ved at vi etterpĂ„ har solgt 11 isbrytere til USA. Det er lett Ă„ glemme at diplomati egentlig har to ben. Det ene er det mellomstatlige forholdet, interessebasert ut fra makt, kultur og historie. Det andre er personlig. Som Finlands president er det min jobb Ă„ ha et bra forhold til USAs president. Om jeg lanserer 10 ideer og han tar en av dem, da har jeg lyktes.\n\n## Sier fra\n\n*â PĂ„ grunn av ditt golfspill, er Finland pĂ„ et bedre sted enn andre europeiske land?*\n\nâ Vi har et omfattende forsvarssamarbeid med USA, basert pĂ„ gjensidig interesse. Andre saker vurderer vi ulikt: Vi tror pĂ„ EU, pĂ„ en liberal verdensorden, og pĂ„ klimatrusselen. Jeg sier fra om at vi er uenig om straffetoll. Samtidig er det i USAs interesse Ă„ trene soldater i Arktis, Ă„ samarbeide om teknologi fordi store deler av deres mobile nettverk er levert av Nokia, og Ă„ samarbeide om sjeldne mineraler.\n\n*â Er det rom for kritikk?*\n\nâ Jeg er helt Ă„pen om at vi har et annet syn enn Trump i mange saker, som EU og klima. Derfor fungerer det. Jeg sender de samme analysene til Trump: Vi er hjertelig uenig med deg om straffetoll, for eksempel. USAs sikkerhetspolitikk er ogsĂ„ endret. Det er ikke lenger en\\-til\\-en med oss i Europa.\n\n## Trump\\-hviskeren\n\nI et VG\\-intervju i 2024 fortalte Stubbs forgjenger Sauli Niinistö [om sine samtaler med Vladimir Putin](/nyheter/i/O84KqO/finlands-president-om-putin-samtalene-vi-burde-ha-forstaatt), og hvordan han ble lĂžyet for i tiden fĂžr Putin beordret invasjonen i Ukraina.\n\n**Niinistö ble kalt Putin\\-hviskeren. Stubb omtales nĂ„ som Trump\\-hviskeren.**\n\n*â Hva slags kontakt har du med Putin?*\n\nâ Vi har ikke snakket sammen siden jeg ble president for to Ă„r siden. Finske myndigheter har kontakt pĂ„ lavere nivĂ„er med Russland om grensespĂžrsmĂ„l og annet praktisk.\n\n*â Vil du kunne ha tillit til Putin etter Ukraina\\-krigen?*\n\nâ VĂ„r 1340 kilometer grense mot Russland, den gĂ„r ikke over. Ă
bygge tillit med Russland igjen kan ta flere tiĂ„r. Da er muligens dagens russiske ledere erstattet, og vi kan ikke vite hvordan de vil forholde seg til Finland.\n\n**â Mange spĂ„r en massiv russisk opprustning mot Nato nĂ„r Ukraina\\-krigen tar slutt?**\n\nâ I vĂ„r analyse er det selvsagt at vi vil ha flere russiske soldater nĂŠrt vĂ„re grenser nĂ„r Ukraina\\-krigen er over. Det er ikke noe nytt. Men Russland vet hvor sterkt vĂ„rt forsvar er. Russland vet at Finland er Nato\\-medlem, svarer han.",
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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4e5c862e-1561-4d9d-9af4-863b350df24e?format=auto&w=1440&s=93278d552a644e0bd03535a710f58dae00d680b4 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4e5c862e-1561-4d9d-9af4-863b350df24e?format=auto&w=2160&s=2d87eea7df44d35ebdffa1a8733792df351195c0 2160w" style="object-position:0% 0%" width="7065"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island></div><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Mistet Karelen </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Stubbs farmor og farfar var fĂždt i <abbr class="_explanation_o9xde_140" tabindex="0" title="Et geografisk omrĂ„de som strekker seg fra de mest Ăžstlige og sĂžrĂžstlige delene av Finland mot Russland.">Karelen<span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151" role="presentation"><span class="text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156">Karelen</span>Et geografisk omrĂ„de som strekker seg fra de mest Ăžstlige og sĂžrĂžstlige delene av Finland mot Russland.</span></abbr>, som ble sovjetisk territorium i 1944 etter utmattende krigsĂ„r. Finland mĂ„tte ogsĂ„ betale enorme belĂžp i krigserstatning til Moskva, og ble tvunget til et rettsoppgjĂžr. </p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_2"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Finlands tidligere president Risto Ryti ble dĂžmt til 10 Ă„rs fengsel. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Vi fikk beholde vĂ„r selvstendighet, men vi tapte vĂ„r suverenitet, sier Stubb.</strong></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Sovjetunionen dikterte vilkĂ„rene: I starten fikk vi ikke vĂŠre med i Nordisk rĂ„d, i FN eller i EFTA.</p><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Fire Ă„r med krig </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Tirsdag 24. februar er det fire Ă„r siden russiske stridsvogner rullet mot Kyiv. Etter krigens fĂžrste fase har Russland i liten grad lyktes med Ă„ erobre mer av Ukrainas landareal. De siste mĂ„nedene har Putin gjort alt han kan for Ă„ fryse ut befolkningen. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"> <em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Kan det vĂŠre en lĂžsning for Ukraina, Ă„ gi bort areal i bytte med fred slik Finland mĂ„tte i 1944?</strong></em></p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_3"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Ut fra vĂ„r historie, forstĂ„r finnene det som holder pĂ„ Ă„ skje i Ukraina. Men Ukraina er i en langt bedre situasjon en Finland var i, forklarer han.</p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Ukraina har ikke tapt denne krigen, slĂ„r Stubb fast.</strong></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Det er Russland som har tapt, bĂ„de militĂŠrt, strategisk og Ăžkonomisk. Selv om Russland kontrollerer 20 prosent av Ukrainas areal, har de bare klart Ă„ ta ytterligere en prosent de to siste Ă„rene. 65.000 russiske soldater dĂžde bare i desember og januar. Da forstĂ„r du at Russland ikke kan vinne denne krigen. Ukraina vil ogsĂ„ fĂ„ sikkerhetsgarantier fra USA og Europa. Det hadde ikke Finland i 1944. Vi sto helt alene, sier den finske presidenten.</p><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">FN-reformer </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">Vi snakket ogsĂ„ med den finske presidenten om <a class="_link_o9xde_39" data-track-element-type="Link" data-track-id="link:dR89Oz" href="/nyheter/i/dR89Oz/president-stubb-vi-beveger-oss-mer-mot-mistillitssiden">golf-runden som ga en unik tilgang til USAs president. </a></strong></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">Han skal i tillegg fortelle mer om <a class="_link_o9xde_39" data-track-element-type="Link" data-track-id="link:kw63BX" href="/nyheter/i/kw63BX/stoere-paa-teambuilding-i-bodoe-med-kristersson-og-stubb">det nĂŠre vennskapet med Jonas Gahr StĂžre. </a></strong></p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_4"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Men fĂžrst: Alexander Stubb mener at FN mĂ„ reformeres. Ett av forslagene er at stormaktene mĂ„ oppgi sin vetorett i FNs sikkerhetsrĂ„d, og landene i sĂžr mĂ„ fĂ„ mer Ă„ si. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Jeg kaller det for verdibasert realisme, sier Stubb.</p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Det har han skrevet en bok om. «En ny verdensorden» er nĂ„ ute pĂ„ norsk.</p><astro-island await-children client="visible" component-export="Image" component-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js" opts="{"name":"Image","value":true}" prefix="r153" 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renderer-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js" ssr uid="ZzmulH"><figure class="_figure_qp4xg_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded"><img alt="" class="_image_qp4xg_65 layout-component layout-normal" data-fullscreen-sizes="(min-width: 1000px) 2000px, 2000vw" data-track-element-type="Article image fullscreen" data-track-name="ImageFullscreen" decoding="async" height="5477" itemprop="image" loading="lazy" sizes="(min-width: 980px) 980px, 100vw" src="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=40&s=b07f83c9d05163c1484fad72def62e8dfb0f9eca" srcset="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=40&s=b07f83c9d05163c1484fad72def62e8dfb0f9eca 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=80&s=249a33cc7f25b3245904ea34fd6edb8c77b41aa0 80w, 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=1440&s=7594b1aafebeaf920514d1a5955993ca39c898ac 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=2160&s=699062d03b7bd26222c318bd1fac14902acc60c8 2160w" style="object-position:0% 0%" width="7303"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Optimist av natur </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â VĂ„re nordiske verdier som frihet, sikkerhet, menneskerettigheter og demokrati mĂ„ ligge fast. Men for Ă„ lĂžse verdens stĂžrste problemer som handler om klima, konflikter, energi og teknologi, da mĂ„ du samarbeide med land som ikke har de samme verdiene, fortsetter han.</p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_5"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Tror du virkelig at de fem faste medlemmene av SikkerhetsrĂ„det vil gi opp sin vetorett? </strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Det vet jeg ikke. Men om man er optimist av natur, sĂ„ mĂ„ man i det minste forsĂžke Ă„ tenke nytt, sier Stubb.</p><astro-island await-children client="visible" component-export="FactBox" component-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/FactBox.3qMhHu30.js" opts="{"name":"FactBox","value":true}" prefix="r159" props="{"component":[0,{"title":[0,{"value":[0,"Dette er Alexander Stubb"]}],"paragraphs":[1,[[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Cai-Göran Alexander Stubb (fĂždt 1. april 1968) har vĂŠrt Finlands president siden 1. mars 2024. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Han vokste opp i Helsingfors i et tosprĂ„klig hjem: moren var finsksprĂ„klig mens faren snakket svensk og var toppsjef i Finlands ishockeyforbund og talentspeider for den amerikanske ishockeyligaen NHL. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Alexander Stubb har studert ved universiteter i USA, Frankrike, Belgia og Storbritannia, og har en doktorgrad i statsvitenskap fra London School of Economics. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Etter en periode som folkevalgt i EU-parlamentet for Samlingspartiet, som er HĂžyres finske sĂžsterparti, ble Stubb utnevnt til utenriksminister i Finland i 2008. Han fortsatte i ulike finske koalisjonsregjeringer som europaminister, statsminister og finansminister fram til 2016. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"I 2017 forlot han Finland for Ă„ bli visepresident i den europeiske investeringsbanken. Fra 2020 og fram til han startet president-kampanjen hĂžsten 2023, var han professor i statsvitenskap ved Europa-universitetet i Firenze. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Stubb vant europamesterskapet i triatlon i sin aldersklasse i 2022. I fjor sommer tok han annenplassen i et triatlon-stevne i Finland, som besto av 750 meter svĂžmming, 20 kilometer sykling og 5 kilometer lĂžping."],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}]]],"type":[0,"fact"]}],"type":[0,"feature"]}" renderer-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js" ssr uid="Zsweyi"><div class="_factbox_16v91_30 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded"><section aria-expanded="false" aria-label="Utvid" class="_box_1mfx9_1 font-vg-sans layout-component layout-normal _box_16v91_39" id="«r159R0»" role="region" style="max-height:var(--height)"><h2 class="_title_16v91_25 title-serif-s">Dette er Alexander Stubb</h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded">Cai-Göran Alexander Stubb (fĂždt 1. april 1968) har vĂŠrt Finlands president siden 1. mars 2024. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded">Han vokste opp i Helsingfors i et tosprĂ„klig hjem: moren var finsksprĂ„klig mens faren snakket svensk og var toppsjef i Finlands ishockeyforbund og talentspeider for den amerikanske ishockeyligaen NHL. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded">Alexander Stubb har studert ved universiteter i USA, Frankrike, Belgia og Storbritannia, og har en doktorgrad i statsvitenskap fra London School of Economics. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded">Etter en periode som folkevalgt i EU-parlamentet for Samlingspartiet, som er HĂžyres finske sĂžsterparti, ble Stubb utnevnt til utenriksminister i Finland i 2008. Han fortsatte i ulike finske koalisjonsregjeringer som europaminister, statsminister og finansminister fram til 2016. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded">I 2017 forlot han Finland for Ă„ bli visepresident i den europeiske investeringsbanken. Fra 2020 og fram til han startet president-kampanjen hĂžsten 2023, var han professor i statsvitenskap ved Europa-universitetet i Firenze. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded">Stubb vant europamesterskapet i triatlon i sin aldersklasse i 2022. I fjor sommer tok han annenplassen i et triatlon-stevne i Finland, som besto av 750 meter svĂžmming, 20 kilometer sykling og 5 kilometer lĂžping.</p><button aria-controls="«r159R0»" class="_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large _hug_6bkpv_81 _filled_6bkpv_106 _button_1mfx9_76" data-track-element-type="Factbox" data-track-id="factbox:dette-er-alexander-stubb" data-track-impression="true" data-track-name="Dette er Alexander Stubb" role="button" type="button"><span>Vis <!-- -->mer</span></button></section></div><!--astro:end--></astro-island><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Maktens triangel </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">I boken beskriver Stubb «maktens triangel»: Tre ideologier som han kaller det globale vest, det globale sĂžr og det globale Ăžst. Samspillet mellom dem vil pĂ„virke den nye verdensordenen.</p><article class="layout-component layout-normal layout-padded _small_1woao_91 mb-cpg"><a class="_link_1woao_14" data-track-id="teaser:6q6kvr" data-track-impression="true" data-track-name="Bokanmeldelse: Men hva med Trump?" href="https://www.vg.no/rampelys/i/6q6kvr/men-hva-med-trump"><h3 class="title-serif-xs _title_1woao_44">Bokanmeldelse: Men hva med Trump?</h3><figure class="_figure_1woao_1"><img alt="" class="_image_1woao_6" height="2422" loading="lazy" sizes="200px" src="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=40&s=7759e1e71f4600f4511fd9c1043a2ac9dc27120f" srcset="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=40&s=7759e1e71f4600f4511fd9c1043a2ac9dc27120f 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=80&s=8a76c711afffcf46fbbea79384a78e771e2c3d66 80w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=100&s=babbe8b7faf71cf51190fcc2eab830df75ba4907 100w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=200&s=ba7d8689c97895fca90333d8e9b913b0174d6e1b 200w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=240&s=09ca7fbefb17fb77198e86602f017bb6f3fff8e9 240w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=480&s=5291c9c557c7a153ddccec7d7ff0b8cc262537c1 480w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=580&s=96d15162aae278e9eafe13b0245326c66570d1dd 580w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=720&s=4a8f0d2bf5e95f244f4a7708879071042677fba4 720w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=1080&s=fe59e64c6bb4a51d44cad9c7aebfdba9e31abfda 1080w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=1440&s=469bb1ed0f64bb1e3ee0147caf5a39d47ebe10fa 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=2160&s=461d6327c90978d40ed54d388e8fbab27e78757a 2160w" width="2653"></figure></a></article><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Vi ser at verden er i endring, men vi vet ennĂ„ ikke hvor den er pĂ„ vei. I boken argumenterer jeg for at det vil gĂ„ noen Ă„r, kanskje til 2030, fĂžr en ny verdensorden kommer pĂ„ plass. Akkurat nĂ„ er vi i en periode hvor mektige aktĂžrer prĂžver Ă„ posisjonere seg der det finnes maktvakuum. 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">«Jalta»<span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151" role="presentation"><span class="text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156">«Jalta»</span>I Jalta i 1945 la andre verdenskrigs seierherrer â USA, Storbritannia og Sovjetunionen â grunnlaget for en verdensorden basert pĂ„ stormaktenes interesser. </span></abbr> eller <abbr class="_explanation_o9xde_140" tabindex="0" title="I 1975 kom 35 stater sammen i Helsingfors og etablerte en europeisk sikkerhetsstruktur basert pĂ„ regler, normer, og respekt for gjeldende landegrenser. ">«Helsingfors».<span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151" role="presentation"><span class="text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156">«Helsingfors».</span>I 1975 kom 35 stater sammen i Helsingfors og etablerte en europeisk sikkerhetsstruktur basert pĂ„ regler, normer, og respekt for gjeldende landegrenser. </span></abbr></p><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Fra krise til lĂžsning </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Stubb argumenterer for at krisene i verden har tĂžmret de europeiske landene mye tettere sammen. Han beskriver EU-samarbeidet i tre typiske faser:</p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_6"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â FĂžrst er det krise, sĂ„ kaos â men sĂ„ finner vi en lĂžsning alle kan leve med, forklarer han.</p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Han ramser opp: </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><a class="_link_o9xde_39" data-track-element-type="Link" data-track-id="link:aAMbd" href="/nyheter/i/aAMbd/slik-splitter-brexit-storbritannia">Brexit </a>dro de europeiske landene tettere sammen. SĂ„ kom covid, krigen i Ukraina, og energikrisen som landene samarbeidet om Ă„ lĂžse. Legg til sikkerhetstrusselen fra Russland, og «et visst trykk fra USA», som Stubb beskriver. </p><astro-island await-children client="visible" component-export="Image" component-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js" opts="{"name":"Image","value":true}" prefix="r173" 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class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">StĂžre har ogsĂ„ bekreftet den tette kontakten med president Stubb. De snakker sammen eller utveksler SMS-er omtrent hver eneste dag.</p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_7"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Hvordan kan Norge vĂŠre pĂ„ innsiden av de store beslutningene i Europa uten Ă„ vĂŠre medlem i EU?</strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â EU-medlemskapet er en beslutning Norge selv mĂ„ ta, selv om jeg personlig skulle Ăžnske at Storbritannia Island og Norge var med. 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Jonas er svĂŠrt aktiv i utenriks- og sikkerhetspolitikken. Den interessen har vi begge som tidligere utenriksministre. Norge bidrar med Ăžkt sikkerhet for oss som nytt medlem i Nato. NĂ„ samarbeider Finland, Sverige og Norge mye tettere om forsvar.</p><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">SMS til Trump </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">SĂžndag 18. januar sendte StĂžre og Stubb en felles tekstmelding til Donald Trump. De ramset opp uenighet om GrĂžnland, Gaza, Ukraina og straffetoll, og ba om et snarlig mĂžte.</p><astro-island await-children client="visible" component-export="Image" component-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js" opts="{"name":"Image","value":true}" prefix="r188" props="{"alt":[0],"caption":[0,"Foto: Hallgeir VĂ„genes / 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/96ce3533-6b7e-4dfe-904a-2b125daae56a?format=auto&w=1440&s=23ba348da58ebe99c99f035594b96743a9705d1e 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/96ce3533-6b7e-4dfe-904a-2b125daae56a?format=auto&w=2160&s=610205b1f750a102a1815aecd24ce4653b7eda5e 2160w" style="object-position:0% 0%" width="3647"><figcaption class="text-sans-s _caption_qp4xg_10 layout-component">Foto: Hallgeir VĂ„genes / VG</figcaption></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><a class="_link_o9xde_39" data-track-element-type="Link" data-track-id="link:q6AdB0" href="/nyheter/i/q6AdB0/trump-i-melding-til-stoere-foeler-ikke-lenger-noen-forpliktelse">27 minutter senere fikk StĂžre svar</a> fra Trump, som den amerikanske presidenten publiserte i sosiale medier: Ettersom Norge ikke ga Trump Nobels fredspris, var Trump ikke lengre forpliktet til Ă„ tenke fred alltid. Trump gjentok ogsĂ„ kravet om Ă„ overgi GrĂžnland til USA. </p><astro-island await-children client="visible" component-export="FactBox" component-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/FactBox.3qMhHu30.js" opts="{"name":"FactBox","value":true}" prefix="r190" props="{"component":[0,{"title":[0,{"value":[0,"Slik var SMS-utvekslingen "]}],"paragraphs":[1,[[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Tekstmelding fra statsminister StĂžre til president Trump 18. januar kl. 15:48: «Dear Mr president, dear Donald â on the contact across the Atlantic â on Greenland, Gaza, Ukraine â and your tariff announcement yesterday. You know our position on these issues. But we believe we all should work to take this down and de-escalate â so much is happening around us where we need to stand together. We are proposing a call with you later today â with both of us or separately â give us a hint of what you prefer! Best â Alex and Jonas»"],"markup":[1,[[0,{"type":[0,"style:em"],"offset":[0,80],"length":[0,448]}]]]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Tekstmelding fra president Trump til statsminister StĂžre 18. januar kl. 16:15: «Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a âright of ownershipâ anyway? There are no written documents, itâs only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT»"],"markup":[1,[[0,{"type":[0,"style:em"],"offset":[0,80],"length":[0,757]}]]]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}]]],"type":[0,"fact"]}],"type":[0,"feature"]}" renderer-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js" ssr uid="aJa32"><div class="_factbox_16v91_30 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded"><section aria-expanded="false" aria-label="Utvid" class="_box_1mfx9_1 font-vg-sans layout-component layout-normal _box_16v91_39" id="«r190R0»" role="region" style="max-height:var(--height)"><h2 class="_title_16v91_25 title-serif-s">Slik var SMS-utvekslingen </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded">Tekstmelding fra statsminister StĂžre til president Trump 18. januar kl. 15:48: «<em class="_em_o9xde_35">Dear Mr president, dear Donald â on the contact across the Atlantic â on Greenland, Gaza, Ukraine â and your tariff announcement yesterday. You know our position on these issues. But we believe we all should work to take this down and de-escalate â so much is happening around us where we need to stand together. We are proposing a call with you later today â with both of us or separately â give us a hint of what you prefer! Best â Alex and Jonas</em>»</p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded">Tekstmelding fra president Trump til statsminister StĂžre 18. januar kl. 16:15: «<em class="_em_o9xde_35">Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a âright of ownershipâ anyway? There are no written documents, itâs only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT</em>»</p><button aria-controls="«r190R0»" class="_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large _hug_6bkpv_81 _filled_6bkpv_106 _button_1mfx9_76" data-track-element-type="Factbox" data-track-id="factbox:slik-var-sms-utvekslingen" data-track-impression="true" data-track-name="Slik var SMS-utvekslingen " role="button" type="button"><span>Vis <!-- -->mer</span></button></section></div><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Jeg fikk den nĂžyaktig samme meldingen. Det sto «Dear Jonas» pĂ„ min ogsĂ„, bekrefter Stubb.</p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_8"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Vi melder ofte med Trump, og vi gjĂžr det sammen. Vi sender felles meldinger til andre europeiske ledere, til Ukrainas president Zelenskyj, forteller han.</p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Alexander Stubb har ytterligere en relasjon til Donald Trump som StĂžre ikke har. </p><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Golf-mĂžtet </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">I sin ungdom var Stubb pĂ„ Finlands ungdomslandslag i golf. 29. mars i fjor gikk Stubb og Trump ut pĂ„ Trump International Golf Club i Florida. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Jeg fikk syv timer pĂ„ tomannshĂ„nd med USAs president, mer enn alle mine forgjengere til sammen. Jeg skal ikke overvurdere min relasjon med presidenten, men jeg mener det var vel anvendt tid.</p><astro-island await-children client="visible" component-export="Image" component-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js" opts="{"name":"Image","value":true}" prefix="r198" props="{"alt":[0],"caption":[0,"Foto: Finnish Presidential Office via Instagram"],"device":[0],"editorialJudgment":[0],"imageAsset":[0,{"id":[0,"2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a"],"size":[0,{"width":[0,877],"height":[0,1170]}],"hotspot":[0,{"x":[0,213],"y":[0,76],"width":[0,427],"height":[0,320]}],"urls":[1,[[0,{"height":[0,53],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=40&s=38171b5210c29edf92548e140caf128dc87144d6"],"width":[0,40]}],[0,{"height":[0,107],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=80&s=c4d32ae9b0cbe6ee821b900f7cd9735e46ada8e1"],"width":[0,80]}],[0,{"height":[0,133],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=100&s=1fac5f0ff24d1c2dfdefcf6ae98fac0d7313e53a"],"width":[0,100]}],[0,{"height":[0,267],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=200&s=14c1dc3d3e3f16eeab079d32729d1cf28b1ef859"],"width":[0,200]}],[0,{"height":[0,320],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=240&s=2ed439ca0bf2359308bc0e7dd68a0742cbfc9aa3"],"width":[0,240]}],[0,{"height":[0,640],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=480&s=8cbf5bbf1d9021058197c164238b4a33243be41d"],"width":[0,480]}],[0,{"height":[0,774],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=580&s=c9d9b0861297248f3a59c2bc188999494fc6fa40"],"width":[0,580]}],[0,{"height":[0,961],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=720&s=d35bf401e5e2642c590297506b41f922e8a91b40"],"width":[0,720]}]]]}],"layout":[0],"marginBottom":[0],"padded":[0],"type":[0,"feature"]}" renderer-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js" ssr uid="ZhiJY5"><figure class="_figure_qp4xg_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded"><img alt="Foto: Finnish Presidential Office via Instagram" class="_image_qp4xg_65 layout-component layout-normal" data-fullscreen-sizes="(min-width: 1000px) 2000px, 2000vw" data-track-element-type="Article image fullscreen" data-track-name="ImageFullscreen" decoding="async" height="1170" itemprop="image" loading="lazy" sizes="(min-width: 980px) 980px, 100vw" src="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=40&s=38171b5210c29edf92548e140caf128dc87144d6" srcset="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=40&s=38171b5210c29edf92548e140caf128dc87144d6 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=80&s=c4d32ae9b0cbe6ee821b900f7cd9735e46ada8e1 80w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=100&s=1fac5f0ff24d1c2dfdefcf6ae98fac0d7313e53a 100w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=200&s=14c1dc3d3e3f16eeab079d32729d1cf28b1ef859 200w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=240&s=2ed439ca0bf2359308bc0e7dd68a0742cbfc9aa3 240w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=480&s=8cbf5bbf1d9021058197c164238b4a33243be41d 480w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=580&s=c9d9b0861297248f3a59c2bc188999494fc6fa40 580w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=720&s=d35bf401e5e2642c590297506b41f922e8a91b40 720w" style="object-position:48.63169897377423% 20.17094017094017%" width="877"><figcaption class="text-sans-s _caption_qp4xg_10 layout-component">Foto: Finnish Presidential Office via Instagram</figcaption></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">De var et <abbr class="_explanation_o9xde_140" tabindex="0" title="Stubb's medspillere er, ifĂžlge boken, senator Lindsey Graham, golflegenden Gary Player, Fox-anker Trey Gowdy og president Donald Trump.">team pĂ„ fem<span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151" role="presentation"><span class="text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156">team pĂ„ fem</span>Stubb's medspillere er, ifĂžlge boken, senator Lindsey Graham, golflegenden Gary Player, Fox-anker Trey Gowdy og president Donald Trump.</span></abbr> og spilte «best ball», hvor de to beste scorene pĂ„ hvert hull talte. De vekslet mellom Ă„ score par og birdies. I en turnering med rundt 30 team, vant laget med de to presidentene. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Hva fikk du og Finland igjen for det?</strong></em></p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_9"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â I ettertid tekster vi, vi ringes og vi diskuterer. Jeg tror det har vĂŠrt nyttig ved at vi etterpĂ„ har solgt 11 isbrytere til USA. Det er lett Ă„ glemme at diplomati egentlig har to ben. Det ene er det mellomstatlige forholdet, interessebasert ut fra makt, kultur og historie. Det andre er personlig. Som Finlands president er det min jobb Ă„ ha et bra forhold til USAs president. Om jeg lanserer 10 ideer og han tar en av dem, da har jeg lyktes.</p><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Sier fra </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â PĂ„ grunn av ditt golfspill, er Finland pĂ„ et bedre sted enn andre europeiske land?</strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Vi har et omfattende forsvarssamarbeid med USA, basert pĂ„ gjensidig interesse. Andre saker vurderer vi ulikt: Vi tror pĂ„ EU, pĂ„ en liberal verdensorden, og pĂ„ klimatrusselen. Jeg sier fra om at vi er uenig om straffetoll. Samtidig er det i USAs interesse Ă„ trene soldater i Arktis, Ă„ samarbeide om teknologi fordi store deler av deres mobile nettverk er levert av Nokia, og Ă„ samarbeide om sjeldne mineraler. </p><astro-island await-children client="visible" component-export="Image" component-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js" opts="{"name":"Image","value":true}" prefix="r206" 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renderer-url="https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js" ssr uid="ZMhTBJ"><figure class="_figure_qp4xg_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded"><img alt="" class="_image_qp4xg_65 layout-component layout-normal" data-fullscreen-sizes="(min-width: 1000px) 2000px, 2000vw" data-track-element-type="Article image fullscreen" data-track-name="ImageFullscreen" decoding="async" height="5482" itemprop="image" loading="lazy" sizes="(min-width: 980px) 980px, 100vw" src="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=40&s=e0f6ceffc50c002f84229490ebeb7cb9b8d5ab47" srcset="https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=40&s=e0f6ceffc50c002f84229490ebeb7cb9b8d5ab47 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=80&s=08d0331f1f3fbf77935b7ef83869c5f49e089624 80w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=100&s=8f217d18293cab647e07b8b4ab5415c757aa6be9 100w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=200&s=0af674794e575a7802d7b57745dcfca82eb27267 200w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=240&s=efab5bbffefbdb7d36830679e617d7c6da820ac8 240w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=480&s=7230a66103ca00495219a00db02e172c91c91afd 480w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=580&s=eeddc6e325d98bab35d69bb0194a574dc81dba91 580w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=720&s=47486cde660369d2212226da05173954bbc0c935 720w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=1080&s=d5cdc70fdc61a86e2a59449d7cdb46ff2667af42 1080w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=1440&s=0607397fe1c9c98ff643de77a48be60ea1fdbee0 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=2160&s=88f022225cb160864e26509aa7d206a803977497 2160w" style="object-position:0% 0%" width="7309"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Er det rom for kritikk?</strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Jeg er helt Ă„pen om at vi har et annet syn enn Trump i mange saker, som EU og klima. Derfor fungerer det. Jeg sender de samme analysene til Trump: Vi er hjertelig uenig med deg om straffetoll, for eksempel. USAs sikkerhetspolitikk er ogsĂ„ endret. 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d832bfbc-4243-410b-b6d6-566dc7f023b7?format=auto&w=1440&s=88de16749f7789a3afc44d893d46b6f2894ef4fb 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d832bfbc-4243-410b-b6d6-566dc7f023b7?format=auto&w=2160&s=ba9a541817444331afe66c9177a721742ef54de9 2160w" style="object-position:0% 0%" width="4496"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island></div><h2 class="_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">Trump-hviskeren </h2><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">I et VG-intervju i 2024 fortalte Stubbs forgjenger Sauli Niinistö <a class="_link_o9xde_39" data-track-element-type="Link" data-track-id="link:O84KqO" href="/nyheter/i/O84KqO/finlands-president-om-putin-samtalene-vi-burde-ha-forstaatt">om sine samtaler med Vladimir Putin</a>, og hvordan han ble lĂžyet for i tiden fĂžr Putin beordret invasjonen i Ukraina. </p><div class="advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article"><div class="advertory-vg-netboard__article" id="netboard_10"></div></div><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">Niinistö ble kalt Putin-hviskeren. Stubb omtales nĂ„ som Trump-hviskeren.</strong></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Hva slags kontakt har du med Putin?</strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â Vi har ikke snakket sammen siden jeg ble president for to Ă„r siden. Finske myndigheter har kontakt pĂ„ lavere nivĂ„er med Russland om grensespĂžrsmĂ„l og annet praktisk. </p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><em class="_em_o9xde_35"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Vil du kunne ha tillit til Putin etter Ukraina-krigen?</strong></em></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â VĂ„r 1340 kilometer grense mot Russland, den gĂ„r ikke over. Ă
bygge tillit med Russland igjen kan ta flere tiĂ„r. Da er muligens dagens russiske ledere erstattet, og vi kan ikke vite hvordan de vil forholde seg til Finland.</p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded"><strong class="_strong_o9xde_25">â Mange spĂ„r en massiv russisk opprustning mot Nato nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen tar slutt?</strong></p><p class="_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded">â I vĂ„r analyse er det selvsagt at vi vil ha flere russiske soldater nĂŠrt vĂ„re grenser nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen er over. Det er ikke noe nytt. Men Russland vet hvor sterkt vĂ„rt forsvar er. 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"content" : "Iskald vind sniker seg rundt gatehjĂžrnene i Helsingfors. Fjorden er like frosset som Finlands forhold til Russland.\n\nIsbrytere jobber dag og natt for Ă„ holde rĂ„ker Ă„pne for skipstrafikken som forbinder hovedstaden med omverdenen.\n\nInnerst i havnen ligger presidentpalasset. Der inne sitter [Alexander Stubb](/tag/alexander-stubb?utm_source=vg-article&utm_medium=auto-tagger&utm_campaign=0pGalM) \\(57\\) og forteller VG om hvordan isen kan brytes, og en ny verdensorden kan utformes.\n\nOg hvorfor han mener at Russland er i ferd med Ă„ tape krigen i Ukraina.\n\n## Mistet Karelen\n\nStubbs farmor og farfar var fĂždt i Karelen, som ble sovjetisk territorium i 1944 etter utmattende krigsĂ„r. Finland mĂ„tte ogsĂ„ betale enorme belĂžp i krigserstatning til Moskva, og ble tvunget til et rettsoppgjĂžr.\n\nFinlands tidligere president Risto Ryti ble dĂžmt til 10 Ă„rs fengsel.\n\n**â Vi fikk beholde vĂ„r selvstendighet, men vi tapte vĂ„r suverenitet, sier Stubb.**\n\nâ Sovjetunionen dikterte vilkĂ„rene: I starten fikk vi ikke vĂŠre med i Nordisk rĂ„d, i FN eller i EFTA.\n\n## Fire Ă„r med krig\n\nTirsdag 24. februar er det fire Ă„r siden russiske stridsvogner rullet mot Kyiv. Etter krigens fĂžrste fase har Russland i liten grad lyktes med Ă„ erobre mer av Ukrainas landareal. De siste mĂ„nedene har Putin gjort alt han kan for Ă„ fryse ut befolkningen.\n\n*â Kan det vĂŠre en lĂžsning for Ukraina, Ă„ gi bort areal i bytte med fred slik Finland mĂ„tte i 1944?*\n\nâ Ut fra vĂ„r historie, forstĂ„r finnene det som holder pĂ„ Ă„ skje i Ukraina. Men Ukraina er i en langt bedre situasjon en Finland var i, forklarer han.\n\n**â Ukraina har ikke tapt denne krigen, slĂ„r Stubb fast.**\n\nâ Det er Russland som har tapt, bĂ„de militĂŠrt, strategisk og Ăžkonomisk. Selv om Russland kontrollerer 20 prosent av Ukrainas areal, har de bare klart Ă„ ta ytterligere en prosent de to siste Ă„rene. 65.000 russiske soldater dĂžde bare i desember og januar. Da forstĂ„r du at Russland ikke kan vinne denne krigen. Ukraina vil ogsĂ„ fĂ„ sikkerhetsgarantier fra USA og Europa. Det hadde ikke Finland i 1944. Vi sto helt alene, sier den finske presidenten.\n\n## FN\\-reformer\n\n**Vi snakket ogsĂ„ med den finske presidenten om golf\\-runden som ga en unik tilgang til USAs president.**\n\n**Han skal i tillegg fortelle mer om det nĂŠre vennskapet med Jonas Gahr StĂžre.**\n\nMen fĂžrst: Alexander Stubb mener at FN mĂ„ reformeres. Ett av forslagene er at stormaktene mĂ„ oppgi sin vetorett i FNs sikkerhetsrĂ„d, og landene i sĂžr mĂ„ fĂ„ mer Ă„ si.\n\nâ Jeg kaller det for verdibasert realisme, sier Stubb.\n\nDet har han skrevet en bok om. «En ny verdensorden» er nĂ„ ute pĂ„ norsk.\n\n## Optimist av natur\n\nâ VĂ„re nordiske verdier som frihet, sikkerhet, menneskerettigheter og demokrati mĂ„ ligge fast. Men for Ă„ lĂžse verdens stĂžrste problemer som handler om klima, konflikter, energi og teknologi, da mĂ„ du samarbeide med land som ikke har de samme verdiene, fortsetter han.\n\n*â Tror du virkelig at de fem faste medlemmene av SikkerhetsrĂ„det vil gi opp sin vetorett?*\n\nâ Det vet jeg ikke. Men om man er optimist av natur, sĂ„ mĂ„ man i det minste forsĂžke Ă„ tenke nytt, sier Stubb.\n\n## Maktens triangel\n\nI boken beskriver Stubb «maktens triangel»: Tre ideologier som han kaller det globale vest, det globale sĂžr og det globale Ăžst. Samspillet mellom dem vil pĂ„virke den nye verdensordenen.\n\nâ Vi ser at verden er i endring, men vi vet ennĂ„ ikke hvor den er pĂ„ vei. I boken argumenterer jeg for at det vil gĂ„ noen Ă„r, kanskje til 2030, fĂžr en ny verdensorden kommer pĂ„ plass. Akkurat nĂ„ er vi i en periode hvor mektige aktĂžrer prĂžver Ă„ posisjonere seg der det finnes maktvakuum. Kina gjĂžr det, og Trumps nye fredsforum har ambisjoner om Ă„ gjĂžre det, sier han.\n\nKampen stĂ„r nĂ„ mellom to motstridende ideologier, ifĂžlge Stubb: «Jalta» eller «Helsingfors».\n\n## Fra krise til lĂžsning\n\nStubb argumenterer for at krisene i verden har tĂžmret de europeiske landene mye tettere sammen. Han beskriver EU\\-samarbeidet i tre typiske faser:\n\nâ FĂžrst er det krise, sĂ„ kaos â men sĂ„ finner vi en lĂžsning alle kan leve med, forklarer han.\n\nHan ramser opp:\n\n[Brexit ](/nyheter/i/aAMbd/slik-splitter-brexit-storbritannia)dro de europeiske landene tettere sammen. SĂ„ kom covid, krigen i Ukraina, og energikrisen som landene samarbeidet om Ă„ lĂžse. Legg til sikkerhetstrusselen fra Russland, og «et visst trykk fra USA», som Stubb beskriver.\n\n## Den han snakker mest med\n\n**Stubbs nĂŠrmeste samtalepartner i Europa er imidlertid ikke medlem i EU:**\n\nâ Skal jeg trekke fram den europeiske lederen som jeg har mest kommunikasjon med, sĂ„ er det Jonas Gahr StĂžre, sier han.\n\nStĂžre har ogsĂ„ bekreftet den tette kontakten med president Stubb. De snakker sammen eller utveksler SMS\\-er omtrent hver eneste dag.\n\n*â Hvordan kan Norge vĂŠre pĂ„ innsiden av de store beslutningene i Europa uten Ă„ vĂŠre medlem i EU?*\n\nâ EU\\-medlemskapet er en beslutning Norge selv mĂ„ ta, selv om jeg personlig skulle Ăžnske at Storbritannia Island og Norge var med. Men som Nato\\-medlem er Norge en stor aktĂžr i saker om sikkerhet, og spesielt om Arktis.\n\n*â Hva har Norge Ă„ legge pĂ„ bordet, i tillegg til olje og gass, for Ă„ bli hĂžrt?*\n\nâ Mye handler om personlighet. Jonas er svĂŠrt aktiv i utenriks\\- og sikkerhetspolitikken. Den interessen har vi begge som tidligere utenriksministre. Norge bidrar med Ăžkt sikkerhet for oss som nytt medlem i Nato. NĂ„ samarbeider Finland, Sverige og Norge mye tettere om forsvar.\n\n## SMS til Trump\n\nSĂžndag 18. januar sendte StĂžre og Stubb en felles tekstmelding til Donald Trump. De ramset opp uenighet om GrĂžnland, Gaza, Ukraina og straffetoll, og ba om et snarlig mĂžte.\n\n[27 minutter senere fikk StĂžre svar](/nyheter/i/q6AdB0/trump-i-melding-til-stoere-foeler-ikke-lenger-noen-forpliktelse) fra Trump, som den amerikanske presidenten publiserte i sosiale medier: Ettersom Norge ikke ga Trump Nobels fredspris, var Trump ikke lengre forpliktet til Ă„ tenke fred alltid. Trump gjentok ogsĂ„ kravet om Ă„ overgi GrĂžnland til USA.\n\nâ Jeg fikk den nĂžyaktig samme meldingen. Det sto «Dear Jonas» pĂ„ min ogsĂ„, bekrefter Stubb.\n\nâ Vi melder ofte med Trump, og vi gjĂžr det sammen. Vi sender felles meldinger til andre europeiske ledere, til Ukrainas president Zelenskyj, forteller han.\n\nAlexander Stubb har ytterligere en relasjon til Donald Trump som StĂžre ikke har.\n\n## Golf\\-mĂžtet\n\nI sin ungdom var Stubb pĂ„ Finlands ungdomslandslag i golf. 29. mars i fjor gikk Stubb og Trump ut pĂ„ Trump International Golf Club i Florida.\n\nâ Jeg fikk syv timer pĂ„ tomannshĂ„nd med USAs president, mer enn alle mine forgjengere til sammen. Jeg skal ikke overvurdere min relasjon med presidenten, men jeg mener det var vel anvendt tid.\n\nDe var et team pĂ„ fem og spilte «best ball», hvor de to beste scorene pĂ„ hvert hull talte. De vekslet mellom Ă„ score par og birdies. I en turnering med rundt 30 team, vant laget med de to presidentene.\n\n*â Hva fikk du og Finland igjen for det?*\n\nâ I ettertid tekster vi, vi ringes og vi diskuterer. Jeg tror det har vĂŠrt nyttig ved at vi etterpĂ„ har solgt 11 isbrytere til USA. Det er lett Ă„ glemme at diplomati egentlig har to ben. Det ene er det mellomstatlige forholdet, interessebasert ut fra makt, kultur og historie. Det andre er personlig. Som Finlands president er det min jobb Ă„ ha et bra forhold til USAs president. Om jeg lanserer 10 ideer og han tar en av dem, da har jeg lyktes.\n\n## Sier fra\n\n*â PĂ„ grunn av ditt golfspill, er Finland pĂ„ et bedre sted enn andre europeiske land?*\n\nâ Vi har et omfattende forsvarssamarbeid med USA, basert pĂ„ gjensidig interesse. Andre saker vurderer vi ulikt: Vi tror pĂ„ EU, pĂ„ en liberal verdensorden, og pĂ„ klimatrusselen. Jeg sier fra om at vi er uenig om straffetoll. Samtidig er det i USAs interesse Ă„ trene soldater i Arktis, Ă„ samarbeide om teknologi fordi store deler av deres mobile nettverk er levert av Nokia, og Ă„ samarbeide om sjeldne mineraler.\n\n*â Er det rom for kritikk?*\n\nâ Jeg er helt Ă„pen om at vi har et annet syn enn Trump i mange saker, som EU og klima. Derfor fungerer det. Jeg sender de samme analysene til Trump: Vi er hjertelig uenig med deg om straffetoll, for eksempel. USAs sikkerhetspolitikk er ogsĂ„ endret. Det er ikke lenger en\\-til\\-en med oss i Europa.\n\n## Trump\\-hviskeren\n\nI et VG\\-intervju i 2024 fortalte Stubbs forgjenger Sauli Niinistö [om sine samtaler med Vladimir Putin](/nyheter/i/O84KqO/finlands-president-om-putin-samtalene-vi-burde-ha-forstaatt), og hvordan han ble lĂžyet for i tiden fĂžr Putin beordret invasjonen i Ukraina.\n\n**Niinistö ble kalt Putin\\-hviskeren. Stubb omtales nĂ„ som Trump\\-hviskeren.**\n\n*â Hva slags kontakt har du med Putin?*\n\nâ Vi har ikke snakket sammen siden jeg ble president for to Ă„r siden. Finske myndigheter har kontakt pĂ„ lavere nivĂ„er med Russland om grensespĂžrsmĂ„l og annet praktisk.\n\n*â Vil du kunne ha tillit til Putin etter Ukraina\\-krigen?*\n\nâ VĂ„r 1340 kilometer grense mot Russland, den gĂ„r ikke over. Ă
bygge tillit med Russland igjen kan ta flere tiĂ„r. Da er muligens dagens russiske ledere erstattet, og vi kan ikke vite hvordan de vil forholde seg til Finland.\n\n**â Mange spĂ„r en massiv russisk opprustning mot Nato nĂ„r Ukraina\\-krigen tar slutt?**\n\nâ I vĂ„r analyse er det selvsagt at vi vil ha flere russiske soldater nĂŠrt vĂ„re grenser nĂ„r Ukraina\\-krigen er over. Det er ikke noe nytt. Men Russland vet hvor sterkt vĂ„rt forsvar er. Russland vet at Finland er Nato\\-medlem, svarer han.",
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Fjorden er like frosset som Finlands forhold til Russland.\\n\\nIsbrytere jobber dag og natt for Ă„ holde rĂ„ker Ă„pne for skipstrafikken som forbinder hovedstaden med omverdenen.\\n\\nInnerst i havnen ligger presidentpalasset. Der inne sitter [Alexander Stubb](/tag/alexander-stubb?utm_source=vg-article&utm_medium=auto-tagger&utm_campaign=0pGalM) \\\\(57\\\\) og forteller VG om hvordan isen kan brytes, og en ny verdensorden kan utformes.\\n\\nOg hvorfor han mener at Russland er i ferd med Ă„ tape krigen i Ukraina.\\n\\n## Mistet Karelen\\n\\nStubbs farmor og farfar var fĂždt i Karelen, som ble sovjetisk territorium i 1944 etter utmattende krigsĂ„r. Finland mĂ„tte ogsĂ„ betale enorme belĂžp i krigserstatning til Moskva, og ble tvunget til et rettsoppgjĂžr.\\n\\nFinlands tidligere president Risto Ryti ble dĂžmt til 10 Ă„rs fengsel.\\n\\n**ù Vi fikk beholde vĂ„r selvstendighet, men vi tapte vĂ„r suverenitet, sier Stubb.**\\n\\nù Sovjetunionen dikterte vilkĂ„rene: I starten fikk vi ikke vĂŠre med i Nordisk rĂ„d, i FN eller i EFTA.\\n\\n## Fire Ă„r med krig\\n\\nTirsdag 24. februar er det fire Ă„r siden russiske stridsvogner rullet mot Kyiv. Etter krigens fĂžrste fase har Russland i liten grad lyktes med Ă„ erobre mer av Ukrainas landareal. De siste mĂ„nedene har Putin gjort alt han kan for Ă„ fryse ut befolkningen.\\n\\n*ù Kan det vĂŠre en lĂžsning for Ukraina, Ă„ gi bort areal i bytte med fred slik Finland mĂ„tte i 1944?*\\n\\nù Ut fra vĂ„r historie, forstĂ„r finnene det som holder pĂ„ Ă„ skje i Ukraina. Men Ukraina er i en langt bedre situasjon en Finland var i, forklarer han.\\n\\n**ù Ukraina har ikke tapt denne krigen, slĂ„r Stubb fast.**\\n\\nù Det er Russland som har tapt, bĂ„de militĂŠrt, strategisk og Ăžkonomisk. Selv om Russland kontrollerer 20 prosent av Ukrainas areal, har de bare klart Ă„ ta ytterligere en prosent de to siste Ă„rene. 65.000 russiske soldater dĂžde bare i desember og januar. Da forstĂ„r du at Russland ikke kan vinne denne krigen. Ukraina vil ogsĂ„ fĂ„ sikkerhetsgarantier fra USA og Europa. Det hadde ikke Finland i 1944. Vi sto helt alene, sier den finske presidenten.\\n\\n## FN\\\\-reformer\\n\\n**Vi snakket ogsĂ„ med den finske presidenten om golf\\\\-runden som ga en unik tilgang til USAs president.**\\n\\n**Han skal i tillegg fortelle mer om det nĂŠre vennskapet med Jonas Gahr StĂžre.**\\n\\nMen fĂžrst: Alexander Stubb mener at FN mĂ„ reformeres. Ett av forslagene er at stormaktene mĂ„ oppgi sin vetorett i FNs sikkerhetsrĂ„d, og landene i sĂžr mĂ„ fĂ„ mer Ă„ si.\\n\\nù Jeg kaller det for verdibasert realisme, sier Stubb.\\n\\nDet har han skrevet en bok om. Ă«En ny verdensordenĂ» er nĂ„ ute pĂ„ norsk.\\n\\n## Optimist av natur\\n\\nù VĂ„re nordiske verdier som frihet, sikkerhet, menneskerettigheter og demokrati mĂ„ ligge fast. Men for Ă„ lĂžse verdens stĂžrste problemer som handler om klima, konflikter, energi og teknologi, da mĂ„ du samarbeide med land som ikke har de samme verdiene, fortsetter han.\\n\\n*ù Tror du virkelig at de fem faste medlemmene av SikkerhetsrĂ„det vil gi opp sin vetorett?*\\n\\nù Det vet jeg ikke. Men om man er optimist av natur, sĂ„ mĂ„ man i det minste forsĂžke Ă„ tenke nytt, sier Stubb.\\n\\n## Maktens triangel\\n\\nI boken beskriver Stubb Ă«maktens triangelĂ»: Tre ideologier som han kaller det globale vest, det globale sĂžr og det globale Ăžst. Samspillet mellom dem vil pĂ„virke den nye verdensordenen.\\n\\nù Vi ser at verden er i endring, men vi vet ennĂ„ ikke hvor den er pĂ„ vei. I boken argumenterer jeg for at det vil gĂ„ noen Ă„r, kanskje til 2030, fĂžr en ny verdensorden kommer pĂ„ plass. Akkurat nĂ„ er vi i en periode hvor mektige aktĂžrer prĂžver Ă„ posisjonere seg der det finnes maktvakuum. Kina gjĂžr det, og Trumps nye fredsforum har ambisjoner om Ă„ gjĂžre det, sier han.\\n\\nKampen stĂ„r nĂ„ mellom to motstridende ideologier, ifĂžlge Stubb: Ă«JaltaĂ» eller Ă«HelsingforsĂ».\\n\\n## Fra krise til lĂžsning\\n\\nStubb argumenterer for at krisene i verden har tĂžmret de europeiske landene mye tettere sammen. Han beskriver EU\\\\-samarbeidet i tre typiske faser:\\n\\nù FĂžrst er det krise, sĂ„ kaos ù men sĂ„ finner vi en lĂžsning alle kan leve med, forklarer han.\\n\\nHan ramser opp:\\n\\n[Brexit ](/nyheter/i/aAMbd/slik-splitter-brexit-storbritannia)dro de europeiske landene tettere sammen. SĂ„ kom covid, krigen i Ukraina, og energikrisen som landene samarbeidet om Ă„ lĂžse. Legg til sikkerhetstrusselen fra Russland, og Ă«et visst trykk fra USAĂ», som Stubb beskriver.\\n\\n## Den han snakker mest med\\n\\n**Stubbs nĂŠrmeste samtalepartner i Europa er imidlertid ikke medlem i EU:**\\n\\nù Skal jeg trekke fram den europeiske lederen som jeg har mest kommunikasjon med, sĂ„ er det Jonas Gahr StĂžre, sier han.\\n\\nStĂžre har ogsĂ„ bekreftet den tette kontakten med president Stubb. De snakker sammen eller utveksler SMS\\\\-er omtrent hver eneste dag.\\n\\n*ù Hvordan kan Norge vĂŠre pĂ„ innsiden av de store beslutningene i Europa uten Ă„ vĂŠre medlem i EU?*\\n\\nù EU\\\\-medlemskapet er en beslutning Norge selv mĂ„ ta, selv om jeg personlig skulle Ăžnske at Storbritannia Island og Norge var med. Men som Nato\\\\-medlem er Norge en stor aktĂžr i saker om sikkerhet, og spesielt om Arktis.\\n\\n*ù Hva har Norge Ă„ legge pĂ„ bordet, i tillegg til olje og gass, for Ă„ bli hĂžrt?*\\n\\nù Mye handler om personlighet. Jonas er svĂŠrt aktiv i utenriks\\\\- og sikkerhetspolitikken. Den interessen har vi begge som tidligere utenriksministre. Norge bidrar med Ăžkt sikkerhet for oss som nytt medlem i Nato. NĂ„ samarbeider Finland, Sverige og Norge mye tettere om forsvar.\\n\\n## SMS til Trump\\n\\nSĂžndag 18. januar sendte StĂžre og Stubb en felles tekstmelding til Donald Trump. De ramset opp uenighet om GrĂžnland, Gaza, Ukraina og straffetoll, og ba om et snarlig mĂžte.\\n\\n[27 minutter senere fikk StĂžre svar](/nyheter/i/q6AdB0/trump-i-melding-til-stoere-foeler-ikke-lenger-noen-forpliktelse) fra Trump, som den amerikanske presidenten publiserte i sosiale medier: Ettersom Norge ikke ga Trump Nobels fredspris, var Trump ikke lengre forpliktet til Ă„ tenke fred alltid. Trump gjentok ogsĂ„ kravet om Ă„ overgi GrĂžnland til USA.\\n\\nù Jeg fikk den nĂžyaktig samme meldingen. Det sto Ă«Dear JonasĂ» pĂ„ min ogsĂ„, bekrefter Stubb.\\n\\nù Vi melder ofte med Trump, og vi gjĂžr det sammen. Vi sender felles meldinger til andre europeiske ledere, til Ukrainas president Zelenskyj, forteller han.\\n\\nAlexander Stubb har ytterligere en relasjon til Donald Trump som StĂžre ikke har.\\n\\n## Golf\\\\-mĂžtet\\n\\nI sin ungdom var Stubb pĂ„ Finlands ungdomslandslag i golf. 29. mars i fjor gikk Stubb og Trump ut pĂ„ Trump International Golf Club i Florida.\\n\\nù Jeg fikk syv timer pĂ„ tomannshĂ„nd med USAs president, mer enn alle mine forgjengere til sammen. Jeg skal ikke overvurdere min relasjon med presidenten, men jeg mener det var vel anvendt tid.\\n\\nDe var et team pĂ„ fem og spilte Ă«best ballĂ», hvor de to beste scorene pĂ„ hvert hull talte. De vekslet mellom Ă„ score par og birdies. I en turnering med rundt 30 team, vant laget med de to presidentene.\\n\\n*ù Hva fikk du og Finland igjen for det?*\\n\\nù I ettertid tekster vi, vi ringes og vi diskuterer. Jeg tror det har vĂŠrt nyttig ved at vi etterpĂ„ har solgt 11 isbrytere til USA. Det er lett Ă„ glemme at diplomati egentlig har to ben. Det ene er det mellomstatlige forholdet, interessebasert ut fra makt, kultur og historie. Det andre er personlig. Som Finlands president er det min jobb Ă„ ha et bra forhold til USAs president. Om jeg lanserer 10 ideer og han tar en av dem, da har jeg lyktes.\\n\\n## Sier fra\\n\\n*ù PĂ„ grunn av ditt golfspill, er Finland pĂ„ et bedre sted enn andre europeiske land?*\\n\\nù Vi har et omfattende forsvarssamarbeid med USA, basert pĂ„ gjensidig interesse. Andre saker vurderer vi ulikt: Vi tror pĂ„ EU, pĂ„ en liberal verdensorden, og pĂ„ klimatrusselen. Jeg sier fra om at vi er uenig om straffetoll. Samtidig er det i USAs interesse Ă„ trene soldater i Arktis, Ă„ samarbeide om teknologi fordi store deler av deres mobile nettverk er levert av Nokia, og Ă„ samarbeide om sjeldne mineraler.\\n\\n*ù Er det rom for kritikk?*\\n\\nù Jeg er helt Ă„pen om at vi har et annet syn enn Trump i mange saker, som EU og klima. Derfor fungerer det. Jeg sender de samme analysene til Trump: Vi er hjertelig uenig med deg om straffetoll, for eksempel. USAs sikkerhetspolitikk er ogsĂ„ endret. Det er ikke lenger en\\\\-til\\\\-en med oss i Europa.\\n\\n## Trump\\\\-hviskeren\\n\\nI et VG\\\\-intervju i 2024 fortalte Stubbs forgjenger Sauli Niinistö [om sine samtaler med Vladimir Putin](/nyheter/i/O84KqO/finlands-president-om-putin-samtalene-vi-burde-ha-forstaatt), og hvordan han ble lĂžyet for i tiden fĂžr Putin beordret invasjonen i Ukraina.\\n\\n**Niinistö ble kalt Putin\\\\-hviskeren. Stubb omtales nĂ„ som Trump\\\\-hviskeren.**\\n\\n*ù Hva slags kontakt har du med Putin?*\\n\\nù Vi har ikke snakket sammen siden jeg ble president for to Ă„r siden. Finske myndigheter har kontakt pĂ„ lavere nivĂ„er med Russland om grensespĂžrsmĂ„l og annet praktisk.\\n\\n*ù Vil du kunne ha tillit til Putin etter Ukraina\\\\-krigen?*\\n\\nù VĂ„r 1340 kilometer grense mot Russland, den gĂ„r ikke over. ĂÂ
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class=\"article-body\" itemprop=\"articleBody\" style=\"display: contents\"> <div class=\"layout-component layout-padded layout-normal _tts_1njly_1\" data-track-id=\"tts:37310\" data-track-impression data-track-name=\"SMS-diplomaten\" data-track-target-newsroom=\"vgtts\"><astro-island await-children client=\"load\" component-export=\"TTSPlayer\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/video.mhxDKcCw.js\" opts=\"{"name":"TTSPlayer","value":true}\" prefix=\"r230\" props=\"{"assetId":[0,37310],"vendor":[0,"vgtts"],"isApp":[0,false]}\" renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"1WTMzl\"><div class=\"_svpContainer_1nwbk_1\"><div id=\"svp-video-37310-«r230R0»\"></div></div><div class=\"_perspective_1nwbk_11\"><div class=\"_controls_1nwbk_16\"><div class=\"_initial_1nwbk_33\"><button aria-disabled=\"true\" aria-label=\"Laster inn lytt til saken avspiller\" class=\"_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large 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component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/ArticleSummary.GlYpg37Z.js\" opts=\"{"name":"ArticleSummary","value":true}\" prefix=\"r13\" props=\"{"articleSummary":[1,[[0,{"items":[1,[[0,{"value":[0,"Finlands president Alexander Stubb sier Ukraina er pĂ„ vei til Ă„ vinne krigen mot Russland."],"markup":[1,[]]}],[0,{"value":[0,"Han trekker paralleller til Finlands tap av Karelen etter krigen i 1944."],"markup":[1,[]]}],[0,{"value":[0,"Stubb mener FN mĂ„ reformeres og stormakter bĂžr gi opp vetoretten."],"markup":[1,[]]}],[0,{"value":[0,"Han fremhever sitt nĂŠre forhold til Jonas Gahr StĂžre, og forteller om den lange golfrunden med USAs president."],"markup":[1,[]]}]]],"blockType":[0,"list:unordered"]}]]],"type":[0,"feature"],"introType":[0,"sticky"]}\" renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"22ygOb\"><div class=\"_summary_64s2r_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded\"><track-element data-track-element-type=\"Article Summary\" data-track-id=\"article-summary\" data-track-impression=\"\" data-track-name=\"Article Summary\"><section aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-label=\"Utvid\" class=\"_box_1mfx9_1 font-vg-sans layout-component layout-normal _box_64s2r_31\" id=\"«r13R0»\" role=\"region\" style=\"max-height:var(--height)\"><div class=\"_titleContainer_64s2r_44\"><h2 class=\"title-serif-s _title_64s2r_44\">Kortversjonen</h2><button aria-label=\"Vis informasjon\" class=\"_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large _button_64s2r_20\" data-track-id=\"article-summary-disclaimer\" data-track-name=\"Article Summary Disclaimer\" role=\"button\" type=\"button\"><svg aria-label=\"Ai\" fill=\"none\" height=\"24px\" role=\"graphics-symbol\" style=\"flex-shrink:0;height:var(--icon-size, var(--space-l));width:auto\" viewbox=\"0 0 24 24\" width=\"24px\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\"><path d=\"M12.4244 11.4646L17.3 13.2687V15.3201L12.4244 17.1242L10.6202 22H8.56907L6.76485 17.1242L2 15.361V13.2278L6.76485 11.4646L8.52796 6.69995H10.6613L12.4244 11.4646Z\" fill=\"var(--icon-color, currentColor)\"></path><path d=\"M19.6103 4.33579L22 5.22004V6.22577L19.6103 7.11012L18.7259 9.50008H17.7203L16.8359 7.11012L14.5 6.24569V5.20012L16.8359 4.33579L17.7003 2.00003H18.7459L19.6103 4.33579Z\" fill=\"var(--icon-color, currentColor)\"></path></svg></button></div><div class=\"_disclaimer_64s2r_50\" hidden=\"\"><span class=\"_text_64s2r_64\" data-nosnippet=\"true\">Oppsummeringen er laget med kunstig intelligens og<!-- --> <a href=\"https://www.vg.no/informasjon/redaksjonelle-avgjorelser/183\">kvalitetssikret av VGs journalister.</a></span></div><ul class=\"_list_o9xde_3 _list_64s2r_85 _unordered_o9xde_106 text-sans-m\"><li class=\"_item_o9xde_30\">Finlands president Alexander Stubb sier Ukraina er pĂ„ vei til Ă„ vinne krigen mot Russland.</li><li class=\"_item_o9xde_30\">Han trekker paralleller til Finlands tap av Karelen etter krigen i 1944.</li><li class=\"_item_o9xde_30\">Stubb mener FN mĂ„ reformeres og stormakter bĂžr gi opp vetoretten.</li><li class=\"_item_o9xde_30\">Han fremhever sitt nĂŠre forhold til Jonas Gahr StĂžre, og forteller om den lange golfrunden med USAs president.</li></ul><button aria-controls=\"«r13R0»\" class=\"_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large _hug_6bkpv_81 _filled_6bkpv_106 _button_1mfx9_76\" role=\"button\" type=\"button\"><span>Vis <!-- -->mer</span></button></section></track-element></div><!--astro:end--></astro-island> <p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Iskald vind sniker seg rundt gatehjĂžrnene i Helsingfors. Fjorden er like frosset som Finlands forhold til Russland. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"> Isbrytere jobber dag og natt for Ă„ holde rĂ„ker Ă„pne for skipstrafikken som forbinder hovedstaden med omverdenen. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Innerst i havnen ligger presidentpalasset. 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4e5c862e-1561-4d9d-9af4-863b350df24e?format=auto&w=1440&s=93278d552a644e0bd03535a710f58dae00d680b4 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4e5c862e-1561-4d9d-9af4-863b350df24e?format=auto&w=2160&s=2d87eea7df44d35ebdffa1a8733792df351195c0 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"7065\"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island></div><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Mistet Karelen </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Stubbs farmor og farfar var fĂždt i <abbr class=\"_explanation_o9xde_140\" tabindex=\"0\" title=\"Et geografisk omrĂ„de som strekker seg fra de mest Ăžstlige og sĂžrĂžstlige delene av Finland mot Russland.\">Karelen<span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151\" role=\"presentation\"><span class=\"text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156\">Karelen</span>Et geografisk omrĂ„de som strekker seg fra de mest Ăžstlige og sĂžrĂžstlige delene av Finland mot Russland.</span></abbr>, som ble sovjetisk territorium i 1944 etter utmattende krigsĂ„r. Finland mĂ„tte ogsĂ„ betale enorme belĂžp i krigserstatning til Moskva, og ble tvunget til et rettsoppgjĂžr. </p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_2\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Finlands tidligere president Risto Ryti ble dĂžmt til 10 Ă„rs fengsel. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Vi fikk beholde vĂ„r selvstendighet, men vi tapte vĂ„r suverenitet, sier Stubb.</strong></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Sovjetunionen dikterte vilkĂ„rene: I starten fikk vi ikke vĂŠre med i Nordisk rĂ„d, i FN eller i EFTA.</p><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Fire Ă„r med krig </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Tirsdag 24. februar er det fire Ă„r siden russiske stridsvogner rullet mot Kyiv. Etter krigens fĂžrste fase har Russland i liten grad lyktes med Ă„ erobre mer av Ukrainas landareal. De siste mĂ„nedene har Putin gjort alt han kan for Ă„ fryse ut befolkningen. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"> <em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Kan det vĂŠre en lĂžsning for Ukraina, Ă„ gi bort areal i bytte med fred slik Finland mĂ„tte i 1944?</strong></em></p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_3\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Ut fra vĂ„r historie, forstĂ„r finnene det som holder pĂ„ Ă„ skje i Ukraina. Men Ukraina er i en langt bedre situasjon en Finland var i, forklarer han.</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Ukraina har ikke tapt denne krigen, slĂ„r Stubb fast.</strong></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Det er Russland som har tapt, bĂ„de militĂŠrt, strategisk og Ăžkonomisk. Selv om Russland kontrollerer 20 prosent av Ukrainas areal, har de bare klart Ă„ ta ytterligere en prosent de to siste Ă„rene. 65.000 russiske soldater dĂžde bare i desember og januar. Da forstĂ„r du at Russland ikke kan vinne denne krigen. Ukraina vil ogsĂ„ fĂ„ sikkerhetsgarantier fra USA og Europa. Det hadde ikke Finland i 1944. Vi sto helt alene, sier den finske presidenten.</p><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">FN-reformer </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">Vi snakket ogsĂ„ med den finske presidenten om <a class=\"_link_o9xde_39\" data-track-element-type=\"Link\" data-track-id=\"link:dR89Oz\" href=\"/nyheter/i/dR89Oz/president-stubb-vi-beveger-oss-mer-mot-mistillitssiden\">golf-runden som ga en unik tilgang til USAs president. </a></strong></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">Han skal i tillegg fortelle mer om <a class=\"_link_o9xde_39\" data-track-element-type=\"Link\" data-track-id=\"link:kw63BX\" href=\"/nyheter/i/kw63BX/stoere-paa-teambuilding-i-bodoe-med-kristersson-og-stubb\">det nĂŠre vennskapet med Jonas Gahr StĂžre. </a></strong></p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_4\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Men fĂžrst: Alexander Stubb mener at FN mĂ„ reformeres. Ett av forslagene er at stormaktene mĂ„ oppgi sin vetorett i FNs sikkerhetsrĂ„d, og landene i sĂžr mĂ„ fĂ„ mer Ă„ si. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Jeg kaller det for verdibasert realisme, sier Stubb.</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Det har han skrevet en bok om. «En ny verdensorden» er nĂ„ ute pĂ„ norsk.</p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r153\" 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renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"ZzmulH\"><figure class=\"_figure_qp4xg_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"_image_qp4xg_65 layout-component layout-normal\" data-fullscreen-sizes=\"(min-width: 1000px) 2000px, 2000vw\" data-track-element-type=\"Article image fullscreen\" data-track-name=\"ImageFullscreen\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"5477\" itemprop=\"image\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"(min-width: 980px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=40&s=b07f83c9d05163c1484fad72def62e8dfb0f9eca\" srcset=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=40&s=b07f83c9d05163c1484fad72def62e8dfb0f9eca 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=80&s=249a33cc7f25b3245904ea34fd6edb8c77b41aa0 80w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=100&s=78ff0387ac3e19c8beda09c267ae0980721560ec 100w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=200&s=581c19070dcbc44258d81dc05f53c602d13eb921 200w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=240&s=3124d5b9aae1fc68ac8eadb654c410a75fcd17a1 240w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=480&s=d2878b26c5c9d5e16a4b65093f7248b5bd4efe75 480w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=580&s=eacfcb7f4cf418af7a52b50226e120f1c71193b4 580w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=720&s=74b01bdb82b3d7c929c7c0ea203fdf8b7582684b 720w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=1080&s=d5b44b5af84e93c475535f430ffba379779e9eb6 1080w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=1440&s=7594b1aafebeaf920514d1a5955993ca39c898ac 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/b8814e27-16bc-4ccf-913e-46b429d18b30?format=auto&w=2160&s=699062d03b7bd26222c318bd1fac14902acc60c8 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"7303\"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Optimist av natur </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â VĂ„re nordiske verdier som frihet, sikkerhet, menneskerettigheter og demokrati mĂ„ ligge fast. Men for Ă„ lĂžse verdens stĂžrste problemer som handler om klima, konflikter, energi og teknologi, da mĂ„ du samarbeide med land som ikke har de samme verdiene, fortsetter han.</p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_5\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Tror du virkelig at de fem faste medlemmene av SikkerhetsrĂ„det vil gi opp sin vetorett? </strong></em></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Det vet jeg ikke. Men om man er optimist av natur, sĂ„ mĂ„ man i det minste forsĂžke Ă„ tenke nytt, sier Stubb.</p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"FactBox\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/FactBox.3qMhHu30.js\" opts=\"{"name":"FactBox","value":true}\" prefix=\"r159\" props=\"{"component":[0,{"title":[0,{"value":[0,"Dette er Alexander Stubb"]}],"paragraphs":[1,[[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Cai-Göran Alexander Stubb (fĂždt 1. april 1968) har vĂŠrt Finlands president siden 1. mars 2024. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Han vokste opp i Helsingfors i et tosprĂ„klig hjem: moren var finsksprĂ„klig mens faren snakket svensk og var toppsjef i Finlands ishockeyforbund og talentspeider for den amerikanske ishockeyligaen NHL. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Alexander Stubb har studert ved universiteter i USA, Frankrike, Belgia og Storbritannia, og har en doktorgrad i statsvitenskap fra London School of Economics. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Etter en periode som folkevalgt i EU-parlamentet for Samlingspartiet, som er HĂžyres finske sĂžsterparti, ble Stubb utnevnt til utenriksminister i Finland i 2008. Han fortsatte i ulike finske koalisjonsregjeringer som europaminister, statsminister og finansminister fram til 2016. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"I 2017 forlot han Finland for Ă„ bli visepresident i den europeiske investeringsbanken. Fra 2020 og fram til han startet president-kampanjen hĂžsten 2023, var han professor i statsvitenskap ved Europa-universitetet i Firenze. "],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Stubb vant europamesterskapet i triatlon i sin aldersklasse i 2022. I fjor sommer tok han annenplassen i et triatlon-stevne i Finland, som besto av 750 meter svĂžmming, 20 kilometer sykling og 5 kilometer lĂžping."],"markup":[0]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}]]],"type":[0,"fact"]}],"type":[0,"feature"]}\" renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"Zsweyi\"><div class=\"_factbox_16v91_30 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded\"><section aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-label=\"Utvid\" class=\"_box_1mfx9_1 font-vg-sans layout-component layout-normal _box_16v91_39\" id=\"«r159R0»\" role=\"region\" style=\"max-height:var(--height)\"><h2 class=\"_title_16v91_25 title-serif-s\">Dette er Alexander Stubb</h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Cai-Göran Alexander Stubb (fĂždt 1. april 1968) har vĂŠrt Finlands president siden 1. mars 2024. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Han vokste opp i Helsingfors i et tosprĂ„klig hjem: moren var finsksprĂ„klig mens faren snakket svensk og var toppsjef i Finlands ishockeyforbund og talentspeider for den amerikanske ishockeyligaen NHL. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Alexander Stubb har studert ved universiteter i USA, Frankrike, Belgia og Storbritannia, og har en doktorgrad i statsvitenskap fra London School of Economics. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Etter en periode som folkevalgt i EU-parlamentet for Samlingspartiet, som er HĂžyres finske sĂžsterparti, ble Stubb utnevnt til utenriksminister i Finland i 2008. Han fortsatte i ulike finske koalisjonsregjeringer som europaminister, statsminister og finansminister fram til 2016. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">I 2017 forlot han Finland for Ă„ bli visepresident i den europeiske investeringsbanken. Fra 2020 og fram til han startet president-kampanjen hĂžsten 2023, var han professor i statsvitenskap ved Europa-universitetet i Firenze. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Stubb vant europamesterskapet i triatlon i sin aldersklasse i 2022. I fjor sommer tok han annenplassen i et triatlon-stevne i Finland, som besto av 750 meter svĂžmming, 20 kilometer sykling og 5 kilometer lĂžping.</p><button aria-controls=\"«r159R0»\" class=\"_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large _hug_6bkpv_81 _filled_6bkpv_106 _button_1mfx9_76\" data-track-element-type=\"Factbox\" data-track-id=\"factbox:dette-er-alexander-stubb\" data-track-impression=\"true\" data-track-name=\"Dette er Alexander Stubb\" role=\"button\" type=\"button\"><span>Vis <!-- -->mer</span></button></section></div><!--astro:end--></astro-island><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Maktens triangel </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">I boken beskriver Stubb «maktens triangel»: Tre ideologier som han kaller det globale vest, det globale sĂžr og det globale Ăžst. Samspillet mellom dem vil pĂ„virke den nye verdensordenen.</p><article class=\"layout-component layout-normal layout-padded _small_1woao_91 mb-cpg\"><a class=\"_link_1woao_14\" data-track-id=\"teaser:6q6kvr\" data-track-impression=\"true\" data-track-name=\"Bokanmeldelse: Men hva med Trump?\" href=\"https://www.vg.no/rampelys/i/6q6kvr/men-hva-med-trump\"><h3 class=\"title-serif-xs _title_1woao_44\">Bokanmeldelse: Men hva med Trump?</h3><figure class=\"_figure_1woao_1\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"_image_1woao_6\" height=\"2422\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"200px\" src=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=40&s=7759e1e71f4600f4511fd9c1043a2ac9dc27120f\" srcset=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=40&s=7759e1e71f4600f4511fd9c1043a2ac9dc27120f 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=80&s=8a76c711afffcf46fbbea79384a78e771e2c3d66 80w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=100&s=babbe8b7faf71cf51190fcc2eab830df75ba4907 100w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=200&s=ba7d8689c97895fca90333d8e9b913b0174d6e1b 200w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=240&s=09ca7fbefb17fb77198e86602f017bb6f3fff8e9 240w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=480&s=5291c9c557c7a153ddccec7d7ff0b8cc262537c1 480w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=580&s=96d15162aae278e9eafe13b0245326c66570d1dd 580w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=720&s=4a8f0d2bf5e95f244f4a7708879071042677fba4 720w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=1080&s=fe59e64c6bb4a51d44cad9c7aebfdba9e31abfda 1080w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=1440&s=469bb1ed0f64bb1e3ee0147caf5a39d47ebe10fa 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d9e5fbaa-0c96-43d5-a906-a1b26982e338?format=auto&w=2160&s=461d6327c90978d40ed54d388e8fbab27e78757a 2160w\" width=\"2653\"></figure></a></article><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Vi ser at verden er i endring, men vi vet ennĂ„ ikke hvor den er pĂ„ vei. I boken argumenterer jeg for at det vil gĂ„ noen Ă„r, kanskje til 2030, fĂžr en ny verdensorden kommer pĂ„ plass. Akkurat nĂ„ er vi i en periode hvor mektige aktĂžrer prĂžver Ă„ posisjonere seg der det finnes maktvakuum. Kina gjĂžr det, og Trumps nye fredsforum har ambisjoner om Ă„ gjĂžre det, sier han. </p><div class=\"responsive\"><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r163\" 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4a0ce8fa-f9ff-43a6-9ddf-d35c0aa77cd8?format=auto&w=1440&s=82d4ce776550ac3229f83cac334c618273c4ddcd 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/4a0ce8fa-f9ff-43a6-9ddf-d35c0aa77cd8?format=auto&w=2160&s=9e5777420a3e29bc888c05b0bdb4ba037ae1fddd 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"8256\"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Kampen stĂ„r nĂ„ mellom to motstridende ideologier, ifĂžlge Stubb: <abbr class=\"_explanation_o9xde_140\" tabindex=\"0\" title=\"I Jalta i 1945 la andre verdenskrigs seierherrer â USA, Storbritannia og Sovjetunionen â grunnlaget for en verdensorden basert pĂ„ stormaktenes interesser. \">«Jalta»<span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151\" role=\"presentation\"><span class=\"text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156\">«Jalta»</span>I Jalta i 1945 la andre verdenskrigs seierherrer â USA, Storbritannia og Sovjetunionen â grunnlaget for en verdensorden basert pĂ„ stormaktenes interesser. </span></abbr> eller <abbr class=\"_explanation_o9xde_140\" tabindex=\"0\" title=\"I 1975 kom 35 stater sammen i Helsingfors og etablerte en europeisk sikkerhetsstruktur basert pĂ„ regler, normer, og respekt for gjeldende landegrenser. \">«Helsingfors».<span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151\" role=\"presentation\"><span class=\"text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156\">«Helsingfors».</span>I 1975 kom 35 stater sammen i Helsingfors og etablerte en europeisk sikkerhetsstruktur basert pĂ„ regler, normer, og respekt for gjeldende landegrenser. </span></abbr></p><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Fra krise til lĂžsning </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Stubb argumenterer for at krisene i verden har tĂžmret de europeiske landene mye tettere sammen. Han beskriver EU-samarbeidet i tre typiske faser:</p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_6\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â FĂžrst er det krise, sĂ„ kaos â men sĂ„ finner vi en lĂžsning alle kan leve med, forklarer han.</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Han ramser opp: </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><a class=\"_link_o9xde_39\" data-track-element-type=\"Link\" data-track-id=\"link:aAMbd\" href=\"/nyheter/i/aAMbd/slik-splitter-brexit-storbritannia\">Brexit </a>dro de europeiske landene tettere sammen. SĂ„ kom covid, krigen i Ukraina, og energikrisen som landene samarbeidet om Ă„ lĂžse. Legg til sikkerhetstrusselen fra Russland, og «et visst trykk fra USA», som Stubb beskriver. </p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r173\" 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/7702ac14-b448-4426-813c-59228ffaf7ea?format=auto&w=1440&s=822851a6e0bc1e79b1a069d501a192b4c8cd3ca1 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/7702ac14-b448-4426-813c-59228ffaf7ea?format=auto&w=2160&s=edfc4aed8b4c194610f1ab61ed04a541b7adadab 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"3263\"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Den han snakker mest med </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">Stubbs nĂŠrmeste samtalepartner i Europa er imidlertid ikke medlem i EU:</strong></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Skal jeg trekke fram den europeiske lederen som jeg har mest kommunikasjon med, sĂ„ er det Jonas Gahr StĂžre, sier han.</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">StĂžre har ogsĂ„ bekreftet den tette kontakten med president Stubb. De snakker sammen eller utveksler SMS-er omtrent hver eneste dag.</p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_7\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Hvordan kan Norge vĂŠre pĂ„ innsiden av de store beslutningene i Europa uten Ă„ vĂŠre medlem i EU?</strong></em></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â EU-medlemskapet er en beslutning Norge selv mĂ„ ta, selv om jeg personlig skulle Ăžnske at Storbritannia Island og Norge var med. 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Jonas er svĂŠrt aktiv i utenriks- og sikkerhetspolitikken. Den interessen har vi begge som tidligere utenriksministre. Norge bidrar med Ăžkt sikkerhet for oss som nytt medlem i Nato. NĂ„ samarbeider Finland, Sverige og Norge mye tettere om forsvar.</p><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">SMS til Trump </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">SĂžndag 18. januar sendte StĂžre og Stubb en felles tekstmelding til Donald Trump. De ramset opp uenighet om GrĂžnland, Gaza, Ukraina og straffetoll, og ba om et snarlig mĂžte.</p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r188\" props=\"{"alt":[0],"caption":[0,"Foto: Hallgeir VĂ„genes / 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/96ce3533-6b7e-4dfe-904a-2b125daae56a?format=auto&w=1440&s=23ba348da58ebe99c99f035594b96743a9705d1e 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/96ce3533-6b7e-4dfe-904a-2b125daae56a?format=auto&w=2160&s=610205b1f750a102a1815aecd24ce4653b7eda5e 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"3647\"><figcaption class=\"text-sans-s _caption_qp4xg_10 layout-component\">Foto: Hallgeir VĂ„genes / VG</figcaption></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><a class=\"_link_o9xde_39\" data-track-element-type=\"Link\" data-track-id=\"link:q6AdB0\" href=\"/nyheter/i/q6AdB0/trump-i-melding-til-stoere-foeler-ikke-lenger-noen-forpliktelse\">27 minutter senere fikk StĂžre svar</a> fra Trump, som den amerikanske presidenten publiserte i sosiale medier: Ettersom Norge ikke ga Trump Nobels fredspris, var Trump ikke lengre forpliktet til Ă„ tenke fred alltid. Trump gjentok ogsĂ„ kravet om Ă„ overgi GrĂžnland til USA. </p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"FactBox\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/FactBox.3qMhHu30.js\" opts=\"{"name":"FactBox","value":true}\" prefix=\"r190\" props=\"{"component":[0,{"title":[0,{"value":[0,"Slik var SMS-utvekslingen "]}],"paragraphs":[1,[[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Tekstmelding fra statsminister StĂžre til president Trump 18. januar kl. 15:48: «Dear Mr president, dear Donald â on the contact across the Atlantic â on Greenland, Gaza, Ukraine â and your tariff announcement yesterday. You know our position on these issues. But we believe we all should work to take this down and de-escalate â so much is happening around us where we need to stand together. We are proposing a call with you later today â with both of us or separately â give us a hint of what you prefer! Best â Alex and Jonas»"],"markup":[1,[[0,{"type":[0,"style:em"],"offset":[0,80],"length":[0,448]}]]]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}],[0,{"text":[0,{"value":[0,"Tekstmelding fra president Trump til statsminister StĂžre 18. januar kl. 16:15: «Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a âright of ownershipâ anyway? There are no written documents, itâs only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT»"],"markup":[1,[[0,{"type":[0,"style:em"],"offset":[0,80],"length":[0,757]}]]]}],"blockType":[0,"paragraph"]}]]],"type":[0,"fact"]}],"type":[0,"feature"]}\" renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"aJa32\"><div class=\"_factbox_16v91_30 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded\"><section aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-label=\"Utvid\" class=\"_box_1mfx9_1 font-vg-sans layout-component layout-normal _box_16v91_39\" id=\"«r190R0»\" role=\"region\" style=\"max-height:var(--height)\"><h2 class=\"_title_16v91_25 title-serif-s\">Slik var SMS-utvekslingen </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Tekstmelding fra statsminister StĂžre til president Trump 18. januar kl. 15:48: «<em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\">Dear Mr president, dear Donald â on the contact across the Atlantic â on Greenland, Gaza, Ukraine â and your tariff announcement yesterday. You know our position on these issues. But we believe we all should work to take this down and de-escalate â so much is happening around us where we need to stand together. We are proposing a call with you later today â with both of us or separately â give us a hint of what you prefer! Best â Alex and Jonas</em>»</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 _paragraph_16v91_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-sans-m layout-padded\">Tekstmelding fra president Trump til statsminister StĂžre 18. januar kl. 16:15: «<em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\">Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a âright of ownershipâ anyway? There are no written documents, itâs only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT</em>»</p><button aria-controls=\"«r190R0»\" class=\"_button_6bkpv_2 button-label-large _hug_6bkpv_81 _filled_6bkpv_106 _button_1mfx9_76\" data-track-element-type=\"Factbox\" data-track-id=\"factbox:slik-var-sms-utvekslingen\" data-track-impression=\"true\" data-track-name=\"Slik var SMS-utvekslingen \" role=\"button\" type=\"button\"><span>Vis <!-- -->mer</span></button></section></div><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Jeg fikk den nĂžyaktig samme meldingen. Det sto «Dear Jonas» pĂ„ min ogsĂ„, bekrefter Stubb.</p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_8\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Vi melder ofte med Trump, og vi gjĂžr det sammen. Vi sender felles meldinger til andre europeiske ledere, til Ukrainas president Zelenskyj, forteller han.</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Alexander Stubb har ytterligere en relasjon til Donald Trump som StĂžre ikke har. </p><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Golf-mĂžtet </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">I sin ungdom var Stubb pĂ„ Finlands ungdomslandslag i golf. 29. mars i fjor gikk Stubb og Trump ut pĂ„ Trump International Golf Club i Florida. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Jeg fikk syv timer pĂ„ tomannshĂ„nd med USAs president, mer enn alle mine forgjengere til sammen. Jeg skal ikke overvurdere min relasjon med presidenten, men jeg mener det var vel anvendt tid.</p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r198\" props=\"{"alt":[0],"caption":[0,"Foto: Finnish Presidential Office via Instagram"],"device":[0],"editorialJudgment":[0],"imageAsset":[0,{"id":[0,"2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a"],"size":[0,{"width":[0,877],"height":[0,1170]}],"hotspot":[0,{"x":[0,213],"y":[0,76],"width":[0,427],"height":[0,320]}],"urls":[1,[[0,{"height":[0,53],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=40&s=38171b5210c29edf92548e140caf128dc87144d6"],"width":[0,40]}],[0,{"height":[0,107],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=80&s=c4d32ae9b0cbe6ee821b900f7cd9735e46ada8e1"],"width":[0,80]}],[0,{"height":[0,133],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=100&s=1fac5f0ff24d1c2dfdefcf6ae98fac0d7313e53a"],"width":[0,100]}],[0,{"height":[0,267],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=200&s=14c1dc3d3e3f16eeab079d32729d1cf28b1ef859"],"width":[0,200]}],[0,{"height":[0,320],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=240&s=2ed439ca0bf2359308bc0e7dd68a0742cbfc9aa3"],"width":[0,240]}],[0,{"height":[0,640],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=480&s=8cbf5bbf1d9021058197c164238b4a33243be41d"],"width":[0,480]}],[0,{"height":[0,774],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=580&s=c9d9b0861297248f3a59c2bc188999494fc6fa40"],"width":[0,580]}],[0,{"height":[0,961],"url":[0,"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=720&s=d35bf401e5e2642c590297506b41f922e8a91b40"],"width":[0,720]}]]]}],"layout":[0],"marginBottom":[0],"padded":[0],"type":[0,"feature"]}\" renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"ZhiJY5\"><figure class=\"_figure_qp4xg_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded\"><img alt=\"Foto: Finnish Presidential Office via Instagram\" class=\"_image_qp4xg_65 layout-component layout-normal\" data-fullscreen-sizes=\"(min-width: 1000px) 2000px, 2000vw\" data-track-element-type=\"Article image fullscreen\" data-track-name=\"ImageFullscreen\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"1170\" itemprop=\"image\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"(min-width: 980px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=40&s=38171b5210c29edf92548e140caf128dc87144d6\" srcset=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=40&s=38171b5210c29edf92548e140caf128dc87144d6 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=80&s=c4d32ae9b0cbe6ee821b900f7cd9735e46ada8e1 80w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=100&s=1fac5f0ff24d1c2dfdefcf6ae98fac0d7313e53a 100w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=200&s=14c1dc3d3e3f16eeab079d32729d1cf28b1ef859 200w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=240&s=2ed439ca0bf2359308bc0e7dd68a0742cbfc9aa3 240w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=480&s=8cbf5bbf1d9021058197c164238b4a33243be41d 480w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=580&s=c9d9b0861297248f3a59c2bc188999494fc6fa40 580w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/2ec32364-4ff2-4344-91d7-99895e25b19a?format=auto&w=720&s=d35bf401e5e2642c590297506b41f922e8a91b40 720w\" style=\"object-position:48.63169897377423% 20.17094017094017%\" width=\"877\"><figcaption class=\"text-sans-s _caption_qp4xg_10 layout-component\">Foto: Finnish Presidential Office via Instagram</figcaption></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">De var et <abbr class=\"_explanation_o9xde_140\" tabindex=\"0\" title=\"Stubb's medspillere er, ifĂžlge boken, senator Lindsey Graham, golflegenden Gary Player, Fox-anker Trey Gowdy og president Donald Trump.\">team pĂ„ fem<span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"text-sans-s _title_o9xde_151\" role=\"presentation\"><span class=\"text-serif-l _word_o9xde_156\">team pĂ„ fem</span>Stubb's medspillere er, ifĂžlge boken, senator Lindsey Graham, golflegenden Gary Player, Fox-anker Trey Gowdy og president Donald Trump.</span></abbr> og spilte «best ball», hvor de to beste scorene pĂ„ hvert hull talte. De vekslet mellom Ă„ score par og birdies. I en turnering med rundt 30 team, vant laget med de to presidentene. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Hva fikk du og Finland igjen for det?</strong></em></p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_9\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â I ettertid tekster vi, vi ringes og vi diskuterer. Jeg tror det har vĂŠrt nyttig ved at vi etterpĂ„ har solgt 11 isbrytere til USA. Det er lett Ă„ glemme at diplomati egentlig har to ben. Det ene er det mellomstatlige forholdet, interessebasert ut fra makt, kultur og historie. Det andre er personlig. Som Finlands president er det min jobb Ă„ ha et bra forhold til USAs president. Om jeg lanserer 10 ideer og han tar en av dem, da har jeg lyktes.</p><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Sier fra </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â PĂ„ grunn av ditt golfspill, er Finland pĂ„ et bedre sted enn andre europeiske land?</strong></em></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Vi har et omfattende forsvarssamarbeid med USA, basert pĂ„ gjensidig interesse. Andre saker vurderer vi ulikt: Vi tror pĂ„ EU, pĂ„ en liberal verdensorden, og pĂ„ klimatrusselen. Jeg sier fra om at vi er uenig om straffetoll. Samtidig er det i USAs interesse Ă„ trene soldater i Arktis, Ă„ samarbeide om teknologi fordi store deler av deres mobile nettverk er levert av Nokia, og Ă„ samarbeide om sjeldne mineraler. </p><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r206\" 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renderer-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/client.B4ukvwq6.js\" ssr uid=\"ZMhTBJ\"><figure class=\"_figure_qp4xg_1 layout-component layout-normal layout-padded\"><img alt=\"\" class=\"_image_qp4xg_65 layout-component layout-normal\" data-fullscreen-sizes=\"(min-width: 1000px) 2000px, 2000vw\" data-track-element-type=\"Article image fullscreen\" data-track-name=\"ImageFullscreen\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"5482\" itemprop=\"image\" loading=\"lazy\" sizes=\"(min-width: 980px) 980px, 100vw\" src=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=40&s=e0f6ceffc50c002f84229490ebeb7cb9b8d5ab47\" srcset=\"https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=40&s=e0f6ceffc50c002f84229490ebeb7cb9b8d5ab47 40w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=80&s=08d0331f1f3fbf77935b7ef83869c5f49e089624 80w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=100&s=8f217d18293cab647e07b8b4ab5415c757aa6be9 100w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=200&s=0af674794e575a7802d7b57745dcfca82eb27267 200w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=240&s=efab5bbffefbdb7d36830679e617d7c6da820ac8 240w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=480&s=7230a66103ca00495219a00db02e172c91c91afd 480w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=580&s=eeddc6e325d98bab35d69bb0194a574dc81dba91 580w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=720&s=47486cde660369d2212226da05173954bbc0c935 720w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=1080&s=d5cdc70fdc61a86e2a59449d7cdb46ff2667af42 1080w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=1440&s=0607397fe1c9c98ff643de77a48be60ea1fdbee0 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/43fc8625-793d-473f-a0ec-1d259bc7a6ed?format=auto&w=2160&s=88f022225cb160864e26509aa7d206a803977497 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"7309\"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Er det rom for kritikk?</strong></em></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Jeg er helt Ă„pen om at vi har et annet syn enn Trump i mange saker, som EU og klima. Derfor fungerer det. Jeg sender de samme analysene til Trump: Vi er hjertelig uenig med deg om straffetoll, for eksempel. USAs sikkerhetspolitikk er ogsĂ„ endret. Det er ikke lenger en-til-en med oss i Europa.</p><div class=\"responsive\"><astro-island await-children client=\"visible\" component-export=\"Image\" component-url=\"https://www.vg.no/vgc/cdn/vgno/assets/production/_astro/Image.CJXmAc3u.js\" opts=\"{"name":"Image","value":true}\" prefix=\"r209\" 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https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d832bfbc-4243-410b-b6d6-566dc7f023b7?format=auto&w=1440&s=88de16749f7789a3afc44d893d46b6f2894ef4fb 1440w, https://akamai.vgc.no/v2/images/d832bfbc-4243-410b-b6d6-566dc7f023b7?format=auto&w=2160&s=ba9a541817444331afe66c9177a721742ef54de9 2160w\" style=\"object-position:0% 0%\" width=\"4496\"></figure><!--astro:end--></astro-island></div><h2 class=\"_heading_o9xde_1 _heading_6fko5_1 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">Trump-hviskeren </h2><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">I et VG-intervju i 2024 fortalte Stubbs forgjenger Sauli Niinistö <a class=\"_link_o9xde_39\" data-track-element-type=\"Link\" data-track-id=\"link:O84KqO\" href=\"/nyheter/i/O84KqO/finlands-president-om-putin-samtalene-vi-burde-ha-forstaatt\">om sine samtaler med Vladimir Putin</a>, og hvordan han ble lĂžyet for i tiden fĂžr Putin beordret invasjonen i Ukraina. </p><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard-wrapper__article\"><div class=\"advertory-vg-netboard__article\" id=\"netboard_10\"></div></div><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">Niinistö ble kalt Putin-hviskeren. Stubb omtales nĂ„ som Trump-hviskeren.</strong></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Hva slags kontakt har du med Putin?</strong></em></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â Vi har ikke snakket sammen siden jeg ble president for to Ă„r siden. Finske myndigheter har kontakt pĂ„ lavere nivĂ„er med Russland om grensespĂžrsmĂ„l og annet praktisk. </p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><em class=\"_em_o9xde_35\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Vil du kunne ha tillit til Putin etter Ukraina-krigen?</strong></em></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â VĂ„r 1340 kilometer grense mot Russland, den gĂ„r ikke over. Ă
bygge tillit med Russland igjen kan ta flere tiĂ„r. Da er muligens dagens russiske ledere erstattet, og vi kan ikke vite hvordan de vil forholde seg til Finland.</p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\"><strong class=\"_strong_o9xde_25\">â Mange spĂ„r en massiv russisk opprustning mot Nato nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen tar slutt?</strong></p><p class=\"_paragraph_o9xde_4 _paragraph_6fko5_10 layout-component text-serif-m layout-normal text-serif-m layout-padded\">â I vĂ„r analyse er det selvsagt at vi vil ha flere russiske soldater nĂŠrt vĂ„re grenser nĂ„r Ukraina-krigen er over. Det er ikke noe nytt. Men Russland vet hvor sterkt vĂ„rt forsvar er. 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