EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein
Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.
Dette er et debattinnlegg som gir uttrykk for skribentens holdninger og meninger. Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.
Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi massearbeidsledighet, og vi vil bli utenforlandet i Europa.
Etter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».
Vi må få en debatt om norsk EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste 50 prosent nei, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.
Og det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.
Men da han kom til Davos, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «Trump always Chickens Out». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.
Ja-siden mener Nato er svekket, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både den politiske og den militære – sier noe annet.
Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.
Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.
Så påstås det at EU vil neglisjere Norge, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass?
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EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein
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Author: Odd E. Rambøl
Published: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
Updated: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
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Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.
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Dette er et debattinnlegg som gir uttrykk for skribentens holdninger og meninger. Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.
Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi massearbeidsledighet, og vi vil bli utenforlandet i Europa.
Etter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».
Vi må få en debatt om norsk EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste 50 prosent nei, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.
Og det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.
Men da han kom til Davos, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «Trump always Chickens Out». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.
Ja-siden mener Nato er svekket, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både den politiske og den militære – sier noe annet.
Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.
Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.
Så påstås det at EU vil neglisjere Norge, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass?
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<h1 class="headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>
<h2 class="subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>
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<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og
1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href="https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og
vi vil bli <a href="https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html">utenforlandet
i Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,
kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class="column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 " data-element-guid="7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064" data-image-float="floatRight" data-instance="10163233" data-section="nyheter" data-site-alias="dagsavisen" itemscope>
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<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk
EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i
gang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886">50
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<p>Og det var etter at
Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026">Men
da han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –
men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out">Trump always
Chickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det
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<p class="font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold" data-lab-font_weight="font-weight-bold">Ja-siden mener <a href="https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960">Nato er
svekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –
både <a href="https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/">den
politiske</a> og <a href="https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506">den
militære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU
av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse
krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er
et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en
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<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut
av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse
på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href="https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse">EU
vil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil
svekke forholdet til landet som <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/">dekker
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Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Vegard Grøtt / NTB</figcaption>\n </div>\n\n\n\n <p class=\"kicker t28 tertiary color_mobile_tertiary\" style=\"\">Debatt</p>\n <h1 class=\"headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>\n <h2 class=\"subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>\n\n\n\n <div class=\"meta\" data-element-guid=\"7ce9a5d5-61ec-40c4-f578-741643b3800f\">\n \n\n <div class=\"bylines\">\n <div class=\"byline column\" data-element-guid=\"ce43fcb6-7f8b-4883-b22c-2bdd1363e4fb\" itemscope itemtype=\"http://schema.org/Person\">\n \n <div class=\"content\">\n \n <address class=\"name\">\n\n <span class=\"lab-hidden-byline-name\" itemprop=\"name\">Odd E. 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Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.</span> </p><figure class=\"column desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight small-12 large-2 small-abs-12 large-abs-2\" data-element-guid=\"2dad9371-f480-4399-8a27-f011fe296d79\">\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"480\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"480\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"480\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Odd E. Rambøl.\" width=\"480\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">Odd E. Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Privat</figcaption>\n </div> </div>\n</figure>\n<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og\n1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href=\"https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf\">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og\nvi vil bli <a href=\"https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html\">utenforlandet\ni Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,\nkommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163233\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163233\" href=\"/nyheter/eu-derfor-snudde-ap-toppen-fra-nei-til-ja/10163233\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"30e350d2-859e-44f5-aad4-1f158f4306c1\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T06:00:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk\nEU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i\ngang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886\">50\nprosent nei</a>, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"9669aede-e14a-44dd-adee-55fcb261737d\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board1\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Og det var etter at\nTrump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026\">Men\nda han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –\nmen finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out\">Trump always\nChickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det\nmed TACO. </p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"b9508ad9-6623-4824-876f-bcb70b1783c4\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163054\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163054\" href=\"/nyheter/lo-smeller-dora-igjen-for-eu-debatt/10163054\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"5b450740-32cc-414c-8985-1e20274d22fd\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-22T14:03:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">Ja-siden mener <a href=\"https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960\">Nato er\nsvekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –\nbåde <a href=\"https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/\">den\npolitiske</a> og <a href=\"https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506\">den\nmilitære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU\nav sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse\nkrever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er\net «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en\neffektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"5097bf07-b2c1-4f60-a3d1-1098579e592b\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board2\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut\nav Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse\npå den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href=\"https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse\">EU\nvil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil\nsvekke forholdet til landet som <a href=\"https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/\">dekker\nen tredjedel av behovet deres for gass</a>?</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"8184c5ff-ad13-45ce-a1b9-e6c90a027eb8\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10170734\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10170734\" href=\"/debatt/bruk-kreftene-mot-hoyresiden/10170734\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T09:30:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"1e0e8d24-f950-4050-9233-61aac937744e\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10168728\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10168728\" href=\"/debatt/uforstaelig-at-eu-motstanden-er-sa-sterk/10168728\" 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-26T11:49:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n\n<!-- placeholder(#1) -->\n<div class=\"column articlescroller source_debatt-dagsavisen small-12 large-12 bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" data-element-guid=\"fe35c186-8010-4056-860d-4ea520912544\" id=\"article_list_10172484\" style=\"\">\n \n <div class=\"inner content fullwidthTarget\">\n \n <h2 class=\"articlescroller-header t32\" style=\"\">Mer debatt</h2>\n\n <ul class=\"scroll-container swipehelper snap-container-x snap-element-start articles count_4 \">\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/ma-vise-eu-at-vi-mener-alvor/10183192\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10183302.jpg?imageId=10183302&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Må vise EU at vi mener alvor</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/det-norske-film-paradokset/10182244\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10182254.jpg?imageId=10182254&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Det norske film-paradokset</h3>\n \n \n \n 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2026-02-03 11:28:11
EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein
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Author: Odd E. Rambøl
Published: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
Updated: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
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Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.
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Dette er et debattinnlegg som gir uttrykk for skribentens holdninger og meninger. Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.
Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi massearbeidsledighet, og vi vil bli utenforlandet i Europa.
Etter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».
Vi må få en debatt om norsk EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste 50 prosent nei, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.
Og det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.
Men da han kom til Davos, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «Trump always Chickens Out». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.
Ja-siden mener Nato er svekket, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både den politiske og den militære – sier noe annet.
Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.
Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.
Så påstås det at EU vil neglisjere Norge, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass?
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<h1 class="headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>
<h2 class="subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>
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<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og
1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href="https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og
vi vil bli <a href="https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html">utenforlandet
i Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,
kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class="column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 " data-element-guid="7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064" data-image-float="floatRight" data-instance="10163233" data-section="nyheter" data-site-alias="dagsavisen" itemscope>
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<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk
EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i
gang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886">50
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<p>Og det var etter at
Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026">Men
da han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –
men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out">Trump always
Chickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det
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<p class="font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold" data-lab-font_weight="font-weight-bold">Ja-siden mener <a href="https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960">Nato er
svekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –
både <a href="https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/">den
politiske</a> og <a href="https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506">den
militære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU
av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse
krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er
et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en
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<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut
av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse
på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href="https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse">EU
vil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil
svekke forholdet til landet som <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/">dekker
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Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Vegard Grøtt / NTB</figcaption>\n </div>\n\n\n\n <p class=\"kicker t28 tertiary color_mobile_tertiary\" style=\"\">Debatt</p>\n <h1 class=\"headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>\n <h2 class=\"subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>\n\n\n\n <div class=\"meta\" data-element-guid=\"6f196fde-b43f-4ce9-baea-9b6797683940\">\n \n\n <div class=\"bylines\">\n <div class=\"byline column\" data-element-guid=\"ce43fcb6-7f8b-4883-b22c-2bdd1363e4fb\" itemscope itemtype=\"http://schema.org/Person\">\n \n <div class=\"content\">\n \n <address class=\"name\">\n\n <span class=\"lab-hidden-byline-name\" itemprop=\"name\">Odd E. 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Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.</span> </p><figure class=\"column desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight small-12 large-2 small-abs-12 large-abs-2\" data-element-guid=\"2dad9371-f480-4399-8a27-f011fe296d79\">\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"480\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"480\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"480\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Odd E. Rambøl.\" width=\"480\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">Odd E. Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Privat</figcaption>\n </div> </div>\n</figure>\n<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og\n1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href=\"https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf\">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og\nvi vil bli <a href=\"https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html\">utenforlandet\ni Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,\nkommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163233\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163233\" href=\"/nyheter/eu-derfor-snudde-ap-toppen-fra-nei-til-ja/10163233\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"30e350d2-859e-44f5-aad4-1f158f4306c1\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T06:00:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk\nEU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i\ngang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886\">50\nprosent nei</a>, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"09787010-67bf-4d7a-914e-dc746ec5d481\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board1\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Og det var etter at\nTrump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026\">Men\nda han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –\nmen finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out\">Trump always\nChickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det\nmed TACO. </p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"b9508ad9-6623-4824-876f-bcb70b1783c4\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163054\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163054\" href=\"/nyheter/lo-smeller-dora-igjen-for-eu-debatt/10163054\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"5b450740-32cc-414c-8985-1e20274d22fd\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-22T14:03:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">Ja-siden mener <a href=\"https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960\">Nato er\nsvekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –\nbåde <a href=\"https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/\">den\npolitiske</a> og <a href=\"https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506\">den\nmilitære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU\nav sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse\nkrever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er\net «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en\neffektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"4712c1b2-831d-4cab-f2e8-23ac3b20b6f3\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board2\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut\nav Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse\npå den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href=\"https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse\">EU\nvil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil\nsvekke forholdet til landet som <a href=\"https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/\">dekker\nen tredjedel av behovet deres for gass</a>?</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"8184c5ff-ad13-45ce-a1b9-e6c90a027eb8\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10170734\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10170734\" href=\"/debatt/bruk-kreftene-mot-hoyresiden/10170734\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T09:30:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"1e0e8d24-f950-4050-9233-61aac937744e\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10168728\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10168728\" href=\"/debatt/uforstaelig-at-eu-motstanden-er-sa-sterk/10168728\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"5e42b5e5-98c8-4d4b-b7ea-765d4f6a0fdf\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-26T11:49:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n\n<!-- placeholder(#1) -->\n<div class=\"column articlescroller source_debatt-dagsavisen small-12 large-12 bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" data-element-guid=\"fe35c186-8010-4056-860d-4ea520912544\" id=\"article_list_10172484\" style=\"\">\n \n <div class=\"inner content fullwidthTarget\">\n \n <h2 class=\"articlescroller-header t32\" style=\"\">Mer debatt</h2>\n\n <ul class=\"scroll-container swipehelper snap-container-x snap-element-start articles count_4 \">\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/det-norske-film-paradokset/10182244\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10182254.jpg?imageId=10182254&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Det norske film-paradokset</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/det-er-velferds-slutt-pakket-inn-i-fine-ord/10182108\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10182162.jpg?imageId=10182162&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Det er velferds-slutt, pakket inn i fine ord</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/la-postbudet-bli-en-del-av-eldreomsorgen/10181577\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10181584.jpg?imageId=10181584&panox=0.00&panoy=20.83&panow=100.00&panoh=71.67&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>La postbudet bli en del av eldreomsorgen</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/familien-pa-sykehjemmet/10180858\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" 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2026-02-03 08:19:21
EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein
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Author: Odd E. Rambøl
Published: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
Updated: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
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Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.
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Dette er et debattinnlegg som gir uttrykk for skribentens holdninger og meninger. Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.
Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi massearbeidsledighet, og vi vil bli utenforlandet i Europa.
Etter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».
Vi må få en debatt om norsk EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste 50 prosent nei, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.
Og det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.
Men da han kom til Davos, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «Trump always Chickens Out». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.
Ja-siden mener Nato er svekket, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både den politiske og den militære – sier noe annet.
Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.
Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.
Så påstås det at EU vil neglisjere Norge, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass?
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<h1 class="headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>
<h2 class="subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>
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<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og
1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href="https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og
vi vil bli <a href="https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html">utenforlandet
i Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,
kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class="column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 " data-element-guid="7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064" data-image-float="floatRight" data-instance="10163233" data-section="nyheter" data-site-alias="dagsavisen" itemscope>
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<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk
EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i
gang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886">50
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<p>Og det var etter at
Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026">Men
da han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –
men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out">Trump always
Chickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det
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<p class="font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold" data-lab-font_weight="font-weight-bold">Ja-siden mener <a href="https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960">Nato er
svekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –
både <a href="https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/">den
politiske</a> og <a href="https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506">den
militære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU
av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse
krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er
et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en
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<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut
av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse
på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href="https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse">EU
vil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil
svekke forholdet til landet som <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/">dekker
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Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Vegard Grøtt / NTB</figcaption>\n </div>\n\n\n\n <p class=\"kicker t28 tertiary color_mobile_tertiary\" style=\"\">Debatt</p>\n <h1 class=\"headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>\n <h2 class=\"subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>\n\n\n\n <div class=\"meta\" data-element-guid=\"97e27fa3-f31c-41d9-82c3-93651e511d06\">\n \n\n <div class=\"bylines\">\n <div class=\"byline column\" data-element-guid=\"ce43fcb6-7f8b-4883-b22c-2bdd1363e4fb\" itemscope itemtype=\"http://schema.org/Person\">\n \n <div class=\"content\">\n \n <address class=\"name\">\n\n <span class=\"lab-hidden-byline-name\" itemprop=\"name\">Odd E. 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Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.</span> </p><figure class=\"column desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight small-12 large-2 small-abs-12 large-abs-2\" data-element-guid=\"2dad9371-f480-4399-8a27-f011fe296d79\">\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"480\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"480\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"480\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Odd E. Rambøl.\" width=\"480\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">Odd E. Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Privat</figcaption>\n </div> </div>\n</figure>\n<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og\n1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href=\"https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf\">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og\nvi vil bli <a href=\"https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html\">utenforlandet\ni Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,\nkommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163233\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163233\" href=\"/nyheter/eu-derfor-snudde-ap-toppen-fra-nei-til-ja/10163233\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"30e350d2-859e-44f5-aad4-1f158f4306c1\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T06:00:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk\nEU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i\ngang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886\">50\nprosent nei</a>, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"d5025f99-6a77-4523-b9e6-541a7fef346c\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board1\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Og det var etter at\nTrump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026\">Men\nda han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –\nmen finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out\">Trump always\nChickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det\nmed TACO. </p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"b9508ad9-6623-4824-876f-bcb70b1783c4\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163054\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163054\" href=\"/nyheter/lo-smeller-dora-igjen-for-eu-debatt/10163054\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"5b450740-32cc-414c-8985-1e20274d22fd\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-22T14:03:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">Ja-siden mener <a href=\"https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960\">Nato er\nsvekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –\nbåde <a href=\"https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/\">den\npolitiske</a> og <a href=\"https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506\">den\nmilitære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU\nav sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse\nkrever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er\net «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en\neffektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"ea0bbcd2-1143-454e-8306-c5aeb2069a9c\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board2\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut\nav Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse\npå den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href=\"https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse\">EU\nvil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil\nsvekke forholdet til landet som <a href=\"https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/\">dekker\nen tredjedel av behovet deres for gass</a>?</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"8184c5ff-ad13-45ce-a1b9-e6c90a027eb8\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10170734\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10170734\" href=\"/debatt/bruk-kreftene-mot-hoyresiden/10170734\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T09:30:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"1e0e8d24-f950-4050-9233-61aac937744e\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10168728\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10168728\" href=\"/debatt/uforstaelig-at-eu-motstanden-er-sa-sterk/10168728\" 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-26T11:49:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n\n<!-- placeholder(#1) -->\n<div class=\"column articlescroller source_debatt-dagsavisen small-12 large-12 bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" data-element-guid=\"fe35c186-8010-4056-860d-4ea520912544\" id=\"article_list_10172484\" style=\"\">\n \n <div class=\"inner content fullwidthTarget\">\n \n <h2 class=\"articlescroller-header t32\" style=\"\">Mer debatt</h2>\n\n <ul class=\"scroll-container swipehelper snap-container-x snap-element-start articles count_4 \">\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/la-postbudet-bli-en-del-av-eldreomsorgen/10181577\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10181584.jpg?imageId=10181584&panox=0.00&panoy=20.83&panow=100.00&panoh=71.67&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>La postbudet bli en del av eldreomsorgen</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/familien-pa-sykehjemmet/10180858\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10180895.jpg?imageId=10180895&panox=0.00&panoy=9.18&panow=100.00&panoh=81.65&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" 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2026-02-03 05:54:10
EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein
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Author: Odd E. Rambøl
Published: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
Updated: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
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Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.
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Dette er et debattinnlegg som gir uttrykk for skribentens holdninger og meninger. Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.
Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi massearbeidsledighet, og vi vil bli utenforlandet i Europa.
Etter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».
Vi må få en debatt om norsk EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste 50 prosent nei, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.
Og det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.
Men da han kom til Davos, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «Trump always Chickens Out». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.
Ja-siden mener Nato er svekket, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både den politiske og den militære – sier noe annet.
Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.
Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.
Så påstås det at EU vil neglisjere Norge, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass?
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<h1 class="headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>
<h2 class="subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>
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<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og
1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href="https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og
vi vil bli <a href="https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html">utenforlandet
i Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,
kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class="column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 " data-element-guid="7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064" data-image-float="floatRight" data-instance="10163233" data-section="nyheter" data-site-alias="dagsavisen" itemscope>
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<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk
EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i
gang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886">50
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<p>Og det var etter at
Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026">Men
da han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –
men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out">Trump always
Chickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det
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<p class="font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold" data-lab-font_weight="font-weight-bold">Ja-siden mener <a href="https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960">Nato er
svekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –
både <a href="https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/">den
politiske</a> og <a href="https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506">den
militære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU
av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse
krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er
et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en
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<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut
av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse
på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href="https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse">EU
vil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil
svekke forholdet til landet som <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/">dekker
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Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Vegard Grøtt / NTB</figcaption>\n </div>\n\n\n\n <p class=\"kicker t28 tertiary color_mobile_tertiary\" style=\"\">Debatt</p>\n <h1 class=\"headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>\n <h2 class=\"subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>\n\n\n\n <div class=\"meta\" data-element-guid=\"d72742b7-be53-4e96-94af-9057e526f46e\">\n \n\n <div class=\"bylines\">\n <div class=\"byline column\" data-element-guid=\"ce43fcb6-7f8b-4883-b22c-2bdd1363e4fb\" itemscope itemtype=\"http://schema.org/Person\">\n \n <div class=\"content\">\n \n <address class=\"name\">\n\n <span class=\"lab-hidden-byline-name\" itemprop=\"name\">Odd E. 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Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.</span> </p><figure class=\"column desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight small-12 large-2 small-abs-12 large-abs-2\" data-element-guid=\"2dad9371-f480-4399-8a27-f011fe296d79\">\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"480\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"480\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"480\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Odd E. Rambøl.\" width=\"480\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">Odd E. Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Privat</figcaption>\n </div> </div>\n</figure>\n<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og\n1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href=\"https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf\">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og\nvi vil bli <a href=\"https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html\">utenforlandet\ni Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,\nkommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163233\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163233\" href=\"/nyheter/eu-derfor-snudde-ap-toppen-fra-nei-til-ja/10163233\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"30e350d2-859e-44f5-aad4-1f158f4306c1\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T06:00:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk\nEU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i\ngang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886\">50\nprosent nei</a>, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"eec07741-a633-43ab-cb29-2e3aed5693aa\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board1\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Og det var etter at\nTrump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026\">Men\nda han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –\nmen finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out\">Trump always\nChickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det\nmed TACO. </p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"b9508ad9-6623-4824-876f-bcb70b1783c4\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163054\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163054\" href=\"/nyheter/lo-smeller-dora-igjen-for-eu-debatt/10163054\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"5b450740-32cc-414c-8985-1e20274d22fd\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-22T14:03:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">Ja-siden mener <a href=\"https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960\">Nato er\nsvekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –\nbåde <a href=\"https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/\">den\npolitiske</a> og <a href=\"https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506\">den\nmilitære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU\nav sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse\nkrever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er\net «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en\neffektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"b855934e-4958-417b-f82a-0c4e77a7f930\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board2\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut\nav Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse\npå den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href=\"https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse\">EU\nvil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil\nsvekke forholdet til landet som <a href=\"https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/\">dekker\nen tredjedel av behovet deres for gass</a>?</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"8184c5ff-ad13-45ce-a1b9-e6c90a027eb8\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10170734\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10170734\" href=\"/debatt/bruk-kreftene-mot-hoyresiden/10170734\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T09:30:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"1e0e8d24-f950-4050-9233-61aac937744e\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10168728\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10168728\" href=\"/debatt/uforstaelig-at-eu-motstanden-er-sa-sterk/10168728\" 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-26T11:49:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n\n<!-- placeholder(#1) -->\n<div class=\"column articlescroller source_debatt-dagsavisen small-12 large-12 bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" data-element-guid=\"fe35c186-8010-4056-860d-4ea520912544\" id=\"article_list_10172484\" style=\"\">\n \n <div class=\"inner content fullwidthTarget\">\n \n <h2 class=\"articlescroller-header t32\" style=\"\">Mer debatt</h2>\n\n <ul class=\"scroll-container swipehelper snap-container-x snap-element-start articles count_4 \">\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/familien-pa-sykehjemmet/10180858\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10180895.jpg?imageId=10180895&panox=0.00&panoy=9.18&panow=100.00&panoh=81.65&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Familien på sykehjemmet</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/nar-forutsigbarhet-settes-til-side-et-varsku-for-norsk-industri/10181500\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10181529.jpg?imageId=10181529&panox=0.00&panoy=24.56&panow=100.00&panoh=75.44&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Når forutsigbarhet 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2026-02-02 20:08:55
EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein
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Author: Odd E. Rambøl
Published: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
Updated: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
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Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.
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Dette er et debattinnlegg som gir uttrykk for skribentens holdninger og meninger. Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.
Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi massearbeidsledighet, og vi vil bli utenforlandet i Europa.
Etter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».
Vi må få en debatt om norsk EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste 50 prosent nei, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.
Og det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.
Men da han kom til Davos, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «Trump always Chickens Out». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.
Ja-siden mener Nato er svekket, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både den politiske og den militære – sier noe annet.
Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.
Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.
Så påstås det at EU vil neglisjere Norge, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass?
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"content" : "Dette er et debattinnlegg som gir uttrykk for skribentens holdninger og meninger. Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.\n\nSå er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja\\-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi [massearbeidsledighet](https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf), og vi vil bli [utenforlandet i Europa](https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html).\n\nEtter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».\n\nVi må få en debatt om norsk EU\\-medlemskap, sier ja\\-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste [50 prosent nei](https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886), 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.\n\nOg det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.\n\n[Men da han kom til Davos](https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026), slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO\\-versjon: «[Trump always Chickens Out](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out)». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.\n\nJa\\-siden mener [Nato er svekket](https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960), og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både [den politiske](https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/) og [den militære](https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506) – sier noe annet.\n\nDet å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.\n\nSelv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.\n\nSå påstås det at [EU vil neglisjere Norge](https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse), behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som [dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass](https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/)?\n\n## Mer debatt\n\n- [ Når forutsigbarhet settes til side – et varsku for norsk industri ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/nar-forutsigbarhet-settes-til-side-et-varsku-for-norsk-industri/10181500)\n- [ En virkelighetsfjern analyse av det iranske regimets overlevelse ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/en-virkelighetsfjern-analyse-av-det-iranske-regimets-overlevelse/10181009)\n- [ Venstres miljøbløff ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/venstres-miljobloff-dyrere-kollektivpriser-og-billigere-parkering/10180969)\n- [ Vinsnobber i Dagsavisen? ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/vinsnobber-i-dagsavisen/10180438)\n- [ Kutt i forebygging vil straffe seg ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/kutt-i-forebygging-vil-straffe-seg/10180259)\n- [ Hurtige teknologiskifter krever rask tilpasning ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/hurtige-teknologiskifter-krever-rask-hms-tilpasning/10180139)\n- [ På tide å ta innover seg realitetene, Trædal ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/pa-tide-a-ta-innover-seg-realitetene-traedal/10178797)\n- [ En navers klagesang ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/en-navers-klagesang/10171968)\n- [ Midtøsten får ikke fred ved å overse sitt største mindretall ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/midtosten-far-ikke-fred-ved-a-overse-sitt-storste-mindretall/10175310)\n- [ Rasisme med politisk ryggdekning ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/rasisme-med-politisk-ryggdekning/10176722)",
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<h1 class="headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>
<h2 class="subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>
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<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og
1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href="https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og
vi vil bli <a href="https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html">utenforlandet
i Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,
kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class="column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 " data-element-guid="7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064" data-image-float="floatRight" data-instance="10163233" data-section="nyheter" data-site-alias="dagsavisen" itemscope>
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<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk
EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i
gang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886">50
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<p>Og det var etter at
Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026">Men
da han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –
men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out">Trump always
Chickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det
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<p class="font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold" data-lab-font_weight="font-weight-bold">Ja-siden mener <a href="https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960">Nato er
svekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –
både <a href="https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/">den
politiske</a> og <a href="https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506">den
militære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU
av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse
krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er
et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en
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<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut
av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse
på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href="https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse">EU
vil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil
svekke forholdet til landet som <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/">dekker
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Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Vegard Grøtt / NTB</figcaption>\n </div>\n\n\n\n <p class=\"kicker t28 tertiary color_mobile_tertiary\" style=\"\">Debatt</p>\n <h1 class=\"headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>\n <h2 class=\"subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>\n\n\n\n <div class=\"meta\" data-element-guid=\"255efd00-e169-49ab-c27b-509d7bd70b3f\">\n \n\n <div class=\"bylines\">\n <div class=\"byline column\" data-element-guid=\"ce43fcb6-7f8b-4883-b22c-2bdd1363e4fb\" itemscope itemtype=\"http://schema.org/Person\">\n \n <div class=\"content\">\n \n <address class=\"name\">\n\n <span class=\"lab-hidden-byline-name\" itemprop=\"name\">Odd E. 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Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.</span> </p><figure class=\"column desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight small-12 large-2 small-abs-12 large-abs-2\" data-element-guid=\"2dad9371-f480-4399-8a27-f011fe296d79\">\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"480\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"480\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"480\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Odd E. Rambøl.\" width=\"480\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">Odd E. Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Privat</figcaption>\n </div> </div>\n</figure>\n<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og\n1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href=\"https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf\">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og\nvi vil bli <a href=\"https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html\">utenforlandet\ni Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,\nkommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163233\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163233\" href=\"/nyheter/eu-derfor-snudde-ap-toppen-fra-nei-til-ja/10163233\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"30e350d2-859e-44f5-aad4-1f158f4306c1\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T06:00:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk\nEU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i\ngang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886\">50\nprosent nei</a>, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"b0a1067e-b244-41db-b8e0-80c6c2c702ee\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board1\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Og det var etter at\nTrump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026\">Men\nda han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –\nmen finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out\">Trump always\nChickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det\nmed TACO. </p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"b9508ad9-6623-4824-876f-bcb70b1783c4\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163054\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163054\" href=\"/nyheter/lo-smeller-dora-igjen-for-eu-debatt/10163054\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"5b450740-32cc-414c-8985-1e20274d22fd\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-22T14:03:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">Ja-siden mener <a href=\"https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960\">Nato er\nsvekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –\nbåde <a href=\"https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/\">den\npolitiske</a> og <a href=\"https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506\">den\nmilitære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU\nav sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse\nkrever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er\net «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en\neffektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"3b1df63b-6200-4b96-f7fe-89f1aebfa5d7\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board2\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut\nav Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse\npå den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href=\"https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse\">EU\nvil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil\nsvekke forholdet til landet som <a href=\"https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/\">dekker\nen tredjedel av behovet deres for gass</a>?</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"8184c5ff-ad13-45ce-a1b9-e6c90a027eb8\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10170734\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10170734\" href=\"/debatt/bruk-kreftene-mot-hoyresiden/10170734\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T09:30:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"1e0e8d24-f950-4050-9233-61aac937744e\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10168728\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10168728\" href=\"/debatt/uforstaelig-at-eu-motstanden-er-sa-sterk/10168728\" 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-26T11:49:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n\n<!-- placeholder(#1) -->\n<div class=\"column articlescroller source_debatt-dagsavisen small-12 large-12 bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" data-element-guid=\"fe35c186-8010-4056-860d-4ea520912544\" id=\"article_list_10172484\" style=\"\">\n \n <div class=\"inner content fullwidthTarget\">\n \n <h2 class=\"articlescroller-header t32\" style=\"\">Mer debatt</h2>\n\n <ul class=\"scroll-container swipehelper snap-container-x snap-element-start articles count_4 \">\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/nar-forutsigbarhet-settes-til-side-et-varsku-for-norsk-industri/10181500\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10181529.jpg?imageId=10181529&panox=0.00&panoy=24.56&panow=100.00&panoh=75.44&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Når forutsigbarhet settes til side – et varsku for norsk industri</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/en-virkelighetsfjern-analyse-av-det-iranske-regimets-overlevelse/10181009\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10181111.jpg?imageId=10181111&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>En virkelighetsfjern analyse av det iranske regimets overlevelse</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/venstres-miljobloff-dyrere-kollektivpriser-og-billigere-parkering/10180969\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10181039.jpg?imageId=10181039&panox=0.00&panoy=11.39&panow=100.00&panoh=71.67&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Venstres miljøbløff</h3>\n 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EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein
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Author: Odd E. Rambøl
Published: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
Updated: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
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Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.
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Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi massearbeidsledighet, og vi vil bli utenforlandet i Europa.
Etter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».
Vi må få en debatt om norsk EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste 50 prosent nei, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.
Og det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.
Men da han kom til Davos, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «Trump always Chickens Out». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.
Ja-siden mener Nato er svekket, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både den politiske og den militære – sier noe annet.
Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.
Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.
Så påstås det at EU vil neglisjere Norge, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass?
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"content" : "Dette er et debattinnlegg som gir uttrykk for skribentens holdninger og meninger. Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.\n\nSå er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja\\-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi [massearbeidsledighet](https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf), og vi vil bli [utenforlandet i Europa](https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html).\n\nEtter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».\n\nVi må få en debatt om norsk EU\\-medlemskap, sier ja\\-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste [50 prosent nei](https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886), 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.\n\nOg det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.\n\n[Men da han kom til Davos](https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026), slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO\\-versjon: «[Trump always Chickens Out](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out)». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.\n\nJa\\-siden mener [Nato er svekket](https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960), og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både [den politiske](https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/) og [den militære](https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506) – sier noe annet.\n\nDet å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.\n\nSelv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.\n\nSå påstås det at [EU vil neglisjere Norge](https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse), behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som [dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass](https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/)?\n\n## Mer debatt\n\n- [ En virkelighetsfjern analyse av det iranske regimets overlevelse ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/en-virkelighetsfjern-analyse-av-det-iranske-regimets-overlevelse/10181009)\n- [ Venstres miljøbløff ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/venstres-miljobloff-dyrere-kollektivpriser-og-billigere-parkering/10180969)\n- [ Vinsnobber i Dagsavisen? ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/vinsnobber-i-dagsavisen/10180438)\n- [ Kutt i forebygging vil straffe seg ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/kutt-i-forebygging-vil-straffe-seg/10180259)\n- [ Hurtige teknologiskifter krever rask tilpasning ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/hurtige-teknologiskifter-krever-rask-hms-tilpasning/10180139)\n- [ På tide å ta innover seg realitetene, Trædal ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/pa-tide-a-ta-innover-seg-realitetene-traedal/10178797)\n- [ En navers klagesang ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/en-navers-klagesang/10171968)\n- [ Midtøsten får ikke fred ved å overse sitt største mindretall ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/midtosten-far-ikke-fred-ved-a-overse-sitt-storste-mindretall/10175310)\n- [ Rasisme med politisk ryggdekning ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/rasisme-med-politisk-ryggdekning/10176722)\n- [ EU\\-debatten: Underlig omtale av våre naboer og venner ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/eu-debatten-underlig-omtale-av-vare-naboer-og-venner/10175079)",
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<h1 class="headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>
<h2 class="subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>
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<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og
1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href="https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og
vi vil bli <a href="https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html">utenforlandet
i Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,
kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class="column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 " data-element-guid="7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064" data-image-float="floatRight" data-instance="10163233" data-section="nyheter" data-site-alias="dagsavisen" itemscope>
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<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk
EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i
gang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886">50
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<p>Og det var etter at
Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026">Men
da han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –
men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out">Trump always
Chickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det
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<p class="font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold" data-lab-font_weight="font-weight-bold">Ja-siden mener <a href="https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960">Nato er
svekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –
både <a href="https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/">den
politiske</a> og <a href="https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506">den
militære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU
av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse
krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er
et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en
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<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut
av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse
på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href="https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse">EU
vil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil
svekke forholdet til landet som <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/">dekker
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Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Vegard Grøtt / NTB</figcaption>\n </div>\n\n\n\n <p class=\"kicker t28 tertiary color_mobile_tertiary\" style=\"\">Debatt</p>\n <h1 class=\"headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>\n <h2 class=\"subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>\n\n\n\n <div class=\"meta\" data-element-guid=\"371b26c5-dc33-4048-b4bc-c96d1b58629a\">\n \n\n <div class=\"bylines\">\n <div class=\"byline column\" data-element-guid=\"ce43fcb6-7f8b-4883-b22c-2bdd1363e4fb\" itemscope itemtype=\"http://schema.org/Person\">\n \n <div class=\"content\">\n \n <address class=\"name\">\n\n <span class=\"lab-hidden-byline-name\" itemprop=\"name\">Odd E. 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Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.</span> </p><figure class=\"column desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight small-12 large-2 small-abs-12 large-abs-2\" data-element-guid=\"2dad9371-f480-4399-8a27-f011fe296d79\">\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"480\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"480\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"480\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Odd E. Rambøl.\" width=\"480\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">Odd E. Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Privat</figcaption>\n </div> </div>\n</figure>\n<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og\n1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href=\"https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf\">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og\nvi vil bli <a href=\"https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html\">utenforlandet\ni Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,\nkommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163233\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163233\" href=\"/nyheter/eu-derfor-snudde-ap-toppen-fra-nei-til-ja/10163233\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"30e350d2-859e-44f5-aad4-1f158f4306c1\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T06:00:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk\nEU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i\ngang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886\">50\nprosent nei</a>, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"5e7406cb-c8f9-437a-8196-6b4639444f4f\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board1\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Og det var etter at\nTrump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026\">Men\nda han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –\nmen finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out\">Trump always\nChickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det\nmed TACO. </p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"b9508ad9-6623-4824-876f-bcb70b1783c4\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163054\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163054\" href=\"/nyheter/lo-smeller-dora-igjen-for-eu-debatt/10163054\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"5b450740-32cc-414c-8985-1e20274d22fd\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-22T14:03:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">Ja-siden mener <a href=\"https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960\">Nato er\nsvekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –\nbåde <a href=\"https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/\">den\npolitiske</a> og <a href=\"https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506\">den\nmilitære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU\nav sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse\nkrever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er\net «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en\neffektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"ce0abf53-2172-470c-ab1e-4ccdf3e82f26\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board2\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut\nav Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse\npå den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href=\"https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse\">EU\nvil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil\nsvekke forholdet til landet som <a href=\"https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/\">dekker\nen tredjedel av behovet deres for gass</a>?</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"8184c5ff-ad13-45ce-a1b9-e6c90a027eb8\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10170734\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10170734\" href=\"/debatt/bruk-kreftene-mot-hoyresiden/10170734\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T09:30:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"1e0e8d24-f950-4050-9233-61aac937744e\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10168728\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10168728\" href=\"/debatt/uforstaelig-at-eu-motstanden-er-sa-sterk/10168728\" 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-26T11:49:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n\n<!-- placeholder(#1) -->\n<div class=\"column articlescroller source_debatt-dagsavisen small-12 large-12 bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" data-element-guid=\"fe35c186-8010-4056-860d-4ea520912544\" id=\"article_list_10172484\" style=\"\">\n \n <div class=\"inner content fullwidthTarget\">\n \n <h2 class=\"articlescroller-header t32\" style=\"\">Mer debatt</h2>\n\n <ul class=\"scroll-container swipehelper snap-container-x snap-element-start articles count_4 \">\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/en-virkelighetsfjern-analyse-av-det-iranske-regimets-overlevelse/10181009\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10181111.jpg?imageId=10181111&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>En virkelighetsfjern analyse av det iranske regimets overlevelse</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/venstres-miljobloff-dyrere-kollektivpriser-og-billigere-parkering/10180969\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10181039.jpg?imageId=10181039&panox=0.00&panoy=11.39&panow=100.00&panoh=71.67&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Venstres miljøbløff</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/vinsnobber-i-dagsavisen/10180438\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10180509.jpg?imageId=10180509&panox=0.00&panoy=12.17&panow=100.00&panoh=33.77&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Vinsnobber i Dagsavisen?</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column 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EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein
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Author: Odd E. Rambøl
Published: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
Updated: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
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Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.
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Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi massearbeidsledighet, og vi vil bli utenforlandet i Europa.
Etter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».
Vi må få en debatt om norsk EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste 50 prosent nei, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.
Og det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.
Men da han kom til Davos, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «Trump always Chickens Out». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.
Ja-siden mener Nato er svekket, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både den politiske og den militære – sier noe annet.
Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.
Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.
Så påstås det at EU vil neglisjere Norge, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass?
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"content" : "Dette er et debattinnlegg som gir uttrykk for skribentens holdninger og meninger. Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.\n\nSå er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja\\-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi [massearbeidsledighet](https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf), og vi vil bli [utenforlandet i Europa](https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html).\n\nEtter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».\n\nVi må få en debatt om norsk EU\\-medlemskap, sier ja\\-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste [50 prosent nei](https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886), 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.\n\nOg det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.\n\n[Men da han kom til Davos](https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026), slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO\\-versjon: «[Trump always Chickens Out](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out)». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.\n\nJa\\-siden mener [Nato er svekket](https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960), og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både [den politiske](https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/) og [den militære](https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506) – sier noe annet.\n\nDet å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.\n\nSelv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.\n\nSå påstås det at [EU vil neglisjere Norge](https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse), behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som [dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass](https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/)?\n\n## Mer debatt\n\n- [ Venstres miljøbløff ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/venstres-miljobloff-dyrere-kollektivpriser-og-billigere-parkering/10180969)\n- [ Vinsnobber i Dagsavisen? ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/vinsnobber-i-dagsavisen/10180438)\n- [ Kutt i forebygging vil straffe seg ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/kutt-i-forebygging-vil-straffe-seg/10180259)\n- [ Hurtige teknologiskifter krever rask tilpasning ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/hurtige-teknologiskifter-krever-rask-hms-tilpasning/10180139)\n- [ På tide å ta innover seg realitetene, Trædal ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/pa-tide-a-ta-innover-seg-realitetene-traedal/10178797)\n- [ En navers klagesang ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/en-navers-klagesang/10171968)\n- [ Midtøsten får ikke fred ved å overse sitt største mindretall ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/midtosten-far-ikke-fred-ved-a-overse-sitt-storste-mindretall/10175310)\n- [ Rasisme med politisk ryggdekning ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/rasisme-med-politisk-ryggdekning/10176722)\n- [ EU\\-debatten: Underlig omtale av våre naboer og venner ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/eu-debatten-underlig-omtale-av-vare-naboer-og-venner/10175079)\n- [ Når «laget rundt barnet» stopper ved skoleporten ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/nar-laget-rundt-barnet-stopper-ved-skoleporten/10173154)",
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<h1 class="headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>
<h2 class="subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>
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<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og
1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href="https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og
vi vil bli <a href="https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html">utenforlandet
i Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,
kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class="column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 " data-element-guid="7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064" data-image-float="floatRight" data-instance="10163233" data-section="nyheter" data-site-alias="dagsavisen" itemscope>
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<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk
EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i
gang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886">50
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<p>Og det var etter at
Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026">Men
da han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –
men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out">Trump always
Chickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det
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<p class="font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold" data-lab-font_weight="font-weight-bold">Ja-siden mener <a href="https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960">Nato er
svekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –
både <a href="https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/">den
politiske</a> og <a href="https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506">den
militære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU
av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse
krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er
et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en
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<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut
av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse
på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href="https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse">EU
vil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil
svekke forholdet til landet som <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/">dekker
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Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Vegard Grøtt / NTB</figcaption>\n </div>\n\n\n\n <p class=\"kicker t28 tertiary color_mobile_tertiary\" style=\"\">Debatt</p>\n <h1 class=\"headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>\n <h2 class=\"subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>\n\n\n\n <div class=\"meta\" data-element-guid=\"371b26c5-dc33-4048-b4bc-c96d1b58629a\">\n \n\n <div class=\"bylines\">\n <div class=\"byline column\" data-element-guid=\"ce43fcb6-7f8b-4883-b22c-2bdd1363e4fb\" itemscope itemtype=\"http://schema.org/Person\">\n \n <div class=\"content\">\n \n <address class=\"name\">\n\n <span class=\"lab-hidden-byline-name\" itemprop=\"name\">Odd E. 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Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.</span> </p><figure class=\"column desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight small-12 large-2 small-abs-12 large-abs-2\" data-element-guid=\"2dad9371-f480-4399-8a27-f011fe296d79\">\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"480\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"480\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"480\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Odd E. Rambøl.\" width=\"480\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">Odd E. Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Privat</figcaption>\n </div> </div>\n</figure>\n<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og\n1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href=\"https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf\">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og\nvi vil bli <a href=\"https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html\">utenforlandet\ni Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,\nkommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163233\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163233\" href=\"/nyheter/eu-derfor-snudde-ap-toppen-fra-nei-til-ja/10163233\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"30e350d2-859e-44f5-aad4-1f158f4306c1\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T06:00:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk\nEU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i\ngang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886\">50\nprosent nei</a>, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"5e7406cb-c8f9-437a-8196-6b4639444f4f\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board1\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Og det var etter at\nTrump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026\">Men\nda han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –\nmen finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out\">Trump always\nChickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det\nmed TACO. </p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"b9508ad9-6623-4824-876f-bcb70b1783c4\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163054\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163054\" href=\"/nyheter/lo-smeller-dora-igjen-for-eu-debatt/10163054\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"5b450740-32cc-414c-8985-1e20274d22fd\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-22T14:03:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">Ja-siden mener <a href=\"https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960\">Nato er\nsvekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –\nbåde <a href=\"https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/\">den\npolitiske</a> og <a href=\"https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506\">den\nmilitære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU\nav sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse\nkrever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er\net «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en\neffektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"ce0abf53-2172-470c-ab1e-4ccdf3e82f26\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board2\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut\nav Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse\npå den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href=\"https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse\">EU\nvil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil\nsvekke forholdet til landet som <a href=\"https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/\">dekker\nen tredjedel av behovet deres for gass</a>?</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"8184c5ff-ad13-45ce-a1b9-e6c90a027eb8\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10170734\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10170734\" href=\"/debatt/bruk-kreftene-mot-hoyresiden/10170734\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T09:30:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"1e0e8d24-f950-4050-9233-61aac937744e\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10168728\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10168728\" href=\"/debatt/uforstaelig-at-eu-motstanden-er-sa-sterk/10168728\" 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-26T11:49:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n\n<!-- placeholder(#1) -->\n<div class=\"column articlescroller source_debatt-dagsavisen small-12 large-12 bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" data-element-guid=\"fe35c186-8010-4056-860d-4ea520912544\" id=\"article_list_10172484\" style=\"\">\n \n <div class=\"inner content fullwidthTarget\">\n \n <h2 class=\"articlescroller-header t32\" style=\"\">Mer debatt</h2>\n\n <ul class=\"scroll-container swipehelper snap-container-x snap-element-start articles count_4 \">\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/venstres-miljobloff-dyrere-kollektivpriser-og-billigere-parkering/10180969\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10181039.jpg?imageId=10181039&panox=0.00&panoy=11.39&panow=100.00&panoh=71.67&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Venstres miljøbløff</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/vinsnobber-i-dagsavisen/10180438\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10180509.jpg?imageId=10180509&panox=0.00&panoy=12.17&panow=100.00&panoh=33.77&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Vinsnobber i Dagsavisen?</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/kutt-i-forebygging-vil-straffe-seg/10180259\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10180379.jpg?imageId=10180379&panox=0.00&panoy=7.24&panow=96.00&panoh=68.62&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Kutt i forebygging vil straffe seg</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/hurtige-teknologiskifter-krever-rask-hms-tilpasning/10180139\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" 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src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10175418.jpg?imageId=10175418&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Midtøsten får ikke fred ved å overse sitt største mindretall</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/rasisme-med-politisk-ryggdekning/10176722\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10176731.jpg?imageId=10176731&panox=0.00&panoy=0.83&panow=100.00&panoh=71.67&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Rasisme med politisk ryggdekning</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n 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2026-02-02 13:01:57
EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein
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Author: Odd E. Rambøl
Published: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
Updated: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
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Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.
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Dette er et debattinnlegg som gir uttrykk for skribentens holdninger og meninger. Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.
Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi massearbeidsledighet, og vi vil bli utenforlandet i Europa.
Etter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».
Vi må få en debatt om norsk EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste 50 prosent nei, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.
Og det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.
Men da han kom til Davos, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «Trump always Chickens Out». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.
Ja-siden mener Nato er svekket, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både den politiske og den militære – sier noe annet.
Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.
Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.
Så påstås det at EU vil neglisjere Norge, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass?
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"content" : "Dette er et debattinnlegg som gir uttrykk for skribentens holdninger og meninger. Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.\n\nSå er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja\\-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi [massearbeidsledighet](https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf), og vi vil bli [utenforlandet i Europa](https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html).\n\nEtter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».\n\nVi må få en debatt om norsk EU\\-medlemskap, sier ja\\-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste [50 prosent nei](https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886), 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.\n\nOg det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.\n\n[Men da han kom til Davos](https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026), slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO\\-versjon: «[Trump always Chickens Out](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out)». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.\n\nJa\\-siden mener [Nato er svekket](https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960), og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både [den politiske](https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/) og [den militære](https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506) – sier noe annet.\n\nDet å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.\n\nSelv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.\n\nSå påstås det at [EU vil neglisjere Norge](https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse), behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som [dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass](https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/)?\n\n## Mer debatt\n\n- [ Vinsnobber i Dagsavisen? ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/vinsnobber-i-dagsavisen/10180438)\n- [ Kutt i forebygging vil straffe seg ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/kutt-i-forebygging-vil-straffe-seg/10180259)\n- [ Hurtige teknologiskifter krever rask tilpasning ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/hurtige-teknologiskifter-krever-rask-hms-tilpasning/10180139)\n- [ På tide å ta innover seg realitetene, Trædal ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/pa-tide-a-ta-innover-seg-realitetene-traedal/10178797)\n- [ En navers klagesang ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/en-navers-klagesang/10171968)\n- [ Midtøsten får ikke fred ved å overse sitt største mindretall ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/midtosten-far-ikke-fred-ved-a-overse-sitt-storste-mindretall/10175310)\n- [ Rasisme med politisk ryggdekning ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/rasisme-med-politisk-ryggdekning/10176722)\n- [ EU\\-debatten: Underlig omtale av våre naboer og venner ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/eu-debatten-underlig-omtale-av-vare-naboer-og-venner/10175079)\n- [ Når «laget rundt barnet» stopper ved skoleporten ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/nar-laget-rundt-barnet-stopper-ved-skoleporten/10173154)\n- [ Økt boligskatt svekker den norske eierlinjen ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/okt-boligskatt-svekker-den-norske-eierlinjen/10175381)",
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<h1 class="headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>
<h2 class="subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>
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<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og
1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href="https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og
vi vil bli <a href="https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html">utenforlandet
i Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,
kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class="column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 " data-element-guid="7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064" data-image-float="floatRight" data-instance="10163233" data-section="nyheter" data-site-alias="dagsavisen" itemscope>
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<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk
EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i
gang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886">50
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<p>Og det var etter at
Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026">Men
da han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –
men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out">Trump always
Chickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det
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<p class="font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold" data-lab-font_weight="font-weight-bold">Ja-siden mener <a href="https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960">Nato er
svekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –
både <a href="https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/">den
politiske</a> og <a href="https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506">den
militære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU
av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse
krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er
et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en
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<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut
av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse
på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href="https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse">EU
vil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil
svekke forholdet til landet som <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/">dekker
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Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Vegard Grøtt / NTB</figcaption>\n </div>\n\n\n\n <p class=\"kicker t28 tertiary color_mobile_tertiary\" style=\"\">Debatt</p>\n <h1 class=\"headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>\n <h2 class=\"subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>\n\n\n\n <div class=\"meta\" data-element-guid=\"d520d94b-0c69-4534-cde9-b7d9415b5b0f\">\n \n\n <div class=\"bylines\">\n <div class=\"byline column\" data-element-guid=\"ce43fcb6-7f8b-4883-b22c-2bdd1363e4fb\" itemscope itemtype=\"http://schema.org/Person\">\n \n <div class=\"content\">\n \n <address class=\"name\">\n\n <span class=\"lab-hidden-byline-name\" itemprop=\"name\">Odd E. 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Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.</span> </p><figure class=\"column desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight small-12 large-2 small-abs-12 large-abs-2\" data-element-guid=\"2dad9371-f480-4399-8a27-f011fe296d79\">\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"480\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"480\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"480\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Odd E. Rambøl.\" width=\"480\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">Odd E. Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Privat</figcaption>\n </div> </div>\n</figure>\n<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og\n1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href=\"https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf\">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og\nvi vil bli <a href=\"https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html\">utenforlandet\ni Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,\nkommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163233\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163233\" href=\"/nyheter/eu-derfor-snudde-ap-toppen-fra-nei-til-ja/10163233\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"30e350d2-859e-44f5-aad4-1f158f4306c1\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T06:00:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk\nEU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i\ngang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886\">50\nprosent nei</a>, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"c80427a3-994b-4eb6-c904-5c3cfd77aab2\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board1\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Og det var etter at\nTrump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026\">Men\nda han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –\nmen finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out\">Trump always\nChickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det\nmed TACO. </p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"b9508ad9-6623-4824-876f-bcb70b1783c4\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163054\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163054\" href=\"/nyheter/lo-smeller-dora-igjen-for-eu-debatt/10163054\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"5b450740-32cc-414c-8985-1e20274d22fd\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-22T14:03:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">Ja-siden mener <a href=\"https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960\">Nato er\nsvekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –\nbåde <a href=\"https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/\">den\npolitiske</a> og <a href=\"https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506\">den\nmilitære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU\nav sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse\nkrever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er\net «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en\neffektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"5cb380e7-43df-4355-f146-d2d4ff118f1e\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board2\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut\nav Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse\npå den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href=\"https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse\">EU\nvil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil\nsvekke forholdet til landet som <a href=\"https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/\">dekker\nen tredjedel av behovet deres for gass</a>?</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"8184c5ff-ad13-45ce-a1b9-e6c90a027eb8\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10170734\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10170734\" href=\"/debatt/bruk-kreftene-mot-hoyresiden/10170734\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T09:30:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"1e0e8d24-f950-4050-9233-61aac937744e\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10168728\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10168728\" href=\"/debatt/uforstaelig-at-eu-motstanden-er-sa-sterk/10168728\" 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-26T11:49:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n\n<!-- placeholder(#1) -->\n<div class=\"column articlescroller source_debatt-dagsavisen small-12 large-12 bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" data-element-guid=\"fe35c186-8010-4056-860d-4ea520912544\" id=\"article_list_10172484\" style=\"\">\n \n <div class=\"inner content fullwidthTarget\">\n \n <h2 class=\"articlescroller-header t32\" style=\"\">Mer debatt</h2>\n\n <ul class=\"scroll-container swipehelper snap-container-x snap-element-start articles count_4 \">\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/vinsnobber-i-dagsavisen/10180438\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10180509.jpg?imageId=10180509&panox=0.00&panoy=12.17&panow=100.00&panoh=33.77&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Vinsnobber i Dagsavisen?</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/kutt-i-forebygging-vil-straffe-seg/10180259\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10180379.jpg?imageId=10180379&panox=0.00&panoy=7.24&panow=96.00&panoh=68.62&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Kutt i forebygging vil straffe seg</h3>\n \n \n \n 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2026-02-02 11:31:18
EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein
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Author: Odd E. Rambøl
Published: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
Updated: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
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Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.
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Dette er et debattinnlegg som gir uttrykk for skribentens holdninger og meninger. Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.
Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi massearbeidsledighet, og vi vil bli utenforlandet i Europa.
Etter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».
Vi må få en debatt om norsk EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste 50 prosent nei, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.
Og det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.
Men da han kom til Davos, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «Trump always Chickens Out». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.
Ja-siden mener Nato er svekket, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både den politiske og den militære – sier noe annet.
Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.
Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.
Så påstås det at EU vil neglisjere Norge, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass?
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<h1 class="headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>
<h2 class="subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>
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<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og
1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href="https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og
vi vil bli <a href="https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html">utenforlandet
i Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,
kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class="column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 " data-element-guid="7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064" data-image-float="floatRight" data-instance="10163233" data-section="nyheter" data-site-alias="dagsavisen" itemscope>
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<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk
EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i
gang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886">50
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<p>Og det var etter at
Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026">Men
da han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –
men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out">Trump always
Chickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det
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<p class="font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold" data-lab-font_weight="font-weight-bold">Ja-siden mener <a href="https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960">Nato er
svekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –
både <a href="https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/">den
politiske</a> og <a href="https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506">den
militære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU
av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse
krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er
et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en
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<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut
av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse
på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href="https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse">EU
vil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil
svekke forholdet til landet som <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/">dekker
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Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Vegard Grøtt / NTB</figcaption>\n </div>\n\n\n\n <p class=\"kicker t28 tertiary color_mobile_tertiary\" style=\"\">Debatt</p>\n <h1 class=\"headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>\n <h2 class=\"subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>\n\n\n\n <div class=\"meta\" data-element-guid=\"3808ebdf-64ef-4f5d-e540-e533b25d8252\">\n \n\n <div class=\"bylines\">\n <div class=\"byline column\" data-element-guid=\"ce43fcb6-7f8b-4883-b22c-2bdd1363e4fb\" itemscope itemtype=\"http://schema.org/Person\">\n \n <div class=\"content\">\n \n <address class=\"name\">\n\n <span class=\"lab-hidden-byline-name\" itemprop=\"name\">Odd E. 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Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.</span> </p><figure class=\"column desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight small-12 large-2 small-abs-12 large-abs-2\" data-element-guid=\"2dad9371-f480-4399-8a27-f011fe296d79\">\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"480\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"480\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"480\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Odd E. Rambøl.\" width=\"480\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">Odd E. Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Privat</figcaption>\n </div> </div>\n</figure>\n<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og\n1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href=\"https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf\">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og\nvi vil bli <a href=\"https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html\">utenforlandet\ni Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,\nkommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163233\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163233\" href=\"/nyheter/eu-derfor-snudde-ap-toppen-fra-nei-til-ja/10163233\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"30e350d2-859e-44f5-aad4-1f158f4306c1\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T06:00:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk\nEU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i\ngang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886\">50\nprosent nei</a>, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"49eba277-904e-4478-f365-606a036c7922\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board1\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Og det var etter at\nTrump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026\">Men\nda han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –\nmen finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out\">Trump always\nChickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det\nmed TACO. </p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"b9508ad9-6623-4824-876f-bcb70b1783c4\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163054\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163054\" href=\"/nyheter/lo-smeller-dora-igjen-for-eu-debatt/10163054\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"5b450740-32cc-414c-8985-1e20274d22fd\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-22T14:03:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">Ja-siden mener <a href=\"https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960\">Nato er\nsvekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –\nbåde <a href=\"https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/\">den\npolitiske</a> og <a href=\"https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506\">den\nmilitære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU\nav sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse\nkrever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er\net «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en\neffektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"53acda5d-b9a5-47f9-bb12-d02aca88aa3b\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board2\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut\nav Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse\npå den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href=\"https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse\">EU\nvil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil\nsvekke forholdet til landet som <a href=\"https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/\">dekker\nen tredjedel av behovet deres for gass</a>?</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"8184c5ff-ad13-45ce-a1b9-e6c90a027eb8\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10170734\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10170734\" href=\"/debatt/bruk-kreftene-mot-hoyresiden/10170734\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T09:30:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"1e0e8d24-f950-4050-9233-61aac937744e\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10168728\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10168728\" href=\"/debatt/uforstaelig-at-eu-motstanden-er-sa-sterk/10168728\" 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-26T11:49:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n\n<!-- placeholder(#1) -->\n<div class=\"column articlescroller source_debatt-dagsavisen small-12 large-12 bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" data-element-guid=\"fe35c186-8010-4056-860d-4ea520912544\" id=\"article_list_10172484\" style=\"\">\n \n <div class=\"inner content fullwidthTarget\">\n \n <h2 class=\"articlescroller-header t32\" style=\"\">Mer debatt</h2>\n\n <ul class=\"scroll-container swipehelper snap-container-x snap-element-start articles count_4 \">\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/hurtige-teknologiskifter-krever-rask-hms-tilpasning/10180139\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10180195.jpg?imageId=10180195&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Hurtige teknologiskifter krever rask tilpasning</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/pa-tide-a-ta-innover-seg-realitetene-traedal/10178797\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10178804.jpg?imageId=10178804&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>På tide å ta innover seg realitetene, Trædal</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/en-navers-klagesang/10171968\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10175114.jpg?imageId=10175114&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=71.67&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>En navers klagesang</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/midtosten-far-ikke-fred-ved-a-overse-sitt-storste-mindretall/10175310\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10175418.jpg?imageId=10175418&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Midtøsten får ikke fred ved å overse sitt største mindretall</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/rasisme-med-politisk-ryggdekning/10176722\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" 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2026-02-01 18:03:34
EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein
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Author: Odd E. Rambøl
Published: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
Updated: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
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Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi massearbeidsledighet, og vi vil bli utenforlandet i Europa.
Etter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».
Vi må få en debatt om norsk EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste 50 prosent nei, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.
Og det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.
Men da han kom til Davos, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «Trump always Chickens Out». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.
Ja-siden mener Nato er svekket, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både den politiske og den militære – sier noe annet.
Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.
Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.
Så påstås det at EU vil neglisjere Norge, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass?
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<h1 class="headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>
<h2 class="subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>
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<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og
1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href="https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og
vi vil bli <a href="https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html">utenforlandet
i Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,
kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class="column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 " data-element-guid="7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064" data-image-float="floatRight" data-instance="10163233" data-section="nyheter" data-site-alias="dagsavisen" itemscope>
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<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk
EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i
gang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886">50
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<p>Og det var etter at
Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026">Men
da han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –
men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out">Trump always
Chickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det
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<p class="font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold" data-lab-font_weight="font-weight-bold">Ja-siden mener <a href="https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960">Nato er
svekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –
både <a href="https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/">den
politiske</a> og <a href="https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506">den
militære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU
av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse
krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er
et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en
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<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut
av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse
på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href="https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse">EU
vil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil
svekke forholdet til landet som <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/">dekker
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Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Vegard Grøtt / NTB</figcaption>\n </div>\n\n\n\n <p class=\"kicker t28 tertiary color_mobile_tertiary\" style=\"\">Debatt</p>\n <h1 class=\"headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>\n <h2 class=\"subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>\n\n\n\n <div class=\"meta\" data-element-guid=\"4ad05514-51ea-4562-8926-9d21fb6bd10c\">\n \n\n <div class=\"bylines\">\n <div class=\"byline column\" data-element-guid=\"ce43fcb6-7f8b-4883-b22c-2bdd1363e4fb\" itemscope itemtype=\"http://schema.org/Person\">\n \n <div class=\"content\">\n \n <address class=\"name\">\n\n <span class=\"lab-hidden-byline-name\" itemprop=\"name\">Odd E. 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Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.</span> </p><figure class=\"column desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight small-12 large-2 small-abs-12 large-abs-2\" data-element-guid=\"2dad9371-f480-4399-8a27-f011fe296d79\">\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"480\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"480\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"480\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Odd E. Rambøl.\" width=\"480\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">Odd E. Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Privat</figcaption>\n </div> </div>\n</figure>\n<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og\n1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href=\"https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf\">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og\nvi vil bli <a href=\"https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html\">utenforlandet\ni Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,\nkommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163233\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163233\" href=\"/nyheter/eu-derfor-snudde-ap-toppen-fra-nei-til-ja/10163233\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"30e350d2-859e-44f5-aad4-1f158f4306c1\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T06:00:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk\nEU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i\ngang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886\">50\nprosent nei</a>, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"1ed24271-6e7d-4134-83ca-5f0dc50b1d66\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board1\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Og det var etter at\nTrump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026\">Men\nda han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –\nmen finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out\">Trump always\nChickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det\nmed TACO. </p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"b9508ad9-6623-4824-876f-bcb70b1783c4\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163054\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163054\" href=\"/nyheter/lo-smeller-dora-igjen-for-eu-debatt/10163054\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"5b450740-32cc-414c-8985-1e20274d22fd\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-22T14:03:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">Ja-siden mener <a href=\"https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960\">Nato er\nsvekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –\nbåde <a href=\"https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/\">den\npolitiske</a> og <a href=\"https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506\">den\nmilitære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU\nav sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse\nkrever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er\net «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en\neffektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"07d849ef-4d07-42ba-cda4-b8a0ece5deb2\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board2\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut\nav Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse\npå den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href=\"https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse\">EU\nvil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil\nsvekke forholdet til landet som <a href=\"https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/\">dekker\nen tredjedel av behovet deres for gass</a>?</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"8184c5ff-ad13-45ce-a1b9-e6c90a027eb8\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10170734\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10170734\" href=\"/debatt/bruk-kreftene-mot-hoyresiden/10170734\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T09:30:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"1e0e8d24-f950-4050-9233-61aac937744e\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10168728\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10168728\" href=\"/debatt/uforstaelig-at-eu-motstanden-er-sa-sterk/10168728\" 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-26T11:49:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n\n<!-- placeholder(#1) -->\n<div class=\"column articlescroller source_debatt-dagsavisen small-12 large-12 bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" data-element-guid=\"fe35c186-8010-4056-860d-4ea520912544\" id=\"article_list_10172484\" style=\"\">\n \n <div class=\"inner content fullwidthTarget\">\n \n <h2 class=\"articlescroller-header t32\" style=\"\">Mer debatt</h2>\n\n <ul class=\"scroll-container swipehelper snap-container-x snap-element-start articles count_4 \">\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/pa-tide-a-ta-innover-seg-realitetene-traedal/10178797\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10178804.jpg?imageId=10178804&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>På tide å ta innover seg realitetene, Trædal</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/en-navers-klagesang/10171968\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10175114.jpg?imageId=10175114&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=71.67&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>En navers klagesang</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/midtosten-far-ikke-fred-ved-a-overse-sitt-storste-mindretall/10175310\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10175418.jpg?imageId=10175418&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Midtøsten får ikke fred ved å overse sitt største mindretall</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/rasisme-med-politisk-ryggdekning/10176722\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10176731.jpg?imageId=10176731&panox=0.00&panoy=0.83&panow=100.00&panoh=71.67&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Rasisme med politisk ryggdekning</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/eu-debatten-underlig-omtale-av-vare-naboer-og-venner/10175079\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10175100.jpg?imageId=10175100&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>EU-debatten: Underlig omtale av 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2026-02-01 08:15:26
EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein
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Author: Odd E. Rambøl
Published: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
Updated: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
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Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.
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Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi massearbeidsledighet, og vi vil bli utenforlandet i Europa.
Etter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».
Vi må få en debatt om norsk EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste 50 prosent nei, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.
Og det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.
Men da han kom til Davos, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «Trump always Chickens Out». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.
Ja-siden mener Nato er svekket, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både den politiske og den militære – sier noe annet.
Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.
Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.
Så påstås det at EU vil neglisjere Norge, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass?
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<h1 class="headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>
<h2 class="subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>
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<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og
1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href="https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og
vi vil bli <a href="https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html">utenforlandet
i Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,
kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class="column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 " data-element-guid="7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064" data-image-float="floatRight" data-instance="10163233" data-section="nyheter" data-site-alias="dagsavisen" itemscope>
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<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk
EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i
gang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886">50
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<p>Og det var etter at
Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026">Men
da han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –
men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out">Trump always
Chickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det
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<p class="font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold" data-lab-font_weight="font-weight-bold">Ja-siden mener <a href="https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960">Nato er
svekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –
både <a href="https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/">den
politiske</a> og <a href="https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506">den
militære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU
av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse
krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er
et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en
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<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut
av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse
på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href="https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse">EU
vil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil
svekke forholdet til landet som <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/">dekker
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Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Vegard Grøtt / NTB</figcaption>\n </div>\n\n\n\n <p class=\"kicker t28 tertiary color_mobile_tertiary\" style=\"\">Debatt</p>\n <h1 class=\"headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>\n <h2 class=\"subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>\n\n\n\n <div class=\"meta\" data-element-guid=\"3bca1e15-3b41-4988-dfd5-2c7de0826701\">\n \n\n <div class=\"bylines\">\n <div class=\"byline column\" data-element-guid=\"ce43fcb6-7f8b-4883-b22c-2bdd1363e4fb\" itemscope itemtype=\"http://schema.org/Person\">\n \n <div class=\"content\">\n \n <address class=\"name\">\n\n <span class=\"lab-hidden-byline-name\" itemprop=\"name\">Odd E. 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Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.</span> </p><figure class=\"column desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight small-12 large-2 small-abs-12 large-abs-2\" data-element-guid=\"2dad9371-f480-4399-8a27-f011fe296d79\">\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"480\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"480\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"480\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Odd E. Rambøl.\" width=\"480\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">Odd E. Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Privat</figcaption>\n </div> </div>\n</figure>\n<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og\n1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href=\"https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf\">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og\nvi vil bli <a href=\"https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html\">utenforlandet\ni Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,\nkommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163233\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163233\" href=\"/nyheter/eu-derfor-snudde-ap-toppen-fra-nei-til-ja/10163233\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"30e350d2-859e-44f5-aad4-1f158f4306c1\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T06:00:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk\nEU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i\ngang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886\">50\nprosent nei</a>, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"d71f20c5-00ce-4cc8-f654-57a756c09339\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board1\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Og det var etter at\nTrump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026\">Men\nda han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –\nmen finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out\">Trump always\nChickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det\nmed TACO. </p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"b9508ad9-6623-4824-876f-bcb70b1783c4\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163054\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163054\" href=\"/nyheter/lo-smeller-dora-igjen-for-eu-debatt/10163054\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"5b450740-32cc-414c-8985-1e20274d22fd\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-22T14:03:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">Ja-siden mener <a href=\"https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960\">Nato er\nsvekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –\nbåde <a href=\"https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/\">den\npolitiske</a> og <a href=\"https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506\">den\nmilitære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU\nav sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse\nkrever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er\net «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en\neffektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"a85320f3-ac7f-4210-f866-6c6c37d2ec8f\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board2\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut\nav Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse\npå den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href=\"https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse\">EU\nvil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil\nsvekke forholdet til landet som <a href=\"https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/\">dekker\nen tredjedel av behovet deres for gass</a>?</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"8184c5ff-ad13-45ce-a1b9-e6c90a027eb8\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10170734\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10170734\" href=\"/debatt/bruk-kreftene-mot-hoyresiden/10170734\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T09:30:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"1e0e8d24-f950-4050-9233-61aac937744e\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10168728\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10168728\" href=\"/debatt/uforstaelig-at-eu-motstanden-er-sa-sterk/10168728\" 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-26T11:49:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n\n<!-- placeholder(#1) -->\n<div class=\"column articlescroller source_debatt-dagsavisen small-12 large-12 bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" data-element-guid=\"fe35c186-8010-4056-860d-4ea520912544\" id=\"article_list_10172484\" style=\"\">\n \n <div class=\"inner content fullwidthTarget\">\n \n <h2 class=\"articlescroller-header t32\" style=\"\">Mer debatt</h2>\n\n <ul class=\"scroll-container swipehelper snap-container-x snap-element-start articles count_4 \">\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/en-navers-klagesang/10171968\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10175114.jpg?imageId=10175114&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=71.67&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>En navers klagesang</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/midtosten-far-ikke-fred-ved-a-overse-sitt-storste-mindretall/10175310\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10175418.jpg?imageId=10175418&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Midtøsten får ikke fred ved å overse sitt største mindretall</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/rasisme-med-politisk-ryggdekning/10176722\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10176731.jpg?imageId=10176731&panox=0.00&panoy=0.83&panow=100.00&panoh=71.67&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Rasisme med politisk ryggdekning</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/eu-debatten-underlig-omtale-av-vare-naboer-og-venner/10175079\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" 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EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein
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Author: Odd E. Rambøl
Published: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
Updated: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
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Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi massearbeidsledighet, og vi vil bli utenforlandet i Europa.
Etter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».
Vi må få en debatt om norsk EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste 50 prosent nei, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.
Og det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.
Men da han kom til Davos, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «Trump always Chickens Out». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.
Ja-siden mener Nato er svekket, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både den politiske og den militære – sier noe annet.
Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.
Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.
Så påstås det at EU vil neglisjere Norge, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass?
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<h1 class="headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>
<h2 class="subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>
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<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og
1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href="https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og
vi vil bli <a href="https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html">utenforlandet
i Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,
kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class="column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 " data-element-guid="7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064" data-image-float="floatRight" data-instance="10163233" data-section="nyheter" data-site-alias="dagsavisen" itemscope>
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<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk
EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i
gang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886">50
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<p>Og det var etter at
Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026">Men
da han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –
men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out">Trump always
Chickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det
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<p class="font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold" data-lab-font_weight="font-weight-bold">Ja-siden mener <a href="https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960">Nato er
svekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –
både <a href="https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/">den
politiske</a> og <a href="https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506">den
militære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU
av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse
krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er
et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en
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<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut
av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse
på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href="https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse">EU
vil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil
svekke forholdet til landet som <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/">dekker
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"content" : "Dette er et debattinnlegg som gir uttrykk for skribentens holdninger og meninger. Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.\n\nSå er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja\\-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi [massearbeidsledighet](https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf), og vi vil bli [utenforlandet i Europa](https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html).\n\nEtter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».\n\nVi må få en debatt om norsk EU\\-medlemskap, sier ja\\-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste [50 prosent nei](https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886), 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.\n\nOg det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.\n\n[Men da han kom til Davos](https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026), slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO\\-versjon: «[Trump always Chickens Out](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out)». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.\n\nJa\\-siden mener [Nato er svekket](https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960), og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både [den politiske](https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/) og [den militære](https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506) – sier noe annet.\n\nDet å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.\n\nSelv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.\n\nSå påstås det at [EU vil neglisjere Norge](https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse), behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som [dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass](https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/)?\n\n## Mer debatt\n\n- [ Midtøsten får ikke fred ved å overse sitt største mindretall ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/midtosten-far-ikke-fred-ved-a-overse-sitt-storste-mindretall/10175310)\n- [ Rasisme med politisk ryggdekning ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/rasisme-med-politisk-ryggdekning/10176722)\n- [ EU\\-debatten: Underlig omtale av våre naboer og venner ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/eu-debatten-underlig-omtale-av-vare-naboer-og-venner/10175079)\n- [ Når «laget rundt barnet» stopper ved skoleporten ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/nar-laget-rundt-barnet-stopper-ved-skoleporten/10173154)\n- [ Økt boligskatt svekker den norske eierlinjen ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/okt-boligskatt-svekker-den-norske-eierlinjen/10175381)\n- [ En mer praktisk ungdomsskole for alle elever ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/en-mer-praktisk-ungdomsskole-for-alle-elever/10173369)\n- [ Hvor mange tragedier skal vi tåle? ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/hvor-mange-tragedier-skal-vi-tale/10174547)\n- [ Samfunn som tåler forskjeller, tåler kriser ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/samfunn-som-taler-forskjeller-taler-kriser/10173619)\n- [ EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/eu-er-et-dyr-med-fire-bakbein/10172481)\n- [ Dagsavisen publiserer mye bra – intervjuet med Stoltenberg var et unntak ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/dagsavisen-publiserer-mye-bra-intervjuet-med-stoltenberg-var-et-unntak/10173728)",
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Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Vegard Grøtt / NTB</figcaption>\n </div>\n\n\n\n <p class=\"kicker t28 tertiary color_mobile_tertiary\" style=\"\">Debatt</p>\n <h1 class=\"headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>\n <h2 class=\"subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>\n\n\n\n <div class=\"meta\" data-element-guid=\"8f92c6a4-5053-4bfc-99d2-6e74c3308f2b\">\n \n\n <div class=\"bylines\">\n <div class=\"byline column\" data-element-guid=\"ce43fcb6-7f8b-4883-b22c-2bdd1363e4fb\" itemscope itemtype=\"http://schema.org/Person\">\n \n <div class=\"content\">\n \n <address class=\"name\">\n\n <span class=\"lab-hidden-byline-name\" itemprop=\"name\">Odd E. 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Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.</span> </p><figure class=\"column desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight small-12 large-2 small-abs-12 large-abs-2\" data-element-guid=\"2dad9371-f480-4399-8a27-f011fe296d79\">\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"480\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"480\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"480\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Odd E. Rambøl.\" width=\"480\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">Odd E. Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Privat</figcaption>\n </div> </div>\n</figure>\n<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og\n1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href=\"https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf\">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og\nvi vil bli <a href=\"https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html\">utenforlandet\ni Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,\nkommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163233\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163233\" href=\"/nyheter/eu-derfor-snudde-ap-toppen-fra-nei-til-ja/10163233\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"30e350d2-859e-44f5-aad4-1f158f4306c1\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T06:00:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk\nEU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i\ngang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886\">50\nprosent nei</a>, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"391f473b-e225-4d02-e002-dee7a09a407b\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board1\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Og det var etter at\nTrump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026\">Men\nda han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –\nmen finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out\">Trump always\nChickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det\nmed TACO. </p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"b9508ad9-6623-4824-876f-bcb70b1783c4\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163054\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163054\" href=\"/nyheter/lo-smeller-dora-igjen-for-eu-debatt/10163054\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"5b450740-32cc-414c-8985-1e20274d22fd\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-22T14:03:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">Ja-siden mener <a href=\"https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960\">Nato er\nsvekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –\nbåde <a href=\"https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/\">den\npolitiske</a> og <a href=\"https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506\">den\nmilitære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU\nav sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse\nkrever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er\net «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en\neffektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"30e8cdb6-f696-45eb-df87-23b5c4abfb00\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board2\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut\nav Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse\npå den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href=\"https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse\">EU\nvil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil\nsvekke forholdet til landet som <a href=\"https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/\">dekker\nen tredjedel av behovet deres for gass</a>?</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"8184c5ff-ad13-45ce-a1b9-e6c90a027eb8\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10170734\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10170734\" href=\"/debatt/bruk-kreftene-mot-hoyresiden/10170734\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T09:30:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"1e0e8d24-f950-4050-9233-61aac937744e\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10168728\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10168728\" href=\"/debatt/uforstaelig-at-eu-motstanden-er-sa-sterk/10168728\" 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-26T11:49:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n\n<!-- placeholder(#1) -->\n<div class=\"column articlescroller source_debatt-dagsavisen small-12 large-12 bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" data-element-guid=\"fe35c186-8010-4056-860d-4ea520912544\" id=\"article_list_10172484\" style=\"\">\n \n <div class=\"inner content fullwidthTarget\">\n \n <h2 class=\"articlescroller-header t32\" style=\"\">Mer debatt</h2>\n\n <ul class=\"scroll-container swipehelper snap-container-x snap-element-start articles count_4 \">\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/midtosten-far-ikke-fred-ved-a-overse-sitt-storste-mindretall/10175310\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10175418.jpg?imageId=10175418&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Midtøsten får ikke fred ved å overse sitt største mindretall</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/rasisme-med-politisk-ryggdekning/10176722\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10176731.jpg?imageId=10176731&panox=0.00&panoy=0.83&panow=100.00&panoh=71.67&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Rasisme med politisk ryggdekning</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/eu-debatten-underlig-omtale-av-vare-naboer-og-venner/10175079\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10175100.jpg?imageId=10175100&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>EU-debatten: Underlig omtale av våre naboer og venner</h3>\n \n \n \n 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EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein
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Author: Odd E. Rambøl
Published: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
Updated: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
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Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.
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Dette er et debattinnlegg som gir uttrykk for skribentens holdninger og meninger. Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.
Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi massearbeidsledighet, og vi vil bli utenforlandet i Europa.
Etter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».
Vi må få en debatt om norsk EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste 50 prosent nei, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.
Og det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.
Men da han kom til Davos, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «Trump always Chickens Out». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.
Ja-siden mener Nato er svekket, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både den politiske og den militære – sier noe annet.
Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.
Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.
Så påstås det at EU vil neglisjere Norge, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass?
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<h1 class="headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>
<h2 class="subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>
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<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og
1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href="https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og
vi vil bli <a href="https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html">utenforlandet
i Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,
kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class="column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 " data-element-guid="7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064" data-image-float="floatRight" data-instance="10163233" data-section="nyheter" data-site-alias="dagsavisen" itemscope>
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<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk
EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i
gang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886">50
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<p>Og det var etter at
Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026">Men
da han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –
men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out">Trump always
Chickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det
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<p class="font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold" data-lab-font_weight="font-weight-bold">Ja-siden mener <a href="https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960">Nato er
svekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –
både <a href="https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/">den
politiske</a> og <a href="https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506">den
militære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU
av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse
krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er
et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en
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<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut
av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse
på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href="https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse">EU
vil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil
svekke forholdet til landet som <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/">dekker
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Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Vegard Grøtt / NTB</figcaption>\n </div>\n\n\n\n <p class=\"kicker t28 tertiary color_mobile_tertiary\" style=\"\">Debatt</p>\n <h1 class=\"headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>\n <h2 class=\"subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>\n\n\n\n <div class=\"meta\" data-element-guid=\"8c8d2ddc-be47-4d5a-c9a9-70ecd9f6acdb\">\n \n\n <div class=\"bylines\">\n <div class=\"byline column\" data-element-guid=\"ce43fcb6-7f8b-4883-b22c-2bdd1363e4fb\" itemscope itemtype=\"http://schema.org/Person\">\n \n <div class=\"content\">\n \n <address class=\"name\">\n\n <span class=\"lab-hidden-byline-name\" itemprop=\"name\">Odd E. 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Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.</span> </p><figure class=\"column desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight small-12 large-2 small-abs-12 large-abs-2\" data-element-guid=\"2dad9371-f480-4399-8a27-f011fe296d79\">\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"480\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"480\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"480\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Odd E. Rambøl.\" width=\"480\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">Odd E. Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Privat</figcaption>\n </div> </div>\n</figure>\n<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og\n1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href=\"https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf\">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og\nvi vil bli <a href=\"https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html\">utenforlandet\ni Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,\nkommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163233\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163233\" href=\"/nyheter/eu-derfor-snudde-ap-toppen-fra-nei-til-ja/10163233\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"30e350d2-859e-44f5-aad4-1f158f4306c1\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T06:00:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk\nEU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i\ngang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886\">50\nprosent nei</a>, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"bed0435e-bb61-4fea-96f9-df350ac32527\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board1\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Og det var etter at\nTrump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026\">Men\nda han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –\nmen finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out\">Trump always\nChickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det\nmed TACO. </p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"b9508ad9-6623-4824-876f-bcb70b1783c4\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163054\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163054\" href=\"/nyheter/lo-smeller-dora-igjen-for-eu-debatt/10163054\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"5b450740-32cc-414c-8985-1e20274d22fd\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-22T14:03:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">Ja-siden mener <a href=\"https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960\">Nato er\nsvekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –\nbåde <a href=\"https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/\">den\npolitiske</a> og <a href=\"https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506\">den\nmilitære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU\nav sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse\nkrever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er\net «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en\neffektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"2d77076c-3718-4f4c-ebe2-f854426729b9\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board2\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut\nav Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse\npå den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href=\"https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse\">EU\nvil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil\nsvekke forholdet til landet som <a href=\"https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/\">dekker\nen tredjedel av behovet deres for gass</a>?</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"8184c5ff-ad13-45ce-a1b9-e6c90a027eb8\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10170734\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10170734\" href=\"/debatt/bruk-kreftene-mot-hoyresiden/10170734\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T09:30:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"1e0e8d24-f950-4050-9233-61aac937744e\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10168728\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10168728\" href=\"/debatt/uforstaelig-at-eu-motstanden-er-sa-sterk/10168728\" 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-26T11:49:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n\n<!-- placeholder(#1) -->\n<div class=\"column articlescroller source_debatt-dagsavisen small-12 large-12 bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" data-element-guid=\"fe35c186-8010-4056-860d-4ea520912544\" id=\"article_list_10172484\" style=\"\">\n \n <div class=\"inner content fullwidthTarget\">\n \n <h2 class=\"articlescroller-header t32\" style=\"\">Mer debatt</h2>\n\n <ul class=\"scroll-container swipehelper snap-container-x snap-element-start articles count_4 \">\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/rasisme-med-politisk-ryggdekning/10176722\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10176731.jpg?imageId=10176731&panox=0.00&panoy=0.83&panow=100.00&panoh=71.67&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Rasisme med politisk ryggdekning</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/eu-debatten-underlig-omtale-av-vare-naboer-og-venner/10175079\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10175100.jpg?imageId=10175100&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>EU-debatten: Underlig omtale av våre naboer og venner</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/nar-laget-rundt-barnet-stopper-ved-skoleporten/10173154\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10173232.jpg?imageId=10173232&panox=0.00&panoy=13.06&panow=100.00&panoh=71.67&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Når «laget rundt barnet» stopper ved skoleporten</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/okt-boligskatt-svekker-den-norske-eierlinjen/10175381\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" 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EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein
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Author: Odd E. Rambøl
Published: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
Updated: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
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Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi massearbeidsledighet, og vi vil bli utenforlandet i Europa.
Etter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».
Vi må få en debatt om norsk EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste 50 prosent nei, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.
Og det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.
Men da han kom til Davos, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «Trump always Chickens Out». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.
Ja-siden mener Nato er svekket, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både den politiske og den militære – sier noe annet.
Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.
Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.
Så påstås det at EU vil neglisjere Norge, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass?
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<h1 class="headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>
<h2 class="subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>
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<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og
1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href="https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og
vi vil bli <a href="https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html">utenforlandet
i Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,
kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class="column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 " data-element-guid="7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064" data-image-float="floatRight" data-instance="10163233" data-section="nyheter" data-site-alias="dagsavisen" itemscope>
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<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk
EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i
gang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886">50
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<p>Og det var etter at
Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026">Men
da han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –
men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out">Trump always
Chickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det
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<p class="font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold" data-lab-font_weight="font-weight-bold">Ja-siden mener <a href="https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960">Nato er
svekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –
både <a href="https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/">den
politiske</a> og <a href="https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506">den
militære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU
av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse
krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er
et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en
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<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut
av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse
på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href="https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse">EU
vil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil
svekke forholdet til landet som <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/">dekker
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Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Vegard Grøtt / NTB</figcaption>\n </div>\n\n\n\n <p class=\"kicker t28 tertiary color_mobile_tertiary\" style=\"\">Debatt</p>\n <h1 class=\"headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>\n <h2 class=\"subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>\n\n\n\n <div class=\"meta\" data-element-guid=\"f00fc3c5-4bad-41e0-c7fd-469a7f03d310\">\n \n\n <div class=\"bylines\">\n <div class=\"byline column\" data-element-guid=\"ce43fcb6-7f8b-4883-b22c-2bdd1363e4fb\" itemscope itemtype=\"http://schema.org/Person\">\n \n <div class=\"content\">\n \n <address class=\"name\">\n\n <span class=\"lab-hidden-byline-name\" itemprop=\"name\">Odd E. 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Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.</span> </p><figure class=\"column desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight small-12 large-2 small-abs-12 large-abs-2\" data-element-guid=\"2dad9371-f480-4399-8a27-f011fe296d79\">\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"480\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"480\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"480\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Odd E. Rambøl.\" width=\"480\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">Odd E. Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Privat</figcaption>\n </div> </div>\n</figure>\n<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og\n1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href=\"https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf\">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og\nvi vil bli <a href=\"https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html\">utenforlandet\ni Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,\nkommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163233\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163233\" href=\"/nyheter/eu-derfor-snudde-ap-toppen-fra-nei-til-ja/10163233\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"30e350d2-859e-44f5-aad4-1f158f4306c1\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T06:00:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk\nEU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i\ngang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886\">50\nprosent nei</a>, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"0bfe93ca-fa23-4d9f-e445-6364c54ab060\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board1\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Og det var etter at\nTrump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026\">Men\nda han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –\nmen finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out\">Trump always\nChickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det\nmed TACO. </p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"b9508ad9-6623-4824-876f-bcb70b1783c4\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163054\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163054\" href=\"/nyheter/lo-smeller-dora-igjen-for-eu-debatt/10163054\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"5b450740-32cc-414c-8985-1e20274d22fd\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-22T14:03:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">Ja-siden mener <a href=\"https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960\">Nato er\nsvekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –\nbåde <a href=\"https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/\">den\npolitiske</a> og <a href=\"https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506\">den\nmilitære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU\nav sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse\nkrever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er\net «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en\neffektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"16576a40-47a7-49d4-f449-cf836491ef94\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board2\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut\nav Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse\npå den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href=\"https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse\">EU\nvil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil\nsvekke forholdet til landet som <a href=\"https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/\">dekker\nen tredjedel av behovet deres for gass</a>?</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"8184c5ff-ad13-45ce-a1b9-e6c90a027eb8\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10170734\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10170734\" href=\"/debatt/bruk-kreftene-mot-hoyresiden/10170734\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T09:30:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"1e0e8d24-f950-4050-9233-61aac937744e\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10168728\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10168728\" href=\"/debatt/uforstaelig-at-eu-motstanden-er-sa-sterk/10168728\" 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-26T11:49:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n\n<!-- placeholder(#1) -->\n<div class=\"column articlescroller source_debatt-dagsavisen small-12 large-12 bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" data-element-guid=\"fe35c186-8010-4056-860d-4ea520912544\" id=\"article_list_10172484\" style=\"\">\n \n <div class=\"inner content fullwidthTarget\">\n \n <h2 class=\"articlescroller-header t32\" style=\"\">Mer debatt</h2>\n\n <ul class=\"scroll-container swipehelper snap-container-x snap-element-start articles count_4 \">\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/eu-debatten-underlig-omtale-av-vare-naboer-og-venner/10175079\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10175100.jpg?imageId=10175100&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>EU-debatten: Underlig omtale av våre naboer og venner</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/nar-laget-rundt-barnet-stopper-ved-skoleporten/10173154\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10173232.jpg?imageId=10173232&panox=0.00&panoy=13.06&panow=100.00&panoh=71.67&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Når «laget rundt barnet» stopper ved skoleporten</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/okt-boligskatt-svekker-den-norske-eierlinjen/10175381\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10175489.jpg?imageId=10175489&panox=0.00&panoy=21.43&panow=80.00&panoh=57.33&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Økt boligskatt svekker den norske eierlinjen</h3>\n \n \n \n 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2026-01-29 13:50:50
EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein
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Author: Odd E. Rambøl
Published: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
Updated: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
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Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.
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Dette er et debattinnlegg som gir uttrykk for skribentens holdninger og meninger. Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.
Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi massearbeidsledighet, og vi vil bli utenforlandet i Europa.
Etter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».
Vi må få en debatt om norsk EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste 50 prosent nei, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.
Og det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.
Men da han kom til Davos, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «Trump always Chickens Out». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.
Ja-siden mener Nato er svekket, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både den politiske og den militære – sier noe annet.
Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.
Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.
Så påstås det at EU vil neglisjere Norge, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass?
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<h1 class="headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>
<h2 class="subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>
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<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og
1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href="https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og
vi vil bli <a href="https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html">utenforlandet
i Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,
kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class="column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 " data-element-guid="7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064" data-image-float="floatRight" data-instance="10163233" data-section="nyheter" data-site-alias="dagsavisen" itemscope>
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<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk
EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i
gang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886">50
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<p>Og det var etter at
Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026">Men
da han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –
men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out">Trump always
Chickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det
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<p class="font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold" data-lab-font_weight="font-weight-bold">Ja-siden mener <a href="https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960">Nato er
svekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –
både <a href="https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/">den
politiske</a> og <a href="https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506">den
militære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU
av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse
krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er
et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en
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<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut
av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse
på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href="https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse">EU
vil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil
svekke forholdet til landet som <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/">dekker
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Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Vegard Grøtt / NTB</figcaption>\n </div>\n\n\n\n <p class=\"kicker t28 tertiary color_mobile_tertiary\" style=\"\">Debatt</p>\n <h1 class=\"headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>\n <h2 class=\"subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>\n\n\n\n <div class=\"meta\" data-element-guid=\"04c28c23-7375-4beb-9a87-6c28e4e91113\">\n \n\n <div class=\"bylines\">\n <div class=\"byline column\" data-element-guid=\"ce43fcb6-7f8b-4883-b22c-2bdd1363e4fb\" itemscope itemtype=\"http://schema.org/Person\">\n \n <div class=\"content\">\n \n <address class=\"name\">\n\n <span class=\"lab-hidden-byline-name\" itemprop=\"name\">Odd E. 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Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.</span> </p><figure class=\"column desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight small-12 large-2 small-abs-12 large-abs-2\" data-element-guid=\"2dad9371-f480-4399-8a27-f011fe296d79\">\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"480\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"480\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"480\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Odd E. Rambøl.\" width=\"480\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">Odd E. Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Privat</figcaption>\n </div> </div>\n</figure>\n<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og\n1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href=\"https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf\">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og\nvi vil bli <a href=\"https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html\">utenforlandet\ni Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,\nkommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163233\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163233\" href=\"/nyheter/eu-derfor-snudde-ap-toppen-fra-nei-til-ja/10163233\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"30e350d2-859e-44f5-aad4-1f158f4306c1\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T06:00:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk\nEU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i\ngang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886\">50\nprosent nei</a>, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"26d45b8c-e239-47fd-c458-4e8b2cb4a57e\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board1\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Og det var etter at\nTrump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026\">Men\nda han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –\nmen finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out\">Trump always\nChickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det\nmed TACO. </p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"b9508ad9-6623-4824-876f-bcb70b1783c4\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163054\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163054\" href=\"/nyheter/lo-smeller-dora-igjen-for-eu-debatt/10163054\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"5b450740-32cc-414c-8985-1e20274d22fd\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-22T14:03:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">Ja-siden mener <a href=\"https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960\">Nato er\nsvekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –\nbåde <a href=\"https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/\">den\npolitiske</a> og <a href=\"https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506\">den\nmilitære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU\nav sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse\nkrever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er\net «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en\neffektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"ae58ae66-2ec2-403e-8931-045565ac31ea\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board2\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut\nav Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse\npå den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href=\"https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse\">EU\nvil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil\nsvekke forholdet til landet som <a href=\"https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/\">dekker\nen tredjedel av behovet deres for gass</a>?</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"8184c5ff-ad13-45ce-a1b9-e6c90a027eb8\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10170734\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10170734\" href=\"/debatt/bruk-kreftene-mot-hoyresiden/10170734\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T09:30:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"1e0e8d24-f950-4050-9233-61aac937744e\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10168728\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10168728\" href=\"/debatt/uforstaelig-at-eu-motstanden-er-sa-sterk/10168728\" 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-26T11:49:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n\n<!-- placeholder(#1) -->\n<div class=\"column articlescroller source_debatt-dagsavisen small-12 large-12 bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" data-element-guid=\"fe35c186-8010-4056-860d-4ea520912544\" id=\"article_list_10172484\" style=\"\">\n \n <div class=\"inner content fullwidthTarget\">\n \n <h2 class=\"articlescroller-header t32\" style=\"\">Mer debatt</h2>\n\n <ul class=\"scroll-container swipehelper snap-container-x snap-element-start articles count_4 \">\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/okt-boligskatt-svekker-den-norske-eierlinjen/10175381\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10175489.jpg?imageId=10175489&panox=0.00&panoy=21.43&panow=80.00&panoh=57.33&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Økt boligskatt svekker den norske eierlinjen</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/en-mer-praktisk-ungdomsskole-for-alle-elever/10173369\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10174846.jpg?imageId=10174846&panox=0.00&panoy=10.83&panow=100.00&panoh=71.67&heightx=18.79&heighty=0.00&heightw=41.43&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>En mer praktisk ungdomsskole for alle elever</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/hvor-mange-tragedier-skal-vi-tale/10174547\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10174667.jpg?imageId=10174667&panox=12.00&panoy=31.53&panow=88.00&panoh=62.93&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Hvor mange tragedier skal vi tåle?</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li 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EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein
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Author: Odd E. Rambøl
Published: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
Updated: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
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Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi massearbeidsledighet, og vi vil bli utenforlandet i Europa.
Etter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».
Vi må få en debatt om norsk EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste 50 prosent nei, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.
Og det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.
Men da han kom til Davos, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «Trump always Chickens Out». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.
Ja-siden mener Nato er svekket, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både den politiske og den militære – sier noe annet.
Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.
Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.
Så påstås det at EU vil neglisjere Norge, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass?
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"content" : "Dette er et debattinnlegg som gir uttrykk for skribentens holdninger og meninger. Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.\n\nSå er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja\\-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi [massearbeidsledighet](https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf), og vi vil bli [utenforlandet i Europa](https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html).\n\nEtter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».\n\nVi må få en debatt om norsk EU\\-medlemskap, sier ja\\-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste [50 prosent nei](https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886), 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.\n\nOg det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.\n\n[Men da han kom til Davos](https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026), slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO\\-versjon: «[Trump always Chickens Out](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out)». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.\n\nJa\\-siden mener [Nato er svekket](https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960), og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både [den politiske](https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/) og [den militære](https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506) – sier noe annet.\n\nDet å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.\n\nSelv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.\n\nSå påstås det at [EU vil neglisjere Norge](https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse), behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som [dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass](https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/)?\n\n## Mer debatt\n\n- [ En mer praktisk ungdomsskole for alle elever ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/en-mer-praktisk-ungdomsskole-for-alle-elever/10173369)\n- [ Hvor mange tragedier skal vi tåle? ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/hvor-mange-tragedier-skal-vi-tale/10174547)\n- [ Samfunn som tåler forskjeller, tåler kriser ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/samfunn-som-taler-forskjeller-taler-kriser/10173619)\n- [ EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/eu-er-et-dyr-med-fire-bakbein/10172481)\n- [ Dagsavisen publiserer mye bra – intervjuet med Stoltenberg var et unntak ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/dagsavisen-publiserer-mye-bra-intervjuet-med-stoltenberg-var-et-unntak/10173728)\n- [ Det ingen vil si høyt om SVs fall ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/det-ingen-vil-si-hoyt-om-svs-fall/10173219)\n- [ Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden! ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/bruk-kreftene-mot-hoyresiden/10170734)\n- [ Et demokrati som demoniserer demos, er ikke lenger et demokrati ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/et-demokrati-som-demoniserer-demos-er-ikke-lenger-et-demokrati/10169806)\n- [ Vi trudde at verda skulle bli betre ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/vi-trudde-at-verda-skulle-bli-betre/10171003)\n- [ Barna sviktes av systemet – kunnskapsministeren peker på foreldrene ](https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/barna-sviktes-av-systemet-kunnskapsministeren-peker-pa-foreldrene/10170381)",
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<h1 class="headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>
<h2 class="subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>
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<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og
1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href="https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og
vi vil bli <a href="https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html">utenforlandet
i Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,
kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class="column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 " data-element-guid="7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064" data-image-float="floatRight" data-instance="10163233" data-section="nyheter" data-site-alias="dagsavisen" itemscope>
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<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk
EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i
gang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886">50
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<p>Og det var etter at
Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026">Men
da han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –
men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out">Trump always
Chickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det
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<p class="font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold" data-lab-font_weight="font-weight-bold">Ja-siden mener <a href="https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960">Nato er
svekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –
både <a href="https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/">den
politiske</a> og <a href="https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506">den
militære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU
av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse
krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er
et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en
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<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut
av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse
på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href="https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse">EU
vil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil
svekke forholdet til landet som <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/">dekker
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Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.</span> </p><figure class=\"column desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight small-12 large-2 small-abs-12 large-abs-2\" data-element-guid=\"2dad9371-f480-4399-8a27-f011fe296d79\">\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"480\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"480\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"480\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Odd E. Rambøl.\" width=\"480\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">Odd E. Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Privat</figcaption>\n </div> </div>\n</figure>\n<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og\n1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href=\"https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf\">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og\nvi vil bli <a href=\"https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html\">utenforlandet\ni Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,\nkommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163233\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163233\" href=\"/nyheter/eu-derfor-snudde-ap-toppen-fra-nei-til-ja/10163233\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"30e350d2-859e-44f5-aad4-1f158f4306c1\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T06:00:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk\nEU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i\ngang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886\">50\nprosent nei</a>, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"edddc249-5ebd-4446-c181-aeebbcae3e09\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board1\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Og det var etter at\nTrump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026\">Men\nda han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –\nmen finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out\">Trump always\nChickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det\nmed TACO. </p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"b9508ad9-6623-4824-876f-bcb70b1783c4\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163054\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163054\" href=\"/nyheter/lo-smeller-dora-igjen-for-eu-debatt/10163054\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"5b450740-32cc-414c-8985-1e20274d22fd\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-22T14:03:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">Ja-siden mener <a href=\"https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960\">Nato er\nsvekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –\nbåde <a href=\"https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/\">den\npolitiske</a> og <a href=\"https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506\">den\nmilitære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU\nav sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse\nkrever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er\net «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en\neffektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"eb8ad3cf-1003-4a33-e411-876a3c680f40\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board2\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut\nav Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse\npå den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href=\"https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse\">EU\nvil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil\nsvekke forholdet til landet som <a href=\"https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/\">dekker\nen tredjedel av behovet deres for gass</a>?</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"8184c5ff-ad13-45ce-a1b9-e6c90a027eb8\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10170734\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10170734\" href=\"/debatt/bruk-kreftene-mot-hoyresiden/10170734\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T09:30:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"1e0e8d24-f950-4050-9233-61aac937744e\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10168728\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10168728\" href=\"/debatt/uforstaelig-at-eu-motstanden-er-sa-sterk/10168728\" 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-26T11:49:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n\n<!-- placeholder(#1) -->\n<div class=\"column articlescroller source_debatt-dagsavisen small-12 large-12 bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" data-element-guid=\"fe35c186-8010-4056-860d-4ea520912544\" id=\"article_list_10172484\" style=\"\">\n \n <div class=\"inner content fullwidthTarget\">\n \n <h2 class=\"articlescroller-header t32\" style=\"\">Mer debatt</h2>\n\n <ul class=\"scroll-container swipehelper snap-container-x snap-element-start articles count_4 \">\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/en-mer-praktisk-ungdomsskole-for-alle-elever/10173369\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10174846.jpg?imageId=10174846&panox=0.00&panoy=10.83&panow=100.00&panoh=71.67&heightx=18.79&heighty=0.00&heightw=41.43&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>En mer praktisk ungdomsskole for alle elever</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/hvor-mange-tragedier-skal-vi-tale/10174547\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10174667.jpg?imageId=10174667&panox=12.00&panoy=31.53&panow=88.00&panoh=62.93&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Hvor mange tragedier skal vi tåle?</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/samfunn-som-taler-forskjeller-taler-kriser/10173619\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10173630.jpg?imageId=10173630&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Samfunn som tåler forskjeller, tåler kriser</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n 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EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein
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Author: Odd E. Rambøl
Published: 2026-01-29 05:30:00
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Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.
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Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og 1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi massearbeidsledighet, og vi vil bli utenforlandet i Europa.
Etter at disse truslene slo feil, kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».
Vi må få en debatt om norsk EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i gang. Siste meningsmåling viste 50 prosent nei, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke.
Og det var etter at Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt.
Men da han kom til Davos, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter – men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «Trump always Chickens Out». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det med TACO.
Ja-siden mener Nato er svekket, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen – både den politiske og den militære – sier noe annet.
Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en effektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig.
Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon.
Så påstås det at EU vil neglisjere Norge, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil svekke forholdet til landet som dekker en tredjedel av behovet deres for gass?
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<h1 class="headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>
<h2 class="subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic" style="">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>
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<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og
1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href="https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og
vi vil bli <a href="https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html">utenforlandet
i Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,
kommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class="column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 " data-element-guid="7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064" data-image-float="floatRight" data-instance="10163233" data-section="nyheter" data-site-alias="dagsavisen" itemscope>
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<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk
EU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i
gang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886">50
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<p>Og det var etter at
Trump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href="https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026">Men
da han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –
men finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out">Trump always
Chickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det
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<p class="font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold" data-lab-font_weight="font-weight-bold">Ja-siden mener <a href="https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960">Nato er
svekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –
både <a href="https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/">den
politiske</a> og <a href="https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506">den
militære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU
av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse
krever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er
et «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en
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<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut
av Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse
på den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href="https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse">EU
vil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil
svekke forholdet til landet som <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/">dekker
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Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Vegard Grøtt / NTB</figcaption>\n </div>\n\n\n\n <p class=\"kicker t28 tertiary color_mobile_tertiary\" style=\"\">Debatt</p>\n <h1 class=\"headline mainTitle t60 align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h1>\n <h2 class=\"subtitle align-center mobile_text_align_align-center italic m-italic\" style=\"\">Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.</h2>\n\n\n\n <div class=\"meta\" data-element-guid=\"941b5753-9ca6-458f-a730-d206132e0e00\">\n \n\n <div class=\"bylines\">\n <div class=\"byline column\" data-element-guid=\"ce43fcb6-7f8b-4883-b22c-2bdd1363e4fb\" itemscope itemtype=\"http://schema.org/Person\">\n \n <div class=\"content\">\n \n <address class=\"name\">\n\n <span class=\"lab-hidden-byline-name\" itemprop=\"name\">Odd E. 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Du kan sende inn debattinnlegg til debatt@dagsavisen.no.</span> </p><figure class=\"column desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight small-12 large-2 small-abs-12 large-abs-2\" data-element-guid=\"2dad9371-f480-4399-8a27-f011fe296d79\">\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" style=\"\">\n\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"146\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=292&height=292&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"146\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"480\"> \n <source height=\"480\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"480\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"480\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/9857346.webp?imageId=9857346&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&width=960&height=960&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Odd E. Rambøl.\" width=\"480\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n <div class=\"caption \" data-showmore=\"Vis mer\">\n <figcaption class=\"\" itemprop=\"caption\">Odd E. Rambøl.</figcaption>\n <figcaption class=\"\" data-byline-prefix=\"\" itemprop=\"author\">Privat</figcaption>\n </div> </div>\n</figure>\n<p>Så er det på’n igjen. I 1972 og\n1994 var ja-sidens mantra: Vi må bli medlem av EU, ellers får vi <a href=\"https://www.fafo.no/images/pub/2004/455.pdf\">massearbeidsledighet</a>, og\nvi vil bli <a href=\"https://www.norgeshistorie.no/oljealder-og-overflod/1945-norges-nei-til-ef-i-1972.html\">utenforlandet\ni Europa</a>. </p><p>Etter at disse truslene slo feil,\nkommer nå Trump og Putin som reddende «engler».</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"7f446089-b2b3-4d2a-bab9-c3ca2797b064\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163233\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163233\" href=\"/nyheter/eu-derfor-snudde-ap-toppen-fra-nei-til-ja/10163233\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"30e350d2-859e-44f5-aad4-1f158f4306c1\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170162.webp?imageId=10170162&x=6.44&y=24.72&cropw=76.00&croph=65.00&heightx=6.44&heighty=24.72&heightw=76.00&heighth=65.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">EU: Derfor snudde Ap-toppen fra nei til ja\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T06:00:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p>Vi må få en debatt om norsk\nEU-medlemskap, sier ja-folkene. Men det er da ytringsfrihet i Norge, så bare sett i\ngang. Siste meningsmåling viste <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/utenriksministeren-apnet-for-eu-diskusjon-folket-sier-fortsatt-nei/10158886\">50\nprosent nei</a>, 35 prosent ja – og 15 prosent vet ikke. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"600452cb-f3e4-46b6-8dae-8b6acf8a10e2\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board1\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Og det var etter at\nTrump hadde truet med å ta Grønland med militær makt. </p><p><a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/nyheter/trump-vil-ha-gronland-uten-a-bruke-makt/10162026\">Men\nda han kom til Davos</a>, slo TACO til – ikke i form av mexicanske godbiter –\nmen finansverdenens spesielle TACO-versjon: «<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out\">Trump always\nChickens Out</a>». Møter han motstand – fra andre land eller børsen, ender det\nmed TACO. </p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter paywall small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"b9508ad9-6623-4824-876f-bcb70b1783c4\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10163054\" data-section=\"nyheter\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10163054\" href=\"/nyheter/lo-smeller-dora-igjen-for-eu-debatt/10163054\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\">\n \n\n <figure class=\"desktop-floatRight mobile-floatRight\" data-element-guid=\"5b450740-32cc-414c-8985-1e20274d22fd\" style=\"width:184px;\">\n <div class=\"img fullwidthTarget\">\n <picture>\n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"102\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=368&height=204&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"184\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/5365384.webp?imageId=5365384&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">LO smeller døra igjen for EU-debatt\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-22T14:03:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<p class=\"font-weight-bold m-font-weight-bold\" data-lab-font_weight=\"font-weight-bold\">Ja-siden mener <a href=\"https://www.tb.no/norge-trenger-eu-medlemskap-na/o/5-76-2772960\">Nato er\nsvekket</a>, og at Norges sikkerhet er truet. Den norske forsvarsledelsen –\nbåde <a href=\"https://www.regjeringen.no/no/aktuelt/statsradens-tale-i-oslo-militare-samfund-26.-januar/id3147386/\">den\npolitiske</a> og <a href=\"https://www.forsvaretsforum.no/arktis-danmark-eirik-kristoffersen/mener-trump-utspill-distraherer-undergraver-alliansen/479506\">den\nmilitære</a> – sier noe annet. </p><p>Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU\nav sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige. En forsvarsallianse\nkrever klare kommandolinjer, enighet og evne til å ta raske beslutninger. EU er\net «dyr» med fire bakbein. Å tro at EU skal kunne tilfredsstille kravene til en\neffektiv forsvarsallianse er lite troverdig. </p><div class=\"column google-ad display-label widthFull\" data-element-guid=\"6c818301-6706-466b-ec5c-a7b90e3cc6c9\" style=\"\">\n\n <span class=\"ad-label\">Annonse</span>\n <div class=\"adunit\" id=\"articleboard/board2\"></div>\n \n</div>\n<p>Selv om USA skulle trekke seg ut\nav Nato, noe som er lite sannsynlig, vil det være langt mer effektivt å satse\npå den europeiske delen av Nato som en forsvarsorganisasjon. </p><p>Så påstås det at <a href=\"https://www.altinget.no/artikkel/eu-er-i-bevegelse-norge-er-uten-innflytelse\">EU\nvil neglisjere Norge</a>, behandle oss «stygt». Er det virkelig noen som tror at EU vil\nsvekke forholdet til landet som <a href=\"https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/where-does-the-eu-s-gas-come-from/\">dekker\nen tredjedel av behovet deres for gass</a>?</p><article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"8184c5ff-ad13-45ce-a1b9-e6c90a027eb8\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10170734\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10170734\" href=\"/debatt/bruk-kreftene-mot-hoyresiden/10170734\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"\">\n\n\n <div class=\"media desktop-floatRight 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170767.webp?imageId=10170767&x=0.00&y=0.00&cropw=100.00&croph=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Bruk kreftene mot høyresiden!\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-28T09:30:00+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n<article class=\"column desktop-floatCenter mobile-floatCenter small-12 large-8 small-abs-12 large-abs-8 \" data-element-guid=\"1e0e8d24-f950-4050-9233-61aac937744e\" data-image-float=\"floatRight\" data-instance=\"10168728\" data-section=\"debatt\" data-site-alias=\"dagsavisen\" itemscope>\n \n <div class=\"content bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary op-bg_60 color_mobile_op-bg_60 border-bg-secondary mobile_border-bg-secondary vertical-text-align-center mobile-vertical-text-align-center hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding hasBorder mobile-hasBorder\" style=\"\">\n \n <a class=\"\" data-k5a-url=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/a/10168728\" href=\"/debatt/uforstaelig-at-eu-motstanden-er-sa-sterk/10168728\" 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srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=webp\" type=\"image/webp\" width=\"125\"> \n <source height=\"94\" media=\"(max-width: 767px)\" srcset=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" type=\"image/jpeg\" width=\"125\"> \n <img alt=\"\" height=\"94\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10168737.webp?imageId=10168737&x=16.00&y=13.13&cropw=84.00&croph=60.28&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=250&height=188&format=jpg\" style=\"\" title=\"Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\" width=\"125\">\n </picture> \n </div>\n \n</figure>\n\n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n \n <div class=\"floatingText\">\n\n <div class=\"labels\">\n </div>\n </div>\n \n\n </div>\n\n <div class=\"vertically-aligned-text\">\n\n \n <h2 class=\"headline t19 tm14\" itemprop=\"headline\" style=\"\">Uforståelig at EU-motstanden er så sterk\n</h2>\n\n \n\n </div>\n\n\n\n </a>\n\n <time datetime=\"2026-01-26T11:49:52+01:00\" itemprop=\"datePublished\"></time>\n </div>\n</article>\n\n<!-- placeholder(#1) -->\n<div class=\"column articlescroller source_debatt-dagsavisen small-12 large-12 bg-tertiary color_mobile_bg-tertiary hasContentPadding mobile-hasContentPadding\" data-element-guid=\"fe35c186-8010-4056-860d-4ea520912544\" id=\"article_list_10172484\" style=\"\">\n \n <div class=\"inner content fullwidthTarget\">\n \n <h2 class=\"articlescroller-header t32\" style=\"\">Mer debatt</h2>\n\n <ul class=\"scroll-container swipehelper snap-container-x snap-element-start articles count_4 \">\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/samfunn-som-taler-forskjeller-taler-kriser/10173619\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10173630.jpg?imageId=10173630&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Samfunn som tåler forskjeller, tåler kriser</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/eu-er-et-dyr-med-fire-bakbein/10172481\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10172614.jpg?imageId=10172614&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/dagsavisen-publiserer-mye-bra-intervjuet-med-stoltenberg-var-et-unntak/10173728\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10173741.jpg?imageId=10173741&panox=0.00&panoy=0.28&panow=100.00&panoh=71.67&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Dagsavisen publiserer mye bra – intervjuet med Stoltenberg var et unntak</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a 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av systemet – kunnskapsministeren peker på foreldrene</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/nar-verden-tier-reiser-kurdere-seg/10170574\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https://image.dagsavisen.no/10170639.jpg?imageId=10170639&panox=0.00&panoy=0.00&panow=100.00&panoh=100.00&heightx=0.00&heighty=0.00&heightw=100.00&heighth=100.00&width=1058&height=478&format=webp&width=530&height=238\" width=\"265\">\n </figure>\n <div class=\"text-container\">\n \n \n <h3>Når verden tier, reiser kurdere seg</h3>\n \n \n \n </div>\n </a>\n </li>\n <li class=\"scroll-item snap-element column hasImage skipLeadText\" data-section=\"debatt\">\n <a href=\"https://www.dagsavisen.no/debatt/forstar-stortinget-hvor-vanskelig-det-er-for-voksne-a-laere-norsk/10168991\">\n <figure>\n <img alt=\"\" height=\"119\" loading=\"lazy\" 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"summary" : "Det å skulle melde Norge inn i EU av sikkerhetspolitiske grunner, grenser til det latterlige.",
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"title" : "EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein",
"twitter_title" : "EU er et «dyr» med fire bakbein",
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